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a self proclaimed guru claims to have information about russian election meddling that she will reveal if the u.s. grants her asylum. tonight she's speaking out to cnn. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i am wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." breaking news tonight. remarkable twist in the russian investigation. a former trump campaign official publicly defying special counsel robert mueller. in a series of interviews with cnn, sam nunberg vowed to defy a grand jury subpoena saying of mueller, i am quoting now, do you think i would ever talk to that moron? closed quote. he thinks mueller probably has something on trump and that another aide, carter page, may
have clued with russians. nunberg states there were no collusions by the trump campaign. we will talk about breaking news and more with congresswoman jackie speer of the intelligence committee and correspondents and analysts standing by. jessica, sam nunberg is daring robert mueller to arrest him. >> reporter: he is. he flat out told cnn he is not planning to cooperate. nunberg was a short-lived campaign adviser being fired early on, but still took the liberty today to speculate that june 2016 trump tower meeting, but nunberg still insists there was no collusion. tonight, former trump campaign aide sam nunberg says he will refuse to comply with a grand jury subpoena that asks him to turn over documents and e-mails exchanged with several campaign officials, including steve b
bannon and roger stone. >> they want me over at the grand jury. screw that. why do i have to go? why? for what? >> reporter: nunberg did spend more than five hours talking to special counsel investigators in february and says the questions then indicated mueller's team may be moving in on the president. >> the way they asked about his business dealings, the way they asked if you had heard anything, even during while i was fired, it made me suspect they suspect something about him. trump may have well done something during the election with the russians, if they find out if he did that, i don't know. if he did that, you know what, it is inexcusable, if he did that, if he had some deal. we already know michael cohen was trying to do trump tower
moscow. >> reporter: racially charged facebook posts, and roger stone was also fired in august, 2015. in public interviews and tweets, stone claimed to have a relationship with wikileaks and founder julian assange, something both he and wikileaks since denied. stone also exchanged messages with the online entity that claimed responsibility for the dnc hack and was later outed as a front for russian intelligence. >> they think roger clued wiall with julian assange. >> reporter: roger stone issued this statement. i was briefly part of the trump campaign, has been the president's friend and adviser for decades, would expect that mueller's team would at some point ask for documents or e-mails sent or written by me. let me reiterate, i have no knowledge or involvement in russian collusion or any other inappropriate act. he also talked about the trump tower meeting in 2016 where
donald trump jr. met with a russian lawyer. he was promised dirt on hillary clinton but maintains his father never knew about the meeting. the president said the same thing. nunberg disputes that, even though he was fired from the campaign nearly a year before the meeting. >> president trump says he knew nothing about the meeting. do you think that's true? >> no. >> you don't think that's true. >> no. >> reporter: nunberg says he won't cooperate with special counsel and questions the basis of the investigation. >> yes, mueller thinks trump is a manchurian candidate. gloria, we were a joke. everybody was laughing at us. the idea we were colluding with the russians? give me a break. >> reporter: also saying carter page is the real culprit when it comes to collusion. >> carter page was colluding with the russians? >> yes, i believe carter page
was colluding with the russians. >> if that's true, sam, carter page was an adviser to the trump campaign. >> he wasn't really an adviser, jay. do you think he was an adviser? he was a name on a list. >> reporter: carter page did respond in a statement to cnn today, culling -- calling the claims laughable. nunberg did say he spent about 80 hours this weekend starting to gather e-mails and documents requested by special counsel. but of course now has decided not to comply with the subpoena, and wolf, that could lead to contempt of c punishable from j time to finals and anything like that. >> with all of the threats, he could reconsider clearly in the face of going to jail. thanks very much, jessica schneider, for that report. let's get white house reaction to this. chief white house correspondent jim acosta is joining us.
