tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN June 25, 2017 9:00am-10:01am PDT
included with xfinity tv. xfinity the future of awesome. high stakes health care. senate republicans reveal their once-secret plan to overhaul obamacare. >> a phenomenal bill for the people of our country. generous, kind, with heart. >> but members of his own party say they won't back it. >> this current draft doesn't get the job done. >> will senate republicans really pass it this week? >> i think that they'll probably get there. we'll have to see. >> the very latest on the vote count. plus, putin's plan. new details about what president obama knew about russian meddling in the election and new questions about whether he did
enough to stop it. >> if he had the information, why didn't he do something about it? he should have done something about it. >> a top democrat investigating the russians will be here live. and, democrats in disarray. >> all we do is win, win, win. >> with some turning on leader nancy pelosi after another congressional loss. >> i think i'm worth the trouble, quite frankly. >> do democrats need to revamp? the best political minds will be here with insights on what happens next. hello, i'm dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is -- mean? that's the word that democrats have seized on when president trump reportedly used it himself in a closed door session. this morning, he owned it. >> mean, that was my term because i want to see -- and i speak from the heart. that's what i want to see.
i want to see a bill with heart. health care is a very complicated subject from the standpoint that you move it this way and this group doesn't like it. you move it a little bit over here. you have a very narrow path. and, honestly, nobody can be totally happy even without the votes. forget about votes. this has nothing to do with votes. this has to do with picking a plan that everybody is going to like. i would like to say love but like. but we have a very good plan. we have a few people that are -- i think you could say modestly. they're not standing on the rooftops and screaming. they want to get some points. i think they'll get some points. >> the president can only afford to lose two republican senators for the obama repeal -- obamacare repeal bill to pass and so far five gop senators have come out against the bill. four think it doesn't go far enough to repeal obamacare, while one says too many
americans will lose their coverage under the plan. still it's negotiable and president trump says he's cautiously optimistic. >> i don't think they're that far off. i don't think they're that far off. famous last words but i think we're going to get there. >> i'm joined by dr. tom price, secretary of health and human services, who joins us this morning from aspen, colorado. mr. secretary, thank you for joining me. >> thanks, dana. good to be with you this morning. >> thank you. one of the most scathing criticisms of the new senate republican bill to repeal obamacare didn't come from democrats. it came from republican senator dean heller of nevada. listen to what he said. >> the biggest lie in health care in the last ten years was, if you like your doctor, you can keep him. second biggest lie is that your premium will go down. there isn't anything in this legislation that will lower your premiums. >> that is a republican senator saying you and your fellow republicans, who are pushing this bill, are lying to voters when you claim that premiums are going to go down under your plan. what's your response?
>> yeah. well, i don't know that that's what he's saying. i think there's a misunderstanding about what the entire plan is and the fact of the matter is that the bill is part of the plan and the kinds of things we're doing through the department of health and human services, add on to that, so that our goal is to decrease premiums, to make it so that health coverage is actually affordable again. right now, we've got premiums going through the roof, deductibles are sky rocketing. folks with health coverage card but no care because they can't afford the deductible. the status quo is unsustainable, completely. we've got to act. action is absolutely vital. we look forward to continuing to work with senator heller. i've had wonderful conversations with him. we've had conversations with the governor of nevada and look forward to working through this so that we have a health care system that works for the american people. >> secretary price, you said you have goals and aspirations. but he is saying, point-blank, that the bill that is before the senate does not bring premiums down. in fact, it will do the opposite.
