tv New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman CNN October 11, 2018 5:00am-6:01am PDT
florida. alisyn camerota in new york. around me is the aftermath of hurricane michael. one of the most powerful storms ever to make land fall in the united states, period. the wind speeds for 125 miles an hour and the damage is expensive. now that it is light out, now that we can venture out a little bit, we are getting a sense of how bad it is. you can see behind me this was a grocery store, an office building made of cinder block that is just smashed into tiny, little bits. the wood is all splinters. all the metal twisted into bits. more than 500,000 people are now without power. as of now, we know of two deaths. a man in florida and an 11-year-old girl in georgia were killed when trees hit their houses. this was the western eye wall of
the storm, 100 miles an hour sustained winds here, gusts of 120. it was worse as you head east. we're just getting a sense now of mexico beach in callaway, how bad the damage is there. people just told me you will not believe it when you see it. so that is the situation being dealt with now. joining us to talk about it is the governor of florida, rick scott. thank you very much for being it was. you are getting more information, more updated information than we are. why don't you tell us what you are hearing about the aftermath of this storm. >> there is unbelievable devastation. my biggest concern is, of course, loss of life. so i know we have a lot of people that i have heard are injured. i will be going down to the impacted areas in just a little bit. we did search and rescue all night long. the coast guard has been
unbelievable. they did rescues during the night for us. we have a massive flow of search and rescue highway patrol, national guard, utility workers pushing their way down to these impacted areas, and they're doing -- we're doing everything we can to get all the resources we need. my biggest concern, of course, would be loss of life. and i want everybody, everybody to think about this. you survive this unbelievable storm, stay safe. don't venture out unless you have to. listen to the locals. we've got downed power lines. we have trees all over the place. this is a very -- a lot of this area has a lot of forest. we have trees everywhere. it will take us time, but we will get to you as quickly as we can. follow the rules when using a generator. i don't want to lose anybody in this storm. we'll find out what happened, but everybody is working hard to
get to these impacted areas, and my heart goes out to everybody impacted by this. i wish this had never happened. >> yeah. two reasons to stay off the road. number one, you don't know what's on them. there are power lines down, trees down everywhere. the emergency crews need to get out everywhere we can. we are getting a sense -- again, we couldn't get the drones up yesterday. it was too windy and too rainy. now that it is light out, we are beginning to see the scope of the devastation. what you are seeing on the screen right now, this is panama city beach. i'm not saying it wasn't bad. sustained winds of 120 miles an hour. gusts of 120. and it is even worse as you head east. these pictures we're seeing give you a sense of the damage that was done. >> oh, absolutely. and what i have heard, we had significant damage in mexico beach. i have been talking to
individuals down there. so we are -- we are -- our risk -- our crews worked all night long. over 1,000 individuals doing rescue. the coast guard. i have already talked to secretary of homeland security today. they will provide whatever resources we need. i talked to brock long at fema. they have promised everything we need to take care of our citizens. so i'm going to get down there and make sure all the resources are there because i'm very concerned about what's happened. >> we spoke to someone with the cajun navy, the volunteer crew that responds. they have been conducting rescues in calway. do you have any numbers or sense of how many people are calling for aid and need to be rescued? >> i don't know the exact number, but i know many people -- we know many people have been injured.
both of our hospitals in panama city were -- you know, one is in the process of being closed -- well, both of them are being in the process of being closed down. we know many people are coming in for injuries. so i don't know the numbers yet. but we're going to do everything we can to take care of everybody and get resources there as quickly as we can. i want to thank the people that worked all night to get to these areas. >> again, the pictures we're showing, i believe pirate's cove m marina in panama city beach, and you can see how bad it was. it is unclear to me, i'm standing in front of a building made of sicinder block. it's unclear if this is the victim of one of the tornadoes that we think went through. even with the new building codes, the buildings were not able to withstand it. >> yeah. i wanted everybody to stay safe.
