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>> i just need to get my coat here. >> can you give me a minute here, please? >> reporter: he made fun of himself. >> i wish that guy would shut up. >> reporter: no wonder he laughed so easily. he considered himself to be one of -- ♪ are the luckiest people ♪ >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> one-of-a-kind for sure. thank you so much for joining us. "ac 360" with john berman in tonight starts right now. i'm glad we got to the right place. john berman here in for anderson. those are the words of a trump supporter and republican strategist today after flags at the white house were lowered back to half-staff in honor of the late senator john mccain. the question tonight, what took so long, and why was the president still in the wrong place two full days after the senator died? what was so hard about offering a kind word to, praise to a
arizona republican as praise poured in from around the globe, paying tribute to man, because keeping them hostages o honest, none of she should have been hard. when a significant national figure dies, white house procedure is more or less automatic. it was followed recently after the passion of barbara bush a few months ago. the president issued a proclamation reading in part, as a mark of respect for the memory of barbara bush, i hereby order by the authority vested in me by the laws of the constitution of the united states of america the flag of the united states shall will flown at after staff at the white house and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval station and all naval vessels of the federal government in the district of columbia and throughout the united states and its territories and possessions until sunset on the di of internment. until sunset on the day of internment. senator mccain will be buried this coming sunday. yet this morning and for most of the day, white house flags flew normally, as if nothing had happened. as if a man who spent 5 1/2
years in vietnamese captivity, survived brutal torture, returned home to a life of public service and ran tries trice for president as if he were still alive. unlike the one for barbara bush, no proclamation went out from the president on saturday or yesterday or most of today. nor did a kind word for senator mccain escape the senator's lips at first or his twitter fingers when he posted this, my deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of senator mccain. our hearts and prayers are with you. nothing about the man. just about his family. he also tweeted about tiger woods's comeback and poll numbers. he boasted about the economy. but as for senator mccain, that lone tweet was it. s you saw, there was nothing in it about the man himself. the uproar only grew when "the washington post" reported that the president had also nixed a formal statement that staffers had prepared praising senator
mccain's life and heroism. but as scathing as the reaction was, it might have died down had the white house simply done what has traditionally been done at moment likes this, when institutions around washington and across the country have done, as this picture clearly shows. passions might have cooled had the president offered more than just stony silence, the five times he was asked about it today. >> mr. president, any thoughts on john mccain? >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you. thank you. >> do you have any thoughts at all about john mccain? do you believe john mccain is a hero? >> let's go. keep moving. >> nothing at all about john mccain? >> thank you.
>> the american legion has asked you to lower the flag to half-staff. any reaction to the american legion. why won't you say. >> press, let's go, make your way out. press, let's go. we're finished. let's go. >> thank you very much. >> mr. president, any comment on john mccain, sir? mr. president, why won't you call john mccain a hero, sir? >> so shortly after his final nonanswer, the president did offer a statement, reading in part, quote, despite our differences on policy and politics, i respect senator john mccain's service to our country and in his honor have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the united states at half-staff until the day of his internment. now to be clear, the president's statement is hardly effusive in its praise, but it is something. and had it been his first and
last word on the subject, chances are we wouldn't even be talk it. the president, after all, did not like senator mccain, famously so, nor did the senator have many good things to say about the president. that said, just as there is a tradition of lowering the flag at times like these, there is also a tradition of presidents suck it up and saying kind words, even the passing of people they famously despise, such as lyndon johnson did when his nemesis robert kennedy was murdered. quote, a noble and compassionate leader, the proclamation reads, a good and faithful servant of the people and the full vigor of his promise lies dead. maybe you see that as the president just being honest about someone he never liked. if so, why won't he just say so and on it? he didn't. he said nothing. or maybe someone at the white house just screwed up and didn't remind him that a proclamation was needed to keep the flags at half-staff. if that were the case, why
wasn't the southern miss stake corrected this morning when washington first started freaking out? and if they just didn't know that this is what you do when a significant national figure dice, why were procedures correctly followed back in april when barbara bush died? these are all questions which we don't have answers for tonight. questions forrer which we might never get answers. so as washington mourns and stews over the whole sad affair, we want to honor senator mccain the way that he wanted to be remembered in a letter written to be read when he passed. and so it was today by his dear friend and former campaign manager rick davis. >> i've often observed that i am the luckiest person on earth. i feel that way even now as i prepare for the end of my life. i've loved my life, all of it. i've had experiences, adventures, friendships, enough for ten satisfying lives, and i am so thankful. like most people, i've regrets,
but i would not trade a day of my life in good or bad times for the best day of anybody else's. fellow americans, that association has meant more to me than any other. i lived and died a proud american. we are citizens of the world's greatest republic, a nation of ideals, not blood and soil. we're blessed and are a blessing to humanity when we uphold and advance those ideals at home and in the world. we weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. we weaken it when we hide behind walls rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals rather than trust them to be the great force for change they have always been.