can you promise that at the end of the day what the president will sign will bring premiums down for the majority of americans? >> yeah. the plan in its entirety will absolutely bring premiums down. you increase competition, you increase choices for individuals, you allow folks to be able to purchase the kind of coverage that they want, not that the government forces them to buy. those are all the secret keys to a market that actually works for health care and works for patients. that's the key. we've got a health care system that may work for government, may work for insurance companies in certain instances. that's ending as well. it certainly doesn't work for patients and that's the key we're trying to get to, a health care system that works for patients all across this land. >> nevada's republican governor, brian sandoval, is worried that people who make as little as $16,000 per year will lose their medicaid coverage and not be eligible and be able to afford private insurance. take a listen. >> these are our friends, our
families, these are our neighbors. they're living healthier and happier lives because of that decision. i don't think that can be overstated enough. >> this is a republican governor who is concerned that your plan would erode the lives of the most vulnerable. what's your response? >> it just wouldn't happen. we are continuing to work with the governor to make certain that they understand and appreciate the plan in its entirety, the kind of waivers and options that we're offering states, the kind of extra resources that are going to be available for states to cover the most vulnerable. look, i'm a physician. i took care of patients for over 20 years. the health care system that i'm supporting and will continue to support is one that actually responds to patients' needs. not just in nevada, but in pennsylvania, in florida, in washington state, maine and new mexico, all across this country. we've got a health care system, again, that's working for government right now but it's not working for patients. there's a better way to do this. >> but secretary price, let's
just stay specifically on this question about medicaid. because he's not the only republican -- both of them in nevada are not the only republicans that are concerned about medicaid cuts. just looking at the house bill, the cbo said it reduces medicaid by $834 billion. >> yeah. that's interesting because -- >> is that not a deep cut? >> well, it all depends what you are comparing it top. the fact of the matter is the medicaid propose alg in the senate bill goes up every single year that the plan is in place because it is based on the consumer price index, initial ly based on the consumer price index related to medical care across the country and goes up every single year. it's important that the people appreciate that what our goal is is to make it so folks on medicaid, the most vulnerable in our society, those moms and kids and seniors and disabled, that program works for them in a way that gives allows them to get the kind of care and coverage that they need. in addition to those who are also in the vulnerable category,
that they are able to get the kind of coverage that they want and need for their families. >> just to underline this, your position is that republican governor sandoval in nevada is wrong when he says that his constituents, those who are the neediest, are going to lose coverage? he's not right about that? >> well, dana, i know that's what the divisionist news wants to do. >> no, i'm asking. i'm just asking for the facts. is he wrong? >> and what i'm telling you is that the system, the plan that we have, that we would put in place would not allow individuals to fall through the cracks, we would not pull the rug out from under anybody. we would not have individuals lose coverage that they want for themselves and for their family. we want to make certain that health care is available to all americans. right now we've got 28 million americans who are uninsured, who don't have insurance in the current plan. is that a plan that works for patients? absolutely not. that's the kind of thing we're trying to fix. >> i want to look at a different part of the plan before the senate and certainly what we saw
in the house, as well. and that is that two slash taxes on the wealthiest americans. looking at the bill that came out of the house, billionaire investor warren buffett said your plan would reduce his tax bill by $680,000 and he has a question for public officials that i wanted to pose to you. let's listen. >> i think it would be very interesting for the constituency of every congressman that voted for that bill to ask just one question. are you above 250$,0,000 in you adjusted gross income? if you were, how much would you save from what you paid last year from this bill you just passed? >> so what's your answer? how much would you save under the house and senate bills? >> remember that obamacare taxes were put in place to build a whole new government program, government-run health care. when you back out of that and make it so you have a patient-centered system where patients, families and doctors are running health care, not the
federal government, then that of necessity allows you to do so without as much money. we believe it's absolutely vital we decrease taxes for the american people, allow them to keep more of their hard-earned money. i did you appreciate -- i don't know if your listeners do. there's 6.5 million americans right now who are paying $3 billion in penalties, in taxes, just for the privilege of not purchasing health coverage. can you imagine that? that's a system that isn't working for those 6.5 million. how about lowering the taxes for those 6.5 million? >> and i understand that. but the question now is when it comes to the bill that is before the united states senate, the fact of the matter is, people like you are going to get a tax cut. >> the fact of the matter is that those 6.5 million will no longer have to pay $3 billion in a penalty or tax to the federal government because they're not interested in purchasing what the government wants to force them to buy. look, this is a system right now that's run by the government, for the government, dictated by the government, and it's not