we've got a lot of debris. we have a lot of downed power lines. about 360,000 homes and businesses without power. just remember there is a lot of trees in this part of the state. it will take us time. we are trying to clear i-10 right now to get the roads up as quickly as we can. stay in your house. listen to the locals. be safe. don't do anything foolish. we've got a massive flow of rescue workers coming now to help you. >> speaking of brock long earlier was talking about the frustration that he has often when these warnings are given. still so many did choose to stay. so going forward, you know, looking at the damage that was done this morning, looking at how this storm gained strength as it made land fall, how do you get that message out? >> you know, so i have had quite
a few hurricanes as governor. we had irma last year. one of the reasons why is we had more time, more people evacuated. six million people evacuated. we had more time. harvey just happened and people saw the footage of harvey. this happened so fast. i went up and down the coast doing events trying to get people to evacuate. people don't realize the deadliness of this storm surge because we just don't see it. we saw irma down the keys last year. i tried to explain to people what happens. it comes in, completely fills in your house and sucks everything out. it's just -- you can't survive it. people just have never seen that. but i think part of it is it happened so fast. but now this is horrible. now our job is to search for everybody, rescue everybody, get everybody the resources they need and we'll recover. we are a very resilient state.
we have a very good economy, so we'll recover and floridans are strong and we'll work together. but i want to thank everybody for their resources. >> we know you are headed down to the gulf coast very shortly. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks, john. bye-bye. all right. joining us now by phone is the senior senator for the state of florida. thank you very much for being with us. again, like the rest of us, as the light comes up, i know you are getting the first sense of just how devastating hurricane michael was to your state. >> yes. and as you go east of panama city, that's where that wall of water on the eastern side of the eye wall is and you are going to see a lot of destruction when the rescue crews get into mexico beach. you've got reporters further
east. that is at least protected by a barrier island, so there is some break-up of that wall of water. but mexico beach is straight on to the gulf. and that's where you're going to see the extreme, extreme devastation. >> what are you hearing from your sources on the ground from there? we haven't heard from mexico beach yet this morning. we have spoken to people elsewhere, and they describe a war zone like setting. >> which is what you would expect of a category four. as the wind goes up from a two to a three, the damage goes up. and i'm afraid that we're going to see that. let's just hope in mexico beach that people evacuated because if
they stayed right there and got the full brunt of the storm straight from the gulf without a barrier island at least breaking it a little bit, there is going to be some significant loss. >> and we are hopeful. we are hopeful that when we hear from them we will learn that they're okay, or better yet, that they weren't even there when the storm hits. we're looking at this aerial footage. it is our first chance to get a sense of the scope from the sky. this is the marina, pirate's cove marina, and you can see how bad it was. the storm surge and also the winds. and i know surge is deadly, but winds can be very, very damaging. and these winds were like nothing the panhandle has ever seen. and people this morning are finding limbs everywhere, debris
everywhere and difficult to move around. >> what was particular deadly in this storm is that the gulf of mexico was four degrees hotter than is usual for october. october, things are supposed to get cooler. in fact, it picked up in a short period of time, that extra strength fueled from that hot water of the gulf of mexico, and then that was what was so surprising to everybody and so deadly as it approached the coast. >> whenever someone brings that up, whenever a politician brings up the rising temperatures of the water, you will hear people say on the other side of the aisle, don't blame global warming for this. don't blame global warming for that. is that something you feel needs to be addressed if florida is going to face these historic
storms? >> of course. florida is ground zero. look at what's happening down in south florida on the high tide that is sloshing over the street curbs in places like miami beach. listen to the scientists at the national hurricane center. listen to the scientists at the national weather service. and they will tell you that the earth is heating up and the ferociousness of these storms is as a result in part of that heating up of the earth. so we've got to be clear-headed as we approach each storm season because this is what we are increasingly going to be facing. and as a result, we're going to have to adapt to that. instead of living in the past, we are going to have to adapt to that with our building standards
and our locations of structures in the future. >> senator bill nelson, senior senator from the state of florida, thank s for being with us this morning. thank you, sir. >> thank you, john. all right. there is, believe it or not, a new 8:00 a.m. update on michael. no longer a hurricane. still, though, perhaps damaging and a threat to some parts of the country. let's bring in chad myers. >> still capable of bringing down trees. it went right over the augusta national golf course, now going over south carolina in places now that are saturated from florence that was there just a few weeks ago. so still 50 miles an hour. still raining in many spots. charlotte, columbia, you will see rain much of the day. eventually this thing goes out
to sea. but d.c., you will pick up a lot of rain today. also the south towns there around d.c. may pick up around four inches of rain fall. that's where we're going to see most of that flooding possibility today. so on monday it was an 80 miles an hour storm. by monday at 10:00 a.m., it was forecast to be a major hurricane at 1:20 in that exact location. but they got the up and down wrong. remember i said yesterday you can be plus or minus 10%. they were plus or minus 20%. we always know the direction forecast is better than the speed direction. so we're worried about mexico beach. we are worried about the areas we haven't even heard from yet because every piece of communication there is gone. we're trying to get there. so is everyone else. the first responders are on the way. but i know there are many, many loved ones waiting to hear from people in that area. there is nothing to even get a cell tower with. john, we will do our best.
