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street? people arie looking at their cel phones while driving. >> there is a price you pay with respect to that accessibility. that is it's always there, always available. you never really unplug. >> with all these new technologies, we become a society of instant gratification. >> i want to download this movie now. i want this song now. i want to read the news now. >> instant gratification has changed our social etiquette too. we now unfriend people. we follow people. we write on their wall. in the '90s, that was considered graffiti. >> all right. don't miss the next episode of "the 2000s." that's tonight, 9:00 here on cnn. all right. hello again, everyone. thanks for joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. officials are warning of explosive, dangerous fire behavior today as wildfires rage in california. this as we're learning that 12 people are missing and 5 others
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are dead as a result of that massive fire near redding. among those killed, a woman and her two great-grandchildren who perished when flames engulfed the woman's home. a firefighter and a bulldoze operator have also been killed. the blaze has burned nearly 90,000 acres and is just 5% contained. cnn's dan simon joins us now from redding. dan, what are firefighters up against right now? >> reporter: well, hi, fred. the conditions remain absolutely brutal out here. it's very, very hot today, about 105 degrees. i want to show you something behind me. you can see these firefighters behind. they're putting out hot spots because of the potential for more winds tonight. they're concerned you might have some flying debris that could catch other homes in this subdivision on fire. this is the lake redland estates subdivision, which absolutely got decimated by this fire. so that just tells you about the ongoing concern that crews have out here, that there could be
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more fires, even in a neighborhood where the fire has already passed through. so the red flag warning remains in effect at least until tomorrow morning. the bottom line here, fred, is really there's no end in sight with these conditions. a lot of ways, this region feels like it's paralyzed with so many people, thousands of people under this evacuation order. you can't get a hotel room in the area. a lot of the evacuation centers are at maximum capacity as well. so folks obviously want things to end, but really, what crews are saying is that with these conditions, they just don't know when they'll be able to get this fire under control. >> and then dan, you have crews behind you there trying to douse these hot spots or potential hot spots, but in general, what are the kind of resources that these firefighters need to try to contain more and to keep themselves safe? >> reporter: well, there's really only so much they can do. at this point, this fire is 5% contained. a lot of this just depends on
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the weather, particularly the wind. there are a number of firefighters out here. i mean, 3500 have been assigned to it. of course, you have a lot of aircraft that are dousing the flames when they see them erupt. really, it just comes down to mother nature and the weather cooperating. obviously they're trying to do the best they can to put out hot spots when they see them, to put out the flames. you have the hot shot crews trying to build containment lines, but the bottom line is these conditions remain fierce because we're talking about, you know, bone dry conditions and heat. so no matter how many firefighters you throw at this thing, the challenges remain. >> and then dan, this car fire is just one of several wildfire there is in that state. what are the distinctions? are they all kind of morphing together? or are they still staying relatively separate? >> the fires are separate. you're right. there are a number of fires burning in california and across
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the west coast. really, it's up to the regional crews, regional management crews to determine how many firefighters they want to throw at any particular fire. this is really the worst one in the state as a matter of fact, this fire already ranks among the top 20 destructive fires in california history. so this is already a historic wildfire with more than 500 structures burned. once again, who knows how long this is going to go on for. >> all right. dan simon, thank you so much. so at least three police officers have lost their homes in that fire near redding. one of them is redding's police chief, roger moore, who is joining me right now on the phone. so chief moore, how are you and your family holding up knowing that you have lost your home? >> thank you. you know, we're doing good. we're doing better than many. we have over 517 homes that were lost. many people are displaced here
