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they clear want to get francis her as well. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. our breaking news coverage continues right now with erin burnett "outfront." erin is in las vegas right now. good evening, i'm erin burnett live in las vegas tonight. welcome to your viewers across the united states and around the world. the horrific breaking news, at least 59 people are dead tonight, 527 are injured. this is the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. it is an unspeakable tragic, and it began late last night here where we are along the las vegas strip. ♪ [ gunfire ]
>> that was the sound of the storm of bullets that hit a massive crowd of concert goers. we are learning details about the gunman and how this could possibly have happened. he's a 64-year-old former accountant named stephen paddock. he was 32 stories above that crowd. moments ago, police revealed that the shooter had 16 guns with him inside his hotel room which was at the mandalay bay which is the casino directly behind where weir stacked. police found ammonium nitrate which a highly exposlosive insi the shooter's car. the carnage from this mass shooting is truly horrific, there aren't words to imagine what happened here. i want to warn you that the video we're about to show you is very disturbing. this is what you see, this was the scene. witnesses saw bodies everywhere.
everywhere is what they're telling us. the injuries were horrible. so many shot, others trampled, others hit by fragments, chaos as 22,000 people ran from the gunfire that to so many seemed never to stop. the big question tonight is still, why? why would this person from mesquite, nevada-0 miles from las vegas, living in a retirement community described by his brother as a multimillionaire, why did he do this? paddock's brother eric spoke out earlier today, and he says that he's equally mistified about his brother and how this could have happened. >> we're lost. i don't understand. it makes -- there's no anything. not an avid gun guy at all. the fact he had those kind of weapons is just -- where the
hell did he get automatic weapons? he doesn't have a military backward or anything like that. he's a guy who lived in a house in mesquite and drove down and gambled in las vegas. >> we begin our breaking coverage with martin samplividg. where did this arsenal come from. >> every time we have one of these updates, you get more stunning revelations. they're working the concert venue and the hotel room and two residences. in addition to what was found in the hotel room, they found 18 more weapons. they say thousands and thousands
of rounds of ammunition. that's what they discovered as far as the weaponry and it's just amazing. >> it is. it's impossible to comprehend. they are saying that he killed himself perhaps just before they entered the room, but you're learning about that incident? >> right. it's been back and forth on this one. it was initially reported he took his own life at the moment the s.w.a.t. team made entry on the 32nd floor. now they say as the s.w.a.t. as far as broke in the door, the gunman charged them, made it through the door, struggled with the officers and was able to get one shot wounding one s.w.a.t. officer in the leg and the gunman was killed. >> martin savidge, thank you very much. when you think about what happened here, it happened over 10, 15 minutes, which can seem like an eternity. at the end, 59 as of this moment have died. 527 more are wounded tonight. ♪
[ gunfire ] >> just after 10:00 p.m., gunfire rained down out in the open on the las vegas strip. in 198408, the first 911 calls to police. >> i'm inside the mandalay bay on the 31st floor, i can hear the automatic fire coming from one floor above us. >> the crowd is some 400 yards away from the sniper's nest in the mandalay bay hotel. completely exposed in an open field. authorities believe the shooter used a hammer to smash out the windows on his room on the 32nd floor. >> the gunshots lasted for ten or 15 minutes. it didn't stop. >> everyone said, hit the floor, so everyone was laying on top of each trying to get out of the way. the shots just kept coming. >> at first, confusion in the crowd.
[ screams ] >> then panic. chaos, thousands of people literally running for their lives. >> get down. >> why is there blood? >> no matter which direction you went in no matter where you took cover, there were two or three bodies that were a poverty and you didn't know where you were safe. >> dozens lay dead, hundreds more injured. >> people were climg the fences pushing their way through the barricades. >> we had a man come running up to us blood down his shirt saying his friends were dead. >> las vegas first responders were quick on the scenes, but faced with an overwhelming task. the gunman holed up somewhere inside a 43-story hotel with more than 3,000 rooms. but thanks in part to 911 calls from inside the hotel, officers
were able to locate him quickly. >> on the suspect's door. i need everyone to get back. see if he's in here or if he's actually moved somewhere else. >> breach, breach, breach. >> 11:28, almost an hour and a half after this nightmare began, police below the shooter's door. inside, 64-year-old stephen paddock lay dead. police believe he shot himself seconds before. also in the room, at least ten rifles. >> he was my brother. it's like an asteroid fell out of the sky. >> eric paddock in disbelief that his brother could leave behind the deadliest mass shooting. >> there's not even anything i can say. how do you -- i mean, my brother did this. this is like it was done like he shot us.
