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and neck. he is a trump republican and she is t is an african-american who could become the first female governor of georgia. >> brian kemp's getting the support of all kind of hard working people across georgia and stacey abrams is being bankrolled by hollywood liberals, sending their support into the state and some come into the state. like i heard oprah's in town today. and i heard will ferrell was going door to door the other day. well, i'd like to remind stacey and oprah and willferrell, i'm
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kind of a big deal, too. and i got a message for all of stacey abrams' liberal hollywood friends. this ain't hollywood. this is georgia. >> we as women people need to stand united and vote our values. vote your values. vote your conscience. all this noise, all the noise, all the noise, you just can't get away from it. you turn on the tv. it's so much noise and crazy talk. all the vitriol in the ads, you know what, they are designed to confuse and confound you with fear. that's what they're doing. they're designed to confound you with fear. they are not designed for people with discernment. women people, we have discernment. when we all unite, i know for sure a change is going to come.
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so i'm here today to support a change maker. she's a woman who dared believe that she could change the state of georgia. >> let's go to georgia, in decatur, where stacey abrams' next event will soon get under way. what else did oprah say? >> reporter: as soon as she took the stage, she told the georgia voters in the audience, you are on the precipice of an historic election. she connected with the audience in a way in a oprah is uniquely capable of doing. she said her decision to come here was personal because she feels stacey abrams and her values were aligned. so she called stacey abrams and said she wanted to come here and stand by her side. as you see oprah come down here, among the many big names that
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both candidates are getting down here, you understand the national attention, the national focus and investment that this race is getting because here in georgia, you don't just need a plurality to win, you need a majority. you need 50 plus one. that's why you see someone like oprah, this transcendent and inspirational personality coming down here to plead with voters here, to exercise their right to vote and to cast their vote for stacey abrams. oprah said she is a registered independent. she said i am an independent woman, i do what i want, i do when i want, i have earned that right. she encouraged women of all colors to do the same. here in georgia there excitement about this race, some energy. but you're seeing it from both sides, from vice president pence down the road. >> meantime president trump has a jam-packed campaign schedule,
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one of ten rallies over the next couple of days. before he leaves, he is announcing changes to his asylum policy for those arriving at the u.s. border. let's go to boris sanchez. what are those changes? >> reporter: the administration appears to be trying to make it tougher for asylum seekers to apply for asylum. the president is said to propose a change to a rule today that would make it so migrants would have to apply for asylum at legal ports of entry and not if they are intercepted by law enforcement trying to enter the country or if they are already in the united states illegally. it's not the first time the administration has tried to change the process or criteria for asylum seekers. in the summer attorney general jeff sessions announced that the baseline criteria would change so that victims of gang violence or domestic violence would no longer be able to apply for asylum. the timing of this, of course,
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is notable. not only because the president has railed and rallied against this caravan of migrants getting close to the united states, who are still more than a month away but of course the midterm elections are just in five days and the president is seeking to make this a central issue, not only going after the migrants in that caravan but the democrats, who he suggests have an open border policy. the president is trying to make a closing argument for the 2018 midterms, essentially the same argument he made in 2015, his opening argument when he called mexicans rapists and thieves, brooke. >> he did indeed. boris sanchez, thank you. when it comes to talk of immigration, the president has hit a new low. he has tweeted this new political ad being called the most racist campaign message seen in a generation. once again trump is focusing on
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undocumented immigrants. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> for the record, the ad singles out a convicted murderer who did receive the death penalty. regarding the caravan shown in this ad, our cnn crews on the ground reported mothers and children among many others seeking haven. my guest once chaired the florida party. al, always a pleasure to see you. welcome. >> thank you, brooke. likewise. tough day, tough day. >> let's get to that.