the white house seemed as surprised about nunberg as anyone. >> reporter: they were blien blindsided and were baffled by what cnn was saying. i talked to a number of people that used to work for the trump campaign in 2016. mixed reactions from those folks. one source said how can sam not know anything about this. he was fired by the trump campaign in august of 2015. i talked to a former trump campaign official that said wait a minute, sam nunberg is close with roger stone and as jessica just laid out in that piece, roger stone has been an adviser to donald trump before he was president trump for a long time. but when sarah sanders was asked about it, she gave essentially the canned response, there was no collusion with russia and said sam nunberg did not work for the white house. here's more of what she had to
say. >> as we've said many times before, there was no collusion with the trump campaign. anything further on what his actions are, he hasn't worked at the white house so i certainly can't speak to him or the lack of knowledge that he clearly has. >> reporter: very important question that's now come up for the justice department for the trump administration, that's whether or not it will try to enforce the subpoena with sam nunberg. sarah sanders was asked was it a good idea for sam nunberg to be defying subpoena like this. she didn't really respond to that. but i tried to ask the question at the end of that briefing, will the trump administration enforce wh enforce the subpoena, she did not answer that as she left the briefing room. >> thanks very much, jim acosta at the white house. let's dig deeper with cnn's legal analyst jeffrey toobin and josh campbell. jeffrey, what are the potential consequences of sam nunberg defying the special counsel and
refusing to comply with this grand jury order? >> it is very simple, wolf. a grand jury subpoena is not an invitation to a birthday party which you can accept or reject at your pleasure. it is a legal command and he's got to show up or they can find him in contempt which can be punished by being jailed, by being fined, and that can go on indefinitely. now, i do think that the mueller office does not want to get into a freak show contest with this guy who is somewhat emotionally unstable. they'll try to reach out to his lawyer and say let's dial this back, get him in the grand jury, calm him down. but if he doesn't, and if he doesn't take the fifth, because if he takes the fifth, then he has the right not to testify, but if he simply says it is ridiculous as he said to gloria and to jake, he could be locked up. >> listen, josh, to this clip
from an interview gloria borger had with sam nunberg. >> do you believe the special counsel has something on donald trump? >> i suspect that they suspect something about him. the way they asked about his business dealings, the way, if you had heard anything, even during while i was fired, it just made me suspect. these developments, we were watching for some time, is this a strategy or just something unraveling before our ey is imp the investigations work, having gotten more grand jury subpoenas than i can count, they're important cools. the reason they're used so much, end of the day, any investigation is about information. what information do you have before you that allows you to conduct investigation. as we listen to that clip and
interviews that mr. nunberg did today, one thing that stands out is it is quite possible that some records that are commanded may already be in his p possession. you try to corroborate. if you go to interview, you look to see is this person truthful, it is not a trap but they compare to see is this person being honest. >> sam nunberg also believes that robert mueller may suspect that the president during the campaign was in effect a manchurian candidate. listen to this. >> i am not going in, it is ridiculous. the idea we were the manchurian candidate, gloria, we were a joke. everybody was laughing. the idea that we were colluding with the russians? give me a break. >> is that what you think the special counsel is getting at or sounds to me from some of our other answers, you think he is
looking into the more financial side of donald trump's life. >> he may. i don't know what he's looking into. he may. he may. and you know what? trump may have very well done something during the election with the russians. and pointed out if he did that, i don't know. if he did that, you know what, it is inexcusable. >> jeffrey, what's your reaction to that? >> what's interesting to the extent you can get through the craziness, there were a lot of questions about russia he has been asked, that mueller was obviously focused on what he is supposed to be focused on, were there connections between the trump campaign and russia, and that appears to be most of the questioning that he went through. what happened here is fairly standard. prosecutors rarely put someone in the grand jury right away. they usually have an office