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in the city of redding. as far as my family and i, we are safe. property can be replaced. i know it displaces us a little bit, but with the loss of the two firefighters and our citizens, it pales in comparison. >> so chief, what were the moments like before losing your home? were you at the house? did you have to evacuate? what were the circumstances? >> yeah, so the fire made an incredible run from the national park area on wednesday, almost touching our city. so thursday we were getting ready for evacuations. the winds kicked up like we had spoken about. and these gail force winds created these fire tornadoes. so i was actually sitting in my subdivision monitoring it. i had gotten my family out. i watched it go completely north through the lake redding subdivision, which my father's home also was burned, up to my neighborhood and then take out
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many, many neighborhoods that evening. that was the worst of it as far as the city goes. this fire is unpredictable. it's going in many, many different directions. it's very hard to predict. >> and thank good thaness that family members and you are okay. talk to me about what this is like now. you know, you usually respond, and you're continuing to respond to emergencies, but now you are, you know, straddling both those worlds now that you all have been victimized like this. describe for me, if you can, what this feels like for you. >> well, of course we signed up to continue working through disasters. my family has good support here. i will continue to remain on duty with my personnel. i can tell you that it's been overwhelming support from oes and cal fire, national guard, all the highway patrolmen, all our law enforcement officers,
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and all of our volunteers. our city is really coming together to give food, stand-up shelters. we carry on, and we'll get through this. the fire right now is still moving west and south. so they're trying to get a containment line on that. but it is a giant fire. it's going to require a lot of resources because of the winds. >> well, we wish you and your family the best. of course, also counting the blessings that you are all very safe. redding, california, police chief roger moore. thank you so much. all right. let's talk more about this explosive, dangerous fire behavior expected today in california. joining me right now, cnn meteorologist tom sader. talk to me about the condition there is, why people there are feeling like there is no end in sight. >> well, there's no rain in the forecast. the winds are erratic. fredricka, this has been a terrible couple weeks around the globe. last week 80 lives were lost in greece. for over two weeks, fires have
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been burning in sweden. they don't typically have fires like this. in ontario, there are 29 large fires and 19 are out of control. it's the erratic winds and a lot of this is topography. some of this is the drought. notice where the drought is, southern plains all the way through the desert southwest, as you would typically find. you're starting to see where the ti fires are starting to flame up. we'll concentrate on the three big ones in california. the carr fire doubled in size friday night into saturday morning. a lot of this is because when it massively grows like this, it produces its own wind, its own weather. the winds are just erratic. when you have these slopes, say a 30-degree slope, the fire may travel uphill about 24 miles an hour. but the more severe that degree, say a 40-degree slope, it's almost up to 50 miles per hour. so there are several valleys. all these ranges are producing this wildfire, if you will. the smoke is another issue. starting to see large areas from central and southern oregon and
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most of central california where the air pollution and air quality is so bad. you're starting to see some go into medical treatment to find out what's going on with the eyes burning and the throats. let's break these down. carr fire, over 89,000 acres scorched. only 5% contained. 3500 firefighters. they've got a squadron of about 17 water dropping helicopters. so they have been able to get a little bit of a buffer on that. the cranston fire, 13,000 acres. that's the one that prompted a rare closure of yosemite national park. of course, ferguson is up to 30% containment. there's a lot going on. the problem is we have nothing in our favor. triple-digit temperatures, the winds are gusty and out of control and erratic. we're in a moderate drought. no rain in the forecast. and think about this. even the fires in oregon, fredricka, seattle's typical high temperature is 78 degrees. they're going to be in the low 90s in the next couple days. wish i had better news. >> our hearts are going out to all the folks there. tom, thank you so much. all right. threats of another u.s.
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government shutdown. president trump making his case to fund the border wall ahead of the september budget deadline. but how will that play out in november's midterm elections? and later, free trade or tariffs? the rest of the world is watching, so why is the white house saying targeted tariffs are now okay? we'll talk about that coming up. how do you win at business? stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. bravo, tall meeting man. start winning today. book now at start winning today. with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. new fixodent ultra-max hold gives you the strongest hold ever to lock your dentures. so now you can eat tough food without worry. fixodent and forget it.
