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they try to rally the votes needed to get their health care plan passed. the senate could vote as early as thursday aimed at replacing parts of obamacare. and we just learned president trump is working the phones. he's trying to get republican centers to change their minds and support the bill. thee spoke to rand paul of kentucky, two of the senate republicans. five more say they have concerns. senate majority leader can only afford to lose two to get the bill passed. i want to bring in white house correspondent athena jones. and what are you hearing right now from the white house and reluctant centers. >> reporter: the problem of course is that the president does not have a vote in the senate. and right now there's enough
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opposition to effectively kill the bill. you have conservatives who are concerned it doesn't go far enough to repeal obamacare. and then more moderate centers who are afraid it goes too far. they are concerned with the medicaid cuts in this bill those people will be left behind. listen to what susan collins, a republican of maine and one of the people concerned about medicaid cuts had to say followed by white house council kellyanne conway earlier this week. >> it's certainly going to be very difficult from my part. i'm very concerned about the cost of insurance for older people with serious chronic illnesses and the effect of the medicaid cuts on our state governments, the most vulnerable people in our society. and health care providers such
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as aerorural hospitals and nursing homes, most of whom are very dependent on the medicaid program. >> these are not cuts to medicaid, george. this slows the rate for the future and allows states more flexibility with medicaid dollars because they're closest to the people in need. its founding was meant the help the poor, the sick, the needy, the disabled, children, some elderly, particularly pregnant women. we are trying to get it back to its original -- >> so there you heard the white house's argument that these changes shouldn't be seen as cuts because what they're doing is ending expansion of the medicaid program, the expansion under obamacare. and they're also putting a cap on the future. others would view it differently because fewer people would be able to qualify in the future for this program. and the congressional budget office, they did score an
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earlier version of this bill in the house that also had similar changes to the medicaid program and found that it would amount to more than $800 billion in cuts. so that is what the cbo found. we'll see how they score this new bill. but there's real discrepancy what the white house is putting on this and the senator. accused hillary clinton of collusion, called senator bernie sanders crazy, and said when referring to senator warren as pocahontas, and it was an intult sult to pocahontas. despite those attacks, president trump says his arms are open. >> one of the things that should be solved but probably won't be is republicans and democrats don't get together. and i'm open arms. they fight each other. the level of hostility -- and by the way, this isn't just trump.
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this has been like this for years. it's been like that for a long time. >> while president trump likes talking about reaching across the aisle, he hasn't always done so publicly. however, recently he did meet with a democratic congressman from texas, inviting him to a private dinner. congressman, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having us. >> i understand there were only a few moderate democrats invited. you called the meeting productive. how so? >> i did. we got to talk about issues that affect the american people. we talked about infrastructure, tax reform. for me i was able to voice my opinion on the wall that would be in my district on the southern border of texas. and the deported veterans, which are very important to me. it's on issue i think needs to stop happening. and i would like to have the support of the the white house and my friends across the aisle. and i agree i think there's just
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too much gridlock in washington. it's been one of the most disappointing issues since i've arrived as a freshman member is we don't get to talk to each other enough. and i agree if you disagree with your opponents or adversaries, you should be able to sit down with them and find common ground. when i ran my campaign, i told them i was going to do this, and i'm going to continue to do it. >> so your colleague said this about your meeting. i quote, i find it amazing after someone calls you a rapist, a drug dealer, and murderer, you can sit down with him. to me that seems turning your back to the kids and families who are in harms way. is congressman gutierrez wrong? >> he absolutely is wrong. and i think not talking to my adsaries, president trump, would
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show weakness. on the senior citizens that aren't getting the medicare and social security attention they deserve and have worked for all their lives, to the veterans, on the young folks in my district who are trying to go to college and are coming out overburdened and in debt. i want to talk about those issues. those nasty things said during the campaign are of theive, but it's not going to stop me from talking with washington for the american people. i think this gridlock in washington needs to stop. what they're asking me to do is the same thing they did to president obama. and i think it was wrong when they did it, and i'm not going to be part of that. i want to be part of the solution, not part of the continued problem. and i'm going to stay on the road i'm in, and i think we're going to be fine. >> you talk about how veterans are near and dear to you.