responding to patients' needs. that's what we want to get to. 28 million individuals right now uninsured, 6.5 million folks spending $3 billion in tax penalty? premiums up, deductibles up. coverage going away. we haven't even begun to talk about the states where there will be counties that will have no insurance issuer next year. that system doesn't work for patients. that's what we're trying to fix. >> i'm not sure warren buffett will be satisfied that he got an answer to his. >> he i'm not sure that warren >> imnot sure warren buffett is interested in insuring patients in those counties. that's the key. we need to look at every single american citizen and every single individual across this land that they get the coverage they want for themselves and their family not that the government forces them to buy. >> we'll see what happens in the senate and this very important bill that's before them. thanks for your time, mr. secretary. >> thanks, dana. coming up -- inside job. the president's super pac attacking a fellow republican,
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welcome back. ohio's montgomery county claims an unhappy title as the deadly heart of the opioid crisis. with more overdoses per capita than anywhere in the country. and the sheriff's office says deaths could quadruple this year. the buckeye state's republican senator rob portman says he's concerned that the bill doesn't do enough to help opioid addicts, getting help under obamacare. this makes him a critical vote in the senate, and the state's republican governor, john kasich, who joins those concerns, joins me live from columbus, ohio. thank you for joining me. i'll start right off the bat. is this a good bill for the people of ohio? >> well, there's a few aspects of it that have improved. for example, the phase out of
medicare expansion over six or seven years is an improvement. but the total number of dollars that are going to be dedicated to medicaid are not enough. it's not enough resources there. and i've been very concerned here in my state about treating the mentally ill, the drug addicted, the chronically ill, particularly under medicaid expansion. if you look at the entire medicaid pie, there are huge challenges to it. the resources are just not there. i think we'll find over a ten-year period, medicaid funding will be significantly curtailed and not accompanied at this point with the kind of flexibility that we need, particularly as it relates to the pharmaceutical companies where we need greater flexibility. we will be looking at not just affecting those who are drug addicted, but children, seniors, the disabled. on the other side, the exchange side, where i just heard the secretary talking, he said there are counties that won't be served by insurance companies.
the problem with the bill in the senate is that it eliminates the subsidies to the insurance companies after two years, which creates more instability and more confusion. nobody is saying -- nobody, not my colleagues on the democratic side -- no one is saying that this doesn't need to be fixed. of course it needs to be fixed. but cannot do it in a way where you deprive people of the resources they need to have a stable program. >> so, given that -- >> and then on the exchange side, dana, if you don't have enough resources in there, then the kind of health insurance that people can buy is completely inadequate. it's not enough money. nobody would want to live under that. >> given the problems you just laid out, do you think that senator portman of ohio should vote no? >> well, i don't think the bill's adequate now. unless it gets fixed, i would -- look, i'm against it. i'm not against it just because i want to be against it. there's some things in these bills, in these provisions that
are an improvement. my job, as i see my job as a governor of a state, not necessarily as a republican governor, but the governor of this state, my job is to look, not just today, but in the out years at the impact it is going to have on people who have -- who need help. dana, i was in a restaurant on friday. and i was at a wendy's actually. there was a partition. i looked over at the people that had gathered there and there were about -- i don't know, 25 kids. all of them were here in columbus for special olympics. and i looked at them and thought, are these people being served? are they going to be served by this bill in the future? my conclusion right now is no. can we improve this bill? i think they could improve it. i hope they do. >> if there is no improvement, just to be clear, you are encouraging your senator and perhaps others -- i mean you are asking -- you're encouraging
republicans to vote against this unless it's improved? >> no. what i'm encouraging them to do is to fix it. now look, i just wrote a letter with a bunch of democrat governor, and republican governors. okay? and what we're saying is, let's work together on this. let's not rush something through. let's have transparency. let's have some cooperation between the parties. because if you don't, this bill's not sustainable. i'm not just saying, kill the bill. let's get something that will work, that's going to create a stabilizing -- all these issues around insurance and coverage db and then get to the heart of the matter, which is the rising costs of health care, frankly, which this bill doesn't begin to even do. >> governor, the trump/pence super pac announced it will run ads against senator dean heller, who is one of the most vulnerable republicans up for re-election next year because he spoke out against the bill, not unlike you are right now. let's listen to that ad.
