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>> this is cnn tonight past 11:00 and live with breaking news. jim has spoken with the last hour to carter page and has new information about his meetings with a high level russian official. president trump landed in hawaii on his way to asia for a high stakes 12-day-trip. with the dark cloud of the russia investigation hanging over him, can he make headway with leaders in the part of the world that threatens to turn into a power kick. i top the get to jim and he joins us now. you spoke with carter page in the last hour. what did he tell you? >> he confirmed that during a visit to moscow july 2016 he met with a senior russian government official and in fact he
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identified that official as the deputy prime minister of russia. i should say carter page testified before the house intelligence committee and he met in moscow with a senior government official that did not identify that official. we since learned who that was. the deputy prime minister. this is after earlier today. carter page spoke to my colleague jake tapper and jake tapper pressed him on the meetings he had in russia and in that interview carter page said he had only met business people. carter page described this me meeting to me not as a formal meeting sit down, but they were both speaking at the same conference at the new economic school in moscow in july 2016 and he met him when they were in the course of that conference. he described it more of a casual hello rather than a formal
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meeting. to be clear he changed his story on this a number of times including as recently as a few hours ago on this very network. >> jim, he spoke with you tonight. he spent almost seven hours testifying at the house. two cable news interviews. why is he talking so much when this investigation is clearly serious? >> i think carter page basically says he's not ashamed or scared or concerned to tell his story. he doesn't feel that he did anything wrong here. the trouble i suppose is that the details of that story have changed. including just in a few hours today. but again i should say from his point of view this is not a consequential addition of information. in other words, i may not have told you i did meet this guy at the conference, but we didn't talk about anything important, etc. the trouble is when you have a series of changes like that overtime, it makes you question
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what might be revealed in the next conversation. i suppose the trouble is it's not confined to carter page because you had other advisers to the president who changed their story overtime about meetings that took place and even the content of the meetings with russian officials and russians that are known to the u.s. intelligence. >> the advise from attorneys whether you are guilty or innocent, don't say anything. >> thanks, don. >> i want to turn to president trump's asia trip. matt rivers live in beijing. president trump has been escalating his rhetoric with north korea for months. this is a major threat to the region. how high are the stakes for president trump's trip? >> frankly given the worst case scenario that is possible with the ongoing crisis with north korea, the stakes couldn't be higher. donna trump is coming here amidst tense times.
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it was 48 hours or so that the north koreans may test launch a missile while he is in the region and has to meet with the leaders to come up with a long-term solution to the crisis. that alluded him so far and alo alluded the obama and bush administrati administration. no one thinks donald trump will be able to solve the crisis in the long-term, but the fact of the matter is throughout his presidency and more recently, donald trump undermined his secretary of state this this part of the world. he has declined to fill diplomatic positions that have been used throughout asia and specifically with north korea to help come up with diplomatic solutions to the tricky questions. when he meets with the leaders of countries like china and japan and south korea, they don't have anywhere else to turn. when they are trying to figure out what the u.s. is thinking, they need to go to trump because
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there is no representation from members of his administration. >> the cnn global affairs and national security analyst and pj crowley, the former assistant secretary of state under president obama and the author of red line foreign policy in a time of fractured politics and falling states. good evening and thank you for coming on. north korea is lashing out after u.s. air force b-1 bombers and other fighter jets flew off the peninsula this week. it was a long planned military exercise and tensions have rarely been higher. what does it mean for president trump? >> it means that he has to watch his rhetoric. when he talks tough on north korea, it endeterminangers hund thousands of lives in south korea. if he doesn't try to score domestic points in the u.s. by talking tough when he's on south korean soil.