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this administration as we know has tried to crack down on immigration. has president trump talked to you about where he stood on veterans? >> he did. i have about 40,000 to 50,000 veterans in my district. i'm very close do thattuant. i think it's so un-american, the most awful thing i can imagine we would deport veterans who came to this country, who fought for us, had no previous criminal history, come back get in a little trouble, get in a bar fight, use drugs and alcohols and find themselves in deportation facilities. when when i mentioned this, i couldn't leave the room without bringing up this subject. and he agreed we should do something about it. and i hope i can continue to work on this issue and work with friends across the aisle. and i think this should be a sweet sfaut, a common issue that all americans should be able to
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agree with, that we should not deport our heroes. and we're not getting them the mental health care they deserve when they come home. we've had mass numbers commit suicide over the past few years. first of all, we need to give them the mental health care when they come home to transition properly into society. and one's who have been deported because of an issue they did when they came home, we need to try to bring them back and stop deporting american veterans. these were veterans who served honorably, discharged honorably, and then later on ended up in trouble afterwards. >> i want to ask you a little bit about what you're doing in the house financial services committee, number of democrats on that committee has asked for information on the president's accounts to see if any have ties to russia. what has your committee learned?
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>> you mean talked about russia or -- i've been personally caught up in dealing with the choice act and dealing with the fema insurance that would affect my district. >> so you're unfamiliar with the financial services committee relate to the russian probe and this request of information from the president's accounts from germany? >> yes, we have the request. but i've not seen any evidence on that issue yet. i hope we do, and i hope we can get to the bottom of it and put it to rest and get back to the american people. i think partisan politics need to stop in this country. i think it's negatively affected us. and it's not just this administration. it's gone on for many years. but i will continue to reach across cross the aisle, find common ground. if we do find there's evidence of russian meddling, we need to
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obviously do what's appropriate. but until i see clear evidence of that, i don't want to get on that bandwagon. >> is your committee looking into any other financial dealings of the president or any other one tie to his campaign? well, i think there are people in my committee interested in trying to find financial links to russia. i focused -- since i've been on the committee, i've focused on the choice act, which just passed the house and issues relating to our flood insurance. and those have been my prime focus on the committee. >> let me ask you about your party. a number of your democratic colleagues are saying it's time for a change especially after the loss last week. should nancy pelosi stay or go? >> i think a lot of this partisan politics could be part of it.
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i don't know whether she needs to stay or go. i think she's done a good job while she's been here. she's been a very effective leader. one day it'll be time for me to go as well. and i think we should recognize it on our own. i don't think we should be infighting within ourselves. so i'm open to potentially having new leadership down the road. but i think leader pelosi has done a good job and been a good leader for many, many years. and we need to acknowledge that and see where we are. >> so right now do you support her as a leader then? >> i do. >> okay, congressman gonzalez, thanks for hashing it out with us. our next guest helps explain what it could take for those nos to become a yez and for trump care to become the law of the land. and later this hour, these are the images saudi arabia doesn't want you to see.