>> senator heller has made his open opposition clear. that is unacceptable to us and to millions of americans suffering under obamacare. heller is now standing with pelosi. unacceptable. if you're opposed to this bill, we are opposed to you. >> is it smart for a republican group to target a fellow republican like that? >> dana, this is the 21st century! this is the craziest time i've ever seen in politics and maybe this is a signal. that instead of people just confessing their loyalty to one party or the other, maybe they ought to be confessing their loyalty to the country. and, look, i've been attacked all of my career. and the fact is that you've got to stand up on your own two feet, explain how you feel about things and be a leader. i don't think we have enough leadership. i think too many people cower in the wings because of partisanship. not just republicans, democrats as well.
if you try to get a great number of governors, republican or democrat, to speak out on this, where are they? all you hear are crickets and chirping. because they're worried about upsetting their base. >> or getting ads run against them like that. >> pardon? >> or having -- >> well, so what? if you can't take a fastball on the inside, get out of politics. if you can't take a pitch thrown at you and you can't get out of the batter's box, quit. don't whine. i don't think senator heller is whining. i also want to say not only heller, but sandoval. brian sandoval is a great governor. his popularity is sky-high in nevada. and you know what he's saying? i'm worried about poor people. you know what? both parties -- both parties -- ought to be worried about poor people because i don't think either party particularly cares about helping poor people. you look at the rates of poverty. you look at the problems in this country. we have not designed a system to get people work. everything we're talking about now, getting people healthy,
giving them health care is designed to get them to work. it's designed to give them an opportunity to have a better life. this is not some kind of wealth fare system. look, if you're sick and hungry, you don't work. if you're healthy and fed, you can get a job. we expect people to have one then. >> governor, before we go i have to ask you did run for president against now president trump. you're proud of the fact you never endorsed him. he took a victory thlap this we after winning a fourth special election contest, at least republicans did. take a listen to what he said. >> they have phony witch hunts going against me. they have everything going. you know what? all we do is win, win, win. we won last night. >> does he have a point that never-trumpers -- and you probably are still one of them -- can't beat him? >> well, first of all, i'm not a never-trumper. i'm for the president of the united states. it's just when he's right, i'm going to praise him, like when
he said he wasn't going to kick the dreamers out of country. but i'm also going to criticize him when he does stuff that i don't agree with, including the health care bill which he then called mean, which i give him credit for. in the end of it all, 2018 is going to be the race about do the democrats have a message, and they seem not to have one, and can the republicans hold on. i don't know where they is going to go. the races held so far have been held predominantly in republican districts. they've won. good for republicans. at the end of the day, though, '18 is a long way away and we'll have to wait to see what happens. it will be interesting. you guys are going to get great ratings because of all the coverage you're going to give to these races. it's going to be exciting. >> it's going to be exciting but more importantly, it will be consequential for americans. thank you very much, governor. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> new revelations about what president obama knew and when he knew it. could he have spoken out more strongly about russian meddling in the election? that's next. you don't know this yet but in fifteen hundred miles,
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obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he did nothing about it. but nobody wants to talk about that. he had the information, why didn't he do something about it? he should have done something about it. >> that was president trump, reacting to an explosive story in the "washington post" this week revealing that president obama knew months before the 2016 election that putin was trying to influence the results. but obama took action against russia only after trump won. president trump has not yet taken any measures to punish russia for their actions and it's unclear what exactly is being done to stop russia from meddling in the next election. a lot of new questions for the man investigating this issue, ranking member of the house intelligence committee, democrat adam schiff, who is here with me now. thank you so much for being here.