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wall and is already pointing the blame on democrats. this new shutdown threat happening as the government's deadline to reunite separated children with their families has come and gone. more than 700 children still have not been reunited. cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez joins us live from new jersey near where president trump is spending the weekend. so tell us more about trump's border threat. >> reporter: hey there, fred. president trump wants his border wall by any means necessary. here's the tweet this morning that signaled that he was ready to potentially start a government shutdown over this. he writes, quote, i would be willing to shutdown government if the democrats do not give us the votes for border security, which includes the wall. must get rid of lottery, catch and release, et cetera, and finally go to a system of immigration based on merit. fred, we have been here before. last year around september congress had to start passing continuing resolutions all the way to the beginning of 2018 because they couldn't agree on a
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budget. president trump wanting funding for his border wall. i want you to listen to something the president said at that point back then. >> if we don't change the legislation, if we don't get rid of these loopholes where killers are allowed to come into our country and continue to kill, if we don't change it, let's have a shutdown. we'll do a shutdown. >> reporter: déjà vu, fred. i want to point out toanother tweet the president sent out this morning. quote, the congress must work on fixing the dumbest and worst immigration laws anywhere in the world. vote "r." meaning republican. though, not all republicans are on the same page. just this week, we know the president met with the republican leadership, house speaker paul ryan and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. they discussed how appropriations bills were moving forward at a steady clip in a bipartisan fashion. sources close to the republican
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leadership indicate that they were trying to push the idea to the president that a shutdown would not be necessary. sources say the president was receptive to that message. obviously on twitter this morning, though, he is still threatening one, fred. >> all right. boris sanchez, thanks so much. so the court-ordered deadline to reunite children separated from their families at the border is now in the rearview mirror. one out of three children remain separated from their parents with no clear indication when they will be reunited. cnn's kaylee hartu ng joins us now in mcallen, texas. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, fred, in the past couple days, the government has been patting itself on the back, saying they've reunified all families eligible for reunification by that court-ordered deadline. as you mentioned, that still leaves 711 children at the government's last tally who have been separated from their
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families who have not been reunited because they're deemed ineligible for reunification. no two family stories are the same. in the course of covering this story, in the bigger picture, the common threads have been that of confusion, frustration, chaos, and incredible challenges in communication. this story best incapsulated today by the story we're learning of a woman who we'll call alejandro. about a month and a half ago, she and her 6-year-old daughter crossed the border coming here from their home country of honduras, looking to escape gang violence there. they were detained and separated. ten days ago, alejandro was given release paperwork and said that day she would be reunified with her daughter. but today she is still in detention here in texas. her daughter still in new york. she can't get answers as to why they're in this limbo. now, health and human services telling her daughter's attorney a red flag has been raised in the child's case. again, no answers as to what
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that means or how to challenge those red flags. hhs not willing to discuss cases specifically with us, but a spokesperson telling cnn today, quote, parents in i.c.e. custody that have not yet been reunited with their child are a result of concerns over safety on parentage. o.r.r., the office of refugee resettlement, is working with dhs to evaluate if a parent sell jibl for reunification on a case-by-case basis and will continue to put the safety of children first during this process. so as i said, no two families' stories are alike. we're reminded that timing is everything for these families. alejandra says if she would have known she would have been separated from her daughter, she never would have come here in search of a better life. just yesterday i met another mother and daughter. they traveled here for a month from el salvador. they crossed the border four days ago. they were detained, never separated. yesterday i saw them get on a bus heading to indianapolis to meet with family. fred, they're now there awaiting
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their first court date. no two stories are alike here, fred, but the confusion that so many are experiencing, the frustration and the chaos, it continues. >> all right. kaylee, thanks so much. joining me now, lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun times." when news of family separations first broke, there was a lot of outrage on both sides of the aisle. is it the feeling that outrage has subsided, or might this still be a potential ballot box issue come november? >> well, that's a good question, fred, because the answer is mainly on a case-by-case basis. i don't think as long as families are separated it's going to go away as an issue. as we know in this trump white house, every day can bring a whole new tsunami of news. here's why it won't go away. these are very human stories. they are taking place in congressional districts throughout the nation. this is not now just a border
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story. for every house member in a big race, that means this may be part of their campaign, even if it's not on the front pages anymore. so there's a few ways to go about it. look at the human stories your reports just described. those are stories with high political impact. then you go to the competence of the trump white house for carrying out this policy. no matter what you think about the policy, you do have to say that the way this was carried out is poor to bad to unbusinesslike to unseemly, going to this core matter that you separated children from families and you separated them and didn't even have a record of what child was going where in the beginning, making a bad situation worse. all these are they thinks that are political ads that become political messages. no matter how many tweets the president sends out, it will not
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diminish this as a campaign issue in many places. >> so the president via tweet and even at a recent rally, he's focusing on the border walsh. house speaker paul ryan said the president was willing to be patience for that kind of funding. listen. >> we walked the president through our strategy for appropriations before the fiscal year. he agreed with our strategy. so we think we have a unified strategy to make sure that we can get as many appropriation bills done as possible. as far as the wall is concerned, we've gotten some wall funding already under way. that is become funded, bing it's not a question of if, it's a question of when. the president is willing to be patients to make sure we get what we need so we can get that done. >> patience. well, if you look at the tweets from the president this morning, it doesn't necessarily sound like he's being too patient about it all. so where is the disconnect here? >> well, the disconnect is in a few places.