>> "outfront" tonight, someone who was on stage during the shooting, radio host stormy warren. your life has completely changed. >> everyone who was there, everybody who's watching the coverage of this, you have a our lives have changed. >> and you were there, obviously. you were really on stage essentially as this started? >> yeah. jason aldean was 20 minutes into his final headlining set for the entire festival weekend, and rat a tat tat, we thought it was pyrotechnics, maybe an audio glitch. we knew definitely we were under fire. and i got the band off stage, got everybody off the stage and started tending to people as quick as possible. >> so many people are filming the concert with their phones, there is audio of some of what happened. i just wanted to play a piece
because when people hear it, it might feel probably as you felt that it was probably part of the act i'll give a chance who were not there to hear that first moment. ♪ [ gunfire ] >> i can't imagine what it's like for you to -- you probably hear that in your mind all day? >> yeah. we had to turn the volume down last night 3:00 in the morning. we couldn't sleep. every clip played those bullets back and forth. it's a sound no one should have to hear in our country, ever. >> at first you thought it was part of the act, but immediately you started rushing in to try to help people because after there was that first barrage of bullets, there was then a pause, right? a brief pause as you ran out to
help? >> i guess he was reloading and there was volley after volley of machine gunfire. at that point we were just hiding and just trying to make sure we were not going to exposed. we didn't know exactly where it was coming from. we assumed it was coming from the rooftop at mandalay bay. and only after about 25, 20 minutes ever silaence did we fel like we could go out and tend to people. that's where the true horror revealed itself. we walked into the ball where all the fans were, and it was empty beer cups, trash, and bodies. >> that's when you realized people were dead. >> i didn't realize to the extent of what the carnage was. to have the injuries, people screaming for help, and not
enough help at that moment, the first responders got there as fast as they could and they did an amazing job, but the humanity that revealed itself last night. veterans, i have medical training, i can help, helping everybody -- everybody helping, whether it was comfort, water, towels, whatever, everybody chipped in and tried to do whatever we could. >> so many people there lying, wanting help. from what you could see, were the people who could still benefit from help, getting it? >> not as fast as i think they or any of us would have liked. that was the hard part. some people dying literally. some things we just couldn't do. >> when you think about what happened, do you have any comprehension -- you said you had a feel for where the bullets were coming from.
and now you're starting to hear these things about this person. how anybody, anybody could do something like this person did? >> i can't put it in words, i can't think about it. i can't think of what person breaks a window, points a rifle out the window at a sea of people having the time of their lives, and what he plans to get from that. what is the goal? he ends up dead anyway. what did help t want to achieve? >> what now? >> we'll still have festivals. country fans will still come out and enjoy the music, and we will not let this stop us, but we're going to pause for a minute. >>, of course, you have to. thank you. more details about the shooter. this big question of how a human
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. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. the breaking news, a s.w.a.t. team about to enter one of the homes of the gunman behind what is the deadliest shooting in modern american history. we're learning disturbing new details about the 64-year-old shooter. the county sheriff revealing in addition to 16 guns in his hotel room, they are saying there were 18 additional firearms at his home, the home they believe he came from to the mandalay bay, as well as several thousands rounds of ammunition. they also found ammonium nitrate in his car which was also used to carry out the oklahoma city bombing. kyung lah is in mesquite near the shooter's home. we are learning moment by moment here, so much more. >> what's becoming very clear,
erin in those frightening numbers you're sharing is it appears he was stock piling in this retirement community, that he potentially could have done a large amount of damage with all of that ammunition and weaponry and explosives. but what is not clear is the motive, the why. when the s.w.a.t. team broke down the door of a room on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay casino, the gunman was already dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. leaving verinvestigators to question why he would gun down a crowd. >> we checked all the federal databases and state databases and we had no knowledge of this individual. >> paddock checked into the mandalay bay september 28th. but it wasn't until sunday night that he broke through the windows of his hotel room to begin his murderous rampage. police found ten or more guns in the hotel room.