appreciate it. congressman, i'll just start off, the democrats you have been investigating, but a lot of democrats have been usie ining a as a political tool to go after president trump. president obama knew as far back as august of 2016 that vladimir putin was working to elect president trump. did obama fail in his duty to this nation? >> i think the obama administration should have done a lot more when it became clear that not only was russia intervening, but it was being directed at the highest levels of the kremlin. indeed, senator feinstein and i were repeatedly trying to make that case to the administration. initially when they didn't want to make attribution, they didn't want to publicly talk about russia's role. and later after we issued our own statement and they did attribute the conduct to russia, i was urging that they begin then the process of sanctioning russia, the administration talking more forcefully about what the russians had done. i think that was a mistake, but
i have to contest what president trump has already saying, because for donald trump, who openly egged on the russians to hack hillary clinton's e-mails, and celebrated every release of these stolen documents to criticize obama, now is a bit like someone knowingly receiving stolen property blaming the police for not stopping the theft. donald trump is in no position to complain here. >> that may be true. let's focus on president obama for a minute. you say it was a mistake. how much were politics at play meaning fear that people would say that he's getting too involved in a way that would help hillary clinton, and should that have been a factor at all given the gravity of what you were seeing in the intelligence? >> it was a factor. and it should not have been the most weighty factor. i think they were being concerned as being perceived interfering in the election
trying to tip the scales for hillary clinton. they were also concerned about not wanting to play into the narrative that donald trump was telling, that the election was going to be rigged. even though donald trump was talking about a completely different kind of rigging, that foreign intervention. both of those factors did not outweigh, in my view -- and i argued this at the time -- did not outweigh the public's need to know. the american people needed to know, and i didn't think it was enough to tell them after the election. but rather given the seriousness of this, i think the administration needed to call out russia earlier, needed to act to deter and punish russia earlier and that was a very serious mistake. >> you mentioned what you argued at time behind closed doors. september 2016, according to "the washington post" is when you and other lawmakers were briefed on the hill about this. what -- now that it's passed and is in public, what happened in that meeting? how aggressively did you and other democrats argue and what was the pushback? >> well, i can't talk about some of the closed meetings, but i can tell that you senator
feinstein and i were concerned enough about what we were learning to do something i had never done before and never done since, to issue a public statement of our own, attributing a foreign hack to a foreign party, based on our intelligence. we had to vet that with the intelligence community. we took that step because we weren't succeeding in getting the administration to do it self-. but a statement coming from lawmakers doesn't have the power to influence the american people as a statement coming from the president of the united states. and i think that is what the situation really called for. >> if you were president, what would you have done? what should president obama have done? i think what he should have done, and what i urged at the time, he should have spoken out to the american people and said, this is what russia is doing. russia had better stop it, and more than that, we are going to enter into conversations right now with our european allies who have similarly been the victim of russian hacking and interference in their elections to embark on a new round of sanctions. i think those sanctions should have been not only imposed earlier but far stronger than
sanctions the obama administration would ultimately impose after the election. >> i want to turn to something that the obama homeland security secretary jeh johnson said before you committee this week. he said that in the wake of the hack at the dnc, the dnc didn't want the assistance of the department of homeland security. and after he said this, the president, current president, trump, tweeted this -- why did the dnc refuse to turn over its server to the fbi and still hasn't? it's all a big dem scam and excuse for losing the election. what is the reason why the dnc didn't ask or even allow help from the homeland security department? >> this is an issue that we're looking into, what was the democratic party response, what was the department of homeland security response and the fbi. the only thing i can say that's public thus far is james comey was asked about this during his open testimony recently. what he testified is that the
dnc gave the fbi the forensic report done by a very reputable cyber security firm and that's all they needed in terms of their only analysis. >> do you think they did enough? >> i don't know. but that is the public testimony we have thus far. we are going to want to talk to people from the dnc, from the fbi more about this. find out, was there a quest for the server? if there was, did the party have a concern about giving up its server in the middle of a presidential campaign and what can we learn from this so that in the next presidential election again the russians hack in the dnc or rnc, how can we make sure that information gets to the top of the party, which apparently didn't at the time, so that action can be taken promptly. >> you mentioned james comey, former fbi director. he also testified that the obama attorney general, loretta lynch, improperly injected politics into the investigation of hillary clinton's e-mails. listen to what he told the senate intelligence committee. >> attorney general had directed me not to call it an