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president trump -- we've been at this juncture before where congress has been willing to put some money in for a wall. trump says i want all the money up front. well, even in the best of times, it's hard to get full project funding in a multiyear project. look at these infrastructure projects. you never get all the money up front. then there's the core issue mexico was supposed to pay for this wall. where is that discussion? this is something that democrats will talk about, even if republicans don't want to. look at the sound bite you just ran from paul ryan. he didn't factor in that we'll appropriate and then what, we're silent on the mexico pledge. but it does show that democrats are willing to put up more money for border security for the wall and other places in order to get compromise on the broader immigration issues. >> all right. lynn sweet, we'll leave it there for now. thank you so much. >> and thank you. all right. the white house's chief economic
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greatest. >> you know, if they're targeted for good purpose, as per china, i think the answer is absolutely yes. that's always been my view. most free traders agree china has not played by the rules, and the trading system is broken, largely because of them. let me say this. the president has adopted a view with which i completely agree. he's a free trader. and he wants to have no tariffs. >> i want to bring in art laffer, economist and adviser to president ronald reagan. also, ben stein, who worked for richard nixon and gerald ford. good to see you both. >> thank you, fred. >> art, you first. the president argues these tariffs are a short-term pain for a long-term gain and that tariffs are the greatest. do you agree? >> no, i don't think tariffs are the greatest, but they may be a good strategic plan for getting china to come to the negotiation
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table. to renegotiate, china has been recalcitrant on this issue. it should be lowering its tariffs. they should be more free trade than they are. they shouldn't steal intellectual property. larry kudlow knows this very, very well. he's one of my best friends. believe me when i tell you, he's arguing the good cause internally. he's just phenomenal. >> ben? >> tariffs are such a complicated issue. it's almost unbelievable. ben smith, the father of economics, said tariffs are a bad thing. but just in recent years, a great, great genius before his death, paul samuelson, said sometimes we do need tariffs. there are countries like china that do require tariffs. if targeted properly against countries like china, i think they can work well. targeting them against countries
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like canada and mexico, very, very grave doubts about that. china is very much an outlier in terms of trade and does need some work. >> and so art, do you see that targeting, you know, china could ultimately bring the best benefits for the u.s.? >> i do. i think it's sort of humorous today. i think it can work with china. i think it can work with the eu. as long as it's done correctly. trump has told me personally
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several occasions that he's a free trader. and this is a tactic for him to get the negotiations to bring those tariffs down. if he does that, it's a miracle. it'll lead to a phenomenal -- >> president trump says he has that $12 billion bailout to farmers and that it's forthcoming. is that just a form of welfare? is it welcome? is it a short-term or a band-aid fix, as i've heard some farmers say? >> i don't know exactly what it is. i think it would depend on what countries are involved. if it's aimed at canada, look, we already have pretty darn good agricultural tariff situation with canada. not perfect by any means but pretty darn good. i don't like the idea of farmers suffering and $12 billion coming from the taxpayers to help the farmers is a very questionable idea to me. but i think we definitely are not being treated fairly in terms of our agricultural exports. if mr. trump can make progress on that, god bless his soul. let's try to handle this in the most low-key possible way. it doesn't do any good to slap
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these people across the face and say we're going to beat you to a pulp until you surrender. i think it would be a lot better if we said to these people, we want to work together with you, especially canada. canada, forgo gosh sakes, is ou best friend in the whole world. >> so art, the economy overall. we heard the president be very excited about this 4.1% growth in the second quarter. do you see this as temporary, or do you see that there's potentially some real movement to the future with this kind of growth? >> it's a lot better having 4.1% for that quarter than it is a much lower number. let me put it that way. temporary and long-lived are very funny concepts. i'm much better at forecasting the past than the future. but let me just say that with the right policies in place under ronald reagan, which had the first two years were disastrous, but in the next 18 months, the u.s. economy under
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reagan, 18 months, we grew at 12% in real terms. an 8% per annual rate. that's a very, very large increase in output. kennedy did the same thing with the same types of policies that trump has. clinton did the same thing. i voted for him twice. he did a great job with good economic policies as well. so am i thinking that this is going to be a longer term solution? yes, i do. but i'm not sure. it can obviously go sideways a t t any time. >> ben, short-term, long-term? >> i think long-term it's going to work out fine. mr. trump is a person who gives the impression of working in the realm of chaos. in the event things get to be fairly orderly. by the way, the kennedy round of tariff cuts were not in action until after kennedy died. so you can't really give kennedy too much credit for that. but i think mr. trump is