ten years ago, i had the privilege to concede defeat in the election for president. i want to end my farewell to you with heartfelt faith in americans that i felt so powerfully that evening, i feel it powerfully still. do not despair of our present difficulties. we believe always in the promise and greatness of america because nothing is inevitable here. americans never quit. we never surrender. we never hide from history. we make history. farewell, fellow americans. god bless you, and god bless america. >> that was rick davis earlier today. late this evening, the president did speak briefly about senator mccain. joining us now from the white house, cnn's jim acosta. and jim, the president just made his first public out loud comments about the passing of senator mccain. what did he say? >> that's right, john.
it turns out the sixth time was the charm, and this was unprompted. reporters tried all day long. i was one of those reporters. i tried to ask a question at that fifth photo opportunity when the president did not respond. but later this evening, as you pointed out just a few moments ago, he was having dinner with evangelical leaders at the white house, and the white house pool as we call it, they were in the room and the president going through his remarks for evening did make a passing reference of respect to john mccain. here's what he had to say. >> also, our hearts and players are going to the family of senator john mccain. kit be a lot of activity over the next number of days. and we have very much appreciated everything that senator mccain has done for our country. so thank you very much. [ applause ] >> and so john, you could hear the applause there in the room. it sounded like a lot of people
in the room twantd hear the president do that. i reached out to sarah huckabee sanders, the white house press secretary earlier today and asked why did it take so long, why it is they thaufrd proclamation after they decide on saturday to put out that tweet. she said this was the president's doing, and the statement put out speaks for itself. a lot of other things speak for themselves including the other opportunities when the president had a chance to say something kind about john mccain and he simply passed up that chance. >> clearly he ultimately felt the pressure. jim acosta, thank you so much for being with us. i do appreciate it. someone who worked in congress alongside john mccain and followed in a way his campaign footsteps, running for president in 2016 as the kind of conservative maverick john mccain tried to be in 2000 and 2008. ohio governor john kasich. we spoke earlier today. governor kasich, when you think about senator mccain, in your own interactions with him, what will you remember most? >> wow, i mean, he -- he liked
to laugh. he had a great sense of humor. he had incredible passion. he had strong faith in the lord. and he is just like a regular guy. i mean, it's all those things put together. he is inspiring to me. in some ways, even though we were -- we were peers, at one point we were both in the house of representatives together, i kind of felt like he was almost like a coach. i wanted to get attaboys from him. he was kind of a guy you wanted him to give you some praise. and when you think about his life, i mean, my goodness, what that guy had been through and what he represented was just absolutely amazing. i remember being in his office not too long ago when he was showing me the picture that the vietnamese had taken when they fished him out of the ocean. he was really proud of that. the guy just did it all. he did it all. >> so if you always thought of a coach, you're going love this next question. because way back in 1998, we dug this up. "the new york times" asked
senator mccain about you for a profile that "the times" was writing on you and your political ambitions. get. this senator mccain said you were a fine, fine young man, one of the best we have, but that, quote, he has a hair trigger temper. so that of course coming from a man who himself was known for his quick tiemper. 20 years later what do you make of his cheeky description you have? aw, that's -- here's the thing about washington that's really interesting. sometimes you have to get people's attention. and i'd say that john mccain and i in many respects were young men in a hurry, in a hurry to change the world, in a hurry to get things done. and when obstacles got in our way that we were certain, certain in our own way were vital to the spirit of our country or what we were trying to get accomplished, you know, we moved fast, and we were very vocal about things. now, that was '98.