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you obviously saw the ad and jumped straight to twitter. you wrote "you are a despicable divider, the worst social poison to afflict our country in decades. this ad and your full approval of it will condemn you and your bigoted legacy forever in america's history books." al, i know you've since deleted that tweet but, wow. tell me about the feeling, the passion, the anger behind those words. >> i deleted the tweet because i've been pleading for lowering the tngensions on both sides of the aisle given the violence we're seeing in america in so many different ways, but it doesn't destruct from my feelings. the truth is i've never seen a community under attack like i've seen it now. we started out with the 1,500 parents that were torn away from
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their little babies, little children who were sent to cages, 500 some have never been re reunited again, the president saying he's going to send 10,000 to 15,000 troops to the border and, what, to face these armless women and children and people, weakened by 4,000 kilometers of travel? for what? if they apply for asylum, are not granted asylum, that's one thing. but to have this kind of show of force to, you know, to intimidate people in america, this issue about children born in our country not having a right to citizenship, this video now. i mean, i know of thousands of cases of people who are stopped at shopping centers and abused verbally and otherwise by others. what's going on in our country now, we're going back to the 50s and 60s in terms of civil
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rights. >> do you think trump just doesn't care about being called a racist? his eyes are on the prize, he wants more votes. >> you know, i don't know what's in his heart, but i haven't seen a word of compassion. but my concern is this kind of conversation, this kind of rhetoric is leading to violence in our country. it leading to divisiveness. it's making us the worst we can possibly be instead of the best we can be. it was never this way before. leaders in both parties knew their boundaries. there are no boundaries with this white house. and it hasn't stopped. the violence continues. it gets worse. i don't know where this will end but this is just pathetic and, frankly, i'm so saddened and angered at the same time. i fear for those facing the
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consequences. the voting by hispanics in this election is going to be depressed because of fear of going to the polls, fear of what they're going to confront, fear of intimidation maybe by officers and it's being felt all over my community. >> flash forward with me, al, to next wednesday morning. day after the election. all this talk, you know, leading up about the caravan and to quote the president, bad thugs and invaders will turn to this. you hear that? it's the sound of silence. it the sound of silence because i'm going to bet you that those warnings will fade and instead get ready for more attacks on robert mueller and the media. do you agree? >> i agree. i agree with that. you know, it's a matter of what he thinks will rile up shrinking troops, frankly. between you and i in purple
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states like florida, i don't get the rhetoric. and, frankly, there are 60 spots in the congress that are in very close race, most in purple house seats, some in south florida. how do you think that rhetoric's going to play? it's almost like he's giving up the house of representatives in order to make a personal point. and i don't get the politics. i don't get the divisiveness. i don't get what he's doing. we're more likely going to have -- it's 80% chance republicans will keep the senate, 80% chance the democrats will keep the house. how we move forward the next couple of years will depend in a great part on how the president reacts. i don't think at his age and under his circumstances he's going to change. and i'm concerned for america. >> al cardenas, thank you for your candor. >> thank you, brooke. thank you. >> coming up next, we're getting
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our first look at some of the e-mails exchanged between roger stone and steve bannon during the 2016 presidential campaign and what about them might be of interest it the special counsel? we'll pass that along. and new details on how journalist jamal khashoggi was murdered. "the wall street journal" reports his body may have been dissolved in acid. and the fda approving the first medical marijuana drug to come to market. we have details on what condition it will help treat. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. st robot vacuum is no exception. from floors to carpets, it tackles all kinds of debris, even pet hair, with ease. but what about cleaning above the floor? that's why we created the shark ion robot cleaning system, our innovative robot vacuum paired with a built-in powerful shark handheld. the shark ion robot cleaning system. one dock, two sharks. cleaning on a whole new level.
