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hello again, i'm fredricka whitfield in washington, d.c. we start with breaking news. president trump officially on his way to singapore for the historic sit-down with north korean leader kim jong-un. moments ago in canada the g7 leaders and outreach countries gathered for let's call it a class photo, family photo. one notable leader missing, president trump, who left the meetings early for his singapore trip. but then there's this picture capturing a mood, shall we say,
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of the summit, angela merkel's press secretary sent out this photo of the leaders surrounding trump during negotiations or talking there. germany's angela merkel leaning over the table having dialogue. arms crossed there on his end, and among others there, too. here's another angle with the white house director of social media, trump sitting down arms folded, other world leaders mostly standing, kind of towering around him. what does all of this say? my goodness. ryan nobles joining us live right now. well, they say a picture, you know, is worth a thousand words, but it's also dangerous to try to analyze photographs, because we don't know what was being said. >> yeah. that's simply true, fred, but does give us a peek behind the curtain as how contentious the conversations were between the president and foreign leaders, leaders that are among the most important allies of the united states. this picture also gives us a view that was a little different
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from the perception the president gave during his wide ranging impromptu press gaggle before he took off for singapore. mr. trump describes the conversations as very cordial and these leaders understood trade and russia's role in the global conversation, but it is hard to ignore the body language, right, and the way the house has handled this summit. mr. trump arrived late. he showed up at this morning's meeting late, and he took off for singapore long before the summit ended. it certainly doesn't give the impression that everyone is on the same page. still this morning, president trump insisted that he is getting along very well with all his counterparts. >> the level of relationship is a ten. we have a great relationship. angela and e emanuel and justin, i would say the relationship is a ten, and i don't blame them, i blame, as i said, our past leaders, for allowing this to
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happen. there's no reason that this should happen, there's no reason we should have trade deficits with every country in the world. there's no reason for this. it's the fault of the people that preceded me. >> ten out of ten, the president said. and part of president trump's tough talk was based in the promise that it would lead to result, but so far he's leaving this very important meeting in canada without any substantiative changes to these big trade deals and this tariff conversations. nothing has changed as of yet and also the very real threat that the u.s. is on the verge of a trade war with some of its most important and reliable partners in the global community. fred? >> ryan nobles, thanks so much. the president is now turning his focus to his highly anticipated sit-down with kim jong-un in north korea, on his way to singapore where the summit is scheduled to take place on tuesday. let's go to cnn's ivan watson, who joins us live from singapore. what is happening? last-minute security
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preparations? >> well, certainly. singapore have mobilized thousands of security officers here to protect not only president trump, but also the north korean leader, kim jong-un, who will be making, we believe, one of his longest overseas trips since assuming the top position in north korea some six years ago. in that time he's only made two trips to china, and that's in the last couple of months. this will be his kind of biggest overseas trip, and we understand the logistics of that for the north koreans themselves, those have been somewhat complicated. president trump talking about the upcoming meeting again, saying a lot of it will boil down to his kind of gut reaction to meeting the north korean leader for the first time, whether or not that can be a success. he seemed to lower expectations, saying that instead of demanding complete, irreversible, verifiable denuclearization of north korea's nuclear arsenal,
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as has been the position of the trump administration in the past, that at a minimum he would be looking for a dialogue with the north korean leader. take a listen to a little bit more of how he characterized the run-up to this potentially historic meeting. >> i'll be on a mission of peace, and we will carry in really, in my heart, we're going to be carrying the hearts of millions of people, people from all over the world. we have to get denuclearization. we have to get something going. he could take that nation with those great people and truly make it great, so it's a one-time -- it's a one-time shot, and i think it's going to work out. >> fredricka, mike pompeo, the secretary of state, he on friday kind of gave some of his thinking on what the quid pro quo might be, saying north
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korea, in exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons, we still don't know if it's going to do that or offer to do that, that it would want some kind of security guarantees, and he has argued that that must be giving north korea knowledge of economic development, and he suggested that china, japan, south korea, other countries here in the region would want to be a part potentially of economic development in north korea, should it truly hand over its nuclear weapons in exchange for opening up to the rest of the world and potentially getting a lot wealthier than where it stands now, kind of at the bottom of all international prosperity and wealth measurements. fredricka? >> all right, ivan watson, thanks so much. all right, let's talk about this with michelle ckaczynski, natha gonzalez, and joululian salazar.