i've gotten a little more calm. but i still have the same burning passion just like john did. it was interesting he said that, you know. good. good, john. he and i would have a big chuckle over it if he were here today. one thing i do want to tell you, i do want you to hear that when i found out he was ill, and i did track him down in arizona, and i did ask him if he was okay with the lord, the big guy. and he said, "johnny, don't have to worry. i got that all taken care of." and that was important to me. i also called him when he voted no on getting rid of that health care for americans. and when i talked to him, i said john, sometimes he was hard to get, i said john, you've always been my hero, and never more than right now. so, you know, it's great that he goes down with a ten strike as far as i'm concerned on a hole in one. i just loved the guy.
>> so let me read you something that gets to what his role is in washington and in the country. this is something dan balz from t"the washington post." his death is reminder of new time with new challenges for generation that now must follow his footsteps. will anyone pick up the legacy he leaves behind? so what about that? will anyone pick up the legacy that john mccain leaves behind or does his style, his way of doing things die along with it? >> i don't -- you're never going have another john mccain. he's the real mccoy. but do i think his life will inspire other people? we certainly hope so. we hope that people will forget about so much about partisanship and party and all that business, because what mccain loved most is he loved his country. and if you always -- when you're in a position of authority, you love your country above all else, you end up doing better. but i think there is one other thing that could be very helpful
and inspiring to people, and that is wherever you live, whatever you do, that you can make a difference in the way the world turns. and that kind of inspiration we need, because we need people where they live to begin to take matters into their own hands to be constructive with other people, regardless of their philosophies or their political party and that other stuff, and let's make our world better. i think john is an inspiration for that as well. as for the major big shots, let's think about the people who drive our country which are the real folks who he loved when he would go to those baseball games. >> governor, i want to ask you about how the white house has handled its response to this. it took two days, two full days to put out a statement praising senator mccain's service to the country, not to mention the fact that the president was asked five times about it today if he had anything to say out loud about senator mccain, and he refused to offer one word of
praise on camera. what does that tell you about the president? >> well, look, they've moved the flags back down again. they're now at half-staff. the president, president trump put out some kind words. this is not the time. this is the time to think -- look, what's happening with john mccain's death saul over the globe. people are saying we have a breath where we can be together. well don't have to be on the left. we don't have to bob the right. this is a time for us to be together and to have some peace, and sort of call a truce to all the things that have been happening here, the john mccain opposed. so i don't want to -- all i can say is they're getting it right now. and thank goodness that they are. >> so you're relieved that finally they got to where you think they should be on that? >> yeah, i think so. >> governor john case soyfk ohio, thank you so much for being with us. thank you for sharing your memories thinking. god bless. >> and the president finally did speak out loud about senator mccain tonight. we have much more ahead,
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>> i have the honor of finally meeting cindy mccain. i gave her a medallion that was presented to me over two years ago during the operation freedom. i had the honor of going to arlington with 39 other vietnam veterans. and when she came out, that was the first thought that came to me. i wanted to give her something that related to her husband's service. >> he wanted to give her something because her husband gave him and the country so much. joining us now, three people who knew the senator well. political consultant and writer stuart stevens, david gergen and cnn chief political correspondent dana bash. and david, i had a chance earlier today to speak to former congressman patrick kennedy, the son of the late senator ted kennedy. i was talking to him about the
relationship between senator kennedy and senator mccain. listen to this. >> and my father genuinely loved and respected john mccain. it's an example of what we need today, again, and that is even though they disagreed, they were always searching for ways to put their country ahead of their party. and it sounds so trite, but no, not at all. these n these days that we're living in, we really need people to have that as their goal. >> so patrick kennedy says that's the goal, david, finding a way to reach across the aisle, at least on a few things it is. an achievable goal at this point? or does it drift ever off into the distance with the passing of senator mccain? >> well, i've certainly lost one of the heroes of the bipartisanship and people who believe in bipartisanship. and he will be missed. there is no question about that. but, john, i have to say the
outpouring of grief and paying of respects by so many americans across the aisle has been heartwarming. i think one of the things we've learned in the last 48 hours is there is millions of americans out there who continue to respect leaders of courage, of candor and of character. john mccain was certainly that. and people are rallying to that that believe. and that gives me hope that we can actually with a new generation coming into power, i think you're going find a lot of people coming into power, especially veterans who come back from afghanistan and iraq will try to follow in the footsteps of john mccain. >> let's hope. dana, it's interesting. the president finally did speak words out loud. the flag finally was lowered to half-staff there. do you think it was this pressure and this outpouring of emotion that david gergen was just talking about there that ultimately made it just impossible for the president not to step up? >> who knows.