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get a free sample at depend.com. the man who will administer the new national health care plan, whenever its formed, says the one before the senate right now is solid. >> the plan that we have in place would not allow individuals to fall through the cracks, we would not pull the rug out from anybody. we would not have individuals lose coverage that they want for themselves and for their family. we want to make certain that health care is available to all americans. >> that was the secretary tom price on cnn's state of the union today. he also called out republicans who do not support the bill right now. and these are republicans who are saying no or maybe for the bill. that is dean heller is insisting the new bill will not lower premiums. also on the no side senator ted
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cruz from texas. chip, you used to be the chief of staff for senator cruz. tell me what it would take those in the no column to move to yes? >> good afternoon, frankly to recommit tople obamacare. any member of the u.s. senate that goes home to their constituents and says this bill repeals it, would simply be lying it. that's why they're not going out to have town halls. instead they're trying to jam it in a short week. because they recognize people back home are saying this isn't going to do anything to lower my premiums, i678 prove my care. all i'm hearing about is tax cuts for the insurer. and that's not what they've been promising for the last seven
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years. look, i think the tax cuts in the bill are important. but fundamenty at the core of the bill, you've got to get rid of regulations driving up the cost. and there are republicans and democrats who recognize if you're going to have reg ligzs involved in obamacare or whatever placement put in place, those regulations are driving up the cost. the cbo recognized that as you pointed out about the hougs bill. the cbo pointed out premiums are going to go up significantly and continue to go up over time. the only break they got was in states there might be a waiver where they could get out of regulations driving up the cost. premiums are driving up obamacare. and that's what they're trying to get their leaders in washington to actually do. >> i want to ask you some about some sticking points at least for senators, medicaid. it's a big one for those who have chosen not to support the
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bill, who are moderate in particular. let's look at houchl people are covered by medicaid. it covers 70 million americans. in fact 49% of all births, 2 in 5 children, 3 in 5 nursing residents make up that 70 million american number. what is the political calculus for republicans to pass a bill that potentially impacts and gets rid of a chunk of money that would otherwise support millions of americans who rely on medicaid? >> well, you pointed out at the outset of the show, i think, that with respect to medicaid, these cuts they're talking about are really just reductions in expansion. and in fact the gop bill actually from a conservative standpoint, it continues to expand medicaid for six, seven years into the future. and that's part of the problem. and i think the gop is picking a bad fight because what they're going to do is labeled for cutting medicaid. but they're not going to get any
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benefits for anybody actually changing the regulatory structure so that you can get premiums to go down. the only way to get good health care is to do that. i know i keep coming back to that, but that's at the core of the problem. medicaid is going to continue to expand, but the gop is going to get hit because they're reducing increases. >> and reducing those increases we're hearing from republican governors like john kasich, would nefgt leave some people who currently have medicaid out of being eligible. how might that result in -- let me rephrase the question. if medicaid isn't going to pay for those low income groups, who does? >> well, i think one on the problems you have is when you look at obamacare and when president obama would talk about 20 million americans being insured under obamacare, the fact is 14 million of those were under medicaid. and the problem was in a state like illinois, you have so many
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people on the waiting list because so many people have been jammed into the medicaid rolls you have people actually dying waiting for care and medicaid in illinois. that's what we're going to be facing in this country when we continue to jam people into medicaid rolls. the only way to free up the system is get regulations out and do what we suggested. let's flip it. let's have an upt-in. and if states want to get back in obamacare, let's turn it around and let states choose to opt-in. and if you want to reform medicaid, great, but we shouldn't pass a medicaid reform bill and call it obamacare repeal, which is what the gop is trying to do. >> thank you so much. >> thanks, ana. a silent civil war leaving millions in des pair. and the image saudi arabia doesn't want you to see in an exclusive report next. -what? -we gotta go. -where? -san francisco.
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at least 140 people are dead after a fiery blast in eastern pakistan. they were attempting to collect leaking fuel from a crashed fuel tanker when this explosion happened. and here's the video after. just moments before the truck veered off the road when the driver lost control control. and one villager told the cnn affiliate the driver of that truck had warned people to just stay away from it. but they began gathering around it anyway, and in addition to those killed more than 100 people were wounded. the u.s. secretary of state is working to try to smooth things over between the gulf nation of catarrh and a handful ofl countries that cut ties earlier this month. rex tillerson is now urging all countries involed, catarrh included to come forward and hash out their differences. they've given the country a list
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of demands to get back in their favor. and tillerson says all u.s. allies should be on the same page stopping terrorism and ending extremism. now a heart breaking story about starving children in a man-made hunger crisis. in yemen babies and toddlers are going out food for days, in some cases even weeks. more than 500,000 children are going hungry. they can't get through the blocked areas. we have to warn you some of the images in this story are very troubling. cnn's clarissa ward reports. >> reporter: these are the images that saudi arabia does not want you to see. the youngest victims of a near famine that threatens the lives of almost 7 million people. this baby is just ten months
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old. the nurse says he would be dead in two days if he hadn't come for treatment. but many yemenese can't afford to get to a hospital, in a dusty camp displaced by more than two years of civil war, our team talked to him. his ten month old son -- i cannot take him because there's no money, he says. we await god's fate. access to the victims of this man-made famine has been drastically restricted. in recent months cnn has found that the saudi arabia led coalition is deliberately blocking journalists and human rights workers from visiting the hardest hit areasch the air,
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land, and sea blockade imposed by riyadh and its partners have brought basic services to a grinding halt. more than 1100 deaths in a matter of months according to the world health organization. for this 24-year-old medic, the days have become a blur. like many hospitals it's short staffed and under equipped. how old is she, she asks? is she throwing up? the little girl has been brought in by her parents. she is the third of her children to fall ill. i'm scared, of course, her father, ali, says. your children are your world. >> patients are dying one by one. they will die at any time.