>> this is an individual that was described as a lone wolf. i don't know how it could have been prevented if we didn't have prior knowledge to this individual. >> the brother said he also had no warning. he lives in orlando and he says the last time they spoke was after hummrricane irma. >> last time i talked to him, he texted to ask how our mother was. >> he says his brother was rich, playing $100 hands of video poker. >> steve had nothing to do with any political organization, religious organization, no white supremacis supremacist, nothing as far as i know. yes, he had a couple guns. it's legal to own a couple guns in the united states. he did not own machine guns that i knew of.
>> his father, a convicted bank robber, he was on the fbi most wanted list from 1969 to 1977. >> he's dead. he died a handful of years afgt i was born on the run. and that's the last time he was ever associated with our family. >> paddock decided to retire in mesquite, nevada, a community of 18,000 people, about 80 miles from las vegas. police searched the home he shared with his girlfriend and finding guns and ammunition, but few obvious clues about a most of. >> nothing out of the ordinary. >> certainly something was out of the ordinary as investigators laid out those numbers for us, 18 weapons found in the home. several thousand running of skpamgs explosives found in the car in the form of fertilizer. there are going to be a lot of questions about this live-in girlfriend who's now in tokyo. what does she know and how she
could have not known. erin? >> all right, thank you very much. now art roderick join us me along with former fbi special agent james gagly llano. why? >> what we found since the first mass shooting in the you asked was august 1st, 1966 at the university of texas clock tower shooting, what we found is there's a process that happens. somebody comes up with a grievance and targeted a particular group. and then there's a trigger event. we know the concert was basically announced last february. it looks like from the weapons that they found from the planning, the execution, looks like this plan was in place for a long time. >> because the number of weapons, what he planned to do with the ammonium nitrate, dwlorngs 16 guns in the hotel room, 18 in his home.
scopies, tripods. >> the planning that went into this particular incident. i spent in my younger days i was a countersniper with the u.s. marshals special operations group. you not only had to be a good shot, but you had to pick the location to shoot from. i think at some point he was standing in the middle of that parking lot where they had the concert and looked up and found the best location to shoot from. and he took the corner suite so that he had two different angles to shoot from. and he picked a distance of a quarter of a mile away so that the individuals he was targeting, he's shooting into a mass group, he wasn't picking any particular individuals off. but it was confusing for them because they couldn't tell right away where the rounds were coming from. >> you're talking about here 300 to 400 yards away, across the street from the concert, and he's shooting down. and he killed 59 people. injured more than 500, talking 527 that we know of right now.