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we are sorting through all kinds of developments that can further tie the trump campaign insiders like roger stone and
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steve bannon to the wikileaks campaign. let's go to kara scannell. >> it seemed to preempt "the new york times" story. based on that e-mail exchange, we understand that this is really the first indication that roger stone was in touch with any senior members of the trump campaign about wikileaks. bannon is following up asking him what was going on. our understanding according to a person familiar with the
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investigation is that mueller's team has copies of these e-mails and at least one campaign official has told investigators that roger stone was telling them, telling other campaign officials that he had ties to julian assange. this is really the first link that we know the trump campaign was giving the impression or being told by stone he had links. roger stone maintained anything he was telling people about this was already public and he was just echoing what wikileaks and assange had said publicly. we know mueller's team has been bringing in all of stone's associates in the last couple of weeks and steve bannon was in just last friday, brooke. >> it sounds like from paul's question to you, in this e-mail exchange that we have that roger stone was boasting, right, that
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he would have this e-mail dump. how did they determine -- who did prosecutors determine whether it was bluster or it was the real deal? >> they'll find out by eventually trying to interview roger stone. they already have interviewed bannon on a number of occasions. i'll tell you, brooke, it also makes me wonder if mueller isn't reaching out to julian assange to see if there's information there. remember, if the special prosecutor could establish there there was coordination between assange and the trump campaign to release hacked e-mails, e-mails that had been hand by the russians, that's the direct collusion case if the trail leads back to the trump campaign. so this raise as number of intrigues lines of investigation for mueller. >> so if they are based upon
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interviews and maybe even an interview with stone and they put the pieces to the and they do establish that he had been in touch and that he did have these e-mails, what happens legally moving forward? >> well, it really depends on how that went down. one of the things that surprised me about what's in these e-mails is that roger stone is discussing with bannon and bannon says haven't the clintons made a deal with julian assange? what's that all about? if bannon thinks the clinton campaign made a deal with assange, that would suggest no deal has been made by trump, but there's a second thing that is important as well. roger stone talks about he's raised $150,000 to do a black digital campaign, and you have to wonder is this coordination going on between roger stone and bannon, who at that time was
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chairman of the trump campaign. if roger stone is operating as a free agent or as somebody in a pack that's unreported, that could be some kind of a campaign violation, if that's true. so you know that mueller is probably looking very carefully at that angle as well. >> we'll stay on that for sure. paul and kara, thank you both so much on that update regarding roger stone. next up, these gruesome new details on how whitey bulger was murdered inside a west virginia maximum security prison. hear what happened in his final moments and who could be responsible. benjamin franklin captured lightening in a bottle. over 260 years later, with a little resourcefulness, ingenuity, and grit, we're not only capturing energy from the sun and wind, we're storing it. as the nation's leader in energy storage, we're ensuring americans have the energy they need, whenever they need it.
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we now know how notorious mobster james "whitey" bulger died inside a maximum federal prison. he was beaten to death that he was so unrecognizable. sources say several inmates were involved, at least one of them has mafia ties. "the new york times" cites law enforcement sources saying they walked into bulger's cell, rolled his chair away from security cameras and beat him with a padlock stuffed inside a sock. and they report they tried to cut out his tongue.
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the "times" and "boston globe" quote sources saying that suspected inmate with ties to the mafia is a notorious hitman who was relocated into solitary confinement after bulger's murder. with me, the former attorney who runs represented that very same inmate. daniel, welcome to you. you tell me about this history between bulger and your former client and how deep it goes. >> well, they didn't have any actual physical interaction prior to mr. gias entering the prison system but they had a lot of mutual friends who interacted. i'll put it that way. >> define interacted. >> well, they're involved in criminal activity, so they ran in the same circles and new people involved in criminal activity, both with each other. >> so what i read about gias, he
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hated a rat, hated an informant. dunk he would have been capable of murdering whitey bulger? >> he's there serving two life sentences because of a cooperator, someone that was very close to him cooperated again him. so he probably had a lot of reasons to not be very happy with people like mr. bulger. i'm not willing to concede based on media reports he's been involved. >> you talked to him a couple of days before bulger's death. what did you talk about? >> we talked about the weather, sports, football. he's a big new england patriots football fan, rather innocuous things given what he's been
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accused of recently. >> given the history you described between gias and bulger and given that gias was already in prison in hazelton, do you think officials made a mistake by sending bulger there? should they have known better, thinking perhaps disaster was around the corner? >> they absolutely should have. that prison is high security and it's a particularly dangerous one. mr. bulger was the third person to die this year. it really only houses about 1,500, 1,600 people. however, a lot of them are hardened killers. it's extremely violent, dangerous environment. it didn't make sense to put someone who had a long history as cooperating informer into that environment. >> it's been said that bulger requested to be housed in
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general population. why would the prison system have allowed that to happen, just knowing who he was? >> it really defies logic. someone who was not just an informant but a fairly notorious one for such a long, long time was bound to have enemies probably anywhere, in any facility in the country. the idea that they could put him in such a violent environment and that he would be able to make, it's pretty unusual to think that. as it turns out, he made it only a couple of hours. >> sounds like a lot of questions for the prison system. daniel kelly, thank you very much. >> coming up next, the investigation into the killing of jamal khashoggi. we'll take you to turkey live in moments. (vo) this is not a video game.