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it's a dangerous situation and if there is conflicts, the vast majority will be south koreans and fewer americans. >> the president is heading to japan and south korea and china and vietnam and the philippines. his last international trip went well and you say this is a different ball game. why did you say that? >> it's the longest trip in his year as president. it is a region that is very important to the united states in terms of national security. in terms of economic security. as matt was saying, it will be a major opportunity for the trump administration to fill in the blanks of foreign policy. is there a path forward on north korea that the allies in the region and an equal like xi can get behind? one of the first actions of the trump administration was to withdraw from the transpacific partnership, the tpp. in terms of trade which the president said trade will be an
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issue he will talk about. who will replace the vacuum that has been created by the withdrawal from tpp? these are major issue that is the obama administration pivoted to asia. now the question will be is the trump administration going to sustain that pivot or move to another part of the world? >> samantha, you have been on trips like this with president obama. how difficult are they? what is the administration up against over the next 12 days? >> these trips are highly complex and very tiring under the best of circumstances. ad libbing on these trips is not good policy. when i was at the white house and preparing president obama, we often asked the intelligence community for leader profiles of everybody that the president was going to be meeting with. that way when we crafted his talking points, we did so armed with the analysis of where they were coming from. if the president doesn't tickst
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to the talking points, it could have nuclear consequences. >> they want to avoid getting the president out of his comfort zone. that includes food, a person involved in the trip said no whole fish with the heads on, nothing too spicy for the president. how important are requests like this in avoiding slip ups? it may sound small, but is it a big deal? >> it doesn't sound small. you start planning these trips months or years in advance. every detail is planned to a t so there are no surprises and no miscommunication. >> etiquette and protocol are important in asia. in many ways they are the opposite of president trump's impulsive in your face style. a national security adviser addressed that. watch this. >> the president will use whatever language he wants to use and what the president has done is clarified if all of his
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discussions and statements on north korea our determination to ensure that north korea is unable to threaten allies and our partners and certainly the united states. i don't think the president modulates his language if you noticed. he has been very clear about it. aware of the discussions about inflammatory. what's inflammatory is the north korean regime and what they are doing to threaten the world. >> how do you think the president will be received by leaders in the region? >> i think the chinese in particular are not impressed so far. they see the bravado and the threats. there is a deliberate long-term strategy. trump is the opposite. very erratic. he meat so many threats over so many months and not really followed them up with the military force. he keeps vowing to use them. this trip will test that rhetoric. >> the white house has not ruled out a meeting with vladimir
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putin on this trip. the president said it may happen. given everything going on, do you think that's a good idea? >> they will both attend the summit and i imagine they will have an opportunity to have an encounter. formal in terms of a meeting. they sit together during a dinner and wait ask see. he will see a wide range of how will he deal with the allies? those leaders we need and for which we have key security alliances. how will we deal with an equal coming off political success in his own country. how will he deal with antagon t antagonists like vladimir putin. this is the opportunity to be very presidential and as matt was saying earlier, over all of this, what is kim jong un going to do while the president is in asia for 12 days. chances are he might do
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something to draw attention back to himself? >> the president was asked about filling positions in the state department. here's how he responded. >> we don't need all the people. i'm a business person. you don't need to fill slots, don't fill them. we have people i'm not happy with. >> you are not getting -- >> the that matters is me. i'm the only that matters. when it comes to it, that's what the policy is going to be. you have seen it strongly. >> you heard him. i'm the only one that matters. what kind of message does that send in a major international trip? >> i don't think it's good to under cut your team. this is a pattern throughout the administration. having doip lo mats on the ground is important. we don't have an ambassador and someone who can go to president moon and prepare for the visit. that's worrisome. >> thank you, appreciate it and
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especially ivanka and melania. >> my family has been treated unfairly. ivanka has been treated unfairly. melania is powering through it. she has been incredible. people love ivanka and people love melania. they go through it. i do think the family has been treated a little bit unfairly. >> one member of his family he almost never talks about is his late mother, mary. why is that? he wrote the article, the mystery of mary trump. so good to have you on. fascinating, michael. that was president trump on fox. speaking about the two most important women in his life, his wife melania and daughter ivanka. you have a fascinating piece about president trump's mother. why do you hear so little about her? >> i have been researching and
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reading about and respecting about donald trump for going on 2.5 years and haven't we all. one constant is the relative absence of his mother in not only stories about her, but stories he seles himself about his own up bringing and own life. it got me curious. why do we see this absence and the story? they spent time in the trump household and talked to close business associates throughout the rest of his and talked to psychologist, crists and family therapists to get a sense of what we might be able to learn about this relative scarcity and how he talked about his life.
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>> trump's mother who died in 2000 had been fadeing for view for many years before her son on inauguration day. to discount her in the creation of the trump persona is to disregard decades of study about family dynamics. trump may not agree, but your mother helps make you who you are. you did research into mary trump, what influence does he have on her? >> you are obviously the result of both your parents to some extend for better or for worse. the emphasis is on both those parents. president trump talked a lot about his father and the influence that his father had on him. his mother doesn't talk about it at all. what you get from your mother
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something thaw don't necessarily get from your father. the ability to empathize. these are things we haven't seen. the existence and in the first 10 or so months of his presidency. they were careful in the story. if they clinically diagnosed him, they can sdrve the behaviors and draw conclusions about why he might be behaving this way. >> sorry he simply not close to his mother or was she not influential or a hands off
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mother? why? >> what i learned from talking specifically and in particular to the boys who were friends of his and friends of his brothers she was a nice and friendly woman and detached from the regular interactions they experienced there. she would not be as involved as fred trump, his father.
