bog bog call for action. >> people are dying every day. >> teenage anguish and a demand for change after florida's deadly high school shooting. will this tragedy be a wakeup call? will speak with survivors next. plus russians charged. accused of waging information warfare in the 2016 election. >> fictitious american identities, fraudulent bank accounts and false identification documents. >> what's next for the russia probe? we'll speak exclusively with the top democrat on the intelligence committee. and protecting the vote. with new evidence that russia interfered in an american election, what needs to be done

now? >> the russians are going to keep coming at us. >> former director of national intelligence james clapper will be here. hello, i'm dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is in mourning and looking for leadership in washington. president trump is at mar-a-lago facing two national crisis. the murder of 17 people in yet another school shooting and the now clear russian attack on american democracy leading up to and since the 2016 election. in an overnight twitter rant the president made both serious issues about him, saying, very sad that the fbi missed all of the many signals sent out by the florida school shooter. this is not acceptable. they are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the trump campaign. there is no collusion.

get back to the basics and make us all proud. this after a day in which teenage survivors of the parkland massacre captured the country's attention at a rally railing against washington for not doing more to protect them. >> to every politician who is taking donations from the nra, shame on you. >> here with me are a few of those very strong survivors who want to share a new message about their path forward. we just heard from you at that rally, you are now part of a group called never again. do you think that you and your friends are going to finally do what it takes to make a difference on this issue? >> of course. we are quite at that point where we have worked long hard hours to make sure that this goes forward the way that we want it to and stays strong the way that we're staying strong and the way

that the people around us need us to be. that's how we're going to be facing this. we're going to be facing this with trepidation and determination and we have an incredible support system around us and we are going to be the difference. >> and cameron, what is your message to the nation's leaders after what you have been through? >> the reason we are starting march for our lives and doing this on march 24th is we've been hearing a lot that this is not the time to talk about gun control and we can respect that. we've lost people. it's important to mourn. here's the time to talk about gun control, march 24th. my message for the people in office is, you're either with us or against us. we are losing our lives while the adults are playing around and we have received endless support from your generation and we thank everybody for that immensely because we really appreciate it. we don't need you. on march 24th, you are going to

be seeing students in every single major city marching and we have our lives on the line here and at the end of the day that is going to be what's bringing us to victory and to making some sort of right out of this tragedy pt. this is about us begging for our lives. this isn't about the gop or the democrats. this is about us creating a badge of shame for any politicians accepting money from the nra and using us as collateral. >> and david, you just heard your friend there talk about this march, in march next month, what exactly are you hoping will come out of that? >> i hope that the american public takes action. we've sat around for too long being inactive in our political climate and as a result children have died. it's time for us to stand up and take action and hold our elected officials responsible. if our elected officials are not willing to stand up and say i'm

not going to take money from the nra because children are dying they shouldn't be in office and this is the change we need. >> thank you all of you for your bravery and your just amazing ability to have presence of mind and to be able to speak truth to power in a way that a lot of grownups can't do. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. and survivors of the parkland shooting will be joining us again wednesday night for a special cnn town hall. i want to turn now to republican governor of ohio and former presidential candidate john kasich. governor, thank you so much for joining me. you just heard those teenage survivors. how do you explain to these young people that your party is not doing anything about guns? >> well, listen, first of all, these kids are young people are amazing and my hope is with them. they're absolutely right when

they say that politicians have not been responding to any of this. you take a look at the congress and i think the congress is totally dysfunctional. i've never seen anything like it. they can't fix immigration. they have been unable to pass a tax bill so as a result of that we've seen the debt go up. they just can't seem to get anything done except the fact that they all came together and agreed to take money out of our kids piggy banks because now they just go ahead and blow a hole in the deficit. it's dysfunctional and do i think they can do anything on guns, i hope they prove me wrong and can because i have no confidence in them. where we have to effect this i believe is at the local level and in the state house because you can have greater access to politicians who serve in the state legislator, in a county commissioner, in a city council, that's where you need to put the pressure and calls these people out. i've formed a committee out here, a group of people and they