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new horrific details about what may have happened to "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi after he entered the saudi consulate in turkey last month. his body still has not been found. officials believe his body may have been dissolved in acid after he was first strangled and then dismembered. saudi officials have changed their story several times about what happened to him, only recently acknowledging turkish evidence that concludes the journalist killing was premeditated.
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jomana, what are you hearing about what happened? >> reporter: over the past few weeks we've been trying to piece together what happened. this has been based on the drip feed of leaks we've been getting here. you've had the shifting saudi narrative. but for the first time the chief official came out with a statement, the most detailed account of what took place on october the 2nd. they say this was a premeditated act, something we've heard from turkish officials. they're saying almost immediately after khashoggi entered the building, he was strangled to death, his body then dismembered and destroyed. "the washington post" speaking to a senior turkish official reporting one theory the turkish authorities are pursuing is the possibility that acid may have
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been used to dispose, destroy his body, either at the consulate or nearby consul's residence. we've been speaking to a number of turkish officials and they say that this is one of a number of theories that they're looking at, and that is why they are really pressing the saudis for answers. they are quite frustrated at this point with what they're saying is this lack of cooperation from the saudis. they say they've put forward, brooke, these pretty straight forward questions of where are the remains of khashoggi and who ordered the killing, who dispatched that hit squad that carried out the killing and they're not getting the answers. the chief prosecutor for saudi arabia was here for three days, and turkey was hoping they're going to get answers from him. they did not. one senior turkish official is telling us that it seemed to them that the saudis were not really interested in cooperating. it seemed like they were more
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keen on finding out what evidence turkey has, brooke. >> i cannot imagine what this family is going through. they just want their father's body. jomana in istanbul, thank you. meantime, two huge events we're waiting for. five days to go until the midterms. the vice president and oprah getting ready to face off in georgia in the nail biter race for governor. and the president unleashes ploy after ploy to rev up his voters. stand by.
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the two main candidates vying to become georgia's next governor relying on huge names, major star power today to help push them over the finish line. you have vice president mike pence in augusta, georgia, getting ready to headline a second rally for republican brian kemp. and oprah has been campaigning for democrat stacey abrams, who hopes to become the nation's first black female governor. i had a chance to go to stacey abrams' home in atlanta back in june as part of my digital series american women in politics. we started with one of the biggest critics from republicans, her opponent, her debt. you talk about owing $50,000 in back taxes, $170,000 in credit card and student loan debt. that's $200,000 roughly. critics are saying she wants to run the state's economy and she
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can't control her own finances. to them you would say? >> i am responsible for my parents, for my niece and for my grandmother. having grown up in dire straits, i understand how important it is to have a leader who can make the chounss to make sure everything gets taken care of. i think that poverty is an moral, that it's economically -- i think the opportunity to make things better is always there. >> i'm brian kemp. i'm so conservative i blow up government spending. >> reporter: your opponent -- >> i own guns that no one's taking away. >> reporter: white republican male. i saw ads talking about big trucks, deporting undocumented immigrants, chain saws ready to rip up regulations. is georgia ready for you? >> absolutely. i come to this race understanding that our diversity is a strength.
