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breaking news out of thailand. rescue crews making that dangerous trip back through the cave where eight boys have been stuck for more than two weeks. we're live at the scene. i'm getting close to making a final decision. >> a primetime announcement from the east room as president trump changes the courts for decades to come. secretary of state mike pompeo insisting talk with the u.s. andi north korea are still on track as pyongyang accuses the u.s. of quote gangster like
negotiations. welcome to "early start." i'm dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. it is monday, july 9th. it is 3:00 p.m. in thailand. breaking news. rescue operations have resumed in thailand. divers reentering the underground cave where eight boys and the soccer coach remain stuck for the 17th day. >> four boys evacuated sunday are in good health. rescue teams are running out of time. mission complicated by the forecast of heavy rains. we have ivan watson near the cave with the latest. ivan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, debate covera -- good morning, dave and christine. a second day of rescue operations are under way deep in the mountain behind me in the cave complex there where the soccer team has been trapped for more than two weeks. we don't know how many remaining eight boys and 25-year-old coach that the rescuers are trying to
pull out today. as you mentioned, four were rescued last night and choppered to hospital in the provincial capital to review health risks with the immune levels are down from being in the cave. the rescue operation involves about 90 people. many of them foreign experts and international divers and thai divers. according to the thai authorities, they were able to get the four boys out ahead of schedule quite a bit earlier than expected. four boys out within two and a half hours of each other. kind of staggered. two boys 20 minutes apart. then two hours later, another two boys 20 minutes apart. the families are not being told if their children have been
rescued yet. they're being kept separated from the rescued children. that may be due to sensitivities about not wanting to be seen to be playing favorites. it is a delicate operation. we will keep you posted as we learn more. dave and christine. >> being kept away from the kids over parts of infectious disease. ivan, thank you. >> an under water cave rescue is the most difficult type of rescue diving. joining us is cave diver paul sumnn sumner. when you think about the boys, they are in murky and muddy waters. what are your concerns? >> anxiety and panic more than anything. these boys and their coach have
never done this kind of swimming this type of scuba diving in the past. for a cave diver, we're trained to deal with emergency situations by the time an individual even trains to become a cave diver, you have to have at least 100 hours of scuba diving under your belt before you can even begin to train. to know you have a comfort level and your instructor knows you have a level to be in the conditions and in the murky conditions that are foreign to this entire group and to suddenly put them on to a completely foreign type of breathing equipment and in the dark which they have been for two weeks now. to put them in the water and treacherous conditions that are challenging at best for somebody
that is trained to do this is a very difficult, difficult concern that panic and anxiety. >> and with the kids who many did not know how to swim before this began. there is a sense of relief. four kids have been removed. give us a sense of how big a challenge still lies ahead as we have eight more boys and a coach stuck. now the weather is turning. the rain is picking up. >> yes. i heard the number of personnel being utilized to now with eight boys and one coach remaining. yet, it appears there are four divers that are utilizing the mission. i'm sure they are looking for complications and they can stop as opposed to trying to move all nine people at one time. with the rain concerns coming
up, i'm sure that is weighing heavily on the rescuers and whether or not they have a back-upset of rescuers -- back-up set of rescuers remaining to move through the system today. >> paul, it is remarkable to think of the logistics of this and we should pause for a moment and remember the rescue diver who died trying to set up oxygen tanks for the rescue and ran out of air himself. this is a lot of time to prepare and then painstaking removal of the divers. a lot of folks involved. talk to me about your perception of the logistics here. >> the logistics in the case are unheard of for this type of operation. they're not unheard of in the cave diving world. there are a number of divers
that have explored systems that have never been seen before and particular case in point here in florida in the north florida area, there is an area called wacool springs. a group of divers logistically similar to this have explored some 13 plus miles underground and continue to explore this system do so with the help of a large number of volunteers that spent two and three days doing similar things to what we see here. staging equipment deeper in the cave so those who make the final push as the term that is used in this case those four navy s.e.a.l.s to make the final push to get the next group out, it is similar in operation.