you know, the american legion was putting pressure on him and veterans groups are very important politically to the president. i know from talking to people who have, you know, have an affection for both men and those people do exist that they were really urging the president to cut it out and act like a president and do the basic they think he should have done, which he ended up doing at the end of the day. and it's unfortunate. it's a distraction. it's a distraction from the things that david was just talking about from that incredible moment that you played with the veteran and cindy mccain. and unfortunately, it's also a contrast that puts the way that john mccain approached things. not that he was perfect, and not that he didn't have his flaws and not that he didn't get into spats with people. the president someone of them. but when it came to moments like this, he put things aside, and the contrast is even more
evident. but it sufrt. >> stewart, were you surprised about the way it played out tod today? >> i'm sort of beyond being surprised here. i think it's unfortunate that we have to have a an argument about whether we're going to honor a great man like john mccain. what it really makes you realize is not just that we've lost this man, but what else have we lost in this country at this moment? if anything should be just an outpouring from the white house of respect. here is someone who is known across the globe, not just america, as a great american who embodies so many characteristics that we like to think are the best of america -- courage and independence, his maverick streak. and it's sort of inconceivable that there could be anything other than just support for him. and when you're forced to do the gracious thing, it's never gracious. >> stuart, can i ask you, because you worked on george w. bush's campaign in 2000.
you also worked for mitt romney in 2008 after briefly working for john mccain there. but you ran against john mccain basically. what was that like? was it hard to run against him? what kind of challenge did he pose? >> well, sure. john mccain is the comeback guy. the way he came from nowhere in new hampshire. the bush campaign, it is no exaggeration to say that we were 66 points ahead and lost by 19. that's hard to do, and we also outspent him. but that was a magical moment that he had in new hampshire. i mean, a couple of us, we used to sneak away and go to these mccain town halls up in new hampshire because they were just having so much fun. and it was something magical that happened. he didn't end up winning the nomination, but he ran a tremendously courageous race in
2008. he was completely counted out. and came back, as you all know and recovered to win the nomination and did it with dignity and with that unique style. a great -- a great man who had a special, unique feel for the political world. >> so david gergen, there is an interesting short-term fork in the road in arizona right now. the governor there, the republican governor doug doocy has to choose who to fill john mccain's seat. and whoever he chooses will fill the seat into 2020. but people are looking at this for signals. if he will pick a trump-like republican or a mccain-like republican. and as we look at this and see where the party is going, particularly in a place like arizona, is there any reason to think that the party isn't with president trump, and that's where the governor will go? >> that's a hard question, john. arizona, i would assume before
this that arizona would appoint a mccain-like figure. but given what is occurring among activists in the country and the candidate who is there who has been speak:00 out in sort of unbelievable ways against mccain, you know, i think it's a toss-up. i do think -- i would imagine that the person who is appointed will vote to prove judge cavanaugh joining the supreme court. that's one of the most important things that person has to do in the next few months. >> you know, but it is interesting here to look at this as a literal fork in the road, a literal private point for the republican party. dana, go ahead. >> yeah, because what's going on, it's not -- it's not a theory. it's actually practical there is a republican primary there for the other senate seat that jeff flake is leaving tomorrow. and the republican candidates are hugging donald trump as tightly as they can, not john mccain.
and so that tells you everything you need to know about where the republican party is in arizona, and it is, you know, just an anecdote about the shift away from the mccain republican party that we've seen in part really since 2007, like stuart was saying in 2008, when john mccain almost lost the republican nomination because of his very deep differences with that base. >> so, stuart, you have worked in republican politics for your whole life. where is this going? are you optimistic? do you feel as if the party is headed where you want to? is it going in that mccain direction or have you been very critical of donald trump? do you realistically think this is cooked right snow? >> well, i'm not particularly optimistic. which is unusual for me, because i normally am, in that i just see the specific issues, the underpinnings of what it was that so many of us were drawn to the republican party for. it was character counts. personal responsibility.