were looking at everything. full background checks including kaz will wal sales. whether we can -- we're going to ask them to up the look at in terms of people having emotional problems being able to buy guns, bump stocks that make weapons fully automatic. i was talking to a friend of mine this morning, if all of a sudden you couldn't buy an ar-15, what would you lose? would you feel as though your second amendment rights would be eroded because you couldn't buy a god darn ar-15. these are the things that have to be looked at and action has to happen. you're never going to fix all of this but common sense gun laws make sense and i'm hopeful that this group that i've assembled on both sides of the issue are going to come together with recommendations, the speaker of our house is anxious to see what will be produce. if they don't produce anything i'll put my own stuff out. >> this should be a battled waged on the state and local

level. when it comes to congress, you were a member of congress. do you think it's dysfunction or inept tud or do you think they're actually scared of the political consequences from important groups like the nra? >> some people just feel strongly about this and if -- i support the second amendment. i don't know anybody that really doesn't but are there limits to it and the fact is what -- >> you're saying the answer is yes? >> well, here's what i'm trying to say -- yes. the answer is. if you're a strong second amendment person, you need to slow down and take a look at reasonable things that can be done to answer these young people and frankly, my hope is in the next generation. think about how bad it is in congress. they condition decide anything. they can't decide that a kid that was brought here at five years of age who's been here for 30 years ought to be able to stay. they can't agree to anything down there. wake up! our country's being hurt because of this. >> you're talking a lot about

congress. they're obviously is a man sitting at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, the president, and historically presidents do take on leadership roles on issues like this. president trump tweeted overnight that it's very sad that the fbi missed signals about the florida shooter because they were spending too much time trying to prove collusion with russia. what's your reaction to that? >> i don't agree with that. i think it's an absurd statement. okay? absurd. the fact of the matter is, the fbi apparently made a terrible mistake and people should be held accountable but we need leadership out of the executive. this is a great opportunity for common sense steps that can be taken. just in the area of background checks. there should be no ability to do a casual sale without somebody having to find out who they're selling the gun to and what is involved. the president should be for that. when it comes to the issue of mental illness, we need to take a look across the country that if somebody's mentally ill it

needs to be reported and if somebody becomes emotional distraught it must be examined by law enforcement and fbi. of course the president can lead on this and should lead on. and mr. president i ask you to do this. you don't have to boil the ocean but take some steps now. this is an opportunity and i believe those who are second amendment advocates realize that common sense, real reforms can happen in this country to answer the cries and the anguish of people all across this country who have lost loved ones. >> governor, i want you to listen to what former republican congressman from florida david jolly said to cnn this week. >> if this is the issue that defines your ideology as a voter, there are two things i would suggest tonight, first, flip the house. flip the house. republicans are not going to do a single thing after the shooting we saw today. >> governor, is that just a

lessen that the dysfunctional congressman that you talk about need to learn? do they just need to lose their majority? >> you know, dana, in life when you have a set of values which are loving our children or somebody else's children, sometimes you have to put yourself at risk. you put yourself at risk that you may not get re-elected. if you can move things forward in the name of peace in our country and you lose an election, we'll give you a badge and a crown. there's nothing -- it's not the end of the world because you lose an election. everybody's got to look inside of themselves and think about their children and grandchildren and look, i'm not calling for some outright ban. i'm talking about small steps that can be taken that can be effective. and congress ought to do it. i just don't -- i don't have any confidence in them. i don't think most americans do. nobody's supporting them any more on both sides. they're both broken.

and we need to come together as a country because it is eroding us as a country. i was in the congress. i never saw anything like what's happening down there. i was talking to attorney general the other day who was the united states senator, i said there's dysfunctional. he just shook his head. i've never seen anything like it. governor, do something. >> thank you so much for your voice this morning. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. they infiltrated your news feed, they literally infiltrated america. the special counsel charging 13 russians with trying to influence the 2016 election. what does this mean for president trump and for the country? i'll ask the top democrat leading the house russia probe next. onase sensimist. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist.

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no control and saying schiff is blaming the obama administration for the russian meddling. that's not exactly right. we spoke to congressman schiff just before he got on a plane to travel back from a munich security conference. >> congressman, i want to start with the breaking news of the indictments, 13 russians, three russian companies were indicted for meddling in the 2016 election. how do you read the indictment? >> well, it's really stunning in its detail and the intelligence community must have made the judgment that putting this information out there and the deterrent impact it would have is worth the risk to sources and methods because this really sets out in quite excruciating detail just how elaborate this russian effort was, who the characters were that were involved in it, what lengths theywenttoto influence our election, how much they wanted to cynically sew discord in the united states and it ought to put to rest for