>> we appreciate the effort you put into this and the warnings you have given people. it is frustrating for a lot of people on the gulf coast. cell service is spotty. they want to get the message out that they are doing okay. i want to go back to you in new york. now that it is light out, it looks even worse the damage that's done here. where there is not debris, there is trees down, leaves down. we have seen convoys of aid. they have their work cut out for them. >> it is stunning to see your backdrop now that the sun has come up. we do have other breaking news to get to right now because this rocket booster failed during the launch. you are about to see dramatic video. this was carries a russian astronaut. he had to eject.
live in moscow with the breaking details. what have you learned, fred? >> reporter: we have a great deal of new information that we have gathered in the past hour or so since we last spoke because we now have the first images of these two after they were retrieved after making that landing there in the area very far to the east where they lifted off. they were pulled from that capsule. you can see them sitting on two couches, seem to be hooked up to medical equipment there, probably measuring their vital signs. the information we're getting is that both are obviously conscious and appear to at least be in good health. i do have some information. right now they're on a helicopter being transported back from the site where the capsule landed to the space
station of where that rocket lifted off from in the beginning. the russians say they have already started an investigation into what happened. the information we have is the rocket lifted off from the space center and less than three minutes into the flight there seemed to have been a malfunction in the main booster of that rocket. we have been looking at the radio transmissions coming live, and it was really remarkable to see the professionalism and the calm of them as they radioed back they had the emergency and they separated the capsule from the rocket. they then came back to earth, which is called a ballistic dece decent. >> fred, this is a remarkable story because that video of watching them eject harkens back to our worst memories of the catastrophic events with the challenger. >> yes. >> and then to see them lounging
on the sofa and that they survived seemingly in good condition and one piece is just remarkable. fred, thank you very much for all of that new information about this mishap. thank you. john berman is in panama city, florida. the light has come up, and he is showing us the devastation from hurricane michael and everything that's happened there in the past 24 hours. also remarkable, john. >> yeah. the damage is extensive this morning. you know, yesterday before the storm hit, we met some people who decided that they were going to ride it out. they were nervous. they were very worried because by yesterday morning you knew this was going to be a very powerful storm. some people decided to stay. we will get a chance to talk to them and find out how they were doing. i will give you a preview. they made it. they're okay. we want to find out how it was and how they got here. our live coverage continues right after this.
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it? >> it's just devastation here. like i said, the end of the beach that we're on, we didn't see this much. but when we came across halfway bridge it was like coming into a war zone. everything looks like it exploded. it's insane. >> all right. so what was it like? what was it like for you as this storm was bearing down? >> it was scarey. it was real scarey. >> terrifying. >> you heard the winds, the rain. the trees were literally bent over in half. we took cover for like two and a half hours in a small bathroom. you don't know what's happening outside around. you can just hear the winds. things hitting the house, you don't know. it's a scarey feeling. >> it is a scarey feeling. i will ask you to show us your arm because you did something that sometimes we hear from first responders. you wrote your name on your arm. why? >> well, sometimes in this type of situation, it's hard to say,
but that's the only way they can identify the bodies. if it had gone to the extreme that they were predicting, better safe than sorry, you know. at least someone could identify you. so we had everybody in our party do that, write their name on their arm just in case. but luckily no casualties on our end. we're saying a lot of prayers for our family and friends. >> what is your situation? how are you set up? >> grills. actually, our neighborhood is coming together with all the frozen food in the refrigerator is now that younow thawed out. we're celebrating being here and feeding the people that can't fend for themselves, helping each other. >> you don't have power.