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this meshes with the ongoing absence of mary trump and what is the significance of using his mother's bible in the inauguration. >> one of the things he got is she was the driver of his attendance and sunday school classes at first in jamaica and queens. she wanted him to be active in the church. the first presbyterian church. something experience to what she experienced in her upbringing
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where she was very religiously oriented and sternly religious. upbringing and upbringing marked by she and several sisters came over to new york. this was the better option for mary trump than saying in the northwest corner of scotland. >> i want to talk more about the complicated dynamics of the trump family and how this can be influencing his presidency.
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the president's mother mary, a woman the public knows very little about. a new article goes indepth with her and the role she played in the president's life. linda blair, the author of the trumps and a president.
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cnn contributor, the author of the truth about trump. fascinating. good to have all of you on. you wrote a book about the trumps. you interviewed her and what did you learn about her relationship with her son? >> i talked to her when she was at the new york military act when donald was being given an award as an outstanding alumnus. she was obviously very proud of him. she told me a lot of kids would have been home sick going away to a school like this. not donald. robert would have been miserable. donald, this was the place for him. she seemed to have a good sense to him. she was very tuned in. >> she was not there. they were not very close? >> she is not somebody who comes up when she talks about his life. it's always his dad. like he is a y chromosome guy.
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he was all about dad. his sister said the girls in the family, she and her sister, no way they would get to take over the business. they were not in the running. that was not possible. >> she lived a hard life. mary trump did. in the washing machines and the
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driers. she really enjoyed her wealth. i think she was a very narcissistic in a way that donald is as well. she liked being the center of attention. the president has talked about that himself. you know, everybody often focuses on the mother and when they talk about what's going on with their offspring. mothers come in for an awful hard time sometimes. we all would have distanced ourselves. that's from the military act.
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why do the parents send him there and what picture emerges from that? he was 13 when he went to the academy. he left behind his life in jamaica. really having talked to a wide variety of classmates. some of them told me that he brought up his father here and there. never ever brought up his mother. this was a stern place he was shipped off to and quite formative years. she was more out of the picture. by the time he was 13 and there after. >> and michael's article,
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friends of donald trump. why are you runoffing? his dad was engaged and he was a trustee and gave a lot of money to the trustee and said do something about this kid. what he did was send him off. he was the classic bad boy as a youngster. got what his father thought he needed. >> when i was writing my book, he died and you may not r not
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see that, but to various moral maxims and the 10 commandments said they are all in there. the president was asked about his secretary of state. i want you to listen to this. >> one that matters is me. i'm the only one that matters. when it comes to it, that's what the policy is going to be. >> many people have talked about how self absorbed the president is and even narcissistic. anything that you learned about trump help explain that?
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>> he is telling the truth. this is what he said. only i can fix it. we heard a lot of his advocates on cnn in particular. there was an ambition and asserting the sense of it's all about me. he is not quite in control we
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teenager and openly talking about violence. he was turned in by his own officers. >> the conduct alleged is shocking. it's a shocking breech of the duty. >> new jersey's acting attorney could barely contain his anger. >> one of the most disturbing and disgusting events i have seen in over 20 years in law enforcement. >> his anger directed at this man. in the township's former police chief. he recently retired faces federal hate crime charges. >> he is harbored in intense senseless irrational and bigoted view towards african-americans. >> a criminal complaint details the allegations centering on an incident in september of last year. the police arrest two cav an american teenagers for failing to pay the hotel bill and
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assaults the male teenager when he slammed his head into a door jam causing bodily injury. it makes a loud thud has it hides the door jamb. i could shoot one of these [ bleep ] and that pitch lady, she almost got it. >> on that day he came into contact with a prisoner. that prisoner was in custody. that prisoner was restrained. they were handcuff and not an immediate threat to anybody. >> it further alleges they have of making racist comments. they heart them say these [ bleep ] are like isis. they have no value. they should line them up and mow them down. i would like to be on the firing squad. i could do it. he is accused of using police dogs to intimidate african-americans. so fed up with his behavior
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alerted the fbi. they repeatedly used racial slurs. >> the overwhelming majority in the state of new jersey. those we choose to use the authority to discriminate against individuals will be treated as criminals. >> the people most disgusted about it. someone sworn to protect all races his attorney did not
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return our calls. the man responsible facing a maximum of 20 years in prison if convicted. >> jason carroll joins me now. do you have inn indication with others? >> concern for a lot of those folks, investigators were asked about that in a press conference. the kearn feels as though their investigation led them to a point where they believe it does not extend beyond him. is the political climate at least partly to blame.