anyone including the president who continues to call this a witch hunt the that the evidence is now overwhelming and unequivocal and we need to move to protect ourselves from russian interference in elections that are coming up. >> and i'm sure you saw the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein make clear on friday that the indictment does not allege, quote, any american was knowing -- a knowing participant in this illegal activity. president trump tweeted that his campaign, quote, did nothing wrong, no collusion. congressman, you've seen the intelligence, do you think that this indictment suggests that it's a case closed, no collusion? >> no, of course not but this is a president who claims vindication any time someone sneezes. what this indictment sets out is information about only one element of the russia active measures campaign that involving their use of social media to influence attitudes, to motivate

people to protest, to essentially infiltrate our political system through the cyber sphere. it doesn't contain any of the allegations that are really most known to the public and that is, the russian hacking into the democratic institutions, the russian publishing of stolen information. now on that, the trump campaign and trump himself was very witting of what was going on. indeed the whole country was when on october 7th the intelligence community told the country the russians are behind this, they're behind the hacking and the dumping but nonetheless the campaign continued to use those products of that element of the russian campaign. >> congressman, i have to ask about this indictment because it says that russia interference has been going on since 2014. that was half way through the president's second term, president obama's second term. do you believe that president obama and his administration bear some responsibility for not stopping this well before the

2016 presidential election? >> i've said it all along that i thought the obama administration should have done more and indeed when we discovered and we could attribute the conduct to russia, senator feinstein and i took the first steps to make retribution. at that time we couldn't get the obama administration to admit that russia was meddling. they did make an acknowledgement the following month. i don't think that was sufficient. they should have engaged in conversations about sanctions at that time. none of that is an excuse for this president to sit on his hands. it is inexplicable that the president of the united states continues to sit on sanctions that congress passed, that congress wants enforced against russia over this interference. so they can't point the finger back when they're sitting on sanctions that the congress on a very bipartisan basis had said need to be imposed. >> congressman, i want to turn to the tragic shooting in florida this week.

we know now that the fbi failed to act on a tip warning about the shooter just last month. rick scott, the governor of florida, is calling on the fbi director to resign. do you think so too? >> i don't think the director should resign, no, but they're clearly is a serious problem here when you have threat information of that detail and it didn't get triggered in terms of an investigation and action. there are only so many cases where you do have good input where people see something and say something and to not follow-up is inexcusable. there needs to be a full internal investigation by the justice department and that is now ongoing. there should be an investigation into this in congress as well. we can't stop simply by blaming the fbi. we also have to do something about this rather immense threat facing the country from so many weapons of such high power that

are accessible to people with serious mental health problems. >> congressman, as you well know, democrats held control of the presidency, of congress, a super majority in the senate from 2009 to 2010, why didn't democrats make gun control a priority when you had the votes to do so? >> because many of us tried to make a priority and many of us tried to get it done and we weren't successful. this has been a bipartisan challenge. it's been a much bigger challenge in the gop but it's been a challenge in the democratic party as well but i'm firmly of the view if you're not out there and part of the solution you're part of the problem and voters need to turn you out. how much more of this are we going to take? how many more shootings? i can't tell my son any more that he doesn't need to be concerned about this at his school. people all over the country at every school sadly need to be concerned about this and it's time that congress got off its backside and did what the

country has been demanding. stare down the nra and do the right thing and anyone who doesn't of any party ought to fear the wrath of the voters. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you so much for your time this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. and president trump is slamming the fbi for spending too much time on russia and missing warning signs about the parkland shooter. former director of national intelligence james clapper is here to respond. that's next. feel that tingle of a cold sore coming on? only abreva can heal it in as little as two and a half days when used at the first sign. abreva starts to work immediately to block the virus and protect healthy cells. abreva acts on it. so you can too. ♪ ♪ there are two types of people in the world.