>> no. >> have you seen the work crews out this morning? >> we haven't seen anybody out in our area, not yet. i know alabama, which is our co-home state, we know, is sending out a lot of alabama power people this way, sending out all their trucks. so hopefully by mid-day everybody will be getting in gear, and we'll be able to dig out. >> what was the worst moment for you? >> well, it's hard to say what the worst moment is. you really don't know what the worst moment is because it all was bad. once you lose power, that's it. you lose all contact. you know, your cell phones, you try to save your battery for your cell phone. but when you lose power and it all goes black and you don't know what's happening. >> it really is. it is an interesting moment because it is a sign now we're
in it. now we're in it. >> there's no turning back. >> having made the decision to do this, writing your name on your arm, choosing the stay in your house for what was a category four, nearly a category five storm, did you learn anything, any lessons? >> well, life is just sort of a hit and miss, i guess, anyway. you have to make decisions sometimes in your life what i call selfless decision. being there are more people around here that are going to need me. so i guess tracy and i both just made that decision to try to stay and be as much help as we could to the people that couldn't get out. we couldn't leave them. so we stayed and thank the lord everybody was safe and we were safe. but i think the scariest part was coming out of that room. being in the pitch dark for two
and a half hours is really terrifying. but coming out of there and not knowing what you are going to see when you come out. is everything gone? like in our case, everybody but just a few trees blown over and debris. we were okay. i can't imagine what these people here in panama city are feeling coming out and seeing everything gone like this. >> i can't tell you how nice it is to see you this morning. thank you so much for coming here and talking to us. i know people will be thrilled. the people who saw you yesterday will be thrilled to see you here doing well. glad you're safe. be careful over the next few days. i got to say, people choose to stay for different reasons. sometimes you are trying to help others. sometimes you don't have the money to go. sometimes you are not healthy enough. there are reasons people that make that decision. we're glad they made it through. >> i thought they really sort of opened our minds to that
yesterday when they were saying so many of their neighbors have big pets, they're old, they're sick. but we are so happy that you checked back in with them because i have friends who were texting to ask about those two ladies. so thank you for giving us an update, john. meanwhile, back here, there is pressure building on the president to confront the saudi government about what happened to this missing journalist, jamal khashoggi. we have an update next. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you.
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new developments in the story we have been covering, the disappearance of the journalist, jamal khashoggi. president trump is addressing this morning calls for him to confront saudi arabia over what happened to khashoggi when he meant in went into the saudi consulate and never came out. >> i don't like it at all. now, you don't have american citizens, but that in this case doesn't matter. i don't like it. i don't like it with respect to reporters. it is a terrible,
terrible precedent. we can't let it happen and we're being very tough, and we have investigators over there and we're working with turkey and frankly we're working with saudi arabia to find out what happened. >> what's at stake? what's at stake with u.s.-saudi relations, sir. >> i would say they're excellent. saudi arabia is a very rich country. and for years and years -- there would be in saudi arabia if there wasn't the united states because we protected them. >> it couldn't be more complicated, john. he went farther just there in talking about this than he has for the past ten days since this journalist went missing. he acknowledged that he is a journalist, and this cannot happen. you can't silence or snuff out journalists, he seemed to be saying, those you disagree with.
that sounds like what happened with the crown prince because khashoggi was disagreeing with his policies. he said he's not a citizen, but he is a resident. >> today the president has been trying to avoid confronting the issue because relations are so close between the trump administration and the ruler of saudi arabia, which highlights the fact this is a big deal story. not just because of the moral outrage but because of big power politics. the trump administration all in supporting the 33-year-old crown prince. saudi has been a client of the united states, close relationship for a long time. but they now play a more central role in the trump administration's strategy for the entire middle east. there are military and deep personal relations. he has autocratic instincts. now they will be forced to confront that. if these reports are true, the
magnitsky act exists and that could lead to sanctions. >> this could be complicated even without interpersonal intertwining, which is already what's happening with the trump family and the crown prince. this would be complicated given all the ripple effect with iran and yemen. this would be complicated for any u.s. president. but add on top of it the trumps have become very close to this down prince. jared kushner has been socializing with him. has involved him in various deals. cukushner championed the prince when he was jockeying to be his father's heir. had dinner with him. promoted $110 billion weapons sale and hoped the king would put a stamp of approval of his peace plan. >> that is a multi-layered relationship. from trying to broker arms deals to drinks with the crown prince and partying on his yacht and