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and, no, i am not like what has preceded me, i look very different. but that difference is about my experiences, and my sympathy and empathy for the communities who need a voice. >> oprah today, former president barack obama tomorrow, campaigning in georgia for stacey abrams. kemp just backed out of georgia's final governor's debate. with me now, laura bassett, a senior politics reporter for the huffington post. she was been covering this contentious and fascinating race. good to see you. >> good to see you. the fact that kemp bailed on this debate. it had been on the books for six weeks to fully embrace the president, who has his own star power. what do you think that was really about? >> i think he didn't want to debate stacey again because i don't think it would have been good for his campaign. he knows he's under a lot of fire for his voter suppression
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efforts, facing multiple lawsuits and he didn't want to answer those questions. it's much better for him to stand up next to trump and be that caricature of the southern white boy, that he thinks my galvanize white voters. >> to see oprah in marietta, georgia campaigning for the woman who would be the first black female governor, never would have thought that would have happened 20 years ago, ten years ago. what do you have make of this today? >> i think it wild. of course it's significant that oprah has come down to georgia and that trump and pence have come to georgia. they know the polls are razor thing, it's an absolutely historic race. i think what's more significant than oprah is the ground game for stacey is made up of poor women, working class, urban
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women, domestic workers, women of color, more than 300 of them knocking on doors to turn out people of color for stacey. maybe oprah will lend star power to this, but we should focus on the houses that work all day. >> i also took a trip down to alabama to focus on all these black women who are running for office, this historic number of black women. in doing so, i went because they were so inspired by the win of the first democrat senator in alabama in over two decades and who brought that win home, black women. you see how they showed up then for that special election? >> black women are an organizing force. they are delivering elections right now for the democrats. they've always been ra this is a very strong community of women. they're fierce. i spent some time with them in
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atlanta a couple weeks ago. they do not take a night off. maybe they take sunday off, but i saw them knocking on doors of houses that had confederate flags in the yard. i saw white people try continue to tim date them with dogs in the back seat, taking photos of their license plates and these women just were not fazed. they said we're domestic workers and we're here to let you know about a very strong candidate of color. i think what people don't realize is georgia had democratic governors up until 2002. the reason is flipped to the a red state is because of the controversy over the confederate flag. so the idea that a black woman could win in a state like georgia right now exciting coming up next, it's a first for the fda, the agency has just
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approved the first medical marijuana drug to come to market, and it could be life-changing for some patients. sanjay gupta joins me live. but, first, let's take a moment for a segment we call mighty millenials highlighting a new generation of political candidates and this year an unprecedented number of millenials are running in state legislative races. according to axios it's about 700 in total. most are democrats like 33-year-old emily randall, the first in her family to graduate college. randall is running for state senate in washington's 26th district after working in healthcare for a decade. but over in washington's 28th district, a 29-year-old latina has become a rising republican star. she is maya espinosa, an elementary school and music teacher and small business opener, and four years ago she founded the center for latina leadership to provide an avenue for latina voices so that they can be heard in state government. mighty millenials. we'll be right back.
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now to some big medical news. the first prescription drug made from marijuana is now available. as of today in all 50 states. this drug is approved to treat two types of severe epilepsy that begin in early childhood, and cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has been following the development of this drug for years and the families who have waited for it to become available. >> reporter: in 2013, i first
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realized the possibility of marijuana as a medicine when i met charlotte and her mother paige. >> it's okay, baby. >> reporter: this is charlotte in the throes of a seizure. nothing made them stop, until they tried cbd, a compound found in cannabis. >> i measured it with a syringe and squirted it under her tongue. she didn't have a seizure that day, and then she didn't have a seizure that night. i just thought this is insane. >> reporter: it worked for charlotte, and so many other children. but at the time parents were forced to concoct the medicine in their kitchen sinks, unsure of the dosing or the purity. >> okay. so we just add more oil then or do we add more weed. >> reporter: good parents who would do anything to try and help their children. like john and donna. their daughter jonna, named after both of them, also had unstoppable seizures since she was a year old. >> they did not give us a lot of hope, you know, for her future.