we don't know of any military history or anything, but he did have tripods, this someone who had training or is this just -- he let a gun go. >> it was certainly somebody in possession of automatic weaponry. when i listened to the chilling sound of the weapons, he either obtained an automatic weapon illegally or he bought a semiautomatic weapon and used a modification kit and illegally modified that weapon. i understand there were a couple tripods and as art pointed out, the fact that he had broken out two corner windows and the problem for the victims on the ground, it's so difficult to determine where the shots are coming from. storme pointed out he could see the rounds impacting on the stage. the people at ground level had no idea. so instead of being able to run out of the killing zone, some of them might have been running back into it. >> or getting low, which would be one of your first instincts
which would make you more prone. when you think about what happened, you're saying he selected even the event itself? >> yes. >> there also would have been a breaking point, we didn't know what the grievance was, what role if any his girlfriend in tokyo played. we don't know. all we know is he had a home in florida, investment home he sold in 2015. they said he was wealthy. gentle giant. we don't know anything except that his father was a psychopathic bank robber. >> to me there was a lot of planning that went into this. i think he left a note or something somewhere to describe what he's doing because he knew he was either going to kill himself or law enforcement was going to kill him. >> what about that? it feels like a horrible word to
use, the miracle is he could have kept killing. they got to that room quickly. >> the new paradigm with terrorists is this, they don't stick around for protracted negotiations anymore. it's not 1975 in dog day afternoon. it's literally let me kill as many as people as possible and i'm going to kill myself or await suicide by cop. it was a dynamic entry. not all police departments are quipped with equipment to use explosive breaching to get inside. the subject obviously knew the gig was up at that time and killed himself. but the speed and that critical fail-safe breach all worked in their favor in this instance. >> they saved lives. >> absolutely. the interesting thing about this whole negotiation issue, we talked about this during orlando. that particular individual was negotiating so he had more time
to kill more people. that's exactly what we have to look at from law enforcement now, is how do we handle these types of situations because they're just stalling for time so they can get a higher body count. >> thank you both very much. so many questions tonight. security is beefed up at the hotels along this strip tonight. how did the shooter get 16 guns into his hotel room without anybody noticing? and then into action, carrying victims to safety, applying tourniquets. we'll beout front. hing so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "red-hot mascot." [mascot] hey-ooo! whoop, whoop! [crowd 1] hey, you're on fire! [mascot] you bet i am! [crowd 2] dude, you're on fire! [mascot] oh, yeah! [crowd 3] no, you're on fire! look behind you. [mascot] i'm cool. i'm cool. [burke] that's one way to fire up the crowd. but we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
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welcome back to a special edition of "outfront." i'm live in las vegas. 527 people right now injured, fighting for their lives. 59 people murdered in the deadliest shooting in modern american history. new details tonight about the shooter, 64-year-old man. police say they found 18 firearms, explosives and thousands of rounds of ammo near the shooter's home. they found ammonium nitrate in his car. the motive remains a mystery. they don't know why she would suddenly fire upon concert goers attending music festival across the street from his hotel, which is behind me. dan simon is in front of the the mandalay bay. the mandalay bay has reopened. i was just there a few moments ago. what is the security situation there where you are?
>> we are told that security personnel have lifted all restrictions to the property, that means people can come and go as they please, go to their rooms. the same applies to all mgm reporters. we know at least one casino in las vegas has stepped up security. we saw security personnel at the wynn resort. they were looking at bags as people were going into the hotel. but erin, there are still questions about what happened, of course, at the mandalay bay. how did the shooter get all those guns up to his room, all 16 of them? did he make multiple trips? did he do it himself? at a certain point, did he put a "do not disturb" design? so many questions left unanswered. >> this is going to be a long investigation. they are trying to find out who to ask those questions. mayor goodman, so sorry for what
has happened in your city. no wards to describe what you are dealing with tonight. >> thank you. >> mandalay bay, i know, is trying to have -- yes? >> the entire community is just devastated by this. and, of course, the families that lost those 59 victims, we just can't even imagine how they are suffering. >> do you have any idea at this point, mayor, any idea as to why this man did this, why he targeted this event? >> no, i don't think we've yet gotten that. the sheriff is going ahead with a thorough investigation. the killer came from a town nearby. i understand he owned property there and another piece of property in northern nevada. i'm not sure how long he lived there, but i did call my friend,
the mayor of mesquite, and he said he was unaware of the man and that's a very small community because even here in las vegas, we know each other pretty well. >> so do you have any idea as to how he managed to do what he did, and by that, the latest we understand from the sheriff is he had 17 guns in the hotel room in the mandalay bay, multiple rifles among them, scopes, tripods, any idea how he was able to bring that into that hotel? >> wherever you travel in the word for word, you travel with your bags. on an airplane, you know it's always searched. if you travel by car here or by bus or rail, there is none of that, and all of us have to insist upon the freedoms to be able to take your baggage and go where we want to go. so i don't think there was