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>> a former new jersey police chief for assaulting a black teen accused of making racist remarks towards african-americans. let's discuss the analyst with
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the former president of the national organization. a retired maryland state police major. good evening. to you first. we heard the story about the former police department. the description of his behavior is horrific. whool what's your reaction to it. quite alarming. here's the chief of police with this type of behavior. here are my concerns. this guy has been a member of the police department for a long time as chief. what has he been doing for the couple of decades he has been in this township. they need to go back and interview everybody that at least every person of color that he arrested. they need to look at all of the cases. they need to find out whether or not these cases were appropriate. whether the arrests were appropriate.
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that's whyy where i would begin. i want to say this. the officer that came forward under these conditions and we know what the police and culture is all about and how difficult it is. they spent an entire career with no one speaking up about his action? >> that's the bigger question. that's my concern to don. you are talking about a police chief. you are talking about the chief executive of law enforce in in that small town who have to interact with all kinds of people in the community. it's a slightly diverse community as well. how did he raise through of ranks. that type of behavior and attitude is not demonstrated once. the bigger question for me, who
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hired him. how did he become a police officer. who put him in that position as a chief? people in that community quite frankly should be asking that of the elected officials. how did he even get in that position. it's despicable. and to many of us across this country who are chiefs, it's just a behavior and and mark, to cedric's point here, he is now retired. how long has this been going on here and who knew? >> well, we know now and we'll find out as the investigation continues that this is not one of five or ten isolated events. this guy has been who we now know him to be his entire career, his entire life. he's been a racist. the way that he's treated the african-american community has been disgusting. and without making light of it, this guy is the harvey weinstein of law enforcement.
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and i'm telling you, i think law enforcement needs to take this guy as the example and say this is the type person who when we find him in our ranks, the thin blue line goes away, everything goes away, because if we don't get rid of this type of cop, we will never to the point where the healing can even begin. and the wounds are just going to get deeper. >> neal, he has been accused of, racist comments and behavior including slamming an african-american teen's head into a metal doorjamb. saying black people are like isis and he'd like to be on the firing squad. why would a police chief feel emboldened enough to behave like that. >> because he's never been held accountable. not only has he not obviously been held accountable, but we don't see a lot of accountability across this country when it comes to our police officers and the things that they do that are inappropriate and sometimes even against the law. we've got to start holding people accountable. >> and there have been two other
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recent inappropriate incidents. the university of nevada, reasono police officer wore a halloween costume mocking colin kaepernick. many felt it was racist. anti-indian were sent to homes in he had son new jersey proclaiming make america great again. is this the type of -- this is the type of discourse that we hear across the country. we've heard it from the campaign. sometimes we hear it from the white house and beyond. is this fanning the flames here. >> absolutely it's fanning the flames and it's unfortunate because there seems to be an attitude out there that's becoming more and more emboldened and certainly we hear where we know where we're hearing some of these dog whistle messages coming from. but i think that aside, we as americans have to decide that we're going to have to be a lot more sensitive, particularly now in the climate that we're in, and we need to be conscious of
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what we say. we need to be very sensitive to each other, ask we have to remember that we're all americans trying to live our lives in a democratic way every day. but we cannot allow ourselves to, don, to be offensive and just make statements and act out in gestures that we know are going to be offensive. >> mark, why are you shaking your head. >> that's just not helpful. >> well, because i really try to. we have to deal with some harsh realities that we have become a more polarized country in the past year than i've ever seen before or that i've ever read about. >> right. >> we now have a situation where the bigots, the racists are so emboldened that we have things like charlottesville and we have situations where outward racist and big on the attacks seem to be happening on a daily basis. so, cedric, i auto gree with what you're saying and we can't
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let this get us down too far, but we also have to with the harsh realities that what we've tried over the past decade or two or three, if it's led us to today and this past year, this form is not working right and we've got to do something new, dichtd, better. >> neal, i'll give you the quick last word. >> well, i'll tell you, listening to this rhetoric coming out of the white house and what we're seeing nationally and this spotlight that's being placed upon race and how people have become more emboldened, like mark says, i kind of think it's a good thing, because it's bringing things into the light. things that are there, things that have been hidden and now it's coming into the light. letting us know that we have to work extremely hard on this issue of race in the country, so i think people are ready to come together and do that. i hope so at least. >> thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. baa baa black sheep, have you any wool? no sir, no sir, some nincompoop stole all my wool sweaters,
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