interview first and narrow down subjects they want to talk about in grand jury. that's the interview he talked about with gloria there, the office interview. but it seems that mueller is very concerned about what contacts, if any, there were between the trump campaign and russia. >> he also suggests, you know, josh, that roger stone was his mentor and really doesn't want to talk about the relationship they had, doesn't want to make available all of the information and e-mails and phone conversations that he had. listen to this. >> they think roger callused wi -- colluded with julian assange. he did not. >> why do you think they want you in the grand jury? >> they want me to testify against roger. they want me to say roger was
going around saying he was colluding with julian assange. >> and that did not occur according to you? >> no, it did not. >> this guy is all over the map. one thing that's interesting that stood out as we watched the great unraveling here is that up until this point, mueller's team has been tight. haven't seen the leaks. it has been difficult to determine where his investigation is headed, what he is looking for. this is key today. in an investigation like this, you have three ways to determine the direction and help telegraph where someone is going. number one, court filings. what are they filing with the courts. number two, what are the fbi asking interview witnesses. i think that's what we see here. you get a little insight. third thing, records commanded by the grand jury. it is important to see this unfold before our eyes, gives us insight into where the investigation is ultimately headed. >> in the subpoena sam nunberg received february 27th a few days ago, they said they want
all of the information he has and listed ten individuals. i will quickly read them. carter page, cory lewandowski, donald trump, hope hicks, paul manafort, rick gates, roger stone, bannon. he clearly doesn't want to talk about roger stone and steve bannon. >> you know what, too bad. it is not up to witnesses to decide what they want to talk about and what they don't want to talk about. you know, this is ten people who are obviously centrally involved in this investigation. and prosecutors and fbi agents, their job is to set a wiet net, if he has no contact with steve bannon, so be it. but when you get a grand jury subpoena, you have to answer it. what he keeps saying, they want me. mueller wants me to say x. mueller wants me to say y. mueller wants him to tell the
truth. that's why someone gets a grand jury subpoena. and the idea that sam nunberg gets to decide what he talks about and what questions he answers, i think everyone knows that's just absurd. >> jeff is spot on. i would say one of the most striking things i heard from mr. nunberg today is him saying he has, quote, no interest in providing these records to mr. mueller. jeff can attest, all of the subpoenas i obtained and served, never saw a line that took into consideration the interest of the person being subpoenaed. >> how do you think mueller will respond, you used to work at the fbi. how does a special prosecutor like robert mueller respond to public statements from sam nunberg? >> after he stops shaking his head, i think his team will get to work, continue what they have been doing. as this person continues to talk, they learn more. as we sit here today, and we don't know what will happen friday, whether he ultimately shows orn not, but here or new york, there are salty marshals
googling his address and working up an arrest plan. >> what do you think, jeff? >> i think they'll try to dial it back, call his lawyer, say you know he has no right to do this, you know this is not in his interest. talk to your client. get him in grand jury. we don't want a spectacle. but at the end of the day, you can't defy grand jury subpoena. maybe they'll give him an extra week or a few days, but they're going to arrest him if he doesn't testify. it is simple as that. >> he will have to come to grips with that reality. guys, everybody stick around. a lot more. we are following breaking news, former trump aide says he won't talk to the grand jury, despite robert mueller's subpoena. coming up, i speak with a key member of the house intelligence committee. and self proclaimed sex coach from russia jailed in thailand, offering to share secrets about moscow election meddling. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother.
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nunberg's defying the special counsel, robert mueller? >> i think he's preparing himself to go to jail. i don't think he appreciates the seriousness of this subpoena, and i think that he is basically putting special counsel mueller in the position of having to act because if he basically can snub his nose at the special counsel, then others will find it convenient to do so. you cannot evade a subpoena. >> a fair point. nunberg also says president trump actually knew about that very controversial june 2016 trump tower meeting with russians. listen to this. >> he talked about it the week before and i don't know why he did this. all he had to say was yeah, we met with the russians. the russians offered us something and we thought they had something and that was it.