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the union. i'm dana bash. president trump is hitting his own national security adviser general h.r. mcmaster for saying that russian election meddling is now incontrovertible.

general mcmaster forgot to say that the results of the 2016 election were not impacted or changed by the russians and that the only collusion was between russia and crooked h, the dnc and the dems. remember the dirty dossier, uran yum speeches, e-mails and the poe tessta company. here we me is a man who led the intelligence community while this russian operation allegedly began james clapper. thank you so much for joining me. let's just start there, the president hitting his own national security adviser tor not agreeing with him and actually agreeing with the grand jury indictment that was put on and press forward with the president's own senior officials at the justice department. your reaction? >> first of all, the art form here in ignoring what else h.r.

mcmaster said and above all this rhetoric here, again ear losing sight of what is it we're going to do about the threats posed by the russians? he never talks about that. the indictment as was the deputy attorney general statement was very precisely and carefully worded, that the indictment itself reflected no collusion in the same way that it acknowledge that the members of the trump campaign were unwitnessing participants in this. it's not to say there weren't. i do think there are other shoes to drop here besides this indictment, which, by the way, does -- did serve to validate with the higher evidentiary bar the intelligence community's assessment that was rendered in january of 2017. >> other shoes to drop -- what, for example? >> not addressed here is potential involvement of the

russian government which we certainly saw through intelligence channels that the russians were government was master minding this. i think another thing that we haven't seen much of is financial entanglements between the trump organization -- before the election and then during it. >> are you confident there are financial entanglements? >> i don't know. we haven't seen much on that and i have to think that the special counsel and his team are looking at that simply by looking at the composition of who's on that team. >> i want to ask about something else the president did on twitter this weekend. he went after the fbi for missing a call on their tip line last month to from a person close to the parkland shooter expressing concern over, quote, the potential of him conducting a school shooting. the information was not reported to the appropriate fbi officials, no further investigation was conducted. the president blamed that on the fbi being too focused on the russia investigation.

he said, very sad that the fbi missed all of the many signals sent out by the florida school shooter. this is not acceptable. they are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the trump campaign. there is no collusion. get back to the basics and make us all proud. fair connection? >> well, no. that's at best i think disingenuous because it's two separate things completely. i do think what this points out, dana, is a bigger issue at least in my mind which is the tremendous stress and pressure that's put on sort of the rest of the safety net and for me this is personal. my son and daughter and their spouses are educators from kindergarten to high school. my daughter is elementary school. she took sandy hook extremely hard. it could have been her building. so we put -- i've seen this with her, the stress and pressure on people like that while we ignore the elfan in the living room

which is guns. i notice there are at least three committees in the congress now who want to investigate the fbi and this mistake and i'm sure everyone in the fbi, every employee from director wray on down is sick about this but it does illustrate i think the tremendous pressure that's put on other things while we ignore the big problem of guns particularly assault rifles. >> sounds like you're not alone in saying that this morning. i want to turn back to russia. the indictment goes into really incredible dedaily about the 2016 election, russian interference, saying that the russia operatives had begun traveling here to begin that in 2014 posing as political activists. you were the director of the national intelligence at that time. what did you know about those operations and why wasn't more done to stop it before it became a problem? >> the first point i'd make is, this is not the first time they've done things like this. we have records of their

attempts to interfere in our election and electoral process going back to the '60s. there's always been this sort of am byient level of soeft or russian activity involvement in attempts to influence our election. when these things start and this is typical trade craft, they start innocently, innocent looking and passive and so when a cell like this starts, it's fairly innocent looking. i personally, no, i wasn't aware of this activity going back to 2014. we certainly became aware of what was going on in '15 and '16, no question about it and i think what was a big revelation to me was the never before have we seen an effort like this mounted by the russians with the multi-dimensional nature of it and its aggressiveness and directness.

this was unprecedented. >> before i let you go, i have to ask about a tweet sent out over the weekend by rob goldman the vice president of facebook, adds retweeted by the president saying he has seen all of the russian ads and that he can say very definitively that swaying the election was not the main goal. true or false? >> it's false as far as i'm concerned because there's no question what the russians were trying to do and whether he acknowledges it or not certainly from the intelligence that were available to us in the last administration as now validated by the depth and detail of this indictment, i don't think there's any question about clearly the russians were trying to effect the election. they had three goals. first was simply to sew discord and discontent in this country and unfortunately we're a good target for that right now and secondly, the hurt hillary clinton which starts with a strong personal animus that putin has for the clintons both

and then, of course, as things evolved to support trump. and they did that well. they'll continue to do it. >> mr. clapper, thank you so much for joining me this morning. appreciate it. and we have heard emotional pleas for help from parents and from children demanding that the president and congress take action on guns. what can we be done and will they listen? my political panel weighs in next. when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums

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if the president wants to come up to me and tell me to my face that it was a terrible tragedy and how it should never have happened and maintain telling us how nothing is going to be done about it, i'm going to happily ask him how much money he received from the national rifle association.