strong on russia, having a realistic view of the soviet union and russia, even the national debt. these are all things that have been turned to their head in this moment. and i think that they transcend any particular vote on taxes or vote on tariffs. it's sort of who are you? you have to ask yourself. and are we in a world where character doesn't count? i don't think the rest of the seaworld in that place. i think that the rest of the world believes character does counted, and i think that ultimately that will come back to haunt the republican party. and i hope that it comes home to what is its true, best self. >> david gergen? >> listen, i think the republican party today, stuart certainly right. it's unrecognizable for anyone who has been around and understood what the values are. i just want to make a point, though, that when you the outpouring coming from both sides across the political spectrum of what john mccain
represented, it does suggest there are counterpressures in this country to bring the republican party back. >> i agree. >> to its sense. and right now the republican party is embracing donald trump completely. and if he goes down, it's going go down with him. but -- dana, please. >> i don't mean to interrupt. i thought you were done. i do agree with you. i do have optimism, but not particularly for a particular party. just about basic humanity and the desire among american voters as you said earlier so eloquently to have leaders with character who believe in the basic institutions that are so under attack right now from the government institutions to institutions like the media, basic tenets of democracy. and i think it has nothing to do with the republican or democratic party. it's just that kind of person that people clearly are yearning for. >> dana bash, david gergen,
stuart stevens, thank you so much for joining us tonight, sharing your thought, sharing your memories. really appreciate it. senator mccain was a man of many talents, and one of them was a terrific, biting sense of hiram. just ahead we'll examine that as part of his legacy. ito take care of anyct messy situations.. and put irritation in its place. and if i can get comfortable keeping this tookus safe and protected... you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it.
he had a twinkle in his eye. that's what most people said after spending time with senator mccain. sure, he was human and he had a caustic side. boy, did he ever. but along with that came wit and a finely tuned sense of humor. here is 360's randi kaye. >> good evening, my fellow americans. i ask you what should we be
looking for in our next president? certainly someone who is very, very, very old. >> reporter: senator john mccain two months after winning the 2008 republican party nomination cracking jokes on "saturday night live." one of countless opportunities the senator took to poke fun at himself. >> i've also opposed federal water projects, even when they benefitted my state. that's why thanks to me, 15% of arizona citizens must get their drinking water from cactus. >> reporter: he was the first sitting senator to host "saturday night live" and returned to the show many times. his comic timing always impressive. mccain played everything from a creepy husband -- >> you're so lovely. >> oh, oh. >> i could watch you for hours. >> oh my god, david, how did you get in here? >> the door was open, angel. shall i loofah your back? >> reporter: to a charactergran
>> that's where i get on tv and go come on, obama is going to have plenty of chances to be president. it's my turn. >> reporter: he could be cutting too, like when someone asked him in 2007 if he is too old to be president. >> thanks for the question, you little jerk. you're drafted. >> reporter: at times, his jokes were spur of the moment, like when he did this to a cnn reporter while he was on live tv. >> the department laying out a series -- mccain got such a kick out of himself, tweeted about it later, calling it revenge. he liked to joke with the media, even our own anderson cooper during this interview in washington, d.c. >> it's always good to see you here and trying to do the lord's work in the city of satan. >> reporter: while not everyone appreciated his sarcasm, those who did often enjoyed being part
of the joke, like senator chris coons who fondly remembers mccain teasing him when he was junior senator. >> and he spots me, and he says coons, you get off my plane! sort of what? and lindsey comes over and gra grabs my arm and says that's how you know he likes you. >> reporter: whatever inspired his sense of humor, senator john mccain left us all laughing and smiling in his memory. randi kaye, cnn, florida. >> so ainge ghiss king did not know john mccain personally until he arrived on capitol hill, but became not just colleagues, but friends, especially so on overseas trips together. and senator king joins me now. senator, thank you so much for being with us. it was really fun. >> great to be with you. oh, yeah, fantastic. that's the john mccain i knew. >> exactly. tell us than. because obviously he took policy very seriously. but it is so obvious that he