i don't know why he went around trying to hide. he shouldn't have. >> sam nunberg was actually fired from the trump campaign almost a year earlier in 2015, very early on in the campaign. do you believe he really can be trusted as a witness? >> well, i can't speak to that, but i have always thought that when then candidate trump on winning the indiana primary boasted about how he was going to have a very important speech the following week and provide dirt on hillary clinton, he was in fact mimicking the words in some of the e-mails that kind of generated the trump meeting, trump jr.'s meeting with the russians, so there's more here than meets the eye. i don't know if he's a good source of it, but i'm sure that
the special counsel is following up on all these clues. >> i'm sure he is as well. what does all of this tell you, congresswoman, about where the mueller investigation is heading? >> you know, i think the investigation is heading to where the facts are leading him, and i think the facts are leading him to financial dealings that then trump had as head of the trump organization with russians. we don't know the full aspects of it because we've never seen for one thing his tax return, and i think that's part of the secret of unlocking the relationship that exists between the russians and donald trump who was then the president of the trump organization. there are too many of these deals he did with russian oligarchs and criminals with a past that no one would engage in business with unless you were accustomed to doing it and had kind of flown under the radar
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a stunning display of defiance from former trump campaign associate facing subpoena from robert mueller. he is one of the earliest campaign aides, says he won't turnover e-mails to mueller's team and will refuse to testify in front of the grand jury. let's get more from our experts. jeffrey toobin, i want to play a clip. you were just in moscow working on this story. this is the russian pop star that showed up with trump back in 2013 when trump went over to moscow for miss universe contest. listen to this. >> i was told that that idiot emin had offered to send women up to trump's room, but trump
didn't want it. he doesn't do that. he's too smart for that. >> go ahead and talk about that. >> trump's bodyguard testified to the house intelligence committee that while they were at the ritz-carlton hotel in moscow that someone offered to send prostitutes to trump's room in the ritz-carlton and he declined. i never heard that that was the person that did it. emin, in addition to being a semi pop star, his father is the one that underwrote the pageant in moscow in 2013. i would not necessarily trust much of what nunberg said, but it is true someone apparently did offer to bring prostitutes. in the steele dossier, steele says that two prostitutes were
in his room. that's highly controversial, denied by trump and i did not approve it one way or the other. >> can i say something about emin, don't forget he was also the person that was very involved in setting up the meeting in don jr.'s office in trump tower in which they were promised dirt on hillary clinton. so that family comes in and out of trump's life many times. >> gloria makes an extremely important point here because the person who actually set up the meeting in trump tower in june of 2016 is the pr person named rob goldstone, emin's personal publicist. >> exactly. >> so the line between the 2013 miss universe and collusion exposed in the 2016 meeting is really a direct one. >> and samantha, listen to this.
in this interview that nunberg had with our own jake tapper, he makes this allegation that the president knew about that controversial trump tower meeting a week earlier. the president says he didn't know anything about it, but listen to this. >> he talked about it the week before and i don't know why he did this. all he had to say was yeah, we met with the russians, the russians offered us something and we thought they had something and that was it. i don't know why he went around trying to hide. he shouldn't have. >> sam nunberg had been fired almost a year earlier from the campaign, so sam, how would he even know about this? >> wolf, this feels like a desperate cry for attention frod nunberg to know that president trump has been playing russian roulette, whether going to the
ritz-carlton in moscow, i stayed there, it is a lion's den for russian spies. everybody knows to turn off phones, don't use communication there, everyone in the lobby probably works for the russian government. trump made every mistake when it comes to doing business with russians and meeting with russians. mueller doesn't need nunberg to make that case. maybe nunberg got up on the wrong side of the bed and needed a media hug. he shared information that may or may not be true, and the fact is mueller will have so many other ways of looking at collusion and finding out who was or wasn't at trump tower for that matter. >> david, he was fired a few months after he started working in the campaign in 2015. how reliable is he really? >> right. if you listen to gloria's interview and jake tapper's interview, clearly seems he has an angle or ax to grind. i don't think he has to be reliable to the broad case of what went on with candidate
trump or anybody in his inner circle. special counsel mueller is sort of weaving this intricate, exquisite tapestry of information, and all he needs is a little here or there from all these characters, including nunberg, and that's what he's going to get from him if he ever testifies. >> but i think what nunberg was saying to me is that mueller, he believes, is going after roger stone whom he said to me mueller believes roger stone colluded with julian assange. he is very close to roger stone. called him his mentor. they're good friends. and so i think he believes that's why mueller may be going after him. i would argue that mueller probably already has his e-mails and maybe there's something here after five and a half hours of testimony before fbi investigators, maybe there's something here that mueller wants to pull him before the grand jury for because maybe there's something that they believe he has two stories on.