wherever else. but these relationships are deep and complicated. if the trump administration is forced by congress to confront saudi arabia about this act, it will have ripple effects. the u.s. has gotten involved in the border war with yemen. these relationships run deep. yet, the magnitsky act would require the administration to investigate and possibilily put sanctions. you heard the president say we don't want to mess with our arms deals. the question is does he see bigger principals at stake? >> the magnitsky act has gotten a lot of play because that was brought up during the trump tower meetings with russians. that was perhaps the rouse of why they were there or whatever. the russian lawyer wanted to talk about, she claimed. but now it comes into play because this bipartisan group of senators is demanding that president trump be more assertive and aggressive with
what to do about this. >> because if the u.s. doesn't take a strong stand -- and this is why the magnitsky act was passed. you have senators sending a letter to the president to invoke it. if they let this slide, an american resident allegedly murdered in a consulate in tur c turky, this would be terrible. so whatever personal and financial relationships there are, some principals need to trump those consideration. need to be consistent and clear, otherwise it is chaos out there. >> it does seem like the saudis are less concerned about u.s. views than ever before, both because they assume trump won't care and because they think they don't need u.s. approval. i mean, as though they are being emboldened. >> that's exactly right. that is the danger of these
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all right. john berman live in panama city, florida. you get a sense of the devastation behind me. this was a building that was simply pushed over and crushed into small bits by the force of hurricane michael. we're getting a sense from the sky now. you have drones up. you can see the devastation on the ground. it is extensive. joining me now by phone is republican senator from the state of florida, marco rubio. thanks so much for being with us. i know you have been watching all morning, getting a sense of just how bad the situation is, just how much damage was done. your reaction as you see these pictures? >> it takes me back to my second
year in college, 1992, and that's hurricane andrew came right through florida, south florida where i lived. some of these images just from the drones that have been put up this morning are reminiscent of some of that. obviously, we will learn more in the next few days. right now we are relying on the media, friends and colleges on the ground. look, i don't want to be breaking. but just from what i'm hearing from locals, panama city has catastrophic damage. someone told me, quote, mexico beach is gone. and this is going to take a lot of money and a lot of time to sort of rebuild and obviously the federal government is going to have to be a big part of it. i'm going to head to the headquarters of fema now to sort out all the particulars and fly into northwest florida and try to assess it myself. of course not getting in the
way. but i think we're only beginning to learn. this takes me back living through andrew myself and so you woke up -- i will never forget the initial reports were it's not so bad and the further south you got, the more you realized, oh, my goodness, this is a community altering event. >> you know, it is a reasonable comparison. hurricane andrew is a reasonable comparison because this storm made land fall two miles an hour short. the most powerful storm ever to hit the gulf coast and one of the most powerful ever to hit the united states, period. that may be the case down in mexico beach. we just don't have a sense yet of how bad that is. you just told us you have been hearing mexico beach is gone. but the wind damage that we're seeing here in panama city, and the amount of buildings and structures destroyed and the trees down everywhere, there was a wide scope of destruction around here. >> there is. and the rebuilding, of course, will be expensive because it
will be rebuilt to the new code we have in florida which is costlier, safer, but costlier than some buildings that might have been grandfathered in. panama city, panama city beach, more of a resort area. mexico beach a hidden gem, old florida. that's tough to rebuild. it takes time to bring that back up. it is not just property damage. it is economic damage. this is the life blood of the economies of these communities. it will be a wile before those industries will be producing revenues and jobs. what happened after andrew is people moved. a lot moved north and it's taken 20 odd years to recover. i just hope that's not the case here. obviously, we're concerned about it. but people are going to need to understand. this is not one of these things we will scoop up and pick up and turn this around in 48 hours. this is a multi-year recovery
effort. we got to rebuild the electric grid. this is not restoring power. from what i'm hearing this morning, they have to rebuild the electric grid based on some of the damage that's been described to me. >> yeah. again, it does look bad here. we are only beginning to be able to assess it. senator, we were speaking to people in the run up to this storm, but it seemed like people decided to stay even though there were the warnings that came up quickly. but they were given three days notice. are you concerned that people are becoming jaded, almost numb to the calls to evacuate? >> i don't think so. i think what happens often, especially in the florida keys is a good example. you have folks that have been there a long time. generations. you got families that have been there for three or four generations. their view of it is i have lived through storms before. i can live through this one. there is another factor, which we need to take into account.