except in the case of what we see here from exploration. they are doing it in perfectly gin clearwater conditions as opposed to -- clear water conditions as opposed to murky conditions. >> paul sumner, thank you. >> we will monitor that situation in thailand. today is the biggest day of the week for the trump administration. the president set to announce his pick for retiring supreme court justice amounthony kenned. he will embark on the trip to europe and a visit with the queen and high stakes sit down with vladimir putin. >> all that is going on and the legal team signaling it is less and less likely mr. trump will grant an inn tear you have in the -- interview in the russia investigation with robert mueller. more now from boris sanchez. >> reporter: dave and christine, president trump setting to make the historic announcement at
9:00 for his nominee to replace anthony kennedy on the supreme court. the back drop of the decision is the news over the weekend that rudy giuliani has laid out very serious demands of the special counsel so that robert mueller could sit down one-on-one with president trump. giuliani is essentially asking the special counsel to provide some evidence to lead to suspicion of wrongdoing on behalf of president trump. giuliani does not believe that robert mueller would comply with some of the demands. he has openly said so suggesting he believes mueller would issue a subpoena to compel the president to testify. something that giuliani says he would challenge in court. here is more from the president's attorney on "state of the union" sunday morning. >> i have no idea what he will do. if he does, we could have the subpoena quashed. to subpoena the president has
never been done discuss fiully. there -- successfully. there is strong criminal process. we have a strong argument they have not made a case for an interview. >> reporter: the developments from the russia investigation come during a busy week for the president. he has the supreme court pick to announce and meet with nato allies and visit the united kingdom and the sit down with vladimir putin next week in finland. dave and christine. >> boris, thank you. the president wrapped up the weekend at the golf course in new jersey on sunday. he said he has not settled on a supreme court pick. he worked the phones all weekend seeking advice. these appear to be the final four. all federal appeals court judges. former kennedy clerk brett kavanaugh. hn hundreds of opinions on religious freedom. amy coney barrett. named by president trump to the seventh circuit.
she named on religion at notre dame. >> and raymond kethledge. said to share the same views as neil gorsuch. and thomas hardiman. he wrote a dissent favoring gun rights in a regulation case. kethledge and hardiman have been top picks. and another who with assembled the list of contenders has concerns. >> i think first of all with regard to raymond kethledge and thomas hardiman, they are less known by conservatives. their records are lighter. it may time time. it is important to have people who are well known and distinguished records. >> cnn will carry the announcement live at 9:00 p.m. >> who do you have? >> i don't know. >> i think the president wants a fight which means amy coney barrett. >> there have been a lot of other judicial appointments down
the justice department and aclu returned to court this afternoon with the government trying to extend the deadline for migrant families at the border. they will not meet the tuesday deadline for reuniting children under five. admitting some do not know where the children are. over the weekend, the aclu received a list of names of 100 children taken from their parents. after meeting with secretary of state mike pompeo, north korea firing up the anti-american rhetoric.
accusing the u.s. of having quote gangster like mind-set during denuclearization talks and describing the negotiations as regrettable. the talks represent progress according to pompeo. the process is still on course. behi lindsey graham doesn't see it that way. >> if i were president trump, i would not let china use north korea to back me off the trade dispute. we have more bullets when it comes to trade. no doubt in any mind the chinese are pulling the north koreans back. >> let's bring in andrew stevens. andrew, what is the reaction from the region? >> reporter: good morning, dave. china has just reacted saying it is groundless to suggest that china is in any way influencing the talks with north korea and the united states. they say their role is always to
be constructive and urge more dialogue with with the key parties. -- dialogue with the key parties here. here in south korea, it is ba c basically reaction is a bit rocky, but still positive at the blue house which is equal to the white house in south korea. they say really because there is a strong relationship with donald trump and kim jong-un, this will happen. denuclearization will happen. foundations are strong they say. they quoted a proverb. if the foundation is strong, it means the building will go high. interestingly, though, given what has happened, you have to say the foundations at this stage, dave, are built on shifting sands. mike pompeo was setting a low bar. he was pamanaging expectations down. he did not hit the lower expectations. he did not get a timeline on denuclearization. he did not get a clear picture
as far as we understand of the nuclear arsenal. he did not meet kim jong-un and he left being called a gangster. you cannot see that as positive light whatsoever. the south koreans say this is all just a preamble. this is a negotiation. we are seeing images at the surface. we don't know what is going on under the water. if the surface is any guide, it is ugly under water. dave. >> no meeting with kim jong-un says a lot. andrew stevens live in seoul. thank you. and mike pompeo says the choice lies with north korea and its people. i'm not sure the people of north korea have any choice in the future for their country. ahead, a mother of 3 dies in england after being exposed to the nerve agent. the latest on the investigation and what it has to do with russia next. my name is jeff sheldon,