loved to crack jokes about himself, make fun of himself and frankly, make fun of others too. >> oh yeah. he would get after us. one of the great things about traveling with john mccain, i told somebody the other day, it was like a long march with paul mccartney. you never stopped moving, you never stopped going, there was always another meeting. but also, everyone knew him. everywhere in the world people would recognize him. it's a good thing for a u.s. senator to have a tourist hand you their phone and say could you take my picture with senator mccain? that happened all the time all over the world. and, you know, he was always very gracious, but he also always liked to ding you. one day he had a wonderful forum in sedona, arizona, which i hope will continue on foreign policy. and for two or three years, he invited me out and i spoke and participated in the forum. and then last year i said gee, i have a conflict. i can't make it this year. and he looked at me and sort of
squirn squinted and said, "you're dead to me." ands they it. that the kind of wit he had. he loved to try to cut you down. >> we have a clip from stephen colbert. let me play this and we'll talk about it. >> sure. >> you're the 2008 republican candidate for president of these united states. >> thanks for bringing that up. >> after i lost, i slept like a baby. >> yeah? >> sleep two hours, wake up and cry, sleep two hours, wake up and cry. >> so the funny thing is i heard him tell that joke for jeers after the 2000 nomination fight but kept it in the repertoire and would recycle it over time. really an incredible sense of humor. >> he was wonderful. by the way, john, i hope at some time tonight you will play his concession speech in 2008. it is a classic of graciousness
and healing and urging the country to come together. i mean, it's exactly what we need. and, you know, he was just the classiest of guy, rick davis actually quoted directly from it in the specific letter that john mccain wanted read out loud after his passing. so we did hear some of that. senator king, i want to ask you specifically, again you didn't know him before you got to the senate. >> right. >> but then you did get to know him. and he developed an affection for you. and from what i can tell, it's because you were willing to work. yes, you're a nice charming guy. but at the hearing you would sit at, you would be one of the few senators to be in there for the whole hearing. and the reason that struck me is because senator mccain, for all his heroism, for everything else was man of the senate, and he wanted to get work done there. >> well, and every now and then, once he sent me a note saying thanks for being here until the end. i like senate hearing. that's one of my favorite parts of the job. i like to sit right through
them. so often attend of the hearing it would be he and jim inhofe and me, and we'd be asking final questions. i don't know whether that's what made him sort of pick me out and take me on the trip and out to sedona, but whatever it was. now there was a funny moment in a senate hearing. bill cohen, a former senator from maine who was then secretary of defense was testifying. and at the end of his testimony, he looked up at mccain and said, "now mr. chairman, i would like to recognize my former governor and current senator from maine, senator king." mccain said no! cut him right off that was -- he always reminded you who was the chairman. and, you know, we disagreed. i disagreed with him on issues from time to time. in one memorable case i beat him in a vote in the armed services committee on a bill. i lee boyd malvo some of his republican colleagues. he was pretty surprised by that. but he took it graciously. it was a big deal for me. and, you know, that was the
relationship that we had. i think it was mutual respect. i also had a very poignant moment on the floor with him. i think it was some time in the winter where where he knew what was coming. and it sort of took me aback, but he said, you know, angus, i've had a hell of a life. i've had a hell of a life. it couldn't be any better. it's okay to go. >> senator angus king, we'll leave there it with those poignant words. thank you so much for being with us tonight and sharing your memories. and i'll give you a little promotion. we'll see you tomorrow morning on "new day". >> yes, sir. as we noted, it has been an up-and-down day at the whourks especially where the american flag is concerned. coming up, inside news on exactly what went on and when during the inside deliberations revolving around how to remember arizona senator john mccain. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't.
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senator, quote, a hero. more now on that story. josh, you broke the story about what was going on within the white house over what kind of statement, if any, they should release about the death of john mccain. walk us through again what you learned. >> right. so white house aides crafted a statement that cast john mccain as a hero and praised his service as a vietnam prisoner of war for five half years and for his service in the senate. it was an official statement from the white house. on saturday the president was given that statement, final edited version, and chose not to release it, instead he had a tweet where he expressed condolences to john mccain's family but not giving him any compliments himself. >> not any direct praise to the service of john mccain in the military or in the senate. >> right. >> just to be clear what you just said there, it was the president who nixed releasing that kind of statement? >> correct. >> directly?