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we couldn't do anything for them. >> reporter: pleas for help appear to have fallen on deaf ears. president trump's trip to riyadh and the announcement of a massive weapons deal was seen by many to embolden the kingdom, leaving yemen's clonflict for now a silent war. >> cnn's reached out to the saudi arabian government for comment on this issue of expanding access to the hardest hit areas. the ambassador to the u.n. says saudi does not exercise anysert of censorship. the yemen government and not the saudi led coalition usually process visa approvals. clarissa ward, cnn, london. >> so disturbing. thank you, an important story. coming up rumors are swirling around justice anthony
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how will the senate health care bill affect the price of insurance premiums the looming showdown on capitol hill tomorrow could be a crucial day. that's when the bill from the congressional budget office could be made public. majority leader mitch mcconnell is not wasting time. he wants to vote on the legislation thursday before congress leaves for the july fourth holiday. right now five members of his caucus oppose it and at least three others say they have concerns. let's talk it over with bakari sellers, a democratic and now an at or near. and also alice stuart. so, alice, president trump we learned has called senator cruz
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as well as rand paul. how important do you think those two are to his sales pitch? >> well, know senator cruz is wanting to get to yes. and he be been open to negotiations and has been doing so for quite some time. look, he is beholdingen to his constituents and not to washington. the key hold ups with him in the current version of the bill that's out there on the table is he wants to see lower premiums and greater state flexibility with regard to health care. and those are things he's going to stand firm on as well as others who are opposing it. but he wants to get to yes. and he believes with the right negotiations and give-and-take and comp romise, they can do that. >> i want you guys to hear what secretary price has said about it. >> the plan we would put in
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place, would not allow individuals to fall through the cracks, not have individuals lose coverage that they want for themselves and for their family. we want to make certain that health care is available to all americans. >> bakari, is that realistic that the senate bill would likely shrink the pool of insurers by eliminating the original mandate? >> that's just thought true. whether or not it's secretary toomey or senator price, what we're seeing are republicans selling false talking points. we'll wait on the cbo score for the senate bill, but we do know millions of americans if not tens of millions of americans are going to lose their insurance plans and coverage. and these are going to be skimpy at best and deductibles are going to increase.
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this is a 200 page bill. obamacare was 2,000 pages. i can understand that. the house gop and the house senate now, they've just gone backwards. >> alice, your response? >> well, with all due respect to my friend bakari, the talking points are rich. the president and nancy pelosi and democrats promising that if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, promising they would have lower cost health care with greater access, and with more choices. and that simply hasn't been the case. millions of americans are losing health care. they can't afford it. many premiums have doubled and tripled in some cases. there are many counties in this nation where there's only one insurance option. and obamacare is falling under its own weight. and that's why republicans including president trump campaigned and won on repealing and replacing obamacare because americans want to see change.