investigation but instead to call it a matter. which confused me and concerned me. but that was one of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude, i have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly. >> senator, dianne feinstein was on this program recently and she said that gave her a queasy feeling. the senate judiciary is investigating this. do you think loretta lynch should come to capitol hill and testify about there? >> you know, i think senator feinstein's comment, i would agree with. it does give me a queasy feeling as well. there may be a perfectly accurate explanation by loretta lynch about why she thought "matter" was the appropriate term rather than "investigation." i wouldn't assume james comey's characterization is the last word on it, although i'm sure it's accurate. i would like to hear what loretta lynch's explanation for that is, either by having her come to the hill or speak publicly about what was -- >> would you have her come to the house intelligence committee? >> i don't know that this is really part of the russia
investigation. this was more part of the clinton e-mail investigation, so i'm not sure it's within our purview. but i would like to hear what they are explanation for that was. but i certainly wouldn't want that to distract us from what we need to do to get to the bottom of the russia allegations. >> thank you so much for your time, congressman adam schiff. appreciate it. >> thank you. despite president trump's record unpopularity, republicans keep winning elections. can the democrats find a strategy that actually works before 2018? top members of congress will be here to share their plan. stay with us. ♪ you supported him through four years of undergrad... and medical school. it's no wonder he said, "you don't have to pick me up." at lincoln financial, we get there are some responsibilities of love you gotta do on your own. and some you shouldn't have to shoulder alone. like being able to maintain your lifestyle,
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that might all be prescripted. >> democratic senator chris murphy saying his four conservative colleagues who oppose the current draft will likely come around. but its passage is still not assured. so which side has the votes? with me now former republican presidential candidate and senator rick santorum, indiana congressman andre carson, and ruben gallego. and amanda carver, former communications for truz. i will start with you. i covered you in many a legislative battle. what do you think? is chris murphy right? >> i hope he's right. there isn't really any reason for those four conservative republicans not to figure out a way to get to yes. there's certainly enough in this bill, the changes in medicare, getting rid of taxes. the block grant on medicaid is the same huge change that we saw in 1996 with the block grant of welfare. by the way, the block grant of
welfare has worked tremendously well. it's core republican doctrine. yeah, did we get everything we wanted? no. but there are certainly enough reforms and tax reductions in there, there is enough transferring control of the health care system out of washington for conservatives to vote. >> will mcconnell get the votes? >> i don't think he would have brought this forward if he didn't think he could get the votes. i would -- look, they're going to lose heller. they'll probably lose another moderate that they feel they have to lose just for their own election purposes. but i think they'll hold 50. >> that seems to be the way this is heading, amanda. you did work for senator cruz. i'll ask you to take us inside his brain right now and where he might be. they are headed, it looks like, toward trying to get the conservatives on board. it looks like the moderates in the caucus are probably not gettable. the question is whether or not they can avoid losing three. on ted cruz, are the signs on board for him? >> i think he gets there. i think everyone has a sticker price problem when it comes to
obamacare. listen, let's say this passes. president trump signs it in the oval office. all these rates are going to increase in october. there's not enough time for this legislation to take effect to lower premiums and deductibles unless they get a really clear win out of this to provide relief for people on the individual market who have been hammered with these really, really high increases. if ted cruz can get something like that out of it so he can go home to constituents and say because of this your premiums are going down? sure, he can get there. but right now that does not exist in this repeal bill which is not a repeal because it does keep all the medicaid expansions and all the subsidies. >> congressman, she has a point. i know you all say you want to fix obamacare and not repeal it, but when you look at the senate bill -- >> it's not leaner. it's meaner. millions of americans will lose coverage. deductibles will go up. co-pays will go up. if my republican buddies were smart they would take this off the table and do the work that needs to be done and invest in
the economy, talk about education, talk about infrastructure, things the american people are concerned about. . they're putting their caucus in jeopardy for 2018. >> and the president actually used the word "mean" on camera today. did he hand you a political gift? >> absolutely. i worked on medicaid expansion in the state legislature in arizona and that helped us get many people off the streets and into treatment programs that are really important, especially if you believe in opioid treatment. number two, a lot of people depend on medicaid expansion for nursing care, a population that also votes and their family members vote. this type of cap that will happen over time, they will stop medicaid expansion over time, then also cut the amount that it contributed to and sticking only to the consumer price index will end up kicking off thousands and thousands of people every year off medicaid. that is going to be mean-spirited, by any definition. >> i want to go back to what amanda said, her point just on the raw politics of this.
let's just say this passes the senate. there is a compromise with the house and the president actually signs a form of this bill. is there a political danger that in the short term, people are not going to see a difference? in fact, it could get worse and republicans are going to now -- >> they do have the stabilization fund. you see all the insurance companies come forward and say our rates are going up much higher because we don't know whether this money is going to be there or not. the senate bill does provide this money. there will be a short-term help in premiums. now it comes from the federal government giving the insurance companies more money, not a structural reform. a lot of things are left off the table that conservatives would like to see, i think the american public would like to see to actually do something to reduce rates. but we can't get that passed in this bill. in the short term there will be help here. i think it will be enough for political cover purpose. >> let's talk about the democratic party and what happened this week. the fourth special election congressional loss.