>> yes. it was john kelly, sarah sanders and others crafted the statement. there was widespread agreement in the white house that something needed to be put out through official channels and the president did not want to do it. now we've seen a bit of a change of heart in the past 24 hours -- >> yes. >> -- you know, there was a statement this afternoon where the president said he did respect john mccain's service, even though he disagreed with him. that was the best compliment he gave. but it was more than we've seen previously. and then tonight at dinner with evangelical leaders president trump just gave a little bit more praise, saying he respected his service -- >> so, josh, the question is, how did he get to this point? do you have any reporting on how this evolved from the no you reported over the weekend, to the now releasing the kind of statement that would have made this a non-story all along. >> there's been widespread
denunciations from even the president's supporters, the american legion came out with a statement criticizing the president for moving the flag to full staff after a day. that was also reversed in a happen hazard way this afternoon. there was criticism from his white house, a number of his aids, pompeo, ivanka trump his daughter, all put out statements praising john mccain. he was on an island if his own white house. it was clear about the condemnations of how the president handled his death were not slowing down. the president felt he was unfairly besieged. he said everyone knew he didn't like john mccain so any statement would be disingenuous. but after a while of two full days, essentially, or at least a day and a half of much of a story being about what the critics saw as a lackluster
response to the death of an american senator and war hero, he changed course. >> it's been fascinating to watch. thank you for you and your reporting. >> thank you. let's check in with chris to see what he's got coming up for "cuomo prime time". >> we're all processing, and what motivated trump, it's simple we know what that's about. the subtle part is what do you take from john mccain, what do we take, what do we carry forward. we'll also deal with loss of credibility in the catholic church and lack of attention in jacksonville. we'll get into all of it tonight. next the latest on plans for
former presidents george w. bush and barack obama will pay tribute to senator john mccain at his memorial service at the national cathedral this saturday. the details are coming together what will happen in the days leading up to his burial. a week of honoring a true hero. what details are we learning? >> reporter: it's so hard to say good-bye to john mccain but this is the week, the beginning of a long good-bye to john mccain. on wednesday he will lay in state at the capital in phoenix, on thursday a procession, well wishers are invited to line the route up there. thursday afternoon he'll be
transferred to andrews air force base in washington d.c. and on friday he will lie in state in the rotunda of the u.s. capital. and on sunday he'll be moved by procession in washington d.c. and he'll be moved from washington to his beloved naval academy in annapolis, maryland where there will be a private ceremony and he'll be interred sunday afternoon in annapolis. >> we know about former presidents bush and obama, who are some of the other notable speakers? >> it is incredible to read the number of individuals -- the number of individuals this man touched around the word, there are processions, services, there are prayers, there are celebrations of his life along the way. to name a few, joe biden and mike pence, henry kissinger,
warren beatty will take part and general david portrais, michael bloomberg and the citying secretary of defense james mattis will all take part. some of these people speaking during these events. the one person in all of these events that is not on any of it, notably, is sitting president, donald trump. >> i am sure for all of these people it will be hard for them, but an honor to speak on behalf of their friend. i was struck by the presence of joe biden, they're almost treating him like a family member as he suffered from the loss of his son from the same cancer. >> >> reporter: a special place reserved for joe biden. it's incredible the number of not only politicians across the
political divide that will be gathering this week. >> thank you, miguel, very, very much. don't miss full circle on facebook, where you pick up some of the stories, you can also see it weeknights at 6:25 eastern at facebook.com/anderson circle. we hand it over to chris cuomo. >> chris cuomo, respect, john mccain gets it for the strength not nearly the length of his service to the nation. respect, president trump could not give it to mccain until he was shamed into it this afternoon. tonight we're going to get after this. when will our president understand that the flag and the office he holds actually belong to the people and he must act in our interests. plus this moment should be less about trump. so we're going to take time to be positive in the midst of pain. we have something very special