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>> reporter: at one point doctors even told them to start looking for hospice care. >> we wound up moving over her -- her neurological care over to nyu because they were doing the cannabis oil study at the time, and we wanted to participate in that. >> reporter: that cannabis oil study was the beginning of the trial for treatment resistant epilepsy. the doctor oversaw the trial at nyu. >> some of the kids right now, their lives were completely transformed. they went from having hundreds of small seizures a day, kind of sitting in a heel chair slumped over with almost no interaction with the environment to being seizure-free. their lives were transformed. >> from the first time we had an eeg recording sewing she was having over 100 seizures a day, the last eeg we did at nyu showed one seizure over a 24-hour period. >> reporter: the dr. will be the first to tell you the drug is not a miracle drug, far from it. while some have had dramatic
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improvements, others had no improvement at all, and there is the pesky fact that cannabis is still considered an illegal substance by the united states government. >> it's my view that the use of marijuana is detrimental. >> reporter: in fact, the company making the drug is not based in the united states but in the uk. >> wow. this is pretty spectacular. >> reporter: dr. jeffrey guy is the founder and chairman of gw pharmaceuticals, the maker of the drug. i visited the labs outside of london. this is where they turn the plant into a medicine. >> we're able to say what each individual cannabinoid does. we can then breed into the plant the materials that will provide us with a range of beneficial effects. >> reporter: the price tag for all of this, $32,500 a year. so far jonna has been receiving the medication through a clinical trial. her parents hope insurance will
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cover the cost going forward. >> i think everyone who has a child with significant medical needs is always hoping for a miracle, but in lieu of that i think we just want her to keep, you know, moving and making steady progress as she has been. >> sanjay, i mean, this is a huge deal. >> no question. i mean, look, five years ago people wouldn't have imagined we'd be at this point now where you have an fda-approved drug and what's interesting, brooke, typically the science comes first and then the cultural changes and social changes and legal changes. here this was all driven by, you know, mainly concerned parents who said not only does this stuff seem to work, it's the only thing that works, and, you know, we need to do something about it, so five years later you have this day. >> it doesn't come cheap. now that it's fda-approved and available by prescription what, options do families have to get this covered?
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>> it's really expensive. and, i mean, that's outrageous in terms of how prohibitively expensive it's going to be. we talked to the pharmaceutical company about this saying look, we're going to create a situation where anyone who needs it. they will be able to get it and provide assistance and that's a problem and, you know, maybe as more people use this and other indications for this come about, the price will come down, but that's -- that's a big barrier still along with the fact that cbd is still considered illegal in this country so you have this -- this balance that still needs to be figured out. >> 30 seconds. are there more marijuana drugs on the horizon? >> the form suit call company, again, says that there are. they are coming up with other formulations and indications, diseases that they think that they can treat. you also have, you know, people who have been working in the cbd world a long time outside of pharma, more on the supplemental side like charlotte's web there.
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>> dr. sanjay gupta, a pleasure to see you sir. >> thank you. >> thank you very much and thanks for become me. i'm brooke baldwin here in new york. let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with breaking news in the politics lead and a closing argument from president trump, one that is inflammatory and divisive and based in fear, and that's according to republicans. quote, let's face it. we all know what's happening. that's what republican senator bob corker told "the tennesseean" newspaper about president trump's mid--term election focus on undocumented immigrants coming into the u.s. corker adding, quote, it's all about revving up the base using fear to stimulate people to come out at the polls. now, we're five days out from the