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it's 5:00 eastern, 2:00 in the afternoon out west. you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm dana bash in washington in today for ana cabrera, hundreds of people, including some entire families, right against the border separating the united states and mexico. and making a loud and powerful statement. they want to be let in and they want their voices heard.
[ chanting ] >> if the arrival of that massive migrant caravan that started before easter, people from all over central america and mexico, places like honduras, el salvador and guatemala, as you see there, some of them even climbed the border wall in san diego and sat on it. but insisted they have no intention of crossing the border illegally. layla santiago is on the mexico side of the border. president trump has been firmly against letting people in, he wanted the mexican government to break up the caravan and says
there's no way he's going allow migrants to come into the united states, but today you're with them and they're going to try. >> reporter: they're well aware of president trump's thoughts on this. but it hasn't actually stopped them. right behind me over here, the organizers are actually having a press conference right now, talking to folks about what the plan is in terms of the next step, and then also some of the migrants are actually coming out of this shelter, so they are just within hours, possibly even minutes away from starting their march to the u.s.-mexico border. as you mentioned, they planned to turn themselves in through the port of entry, many of them planning to seek asylum, a completely legal process under u.s. federal law. again, we know they are talking right now to the press, giving statements from the organizers, but as far as the mood here,
dana, there's some excitement, right, because for them, this is a sense of accomplishment, making it this far. i have seen pregnant mothers climbing on a train with their children, only to sit on a mound of scrap metal for hours in the cold, in the night feeling lost because for them, this is about survival, this is about reaching the u.s. after fleeing violence and poverty. so for them this is an accomplishment because they have gotten so closing to the u.s.-mexico border. but there is still quite a bit of anxiety. many of them wondering what will happen when they turn themselves in. many of the women, the mothers and the grandmothers are concerned about being separated from their children. now i have spoken to u.s. immigration officials about this. it they tell me that they will not separate women and children, families in general unless there is a fear that the child is in danger or the child is traveling
without a legal guardian. so i can tell you, i'm sort of overhearing what they're talking about right now, they are saying thank you, they're very grateful to mexico. i have spoken to the federal police, you can actually see them right over here, mexico's federal police here and they are telling me that they will actually be escorting the caravan, to miake sure that everyone arrives safely, something they have actually done throughout the process, as we have traveled with them on busses, when we actually cow calculated the amount of time they have been on there, it adds up to more than 50 hours of bus rides, again, dangerous train rides, walking for days. now, president trump as well as attorney general jeff sessions has said that they plan to send more immigration judges, more u.s. attorneys to adjudicate these cases. but again, it is that uncertainty that is causing many of these migrants, many of these families, women and children,
the anxiety of what is yet to come when they reach the united states of america. dana? >> thank you so much for your continued amazing reporting, putting the critical human face on this story. and president trump, as we have been saying has been tweeting about the migrant ca carav caravan, he's been doing it for weeks and warning about its potential threat to national security. a statement, dhs is now monitoring the caravan and if you have entered the country illegally you will be breaking the law and will be prosecutored accordingly. individuals of the caravan seeking asylum should seek protections in the first safe country they reach and that is obviously mexico. as layla pointed out, saying in a statement they are trying to send as many extra officials
from dhs and doj down to the border to adjudicate the request for asylum as quickly as possible. what are you hearing from people at the white house about people down there another the border? >> reporter: there's no kraig that the president is watching what's happening down there at the border. the president as you noted has long been tweeting about this caravan, he first brought it to national attention after watching a report on cable news and tweeted about this caravan, actually used this last night a speech at washington township in michigan that he would shut down -- he placed the blame squarely on democrats for the broken immigration system. listen to more of what the
president said last night in michigan. >> are you watching that mess that's going on right now with the caravan coming up? are you watching this? an our laws are so weak, they're so pathetic. and let me tell you, we have gotten mexico to work with us on stopping a lot of what's pouring in, but we have the worst laws anywhere in the world. >> reporter: now dana, the president has threatened to shut down the government before, you'll recall that the same day he was set to sign that $1.3 trillion spending bill into law, he threatened to veto it because it didn't have enough in it for border security. so it's unclear how serious the president is to shut down the government in september, however it's something he's made a benchmark of his rhetoric and