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i'm getting close to making a final decision. >> a primetime announcement from the east room as president trump changes the courts for decades to come. secretary of state mike pompeo insisting talks with the u.s. and north korea are still on track as pyongyang accuses the u.s. of quote gangster like negotiations. tense exchange there. >> i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it is monday, july 9th. it is 3:00 p.m. in thailand. breaking news. rescue operations have resumed in thailand. divers reentering the underground cave where eight boys and the soccer coach remain stuck for the 17th day. >> four boys evacuated sunday are in good health. rescue teams are running out of time. mission complicated by the forecast of heavy rains. we have ivan watson near the cave with the latest. ivan, we are on pins and needles
hoping the next leg of the rescue goes well. what can you tell us? >> reporter: it has been under way for four hours now according to the official in charge of the rescue efforts. you have the team of dozens of thooil a thooil a-- thieai and internatil rescue operators who have been looking to get the boys out of there who have been trapped for more than two weeks. they have successfully pulled four boys out on sunday evening after using full face masks so they could breathe and to bring them out and all four boys came within two and a half hours of each other. in fact, the official said they came far ahead of what they had anticipated. he said they are now quarantined in hospital in the provincial
capital. they are asking for a traditional thai dish that i have had for breakfast. they have been asking for food when they get out and reunited with their families. that gives you a sense of what is at the top of their minds for this long ordeal deep inside the mountain. the rescue officials say most of the same team of rescuers are still doing this the second day runs with a few swapped -- second day running with the few swapped out. >> the youngsters are only 11 years old. so frightening of how afraid they must be. a long road to recovery for the youngsters after they get out of hospital. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has more on the problems they may face. >> reporter: dave and christine, the doctors have had a long time to think about and prepare for
what is unfolding now. they have basic concerns for the boys when they come out of the cave. a, b, c, d. air way and breathing. how quickly do the boys or divers if something happens, needs to get to the hospital? we saw one boy being air lifted. maybe a problem with blood pressure or dehydration. that is how the decisions get made. keep in line the timeline. they are using that to predict what the boys need. june 23rd, they go missing. nine days before the food shows up as a result of the rescue divers. what were the conditions in the cave? we know oxygen levels dropped. we know there is a concern of dehydration. that is how you process things from the medical standpoint. if i would guess, most of the boys would not be in hospital
that long. whether it is dehydration or malnutrition, that can be addressed quickly. from the physical standpoint, fast. from the psychological standpoint, we have to wait and see. >> thank you, sanjay. >> let's bring back rescue dive instructor paul sumner. there is a sense of relief because of the four boys have been rescued. what makes this effort so difficult? >> the cave structure itself that they are trying to traverse from the earlier reports was a tighter, more narrow system in certain passage ways. it appears some of the rescue work has been to drill away and chip away at some of the openings to allow the operations
to move more smoothly, if you will, and move these boys through without the complications that a cave diver would be comfortable with here. in this case, boys who have never been on scuba, not so much. >> what would you tell these bo boys? when you have to try to talk them through this and prevent any anxiety or panic. that is what happened. clause troe february oe -- clau and the mud. none of that is natural. >> none at all. i believe the full face mask was a brilliant idea to bring in for these boys. i have a similar mask that they are utilizing. one of the benefits is it puts their entire face in so they are not exposed to the cold water.
one of the added benefits to the full face mask if they have communications built into the masks, which these are capable of doing, the rescue divers and navy s.e.a.l.s working to get these boys out may well have communications to where they have the comforting conversation of somebody that is monitoring their breathing and can talk to them and reduce the stresses and fears as they go along and explain to them while their head is beneath the water and what is going on in murky conditions. >> paul, from what we understand, this rescue started four hours ago. with these kids, from what you understand, are they essentially being pulled or towed through or actively needing to dive out
themselves? >> well, based on previous reports, i can only go under the assumption of what i heard. they are tether ed -- they tet r tethered each individual boy to the lead diver. the second diver, which is essentially a safety diver, is following behind. based on the previous stories that the boys had no swimming capability, it sounds as they are pulling the boys along with the addition of the heavy gauge rope installed in the system over the past several days. it is highly likely that the cave diver, rescue divers that are bringing these boys out, might even be pulling themselves along which can help accelerate the speed with which they traverse this area.
normally a cave diver is doing it under their own propulsion and leg work. now you have someone potentially pulling an individual along behind him and another diver behind that. it may be the rope helping assist with the speed with which they are making it through the system. >> certainly wish them well. we should take a moment to remember the diver who died getting that cave system supplied for the rescue. paul sumner. thank you so much. >> thanks, paul. today marks the start of what could be the biggest week of the trump administration so far. the president set to announce his pick for retiring anthony kennedy in a primetime address from the east room. he will embark on a trip to europe with a nato summit and visit with the queen and sit-down with vladimir putin.