but, obviously, it's not just that. it's that republicans have had control of the house and senate for several years. republicans now have control of the white house. i want you to listen to what congressman tim ryan told don lemon earlier this week. >> you think nancy pelosi is more toxic than donald trump? >> you know what? the honest answer is in some areas of the country, yes, she is. that's the honest answer. >> tim ryan is my good friend, real friend not a political friend. he's a fellow midwesterner. listen, nancy pelosi is a phenomenal leader. has everything been perfect? no. she's created vice chair positions for hakim jeffries and others. she's formidable, raising over half a million dollars for the party since she's been in leadership. she's been more inclusive. who would have thought she would have listened to me and put a muslim on the intelligence committee? she's visionary. i don't want to see pelosi leave and we bring in a more refined, more polished and younger good
old boys club. >> well, that may be. but the other reality is that, fair or not, she continues to be -- even in a brand new ad run in nevada now against republican dean heller, this is republicans running this against him. nancy pelosi, they're accusing him of standing with nancy pelosi. do you think that as congressman carson said, that this is beyond nancy pelosi, or do you think it should start with her and then you can worry about the rest of the issues with the party? >> the most important thing, and especially some of us involved in having these discussions, we're first looking out for our constituents. this is not about nancy but us have a 2018 that's successful. whether leader pelosi is that person or somebody else or all together change within the democratic party we have to look at that. we owe that to our constituents. she has done great things, been a great legislator, she has passed the affordable health care act.
in terms of funding, there's been a massive change. in terms of fund-raising. the money that's come in, even in georgia 6 was not because of leadership but individual democrats want to see victory. >> what do you want to see? do you want a new leader? >> i want an open discussion to see what our options are. what we saw last time because of our push, the reason we have vice chair positions, the reason we have the reforms that have occurred at the dccc was because we challenged leadership. until we have leadership step up to tell us the plan for 2018, we'll continue pushing forward. we don't see that plan. this is not about leader pelosi but our constituents to make sure we have a winning chance. >> thank you. thank you all. appreciate you coming in this morning. coming up, donald trump, president, real estate mogul. wedding crasher? the huge nuptials he was actually invited to this weekend. that's next.
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president trump stayed in d.c. this weekend to celebrate treasury secretary steve mnuchin's wedding. but you don't have to be a cab in et official to get the president to make an appearance at your nuptials. you just have to be in the right trump place at the right time. if there's one thing we know about president trump, it's that he loves a wedding. >> you really are special, beautiful couple. >> he's the chief wedding crasher at his properties, a perk once advertised in a trump club brochure, although the club says it's since been removed. this time he's an invited guest at the wedding of his treasury secretary steve mnuchin, a former hollywood movie producer who invested in hits like avatar
and ironically, how to be single. his bride is an actress. >> hello? >> she also briefly took over as ceo of his film financing company until democrats raised ethical objections. the president will surely approve of the bridal bling, which was modeled for town and country magazine. none of it is likely to trump melania's giant diamond engagement ring, all 15 carats of it. >> let's show the ring. did you pick it? >> he picked it. >> the trumps splashed out every aspect of their wedding. melania posed in her designer gown for the cover of vogue and the guest list was a who's who of the power elite, including bill and hillary clinton. when it comes to making a marriage last, president trump says it's less glitz and more grit. >> what melania is so good at, we have this natural relationship. it's like my mother and father married 63 years. i've always heard you have to
work at a good relationship. my father didn't work at a good relationship. he went home, he had dinner, he went to bed. he watched television. my mother did the same thing. >> it was about the new mnuchins and loves his weddings like his walls, big and beautiful. >> thanks for watching. "fareed zakaria gps" is next. think again. this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov
this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show, tensions ratchet up with north korea after the death of otto warmbier. just how dangerous have things gotten? and can china play a real role in cooling things down? i have a great debate. and, chicago mayor rahm emanuel, the no-holds barred former white house chief of staff weighs in on the current white house and the man in charge of it all, donald trump. >> they've made some choices that i think will now have consequences that are not just