something he often uses at rallies like we saw last night to rile up the crowd. we're still rating to see if dhs going to put out another statement other than what we heard today, or if we're going to hear from border patrol. >> of course this is a caravan that happens annually, in part to seek asylum, in part by organizers to seek attention, and the president certainly helped their cause on the attention side of it back around easter because the president announcement it to h announced it to his 50,000 twitter followers. we have democratic congressman eric swalwell, a california congressman, the president is threateninging ing tto shut do government as you just heard if
congress doesn't give more money for border security. at one point, mexican police were seen laughing at what they were seeing. with these images, with this event going on, you and your colleagues, do you think are going to have more trouble beating back the president's demands for funding an impenetrable border wall? >> good afternoon, dana, we should do all we can to work collaboratively, to make sure that we have a humane immigration system, that we protect our border and we create a path to citizenship for those who are already here. but it is so sickening to call this president of the united states to call this a mess. these are mothers clutching on to their babies fleeing violence, they have nowhere else to go. they're just seeking a better day in america. they weren't born with $10 million given to him as
children, like he was. but we have responsible for americans, ecuadorans, hondurans, to all work together to solve this humanitarian crisis, to deal with the drug cartels who are wreaking havoc over there. we need to unite people, not pit people against each other. >> you're a democrat, you have limited ability to change things, many of these asylum seekers, as you mentioned, they tell cnn they're leaving their home countries because of war, poverty, as you mentioned, they're women and children. i think in the immediate future, what's going to happen when and if they apply for asylum. i was looking at an academic
study that from 2011 to 2013, more than 3,000 asylum seekers lost their cases. >> what we should do is address the root causes of why they're coming here, which is lack of economic opportunity in their country, a lack of safety in their countries, a lack of food and clean water, and working with those countries to make sure those opportunities exist. we can't just expect people do not still try to come to our countries. >> what about the humanitarian issue right now this second with these families, again, some pregnant women coming to the border right now, seeking entry, legally into the u.s. >> well, we help that weary traveler, whether they're on the road from jerusalem to jericho, or from mexico to the united states. we have always been a country
that helps the weary traveler, and when we come together and put in place immigration laws that protect the border but also upholds that responsibility or taking care of people and not taking them back to a certain death or certainly violence or impoverished conditions. >> i want to turn to the russia investigation, you were on the house intelligence committee. republicans on that committee have essentially cleared the president of the whole notion of colluding with russia. it earlier today, however, republican trey gowdy, he is on that committee as well as your committee, admitted that the committee will really never know if there was collusion, but he also said that democrats, like you, never offered any evidence that there is in the first place, let's listen to what he said. >> doesn't have it so he can't get me what he doesn't have. adam, before we ever started said he had evidence of collusion and this is exactly what he said, more than
circumstantial, but not direct. let's lay aside the fact that there is no such thing is more than circumstantial but not direct. there's only two kinds of evidence. >> so he's saying adam, meaning adam schiff, is ranking democrat on the intelligence committee. what is your reaction to that? >> i have seen evidence both direct and circumstantial, both classified and unclassified. >> what's the classified example of collusion? >> you have the russians who hacked, stole materials, offered it to the trump family, they moved heaven and earth to make that happen, they said they would love to receive that information, they said can you wait and distribute it closer do the election, and then told russia, if you can hack, hack. once michael flynn came into the
office, and tried to work through a back channel with the russians, there's plenty of evidence and there's a lot more out there, but they wouldn't even allow us to use the subpoena power. before that trump tower meeting, he calls to a block number and then calls back to russia. so we want to know who was that blocked number. we video evidence that trump the father, used a blocked number and there's questions around whether donald trump knew that his son took this meeting. they weren't able to subpoena the records for that. i don't know why, but the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, and that is that they're protecting the president. >> do you have confidence that robert mueller is looking into thing like the blocked call you just mentioned? >> yes, and we should provide the transcripts, because robert mueller who's limited in what he can see and the whole country
can see everything we did unearth. >> eric swalwell, thank you for joining me from your home state of california. and this hour. >> in the case of ivanka, she's done nothing to help women, i guess like father, like daughter. and ex-con can date, meet the former coal executive that has some in the republican party shaking in their boots. and then later, the men and women responsible for educating the future of our country fed up. bill weir explores the reality of being a teacher in america. you're live in the cnn newsroom. hotel, car, and activity... ...all in one place. everything you need to go.