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and that's exactlily what -- right where we are now is where the house was when they first put a text on the table. we have the more conservative members in the house freedom caucus saying hold on a minute, we want lower cost and more access to care. and others are saying hold on a minute, we prumsed our constituents lower cost and greater access to care. >> bakari, when you hear some of those arguments like senator ted cruz, senator rand paul, their arguments are it's too much like obamacare. you don't see that as a small victory? >> well, no, i don't see it as a small victory because we're tuck talking about 1/6th of the economy, and people's lives here. ted cruz and rand paul and the republican party have had seven
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years to come with up with a plan. and they're floundering. they still don't have a plan. they're going to put forth a repeal and replace plan that's going to kick tens of millions of people off health care. the semantics are cute because they always say we want to make sure people have access to care. it's not access when you're priced out of it. it's not access when you don't get coverage for catastrophic injury. that's not access. we have the least transparent process ever, and i'm hopeful that we can come together and begin to fix obamacare because this repeal and replace idea has been bad from the beginning. >> all right, bakari sellers, we've got to live it there. thanks to both you. and this time tomorrow we could know if justice anthony kennedy will retire and possibly change the court profoundly.
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to liberals kennedy has been a hero at times and his protected abortion rights, legalized same sex marriage. and so his retirement could cause a seismic shift in the court's make-up and give president trump a chance to install a conservative majority for decades. arian, what do we know about kennedy's plans? >> reporter: you're right, all eyes are on justice anthony kennedy. sources say he's considering retirement, but none know if it could come as early as this term. it would be a big change not only for his state but for this country. he's voted with conservatives for issues like gun rights, campaign finance, bush v. gore.
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and if president trump were able to get this second vacancy, it would be an enormous opportunity because he'd be able to replace this centrist, anthony kennedy, with a conservative. so it's a serious moment and all eyes will be watching the court tomorrow and during the next week. >> what's your gut tell you? you covered the court. you know the inside secrets, oftentimes. what does your gut tell you about what decision he's going to make about whether he will retire this soon? >> well, making an announcement now would be making it awfully late in the term. i guess on one hand you look at it, he's 80 yooerz old, he has this rich legacy on the supreme court. maybe he wants to spend more time with his grand children children. but he knows how important his
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role is. so he could well decide to wait, maybe, another term, spend more time with his former clerk neil gorsuch and wait until next term. we'll have to see. it'll be fascinating to watch. go, the travel ban, that issue could come up tomorrow. >> right. we're watching for the travel ban. the administration has come to the supreme court and said, look, we want you to put this travel ban that has never been allowed to go into effect, in effect now, and we want you to hear arguments on next term. so again the supreme court is contemplating that. it could make an announcement as early as tomorrow. coming up an exclusive interview with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg, why he says he's changing the company's mission. you're live in the cnn newsroom. . love, grandpa.
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we have a cnn exclusive with facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg as he lays out a new mission for the world's most popular socmedia network. that mission, bringing the world closer together. it has been several years since mark zuckerberg sat down with a journalist for an interview. lori. >> hey, ana, well facebook's almost at 2 billion users. you think about the amount of reach that has, the impact. and a lot of us are asking about the future of facebook and that impact. and mark zuckerberg has been speaking the future of facebook so much so he's decided to completely over haul the mission. i had the opportunity to sit down with his here in chicago. take a listen. >> i used to think that if we
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just work to give people a voice and help people connect, that was going to make the world all better by itself. but now i feel like we have a responsibility to do even more. because today a lot of society is divided, right, so it's pretty clear just giving people a voice and connecting people isn't enough. >> reporter: it's an admission by one of the most flunchs tech leaders that the world's most popular social media network needs to change. >> so today we're going to set a new mission to set our course as a company for the next decade. and the full former mission statement is going to be to give people the power to >> it's the first time facebook has overhauled its core mission, shifting focus from connecting individuals to building communities. zuckerberg made the announcement at facebook's first community summit, a gathering of leaders and influential facebookers.