anything that was suspicious. i don't believe there is the type of security that we have to go through at the airport, and so for him to take bags up to his room, i'm sure just was no matter how many because people come here, they're entertainers. some of our entertainers have a lot of bags. all they had to look at was he credentials and credit card. the reality, having spent most of this morning over at umc and our number one trauma unit, and the confusion among those who had been shot at and had wounds, as to where the gunshots were coming from -- first of all, there were gunshots at all, because this is a great outdoor concert that was going on. it was in its third night and
there were loud speakers and everything was so much technology today, really speaks out of explosive things happening and fireworks and so the initial reaction -- and i spoke to some of these patients was, i know this what it was or where it was coming from, much less that it was coming from up on the 32nd floor of the nearby hotel. >> mayor, of course, this is not something anybody would have ever thought would happen, as you just explained yourself with the baggage or coming from the 32nd floor no one would have thought of this happening. but now it has. and there's fear. and you have tens of thousands of people coming here daily for conferences and concerts. do you think anything will change? >> you know, no, what we found out from all of this is how unbelievably bonded and supportive our community is
here. first of all, our first responders and law enforcement, oh, my heavens, they are so phenomenal. we had 22,000 people at that site that night. they had been there for two days. we had law enforcement there to make sure the people that were coming to the concerts were legitimate and paid their fare coming in and were acting orderly, which they were. this is western music, these are kids in cowboy boots and cowboy hats, and just out for a nice, good time. so many young people, and really and truly all ages. when you have one crazed individual, i can't tell you how supportive this country's been. buddy dyer in orlando, look what they went through with pulse, and the governor malloy in connecticut and sandy hook. you look at crazed people that
are bent on doing the most destructive things. and i think this town is very resilient. we have a wonderful community. our law enforcement is absolutely unequalled. they are so phenomenal. and our first responders -- and we have people who have come here from different counties in nevada and neighboring states to help us. >> i appreciate your time, thank you. next, they survived. a couple who began the night enjoying like the mayor was talking about, a young couple enjoying the concert ended up running for their lives. and many people did what they could to help, anything they could do to help people who were lying around them. my next guests didn't think twice before dragging strangers to safety. (avo) when you have type 2 diabetes, you manage your a1c,
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people are fighting for their lives in critical condition. "outfront" now, one of the men who jumped into the action to save lives as the shots started to ring out for that intermble ten to 15 minutes. brendan, we're so glad you're okay, your family is okay. i know you were there with them and you had really wandered away to get something to drink much out of nowhere you heard the shots. what did you think when you started -- first heard that noise. >> to me it sounded like fireworks. the people that i was with -- i was standing next to -- why would someone bring fireworks to a show like this? we started seeing flashing coming from mandalay bay and people just falling down. it was kind of set in that someone was shooting, an active shooter.
>> i know your family, your mother and aunt and cousins were with you. they were evacuated in safely, but then you went back. what made you go back? >> i knew they were going to be able to safe. they were on the other side of the concert by the malibu booth. i knew they would be okay. the main thing going through my head was if someone on my family was there, i would want to go to their aid. >> what did you see? >> initially when the first burst of gunfire came out, i ran through the house of blues,
trying to get everybody to go through there. hopped a fence with one of the guys that i was with. we pulled down the fence because so many people weren't able to climb over the fence, so we just pulled on it so we could bend the metal on it. and then we started seeing people running out with blood all over them. that's kind of when it set in, like, we need to do something right now. you don't want casualties. it's a big family venue. everybody there is just so, so nice, so it is just one of those things you got to take them in as your family. >> and i know you were grotryino do everything you could with tourniquets. how many people were you able to help?
>> i want to say anywhere in the ballpark of 14 to 16 that were at least hit with gunshot wounds. i know we had a girl with a broken ankle that we helped get into the parking lot. at first it was just me and this other guy and another guy joined us, so we had -- it was just the three of us, and we were able to pick people up and carry them. we were meeting people in the parking lot that had vehicles ready. -- to get them out of there to the hospitals. as far as the tourniquets go, just from training i received prior, we were grabbing clothing and breaking metal legs off chairs just to tie it around someone, just to get it on them. we couldn't find something
strong enough, we would tie it as tight as we could. >> brendan, thank you very much. i know there are many who are grateful for what you did and others like you who tried so much to help people and save lives. thank you. >> thank you. next, police are getting ready right now. they're going to raid a second home belonging to the shooter as they're trying to understand exactly what he was planning. seems like he had much, much more in terms of his arsenal and why. a nurse, police department employee, and teachers much we're going to honor the memory of those who were killed in this attack. for 17 years running. but some people still like cable. just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. drinking spoiled milk. camping in poison ivy. getting a papercut. and having their arm trapped in a vending machine. but for everyone else, there's directv.