>> all that is going on and the legal team signaling it is less and less likely mr. trump will grant an inn tear you have in the -- interview in the russia investigation with robert mueller. more now from boris sanchez. >> reporter: dave and christine, president trump setting to make the historic announcement at 9:00 for his nominee to replace anthony kennedy on the supreme court. the back drop of the decision is the news over the weekend that rudy giuliani has laid out very serious demands of the special counsel so that robert mueller could sit down one-on-one with president trump. giuliani is essentially asking the special counsel to provide some evidence to lead to suspicion of wrongdoing on behalf of president trump. giuliani does not believe that robert mueller would comply with some of the demands. he has openly said so suggesting he believes mueller would issue a subpoena to compel the president to testify. something that giuliani says he would challenge in court. here is more from the president's attorney on "state of the union" sunday morning. >> i have no idea what he will do.
if he does, we could have the subpoena quashed. to subpoena the president has never been done successfully in the history of this country. there is very, very strong law that the president cannot be subject to criminal process. we have a strong argument they have not made a case for an interview. >> reporter: the developments from the russia investigation come during a busy week for the president. he has the supreme court pick to announce and meet with nato allies and visit the united kingdom and the sit down with vladimir putin next week in finland. dave and christine. >> boris, thank you. sources tell us the president spent the weekend seeking advice for the supreme court justice pick. he worked the phones all weekend seeking advice. these appear to be the final four. all federal appeals court judges.
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the justice department and the aclu returns to court this afternoon with the government trying to extend the deadline for reuniting migrant families separated at the border. they will not meet the tuesday deadline for reuniting children under five. admitting it does not know where some of the parents are and including 19 who have been deported. over the weekend, the aclu received a list of names of 100 children taken from their parents. after meeting with secretary of state mike pompeo, north korea firing up the anti-american rhetoric. accusing the u.s. of having a gangster-like mind-set. during denuclearization talks and describing the negotiations as regrettable. the talks represent progress according to pompeo. the process is still on course. lindsey graham doesn't see it
that way. the republican senator thinks china is calling the shots. >> if i were president trump, i would not let china use north korea to back me off the trade dispute. we have more bullets when it comes to trade. no doubt in my mind the chinese are pulling the north koreans back. >> let's bring in andrew stevens. andrew, what is the reaction from the apparent setback from the talks? >> reporter: it does look like a setback. they are pointing to the fact it is a strong relationship at the top. a trust between president trump and kim jong-un. that is the most important thing, christine. they say if the foundation is strong, the building will be high. they talked about what happened over weekend. nine hours of negotiations ago to the blue house, the south
korean equal to the white house. mike pompeo meeting the counterpart in north korea. he said this looked like more of a negotiating tactic. we are seeing images on the surface. it does look like both sides were feeling each other out. neither wanted to give anything away at this stage. even having said that, christine, you know, mike pompeo set the bar fairly low for his arrival in pyongyang. it looks very difficult to say he hit those low expectations. he did not get any sort of timeline on the denuclearization. he did not get any understanding as far as we know on the extent of north korea's nuclear weapons and infrastructure. he did not meet with kim jong-un. this underlies the fact that the u.s. and north korea are on different pages when it comes to what is the definition of denuclearization. a very, very basic concept.
very basic area which they have to get some agreement on before moving forward. >> was mike pompeo dissed by the north koreans? he wasn't told where he would be staying and no eitinerary. two long banquets. >> reporter: everything you said which is being reported, christine. it is hard to escape that conclusion given the fact that the state department says there was not a planned meeting with kim jong-un. it certainly didn't happen. he had been twice before to pyongyang. both times met kim jong-un. this is the first time since that big summit on june 12th with kim jong-un and president trump. you would have thought they would have met at that stage. so mike pompeo, it has been said privately and on air that pompeo has quite low expectations of
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u.s. and north korea are still on track as pyongyang accuses the u.s. of quote gangster like negotiations. rescue crews are making way back to the cave where the boys have been stuck for more than two weeks. we are told the rescue crews are under way. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. 5:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. in thailand where the rescue operations have started again. more on that in a minute. today is the start of what could be the biggest week for the trump administration so far. the president set to announce his pick for retiring anthony kennedy in the primetime address tonight from the east room. he will embark on a trip to europe with a nato summit and visit with the queen and high stakes sit-down with vladimir putin. >> while that is going on, the legal team is