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pursuing the right thing. i would like him to do it in a quieter, more diplomatic way. but i'd like for him to do a lot of things in a quieter, more diplomatic way. >> all right. ben stein, art laffer, thanks so much. >> thank you, fred. all right. accusations of decades of abuse and now ohio state university facing tough questions and lawsuits over allegations about a former doctor's alleged sexual assaults on athletes. we'll get the latest on the investigation coming up. ♪ it is such a good time to dance ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to [ laughing ] ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] ♪ [ laughing ] a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. ♪ progressive helps keep you out there. you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel.
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welcome back. a third lawsuit has been filed against ohio state university accusing the school of ignoring sexual misconduct by a team doctor. more than 100 former students have reported firsthand accounts of abuse by dr. richard strous. he died by suicide. edward sutland is editor in chief of "the lantern" at ohio state. good to see you. so what can you tell us about this latest accusation and lawsuit? >> so in the latest lawsuit filed against ohio state basically comes from a number of different plaintiffs. each of the three previous ones have all been class action. this one has been led by someone named steve snyder hill who
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claims that when he was a student at ohio state, he went to a physical with dr. strauss. during the physical, he was abused by strauss. he then went and complained about these accusations. he said there was no action taken after that. now, the lawsuit also cites that ohio state knew as early as 1978 when strauss was first hired that complaints had been made suggesting sexual abuse from the doctor. so in a number of these allegations, it's always claimed that ohio state had knowledge of and had received complaints of the sexual abuse from the doctor. these are ones that go into more specific detail. >> so how is that documented? i mean, how does the university or how is it able to reflect, you know, what its response was at the time and now?
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>> yeah, it's tough to say. one of the biggest issues that ohio state has run into is the fact that a lot of these documents aren't necessarily kept for too long. much of the investigation has been done sort of through witnesses. it's sort of just trying to piece together different things, you know, like ted grace is no longer with the university. they've also talked recently with more than 100 former student-athletes and students who were abused by strauss. so at least for right now, there's not a ton of documentation that they necessarily can comb through, at least that i'm aware of. it's mostly been going through old witnesses and talking to them about it. >> so ohio congressman jim jordan was a wrestling coach during that time of this alleged abuse carried out by dr. strauss. but some of the accusers say jordan knew about the abuse or at least should have known. listen to how he responded in a fox news interview earlier this
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month. >> it's false. i mean, i never saw, never heard of, never was told about any type of abuse. conversations in a locker room are a lot different than people come up talking about abuse. no one ever reported any abuse to me. if they had, i would have dealt with it. what bothers me the most is the guys that are saying this thing, i know they know the truth. i know they do. >> so does that suffice, or is this still a problem? is the school even responding to his tenure there and any correlation or knowledge of this? >> yeah, i mean, with jim jordan, there have been a lot of wrestlers who have come forward and said that during his tenure as an assistant coach there that he knew. there also have been several who have come to his defense and say he did not know about the allegations. you know, it's one of those things that there's not a ton of hard evidence necessarily at the moment to say, at least that i'm aware of, that he for sure know,
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he for sure did not know. what we know now is several people have come forward saying, you know, of course he knew, he was an assistant coach at the time. all the coaches knew. several others have come out saying, you know, well, he did not know. what we do know about the coaching staff of the wrestling team, the head coach did know and he complained several times to the university. specifically, he said that there was -- i believe he called it a cesspool of deviancy at the recreational facility. students would use it. the wrestlers would use it. so he was aware of allegations against strauss of sexual abuse, and he did bring those up to the university, requesting his wrestling team be moved from the hall to some place more private. based on all the documents that i've seen and based on previous lawsuits and what's been said, the university did not do anything about his claims.