>> and we're back with our panel. i want to start with you as supporter of president trump. in the wake of this tragedy, hearing from teenagers like that, do you think that the president and frankly republicans in congress are going to take notice? >> well, i think everybody in america's taking notice. all of us -- >> take notice and take action. >> i don't know that -- we have a culture thing that we're not discussing. when i grew up it was andy griffith and you never had school shootings and prayer in school. we drove to school with guns in the car. i say we. i would see students that did that. today we're in a different time when -- not the media but the movie industry and rap industry talks about these things that are common now and we have almost desensitized it. now we have to worry about kids eating tide pods instead of discipline. we go after parents who discipline their children. when i was in school, the

principal had a paddle. we have changed the mind set today and so it's scary now that students would even contemplate this type of behavior. we have a cultural shift. >> i know you want to get in but you were the governor of -- >> pro gun state in michigan. >> this is what kills me, is that -- there is a culture of hunting and a culture we have to respect, a gun culture in addition to what you're talking about, right, but that doesn't mean that you can't have reasonable restrictions. >> and nobody's talking about confiscating guns. back to dana's question, do you think there is a moment now for the republicans out of either fear or more ality or compassion to say enough is enough. we are going to do some reasonable restrictions? >> i think it sounds good. i believe in background checks and all the other. there is a bigger problem here. if you look in virginia where one of the biggest school shootings was done with a handgun not an ar-15.

>> okay. there is an awful lot of gun control measures that do have impact and there's been a lot of studies about this. there's no question, for example, in connecticut, when they adopted tough gun control, they saw 40% decline in homicides by guns contrary to that in missouri where they have very laxed standards and they released them, you saw an increase in gun homicides. those are just two anecdotes about a million of what the impact is. >> governor -- >> let me just finish. there's no question that reasonable restrictions work. there's no question that gun owners themselves are in favor of background checks, mental health checks, et cetera. >> absolutely. >> the only question is why does congress not act and it is because of the nra and that's why these kids -- god bless them -- >> let me bring in the other side of the table. amanda, as you answer, i ant you to look at the cover of the most, mr. president, please act.

"the new york post" is a paper owned by robert murdock, somebody the president has respected in terms of what he says, will that have an impact? >> we keep getting trapped in these ideological debates and those arguments are not per sive to the kids in florida or their families or their educators. there's a lot of talk about the nra and conservatives. they should take a moment to reflect on the fact that the right to life was enshrined in our country's founding long before a second amendment. there's a resistance to even having this debate. this false equivalent to total gun control and doing nothing pretty stupid. people are looking for solutions for people to do something. i see no reason why republicans in congress can't go to law enforcement who are screaming for more tools, more solutions and saying, what do you need? why can we not have a task force

that puts together recommendations the state and local governments, why don't we explore the idea of having temporary restraining orders against people who pose dangers to themselves and others as they do in other states. these are things in other -- things we can talk about. >> the very hyper debate going on here and here's what the congressman said. you are such a psychopath to make the death of 17 children about you. america will regret the day you were born. >> i think that tempers are flaerg on each side. >> is that over-the-top? >> yes. that's what happens on social media. all the president's top was over-the-top. that response was over-the-top. this conversation for the most part has been over-the-top. the only people we need to be listening to who are getting to the heart of the message are those kids that you had on

earlier today. the people who really feel the pain. couple of points. the first is that, no we're not going to do anything. the gop is not going to take any action. we knew this was the case after newtown. if nothing happens after newtown, nothing's going to happen now. maybe that's me being jaded. to make these excuses like andre bauer saying you can't pray in school, which you can still do if you choose, there are some very bipartisan initiatives that you can do. we can study gun violencelike the medical health crisis like cdc, we can close the loophole where you have person to person sales and we can ban bump stocks. these are four initiatives that i think that all four of us can agree on right here at the table. >> and 90% of americans including gun owners agree with. >> that's the framework. that's a framework right there to move forward and that's just me -- >> does it really stop the problem?