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the series of photographs really do resinate a lot. what is to be read in that when the president says the relationship is a ten and we see arms folded, don't see a whole lot of smiles. might this punctuate the g7, you know, what did or didn't happen, or might this punctuate the relations between the leaders? >> it's great, because they are essentially the same photo, just taken from two different angles, so, of course, in the one angela merkel's team put out she's in charge and she's schooling donald trump and he has his arms folded. right? isn't that what's happening? the answer is, we have no idea. they could have been talking about lunch. in the one that the white house released, tourump is at the cenr and everyone is gathered around him to see what is so important. those are the photos they choose for obvious reasons. when the president says the relationship is a ten, come on. he's been in twitter wars,
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terrible phone calls, difficult and, quote, shocking conversations. >> there was a lot of tension. >> over the last several weeks. so there's been trouble. you only need to look at his twitter feed to realize that. so we don't know what exactly he's talking about. maybe he means that everybody's friendly and respectful towards him, so he got seemingly very defensive when he's asked about that. his response to a question about the relationships was to attack the press full on and say the relationship was a ten. well, one european diplomat kind of in the same semi joking what are you talking about vein responded to that statement. he must mean there are ten things on which we totally disagree, or like the title of the movie, "ten things i hate about you." it's not about personal relationships here. i'm sure everybody is cordial in these meetings. we have not heard otherwise, but the fact is, there are some real disagreements here that need work. >> and, nathan, you know, might
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a strong message have been sent with the president, his early departure being late for the, you know, gender equality breakfast, and then we see those photographs and then we hear him talk about, you know, relations are good, but then blaming, pointing blame on his predecessors for why trade relations aren't, you know, what he thinks would be optimal. >> i think this whole situation is a good example of sort of the president trump playbook. he wants to dictate his own terms, come and go as he pleases. i thought what michelle said about the photo the white house released, the world surrounding around him, i think it's exactly right, but we have to remember this is the type of situation here in america that hits different people different ways. to democrats, this is appalling. he's not only to them ruining the country, the world, these relationships, but to the president's supporters, if france and canada and the world, europe, is our enemies, then
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they love that. they think the president can do no wrong. the question is, the people in the middle, the independents who are probably uncomfortable with the president's, you know, his demeanor, style, tweets, but of his policies lead the country in the right direction, they might be a little more open to him and the republican party in general. >> and julian, are we now seeing perhaps a shift in what expectations should be as it relates to a g7 summit based on how things did or didn't happen here? >> absolutely. you know, he's lowered the bar in terms of how the president will act in this kind of alliance, even though he says it was a ten, it wasn't. i think we're at the point we just don't have to believe everything he says. i think the words on twitter, the words in the press, indicate that relationships are very volatile, and it's going to take some repair work to get the g7 to where it was. it doesn't go back to a reset very easily. and i think he leaves to north
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korea, to singapore, for the discussions with north korea, with many of our alliances really on edge and afraid as a result not just of this meeting, but everything that came before it. >> and so michelle, how might, you know, the president's demeanor, his behavior, his interaction be a prelude to what should be expected in north korea? >> how things went at the g7? >> was he giving a window into, you know, his approach to north korea? >> these things saying about he will know within the first minute how things are going to go and how serious kim jong-un is, i mean, okay. he said i'll know by touch and feel how things will go. maybe that will happen, but i think what everybody else wants to discover is how prepared are they, what are the exact signals that they are getting from the north koreans. we don't know how it's going to turn out.