there is some people that just can't. they don't have a car. or they're not in physical condition to evacuate or they have pets they're not going to leave behind. there are people that they're not leaving because they are stubborn. they cannot leave. and i'm fearful about that part, too. that is a vulnerability that irma exposed in some areas. i hope as the day goes on we don't learn stories about people that didn't leave because they couldn't afford to. that's a vulnerability we have that needs to be addressed. it's one of the lessons of irma. hopefully not a big factor in this one. it is clearly something that needs to be addressed. >> senator r, you lived through these storms yourself. you are on your way down here. thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. stay safe. you know, you have heard the reports coming in. not good.
not good. we need to hear from these communities along the coast that were close tore the highest wind speeds and the greater wind surge. what we are seeing is frightening enough. we have been looking at this building behind me all morning which was a grocery and office space. i think we have a picture of what it did look like before. this was a building. this was a cinder block sturdy looking building. it did not and could not withstand the force of this hurricane. >> john, it is incredible to look at these images that we just found from google earth because that looks like a standard shopping center, regular building. and the idea that that was 24 hours ago and that's what you are standing in front of now. that just incredible debris field we are looking at behind you, that tells the whole story right there of how hard it will be for all of these people to rebuild. >> yeah. and it's not just this story.
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site. good morning, olivia. >> good morning. >> okay. so you were working on a story about chief of staff john kelly. you had been doing interviews at the white house. you left the white house and you noticed the missed call from sara sanders. then what happened? >> i had not yet walked out of the gate. i was on the kind of walkway leading to the gate when i noticed the missed call. and when i called back, sarah huckabee sanders asked me to return to the white house to her office and she sounded very serious. i just assumed i was in trouble for something. i assumed somebody was mad at me. i went back there, and she looked very serious. and then she led me into the oval office and said that the president wanted to speak with me. there was really no time to prepare for game it out. >> and you write, i'll just read a portion of this, the president said to you, i just heard you were doing a story on this stuff. general kelly is doing a very good job. we have a very good relationship. the white house is running very, very smoothie.
i'm very happy with him. we have a very good relationship, number one. >> are you convinced yet? >> yes, i am. the lady doth protest a lot here. i didn't talk to anybody else about the job, and i'm not looking. that's fine. he wanted to say his peace. he wanted to say what he felt was reali reality. then what happened? >> it just kept happening. he kept me there. i think the whole interview was 21 minutes. while we were sitting there, vice president mike pence came in. john kelly came in. mike pompeo came in. although, he was on the schedule to have lunch with the president. several other people came into the room also. the chief of staff to mike pence who i was reporting on in part. it was just sort of a procession of special guest stars. it was very strange. >> okay. hold on a second because this is where it gets particularly
bizarre. because i think the impression in the united states is that perhaps the president and the vice president and the secretary of state and the head of communications and the chief of staff might have something better to do than to school a reporter for half an hour. >> well, look, i'm not mad about it. any time that we can get top officials in our government on the record in a context like that, i think it's very good for democracy and very good for all of us in the media, and i hope that it happens more often. if you look at what the president has been doing with the press recently, he has been, i think, more visible than he was in the past. this morning i believe he was on the phone with fox news, which isn't exactly a hard hitting interview usually, but he did speak, i believe, to the washington post. he has been doing more outside at the white house. i think that's overall a good thing. the more he's on the record the
better. >> for you and i, it's a good thing. >> he may have more important things to do technically. >> u.s.-saudi relations seem to be on the front burner or should be at the moment. but just the idea that all of that brain power and just that power base was all focussed on getting you to report in the way that they want you to report is just a head scratcher. >> it was very strange. mike pompeo, in fairness, was just sitting on the couch and not too involved in this. i'm sure he was as confused as i was. >> i was going to ask you about the atmosphere because when john kelly came in, who your article is about and who the president was trying to disabuse you of your position that at times they don't get along, how bizarre was that? >> it was strange.
i mean, he -- when we first interacted, like, he did not know there was an article being written, that he was not familiar with whatever was happening in that room. i found that a little hard to believe. it was very awkward. the president asked him if he was a great husband. the president said he was. >> breaking news. okay. that's great. the article is great. people can read it in the intelligence no, sew york magaz. cnn's breaking coverage of hurricane michael's destruction and the aftermath will pick up right after this break.
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