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lola is a creator of female in, a place for over a million women to connect. >> when you talk to make people feel safe and that's what facebook is providing now. this is to help us better manage our communities. >> and we'll help you remove bad actors and their content. [ cheers and applause ] >> what does that mean to you, specifically? >> it means trolls. >> the question. are we more connected or has technology driven us apart? technology to a degree is always promised to help us discover and to help us learn. there's also the question of does it make us more insular and is information being hijacked and spread? so as you make the future of facebook, these communities, how do you make sure they remain a place for authenticity and for real discourse? >> you want to help people stay connected with the people they already know and care about, but you also want to make it so people get access to new people and new perspectives, too. >> so bringing people together
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and creating these communities is, i think, a lot of what we can do to help create more civil and productive debate on some of the bigger issues, as well. >>. >> ana, a lot of this is giving these communities tool. they help kick bad actors out of the facebook groups to help them grow organically. think about the women's march and how impactful that was and how that was a movement that went across facebook and these facebook groups. you get the sense that mark is looking to create more movements like that than, you know, the opposite and at a time when we're all asking with the facebook and are we living in our own filter bubbles. we want to be more connected and not more divided and this is a clear play by mark zuckerberg to try to make that. ana? >> lauri segal, president,
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wedding crasher? first, what should be on your radar before the bell on wall street. let's get to christina alessi with more "before the bell." >> hi, ana. investors will look to end june with gains after some rocky trading sessions this week. the market is still up for the month so far, but gains for the year are even more impressive and the dow is up 8.5% and the s&p up 9% and the nasdaq is the big winner with a 16% gain, but a long list of economic reports due this week might actually slow the rally down. we'll get data on consumers, manufacturers and most importantly, a fresh look at how the overall economy is performing. gdp came in at 1.2% during the first quarter and we'll get the final revision of that number. remember, the trump administration wants 3% growth and said last week that tax cuts are key to getting us there, and finally, next week marks the tenth anniversary of the iphone.
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the device accounts for more than half of apple's quarterly revenue and its success is part of the reason why it's one of the best-performing stocks in the dow this year, up more than 25%, but even more stunning, since its launch apple has sold more than 1 billion iphones. christina alessi, cnn money, new york. with e*trade's powerful trading tools, right at your fingertips, you have access to in-depth analysis, level 2 data, and a team of experienced traders ready to help you if you need it. ♪ ♪ it's like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are. it's your trade. ♪ ♪ e*trade. ♪ ♪
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president trump stayed in d.c. this weekend to celebrate steve mnuchin's wedding, but you don't have to be a cabinet official to get the president to make an appearance at the nuptials. you just have to be at the right
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trump place at the right time. here's dana bash. >> reporter: if there's one thing we know about president trump it's that he loves a wedding. >> you really are a special and beautiful couple, and i hope everybody -- >> he's the chief wedding crasher at his properties, a perk that was once advertised in a trump club brochure, although the club says it's since been removed. this time, he's an invited guest at the wedding of his treasury secretary steve mnuchin who is a former hollywood movie producer who invested in hits like "avatar". >> i knew this would happen. >> and ironically, "how to be single". >> his bride is an actress. >> she also briefly took over as ceo of mnuchin's film financing company until democrats raised ethical objections. the president will surely approve of the bridal bling which linton modeled for "town
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and country magazine," but nothing is going to trump melania's giant diamond engagement ring, all 15 carats of it. >> let's see the ring? >> he picked it. >> melania posed in her designer gown for the cover of "vogue" and the guest list was a who's who of the power elite including bill and hillary clinton. when it comes to making a marriage last, president trump says it's less glitz and more grit. >> what melania is so good at. we have this natural relationship. it's like my mother and father were married 63 years. i've always had to work at a good relationship. my father didn't work. he went to work, watched television and went to bed. my mother, the same, she cooked him dinner. their presidential guests who loves his weddings like his walls, big and beautiful. dana bash, cnn, washington.
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top of the hour. i'm monica brower in the newsroom. we begin this hour with a ticking clock on health care and a pivotal week ahead for president trump. can republican leadership secure the votes in the senate? the current math just doesn't add up and the senior white house official admits to cnn it's going to be, quote, a rocky week. will the vote happen before the holiday recess, will mitch mcconnell be able to flip the no votes? and how will he make the case to the american people? we just learned an important price tag for the senate health care bill may be unveiled tomorrow. the congressional budget office could release its score on the bill and republicans are nervously awaiting that number. meanwhile, president bush is working the phones trying to convince reluctant senators to change their minds and support the legislation. the white

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