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correspondents dinner last night north to rally his base instead. everyone's talking about that the white house correspondents meeting bombs. many people are talk about the dinner, comedian michelle wolf and her performance. some say she did her job, exactly what she was invited to do. others including some journalists say she crossed theline tathe like, takes shots that were vulgar and cruel. >> trump is not here, in case you haven't noticed, he's not here. i know, i know, i would drag him here myself, but it turns out that the president of the united states is the only [ bleep ] you're not allowed to grab. we have sarah sanders, we're graced with sarah sanders
tonight. i am a little star struck, i loved you in the hand maid's tale. if you haven't seen it, you would love it. there's also ivanka, she was supposed to be an advocate to women, as it turns out, she's about as help to women as an empty box of tampons, she's doing nothing to sachsz womtisf so i guess like father like daughter. >> we go to david gergen who conserved four u.s. presidents, both democrat and republican. david gergen, it's so good to see you this evening. i have to tell you that i was going boaack and forth, most of the time i had my head in my hand, sort of cringing and i sort of felt that way, during and after, this is a little too much. but i have talked to people who have made very valid points,
that this was what she was hired to do, to give a roast, and this is 2018 and comedy and this is not johnny carson and that ilk. so my question for you is this, is it really this particular evening that people are all up in arms about. or is this a symbol of the fact that the relationship between the media and the president has frayed so much that we can't laugh at ourselves, we can't get to the point where even inviting a comedian is a good idea. >> well, listen, i wouldn't blame the comedian, she was hired to give exactly what she does, in nightclubs and as a comedian, the question was of the judgment of the white house correspondents association hiring her knowing this is her stock and trade, she does talk about body parts and the like. and i'm a traditionalist, i have
gone back and forth a little bit, but not that much. the white house corporates association, dana, as you well know, has done wonderful things for journalism over the years, it has really kept the white house more accountable, it's kept the president more accessible. it gives awards to top flight journalists, it does things to help poor, disadvantaged kids to prepare to enter journalism, and there's many other good things it does. but to allow this annual dinner to turn into more and more of a skeptical, i think undermines confidence in the press. my sense is he went way over the line again, last night, and on this dinner, either clean it up or shut it down. >> yeah. i mean you make a really good point. remember when ozzie osborne came in the bush years, it was the first time we had a celebrity there. and then during the obama years,
all of hollywood descended on washington and that was a skeptical. and now the skeptical is trump going to go or not go and it's a clash with the trump administration and the press, and you do lose sight what it is all about in the first place, and that is for these two constitutional adversarial institutions, to take a breath one night, to toast one another, to toast the role that the other has in this important democracy. is there a way to get back to that? >> i certainly hope so, and i think the "new york times" stopped going to this dinner a long time ago and i think the people who run the event are going to have to be responsive and adapt to the distaste that this was. if you're going to hire tasteless comedians, you're going to have a real problem getting the president of the united states to go. i remember several years ago somebody at the dinner and it went all the way back to harry
truman's kind. never in a hundred years would truman have come to a dinner like this, the demeans the office of the presidency. so it guess it depends on how old-fashioned you are. but the president set a trap for the press, he went out to michigan, and he said these people in the press are just out to get me, they're kind of tasteless and lo and behold, the white house correspondents association puts on a speaker who proves he's right in some ways. it's like what are you doing? >> yeah, perhaps, for sure. the press completely fell into the trump trap. yet, the president, while skipping it, as you said west out to michigan, he hosted a rally during the white house correspondents dinner, at one point he touted the unemployment rate among hispanics and said this. >> any hispanics in the room? no, not so many, that's okay.
>> so, david, is it -- it a little bit sort of rich for people, journalists and people who are defending the president to be upset about the comedian, you know, really doing what she was hired to do in the room with journalists and white house officials, while the president is off saying some pretty distasteful things at a rally of his own. >> of course it's hypocritical for the white house to be bombarding the press. but nevertheless, the press has it's own professional role to fill and it has it's own need to rebuild trust in the quality of the press and whether it's nonpartisan or not. and regardless of who's president. so putting on a show like this only increases the distrust and
only lends credence to the arguments coming from the right that the press in general is out to get donald trump and has been from the beginning. i don't think that's true. of most press institutions, i don't think it's true of cnn for example, i don't think it's true for maggie mayhaberman, but on night like this, when he just sets it up, it's clear what's going to happen a train wreck >> margaret tollof who is now chair of the white house correspondents dinner, they do a very good job especially in these times to protect us and give us access. >> they have been terrific on that front and thank goodness for them. >> thank you so much for that david. and we're going to be back in a moment, don't go anywhere.