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no one does, but the president wants to project that he's not going to settle for a bad deal and he wants to project optimism and still talk about, you know, what north korea has to gain in the hopes that probably kim jong-un is listening and thinking, okay, there's a pep talk. maybe i'll go for this after all. >> and nathan, might this simply be the president holding the cards close? he doesn't want to convey exactly what he's going to be demanding, how he's going to be approaching kim jong-un, you know, being mysterious? >> there could be a master strategy. he could be playing four-dimensional chess. >> critics are -- critics will say he's not being prepared, but perhaps might this be very intentional? >> i remember weeks ago when this was all starting to come together, i believe bolton was on saying the president was preparing, taking in information like no one we've seen before and now we're shifting to he has it under control, he's not preparing, he's going to fly by
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the seat of his pants. ultimately, we have to wait so see what is the results, right? we're going to have a result, assuming the meeting happens. we'll see what comes out of it and judge the meeting based on its merits. >> i think the warning sign has been the lowering of expectations, where, you know, what will be a successful summit will be a commitment, a historic action on the part of north korea. like, that's how we'll know this is serious. and now it's, oh, well at the very least we'll meet, we'll say hi, maybe we'll like each other. you know, that makes me wonder, are they -- it tells me that they are not 100% clear out of what they are going to get out of this and that's fine. if that's the best they can do, i don't think it's necessarily a big win for kim jong-un to have this meeting with president trump, because something good could come out of it, but there are plenty of people who see that as worrying, that kim jong-un will get this big meeting and give nothing. >> julian, he says one shot.
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is it -- you know, one shot for kim jong-un, one shot for president trump. which is it? >> usually, it's not true. most of our summits, most of our diplomatic breakthroughs take several iterations before anything comes out of it. often the first meeting is about the relationship with the leaders and an effort to set some kind of framework. so, it doesn't really have to be a one-shot process, and we also have to remember, president trump says stuff like that all the time, then goes for a second shot and he'll kind of back away from his initial statement, so that's just some of the trumpian bluster and if things work out well, there's ways around that, even if it's not a one-shot solution to this whole problem, which we've been dealing with since 1950. >> might it have been a veiled threat? >> it could be, it could be. >> sure. >> that's part of diplomacy, as well. it's really about what happens in the room.
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>> all right, julian, michelle, thanks to all of you, appreciate it. >> thank you. all right, coming up, blaming obama and other predecessors. he did say plural. president trump is pointing the finger at his predecessors over the russian invasion and annexation of crimea, this as he doubles down on his call for russia to rejoin the g7. that's next. whoever came up with the term "small business," never owned a business. there's nothing small about it. are your hours small? what about your reputation, is that small? when you own your own thing, it's huge. your partnerships, even bigger. with dell small business technology advisors you'll get the one-on-one partnership you need to grow your business. because the only one who decides how big your business can be, is you. the dell vostro 15 laptop, with 7th gen intel® core™ processors.
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that was during his administration, and he was the one that let russia go and spend a lot of money on crimea, because they spent a lot on rebuilding it. but crimea was during the obama administration and, you know, obama can say all he wants, but he allowed russia to take crimea. i may have had a much different attitude, but you really have to ask that question to president obama. you know, why did he do that? >> joining me right now, cnn contributor and former cnn moscow bureau chief jill dougherty and analyst and online contributor to "the new yorker," david rohde. jill, you first, before the president went to canada, he said russia should be welcomed back into the g8 and then today, you know, he's blaming his predecessor for having kicked out russia. so how does this impact the
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relations between the u.s. and the other g7 allies? >> well, it certainly creates real problems between the united states and its allies, because after all, you know, the allies and the united states have sanctions precisely because of the annexation of crimea. and also because of the intervention and the invasion of ukraine by russia. you know, i think you back up and you say, okay, what really is going on here? i think president trump looks at this in very transactional terms, you know, crimea, okay, they got it, he can blame obama, but essentially, you know, it's theirs, so what do you do about it? it is not based on, let's say, the principles, you know, rules-based international order as he's talking about, and the rules-based international order says you don't take parts of other countries.