>> go ahead, jeffrey. >> the point that well, he was fired, he doesn't know anything, that's not necessarily how the trump world works. the president is well known for continuing to consult with people whom he fired. cory lewandowski was fired. he still talks to him with some regularity. roger stone was fired. roger stone has been back in good graces at times. steve bannon for awhile before the michael wolf book was still in touch with the president after he was fired. so that the notion that just because he was fired he doesn't know anything, that's not necessarily true. >> you know sam, i went through this detailed two page grand jury subpoena dated february 27th, 2018, and if you take a look at the specifics, what mueller wants for the period november 1st, 2015 to the president, please provide all
documents related to the following individuals, then names ten individuals. carter page, cory lewandowski, donald trump, hope hicks, heath schiller, paul manafort, rick gates, roger stone, steve bannon. that's almost everyone involved. what does that say to you that he wants, mueller wants all of this specific information from sam nunberg about what he knew about these individuals? >> well, i think it shows that his investigation is proceeding at pace. wolf, when you read that list, the thing strikes me the most, wow, trump really associates with a lot of sketchy people, right? people on that list are known foreign agents, carter page was asking to be recruited by the government of russia and is suspected of being a foreign agent. so when you look at who trump's inner circle is, whether nunberg until he was fired or people on that list, you have toder the p decisions about who his trusted advisers are and frankly who is left in the white house advising him, and what kind of ties they
may have to foreign governments, whether through business deals or foreign contacts or the like. from a national security perspective, i think it is really important we take a step back, say he has poor decision making. mueller is investigating these people. we also know again that mueller is potentially looking at counter intelligence issues related to jared kushner and ivanka which could play into this. >> he also told you, gloria, sam nunberg, that he believes that mueller suspects that donald trump was the manchurian candidate. lot of us remember the movie "the manchurian candidate." what do you make of his behavior, nunberg, making these allegations? >> he said also, he said trump may well have done something during the election with the russians. if he did that, i don't know, if he did that, you know what, it's inexcusable. he said he didn't know, but he is no manchurian candidate which means as you know, bought and paid for by the russians, but i
think nunberg, look, he is not a fan of donald trump. he got fired by donald trump. he is a fan of roger stone. very close to roger stone. and i think he was sort of lashing out here saying i am not going to participate, i gave five and a half hours of interviews to the fbi and they know everything they need to know. obviously the fbi, the special counsel will have something to say about that. there's also a question of whether, i don't know, was he looking at an e-mail, he wouldn't tell me this, was he looking at something incriminating that was in the e-mail? we don't know the answer to that. maybe, maybe the special counsel does because he has the e-mails. >> he wants to have his cake and eat it too. he came out today to say look, i am not a snitch, but at the same time distance himself from president trump. he is trying to play both sides. >> as you point out, jeffrey, he already spent five and a half hours answering questions from mueller's team. >> right. i would hesitate before assuming
there was any grand strategy to what sam nunberg has been doing. i mean, he seemed like to use a technical term, a whack job for most of the day, so i don't know whether to believe what he says, i don't know what his real goals are, but all i know is when you get a grand jury subpoena, you got to show up, and he's not showing up, so he could be in a world of trouble. >> unless he changes his mind between now and friday. let's see if he does. guys, everybody stick around. there's more breaking news we are following. a new twist in the case of hush money paid to a porn star who allegedly had an affair with donald trump. new breaking details. and russian sex coach says she has dirt on the kremlin's efforts to meddle in the 2016 election and is willing to trade that for asylum here in the united states. hey! you know, progressive
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there's new information tonight about the hush money paid by president trump's lawyer to the porn star, stormy daniels. let's go live to sara sidner. what's the latest? >> reporter: if "the wall street journal" sources are correct, this could be the first time we're seeing evidence that donald trump in fact knew about that payment to stormy daniels to keep her quiet. stordaniels, the porn star who allegedly carried on a sexual affair with donald trump ten years before he ran for the
presidency, reportedly almost went public right before the election because a payment she was expecting from trump's lawyer hadn't arrived. that revelation is one of a series of new allegations from "the wall street journal" and "the washington post" suggesting trump's personal lawyer, michael cohen, held back a $130,000 payout because he couldn't get a hold of trump during the last days of the campaign. that's different than what cohen previously said. last month, admitted to paying 130,000 out of his own personal funds to daniels, but in a statement said neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with miss clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment directly or indirectly. stephanie clifford is stormy daniels' real name. he kplanld after the election he was never reimbursed. >> he was not source of the funds if he was mad he was not reimbursed after the election. >> reporter: "the wall street journal" says the bank used to