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so, a day or two, because i own the ms. universe agent. >> reporter: the president is raging at his former fbi boss instay with using trump got it all wrong for his 2015 trip to moscow for the ms. universe pageant. >> sure i stayed in russia overnight. his memo said i left immediately. i never said that. i never said i left immediately. >> reporter: the problem, comey says he met privately with trump twice, and each time he wrote copious notes and each time he said he hadn't stay overnight in russia during the ms. universe trip. >> look, comey is a leaker, and he's a liar. >> reporter: so between the conflicting accounts is there any reason for trump to have apparently changed his story? yes, a flood of facts has now
proved he was in russia overnight at that time. bloomberg obtained flight logs from the private plane trump used landed in russia on a friday evening and headed back home very early sunday morning. social media posts show trump around moscow the day after his arrival and constitutiongressio testimony by one of trump's security guards and by the pageant host, it's clear that the trump spent more than one night in russia. >> it's always significant when someone lies to you, especially about something you're not asking about. it tends to reflect a consciousness of guilt as we say in law enforcement. >> reporter: a consciousness of guilt that could apply to robert mueller. >> what it opens the door to is what the president doesn't want, which is throw your focus on the special counouncil.
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senate republican leaders clinging to their narrow majority are keeping a watchful on a candidate in west virginia that has some baggage. don blankenship served a year in prison for working conditions linked to the deadliest u.s. mine explosion in four decades, he was the head of the mining company at the time.
he reminds us it was just a misdemeanor, but it is one of the reasons that republicans don't want him to win the primary in december, who will take on democrat joe manchin. there's another reason for their reluctance, take a listen. >> there's a reason that the republican members don't want you to be the nominee, because they think joe manchin will beat you easily. >> they don't really believe that, what they believe is i'm going to win and they don't want me to be, i'm an extreme donald trump supporter and we have to make a change and they don't want that change to be made because they're benefiting from it. >> gop political strategist kevin mclaughlin, and kevin was working with the republican
national party in west virginia the last time republicans tried to beat joe manchin, which is why i wanted to bring you on here. >> absolutely. >> let me start with that idea that republican leaders are concerned about, you know, they're saying it's his baggage, that he has a lot of it. it was of course the upper branch mine explosion back in 2010, 29 miners died and he was in charge at the time. so he says, no, no, no, it's not that, it's that i have a lot of ant anti-establishment vies and they're establishment. >> they're convinced he cannot win. and in fact if he were to win this primary that's coming up in a little over a week, they say the race against joe manchin in november is just going to be off the table and it's very unlikely the national party would spend any money in that general election, so you do have the
national party working behind the scenes very much to defeat it. it's kind of like what they did last year against roy moore, when they tried unsuccessfully preventing roy moore from winning the primary but he did end up losing the general election. >> blankenship, we talked about his baggage, but on the plus side for republican voters there, his message is so much like the trump 2016 message and he's been espousing the ideals of, you know, closing in on trade deals, on issues with jobs, on issues with, you know, sort of being more isolationist, for years and years and years when he ran for office and he was just using his run for office. >> he doesn't live in west virginia, he's a convicted felon. >> he's got a house in nevada and his girlfriend lives there.