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that's the principle. remember, donald trump is the disruptor, so ideas like that, like principles, are not the primary thing, it's right now transactional, what do you do, i want russia back in the g8. i tell you, i was looking, fred, at the russian media, and they are, as you can imagine, very happy about this. in fact, one headline said, you know, russia has been kind of isolated from the international community and vladimir putin may not be at the g7 physically, but he is there in the, let's see, the guise of the tweets by donald trump. so russia feels that they are getting back on the world stage in this guise, you know, in the g7, g8, whatever, thanks to donald trump. >> so, david, you know, what is to be made of all of this? i mean, for a moment the president even said, you know,
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something happened. as if he didn't really know about the invasion of crimea, and then he pointed the blame at his predecessor president obama. so, is it not quite knowing history, or is there something intentional about how he might leverage that kind of language or his point of view? >> i don't understand it. i'll be honest with you, i want to be fair to the president, you know, since he was a candidate, since he won the election, he has embraced russia with warm arms. this doesn't make sense politically. his campaign is under investigation for colluding with russia, so this is a slap in the face to our allies. there is no proof as far as i know of collusion with russia, but this just makes no sense, and it also makes no sense politically. russia intervened in the u.s. election to help donald trump win the presidency according to every u.s. intelligence agency.
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he's now welcoming russia back in the g8. maybe there was no collusion, it just -- he's raising all these conspiracy theories again by doing this, and p i just, frankly, don't understand it. >> it is baffling, but jill, you know, might there be some kind of potential long view here? the president might see on the eve of his summit scheduled for tuesday with north korea that by complimenting russia in some kind of way that perhaps russia might in some way be influential on the potential outcome of north korea? >> you know, that's interesting, because in a way you could be right, you know, complimenting. but i'll tell you, the interesting reaction that came from the kremlin, which wasn't reported a lot right after donald trump did say, hey, maybe they are to get back in the g8 or g7, the spokesperson for president putin said, you know what, we are concentrating on
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other formats, other international formats. in other words, thanks, but no thanks. and i thought that was quite significant, because, you know, you might expect them to say, gee, thank you very much, president trump, we, too, agree we ought to be back in the world organizations, but no, they said thanks, but no thanks. so i think the kremlin is realizing that donald trump in this highly transactional period where he is, you know, setting the stage for the meeting with the north korean leader and doing other deals around the world, that they don't want to be, the kremlin doesn't want to be, a pawn in the negotiating strategy the president has. so they are pretty much saying, you know, great, you do what you want, but we have other fish to
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fry. >> sorry -- >> the allies are basically, you know, at each other's throats, and president trump says let's let russia back in the g8. those are huge wins in a p.r. sense for russia. >> and, david, except for italy, you know, responding when the president was on the white house lawn about russia, we haven't heard from the other g7, you know, leaders about, you know, the president's seemingly deference to russia, but in a roundabout way, is that why perhaps angela merkel, germany's office, sent that photograph showing or in some way painting the picture of how tenuous, you know, things are with those leaders, the majority of them standing up, the president, president trump, sitting down arms folded? might that have been a roundabout way of expressing sentiment? >> definitely. look, all politics is local, so
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this is an insult to the europeans, the u.s. pulled out of the paris climate accord, it threw out the iranian deal after europeans begged them to stay in it. angela merkel has to look strong to german voters, you know, leaders in france and the uk have the same pressure, so this bluster, this bullying, backs these european allies into a corner and they have to stand up to trump and it could lead to a trade war. so it's just crazy, your hon kn. the russian economy is the size of italy's economy. it's not as big and important player in the world that donald trump pretends. china is the key player, so, again, i don't understand this embrace of russia. >> and on trade, it was president trump who was blaming predecessors, plural, for that prepi p predicament. all right, appreciate it. coming up next, the legacy
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