wire the money flagged it as suspicious and reported it to treasury department. the paper says the money was paid out 12 days before the election, leading to questions about whether it could be considered a campaign contribution. the watchdog group common cause which filed complaint earlier this year with the federal election commission says if the new allegations are true, they're a huge problem for the president. >> there are two important facts in the new "the wall street journal" reporting today on the stormy daniels payment. number one, michael cohen apparently missed his initial deadline to pay stormy daniels her hush money because he couldn't get in touch with donald trump. now, this underscores our allegation in the january complaint that this was all about the election and that mr. trump, now president trump, was involved in all this. >> reporter: as for stormy daniels, she shows up for performances and does interviews, careful to side step any questions concerning trump. but this exchange with erotic photographer and director holly
randall reveals daniels still has a story to tell. >> i haven't lied about anything. i haven't mislead anyone. like there's a common misconception i leaked this, it wasn't me. and hopefully i'll be able to tell my side just for not for any sort of gain other than i want to be able to defend myself. >> reporter: we should be clear, mr. cohen, donald trump's personal attorney, and the white house deny there was any affair between donald trump and stormy daniels. we do know that the bank that this money was transferred from, mr. cohen's bank, they have said no comment. the white house said we're going to refer you to mr. cohen for comment on the new details. mr. cohen called it fake news, and as for stormy daniels, none of her representatives responded to request for comment. >> thank you. sara sidner with the latest on that. a self described russian sex coach who claims to have incriminating information on the
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to trade what she knows for asylum in the united states. >> it's a story that the headline pretty much says ait all. this young woman who described herself as a sex coach offering u.s. investigators information she has about russian meddling in the u.s. election in exchange for her freedom from this thai jail and not be deported back to russia. it's strange story. >> reporter: she described herself as a seductress. this woman claims to have evidence of russian meddling in the u.s. election. the question, is this a desperate ploy to get out of jail or as her friend claims, is
this young woman truly in danger because she knows too much. >> they are in danger. second, they have the information. third, we are afraid of their life. really afraid of their lies. we don't know what's going to happen. >> reporter: for days several russian friends have been held at this jail in the capital of thailand where visitors are not allowed to bring cameras. i came out of this detention center. it was loud and hot and chaotic and talking through the bars she says she witnessed meetings between the russian billionaire and three americans who she refused to name. he claims they discussed plans to effect the u.s. elections but she wouldn't give any further information because she fears
she could be deported back to russia. her claims might not hold much water if it wasn't for this. photos published on her instagram account of russian billionaire. a one time business partner of former president trump campaign manager paul manafort. he's pleaded not guilty to charges related to money laundering and other alleged crimes discovered during the investigation into russian meddling. posts show on board the private yacht meeting russia's deputy prime minister. two powerful russian men overheard in one video discussing russian-u.s. relations. she wrote about the meeting using altered names this this book. a spokesman writing this is clearly an attempt to politicize
the accusations of the thai police. here's where the story gets really weird. last month she was in thailand where a russian sex coach. running a week long sex training course that teaches among other things, tips for dating. on the last day, thai police burst into the hotel arresting them for working without a permit. >> i was there to have a good time. >> and then the police showed up? >> just showed up. >> the days that followed he says he hand delivered this let frer t er from the sex teacher to the u.s. embassy. requesting asylum in exchange for recordings she made of alleged russian government crimes. since she's not a u.s. citizen
this is matter for the thai authorities. supporters deliver food to their friends in jail where offers to help u.s. investigators have gone unheard. the jailed seductress and sex teacher may be deported back to mother russia. wolf, thai authorities accused these group of russians of working without a visa and revoked their visas here. a thai police chief tell us that doing the paper work for the detoratid deportati deportation. a lawyer says this is taking unusually long. usually people are deported within matter of one to two days and it's been more than a week now. >> any way to assess the validity of the evidence she says she has?
>> impossible. she hasn't offered any of that evidence. when i was skeptical about this, the man said we're trying to slow down deportation right now. we could have gone home to russia very quickly and not have to be suffering in this overheated jail. we're trying to wait for the americans to come and talk to us and that hasn't happened to us. >> thanks very much. that's it for me. erin burnett outfront starts right now. good evening. breaking news. defients aant and speaking out, nunberg refusing to come ply with the sue pea thbpoena. he's challenging robert mueller to arrest him. he's going to be my guest onset in just a moment to talk about this. we have the subpoena that