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thousands of ammunition were found in one of his homes. plus fertilizer was found in his vehicle and an explosive called tan rite in his home. that's what we know in that home. our james is back with me. we know about the one home, 17 firearms, fertilizer, ammonium nitrate and now they're about to go into another one. >> absolutely. and they have to assume the house has been booby trapped. someone in this type of position is someone that can make a pipe bomb or something to trap the house. i believe the police in this instance will do a slow and law enforcement clear for their safety security. they'll probably use a robot. >> you also think it's possible
at this location? >> they could. if ame moan yum nitrate or some kind of explosive like this, yes, they can use their means and take the time on this. >> what about the timing, again we don't know the motivate which is going to be crucial. but james, when you think about the stuff in his vehicle, he had not turned that into an explosive and he -- it's almost as if was he planning on this not about event? he was suddenly motivated to be done quickly or does that make sense? >> we don't know a motivate so that's what they're going to look for in the house. they're going to search for something he's written or beenon line with. what did his cell phone say, what do a lap to top say.
maybe there were handwritten notes underneath his bed. it's going to start out and be clear to milwaukee sure there are no other weapons to hurt somebody. the next phase is going to be a pain staking crime scene. >> they're hoping this location would fester something. they just don't know. >> i just can't imagine him planning all this, going through this, looking at the plans, establishing this as his target and not writing anything down. i think they're going to find something either in the house in mesquite or the house here. >> what we understand at this point, he didn't have a military or criminal background. there's no evidence at this point. we don't know of any kind of sense of gun training. there's nothing that would indicate it's a profile of anybody we've seen before, history of illness or anything that we're aware of. >> sure. he's 64 years old which puts him just to the outside of where we find the age to these folks. you're going to look like
something that's been motivated, definition of terrorism, is it violence, threats. so he just could have been disgruntled but there's always a component of mental health. this was not a stable individual. it was a craved man yak. >> i'm not yet taken it to the next step -- >> when you look at both of those, what was he planning too to the do -- >> the tan rite was in the home in mesquite. >> you put all this together and you got somebody, possibly a bomb factor, was it a car going to be used as a bomb, did he have enough time, was he going to shoot into the vehicle to try to ex explode the amain yoem nitrate in the car. >> do you think anybody else knew anything? >> that is something that is
absolutely in the forefront of the investigators' mind. first of all they got to find out if anybody knew of it and also from a human intelligent standpoint. what can we tell them about something potentially happening going on down there. >> all right, as we know the girlfriend's in tokyo right now, we don't know anything about why, the state of their relationship. thank you both very much. next a woman described as a loving kinder garden teacher. she's among the 59 people dead tonight. we remember the victims.
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their lives. sonny melton was a nurse from tennessee and just got married. he was 29 years old. his wife is a surgeon who survived the attack. she says he saved my life but at this point i can barely breathe. jenny parks was a kindergarten teacher she was from lancaster, california. a relative say she was truly one of the most loving people you could ever hope to meet. her husband was one of the 527 injured. rachel parker, she was a ten year veteran at the police department in manhattan beach, california. she survived the initial shooting and died in the hospital. sandy kasie was a special education teacher at a maldonado in manhattan, beach. lfred by school colleagues, school board says we lost a spectacular teacher.
angela gomez, described as a fun loving, sweet young woman, she was an academic honor student at riverside california. she really did have her whole live ahead of her. susan smith. she was a wife, mother and office manager at a middle school in california. always welcoming we were told. and always smiling. thank for joining us. our breaking news coverage continues now with "ac 360." . welcome to "360" anderson will be here shortly. i'm john berman. there really aren't words for what happened last night. none to describe one single second of what must have felt like forever.