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they essentially just kept them in larkin's hall. >> lawsuits ongoing with this newest one being filed. ed suteland, thank you so much. it's a disturbing story all the way around. all right. also very disturbing, babies taken from their parents, put up for adoption without consent. and now some of those taken away as i fannfants are finding thei biological parents decades later. their stories coming up. stop fearing your alarm clock... with new*! zzzquil pure zzzs. a drug-free blend of botanicals with melatonin
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silence, babies stolen from their parents during in chile during a dictatorship in the '70s and '80s and sold to adoption a agentt sis in the u.s., but now the babies have grown up, and they are looking for the families that they say never wanted to give them up. rafael romo followed one woman as she went back to meet her biological parents for the first time in this exclusive report. >> reporter: there were no words. just tears of joy. this is the hug that the ho ther wishes she had given her daughter 36 years ago. >> i have been waiting my whole life to find my mother. >> reporter: alycia grew up in the united states with her adoptive parents, and she says they were forth coming about her adoption and the country she came from. >> and the story i was told was
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that my family never meant to the not keep me. >> reporter: but she was partt of the adoptive state. she contacted the chile government to find help to find her biological parents. her biological parents were alive and eager to meet her. her biological mother says she never intended to give her up for adoption. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: cordova says she had a difficult labor and nearly died. during the that time she and her
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husband and other members of the family asked the employees of the state run hospital about her daughter, but they never found her again, and chile was under the military dictatorship, and she and her a family feared that asking too many questions would put them in danger. >> with the politics at the time and adoption not being regulated until years after i was adopted, and even looking at the social worker who processed my adoption, there are a lot of things, elements of it that were just incomplete and inconsistent with what i was told. >> reporter: chilean government officials today say there with so many questionable adoptions back then that the authorities now have a name for babies like alisa. they are called "children of silence" and children taken from their biological parents in the
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1970s and 1980s without their consent and knowledge and given to adoptive parents. and those children are in the 30s and 40s and asking about the origins and the secret that was kept from them for four decades. cnn has documented several adoptions like these, and including travis oliver who was also raised by american parents, but he did not meet his biological parents until he was 41 years old. >> i was wanted. i was not given up willingly like i thought for so many years. so that maches my heart feel wonderful. >> reporter: in 2014, the chilean authorities name ad special prosecutor to have these so-called irregular adoptions and a list that was said to include more than 600 families there. is an organization to help the the families to find each other, and has an even larger list. >> we have 3,000 people looking for them.
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and these are a adopted people and families looking for these b babies that were now, and they were stolen from them. >> reporter: she says that in those decades there were entire mafia stealing babies from impoverished families to profit from the sale while the government looked the other way or or simply ignored the victims. >> the doctors and the mid wives and the social assistants that were looking for poor people to sold their kids, because we need to understand that these kids were sold. this is not for good, and this is not for a good thing. they were a mafia selling babies to the outside chile. >> reporter: there is always going to be unanswered questions and the hospital where lisa claire cohen was born no longer
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exists and the same for the adoption agency, but for now, it does not matter. >> how do you feel right now? >> happy. very happy. >> reporter: her adoptive parents passed away a few years ago and so she says that the chilean family and adopted sister are all she has got. >> it is my mom. it is my family. you know, i think it is just. it's you always want to know where you came from. >> reporter: neither one of them speaks the other's language, but the love between the mother and the child they say knows no barriers. rafael oromo, cnn santiago, chile. >> wow. that is powerful. all right. shutdown showdown. president trump is threatening another government shutdown unless the democrats help to fund the border wall wall he wants. it is a familiar tune, but how is that is going to be playing with the seats in congress weighing in the balance? we will dig in coming up. your.
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