>> but where i would have the biggest concern if i was involved in elections right now is that he's the number one choice of democrats, democrats have spend $400,000 to make him their nominee, and that tells you a lot. and joe manchin is much more vulnerable given that trump won the state by 24 points. i tried to get him twice, so i have a little bit of stockholm syndrome with this whole thing, at the same time, he's very durable. and apparently he must be very, very vulnerable to jenkins or morrissey. >> he certainly does seem to be vulnerable, probably one of the most, donald trump won by 42 percentage points in west virginia and he's still very popular and joe manchin is the democratic senator. again the similarities between john blankenship and trump, he's unapologetic in his views and has disdain for the republican leader, and has suggested in an
interview, you and i were with him afterwards, the majority leader mitch mcconnell is soft on china because his wife's father, both of them were born in china, has business ties there, listen. >> i have an issue when the father-in-law is, you know, is a wealthy kind of person and there's a lot of connections to some of the brass if you will, in china and we just need for it to be known and there's nothing wrong with the senator recusing himself when he's conflicted like he is in the business world. >> and mcconnell and some people who have been with him for a long time were outraged about that, but do you think in west virginia? >> i don't think it makes a huge difference, i don't know if virginia voters are going to care about that necessarily, if it's not racist, it's racially tinged at the very best. i think his message on trump is probably better, but jenkins and morrissey are trying to get
there too. and elections aren't run in vacuums and as people have gotten expose more to him through paid advertising, he's plummeting. this appears to be going in the wrong direction for blankenship. >> what struck me was we have this whole notion of trump baggage across the country and it's typical for a republican, or any president to lose seats in congress in their first term, and yet you have a place like west virginia, which could determine the balance of power in the u.s. senate where donald trump is very popular, and the candidates on the republican side are running to embrace him. >> there was that debate on monday, you and i were both there, they couldn't stop talking about trump, everyone on stage was just trump, trump, trump, it just shows you how this midterm election, it's going to be all about the president, he's going to be the
defining, driving force, and it's going to be like west virginia where trump won by a lot. you see blankenship and some other republicans doing the same thing. >> there's ten senate races represented by democrats, and there's the same story, and trump is popular in those states and not as much of a weigh down as people thinks he is. >> we'll have an election in november that will determine whether the republican hold is still there in the house and the senate. up next, the stunning reality of being a teacher in america. >> as my oldest is a nanny, she literally makes more money than i do. >> it's no wonder the walkouts are spreading, you're live in the cnn newsroom. >> tech: so you think this chip is nothing to worry about?
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teachers in arizona are expected to return to the picket lines tomorrow. last week they lined the streets for miles demanding lawmakers give them better way and more funding for schools. their walk out was spurred by a series of protests by fellow educators across the nation from west virginia to oklahoma. bill weir has more. >> we started talking about what your outline looks like for your research paper -- >> reporter: during the day cindy morton is an arizona teacher. at then she is a private tutor. on weekends, she's a care taker of emotional disabled kids and four nights a week she turns her
car into a taxi. do those kids have any idea they're driving a lyft after school. >> yeah, they do. >> reporter: one teacher with four jobs is hardly unusual in this state. >> my oldest is a nanny, she makes more money than i do. >> reporter: is that right? >> she works for a great family that pays her very well. >> reporter: how old is she? >> 19. >> reporter: elizabeth millage takes home $320 a week and out of that must outfit her entire classroom. >> i just bought the carpets and the chair and the chair cover. these books are not from the district. those are like my personal books from my own kids, bought books. >> reporter: her tales of byo books and a shot of her tiny pay stub went viral on facebook and have since been followed by hundreds of snapshot of ver min filled classrooms and a globe
with two germanys. but, of course arizona is not alone. the season of revolt started in west virginia where a nine day strike brought a 5% raise and then spread to oklahoma where teachers forced a rare tax hike to fund a $6,000 bump but not enough to provide new chairs. so donna ross improvises with luckets from lowes. >> they sit like that and they're ready to rock 'n roll. that's what i did with my money. >> fund our schools! fund our schools! >> reporter: in kentucky a one day walkout brought stiff resistance from lawmakers and the harshest of guilt trips from the governor. >> how many hundreds of thousands of children today were left home alone. i guarantee you some where in kentucky today a child was sexually assaulted that was left at home because there was nobody there to watch them. >> reporter: the kentucky of governor was forced to apologize for that accusation, some are
trying threats. the arizona superintendent said this week that teachers are breaking the law by walking out and could lose their certificates forever. but since arizona has thousands of unfilled vacancies, most of these folks are ready to call that bluff. arizona governor says he wants to give some teachers 20% raise over three years but the legislature can't agree how to pay for it. >> as a conservative republican, i was actually kind of hopeful but then you start, kind of thinking, wait a second, so everything that has been said from the government actually isn't really true. >> reporter: you don't trust them bottom line? >> correct. >> reporter: but since her pay stub went viral. she's been getting gift cards and donated supplies from strangers around the world. >> bless her heart. with the most important job in the world you shouldn't have to use your own funds for school supplies. hope this helps to fray those expenses, it's from the american
school in london. a sixth grader. my eyes just weld up with tears and that is the most precious thing. why would you not want to provide our kids with the best possible education? we do our best here. i need my leaders, i need my government, to do the same. i need them to bring it every day, every single day, because i do. >> reporter: bill weir, cnn, phoenix. up next, more on our breaking news, a dramatic scene at the u.s./mexico border, migrants from central america gathering along a fence between tijuana and san diego. >> reporter:
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