>> no question. >> the thing that stops somebody from shooting somebody is another person with a gun. >> let me tell you how it stops the problem. universal background check make sure that people who are mentally ill do not get weapons. >> but they're still going to get them. >> the charleston loophole killed one of our friends. the fbi only had three days to conduct a background check, wasn't able to do it so dylan roof went and got a gun and killed people. it will stop violence. >> the assault rifle ban worked. the minute it lit up you saw 83% increase in massacres -- >> look at the cities in america that have the highest gun crime rate and there are cities that have total bans on guns. it's not working. take me to chicago, take me to o-d.c. right here where we are. -- >> you are wrong. nick wrote a whole column like this where he looked

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speaking out as well. a man by the name of al hoffman jr. issued republicans. he said, if he go from orlando to las vegas and now parkland, you just have to know there are others around the country just dreaming about staging another mass murderer. i will not write another check unless they all support a ban on assault weapons. enough is enough. >> yeah. that could be persuasive, but i think that people who want to impact republican members have to be specific about the things they are asking for. a ban on assault weapons is difficult to do when you can purchase things on the internet that make it a more dangerous item. seeing a ban on assault weapons gets very difficult. this is why i think we need to look for smaller, more specific solutions to advance the statehouses and then be a model for congress. there's a false debate we keep getting trapped in, and we can't do one thing because it won't

solve all the problems. i keep hearing, this won't stop this shooter or is that shooter. that should not prevent houses or congress from taking individual steps like increasing ways to make sure background checks are executed. republicans should be enforcing the law, and to do anything that helps enforce existing law should be on the a agenda. >> here's what i think. members of congress who are not acting should be very afraid. this is generation z, and them plus the millennials, plus women, and believe me, there is a 16-point gap between this issue for women. women are in favor of these measures. that should scare the heck out of people in congress who are not taking action. >> let me also point out, one of the things we get caught up in is donald trump in 2020, and the blue wave that oftentimes focuses on the united states congress and senate. the important issues that we're

talking about like gun control are dealt with in statehouses and legislatures. >> because congress isn't doing anything. >> we should have a national debate, however, we're not doing that. my point is we have to make sure we focus on statehouses. >> i agree. >> i want to talk about andre's analogy, but the majority of weapons used in chicago violence are from indiana. where you have tough gun laws in illinois, you get a state that gets "f" for their gun laws. >> we should do it on a national level. >> people who want to do bad things, are going to find a way to do it. >> so we should give up? >> i'm not saying that, but we have a cultural problem. pawnshops and biker bars don't get robbed. you know why? people roid a lot provide a lot resistan resistance. >> so we should do that in

schools? >> you stop it with a -- >> no. >> every time i go by a school for years now, i think about sandy hook. every educator had their flags at half mass, and i picture if i were in a classroom, do i want any teacher armed? i'm not a petite person, and so just arming everything up is not quite the answer. republicans have to find a way to talk to mothers. you are looking at a generation of children who grew up with columbine who are parents themselves. they have to be talked to in a passionate by that's not hiding behind idealogical debates. i beg you. >> i have a cwp, and i don't know who else has one here. we are not trained for active shooting scenarios. people who carry guns are not trained and should not be in schools to do that. it never makes more sense to

tell your child, do you have lunch money, and do you know your active shooter drill? that's not the shooter we live in. there are other things we can do other than militarize our schools. that makes no sense to me. >> even you agreed in the commercial break you think there should be background checks. >> absolutely. >> there should be that. the personal sales. we should be checking those as well. >> absolutely. >> people on the terror watch list shouldn't have access. >> yes, but the whole conversation we missed is this could have been prevented. it was presented to law enforcement, and that conversation has blown over. >> i want to ask you about something that the president tweeted. he said -- talking about democrats. just like they don't want to solve the daca problem, why didn't they pass gun legislation when they had obama in the administration? because they didn't want to, and now they just talk. >> he has a point that at least

at the beginning of the obama administration, you all had a supermajority. you could have done this. >> there were some democrats worried about it. >> taking money from the nra as well. >> i totally agree. this is an issue about gun safety. it is not democrat/republican. i will say at the beginning of the obama administration, they were dealing with the collapse of everything. >> it failed 54-50 because republican fill bust erered. that's only a partial talking point. >> everybody should show up at the march. >> my little girls walking out of school -- >> we'll leave it there. thank you for that very informative discussion. it really was. he helped launch the information age and has pledged to give away half of his vast fortune, so what does bill gates think of president trump? fareed zakaria has that next.

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this is "gps." the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show, the russians did it. 13 russian nationals and 3 russian organizations interfered with america's election. that is what robert mueller's latest indictment says. what does it mean for the president and the larger investigation? we'll explore. then, bill gates. his first career made him the