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>> chaos broke out. police say an altercation ex-calculated into a shooting. a police officer shot and killed 21-year-old fitzgerald bradford jr., an armed man police originally believed was responsible for the shooting and now they say he was not the man who fired shots and now the search is on for the actual gunman. what is a very confusing incident overall. but there's a lot of discrepancies. >> in the last hour, we've been trying to get some of these answers from law enforcement. we haven't heard back from them yet. the last thing we heard from hoover police was a statement they released overnight. in that statement, they said our department does not typically issue statements during an internal investigation but there
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was information discussed with local media last night that merits update. the initial report was two men had gotten into a fight of some kind at the mall that resulted in a 21-year-old shooting an unarmed 18-year-old. the update now says the 21-year-old identified as bradford jr. may have been involved in some aspect but he likely did not fire the round that injured the 18-year-old victim. bradford did flee the scene, brandishing his weapon. that's when a police officer working as mall security shot and killed him. so there's someone out there. police say they believe there were more than two people involved in the initial fight with at least one gunman still at large who could be responsible for the 18-year-old shooting victim as well as the 12-year-old girl caught in the cross fire. she was taken to the hospital. we learned bradford had enlisted
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but did not complete his training. they say he was somehow involved. the last we heard is the officer involved is on administrative leave as they figure out what happened here. >> lets talk more about this. good to see you. police say the man they shot and killed was not responsible for the shooting. >> there's a lot of questions. we all know how chaotic these incidents are. especially on thanksgiving day. one of the bigger shopping days, you know, besides black friday. and, you know, when you listen to the witness statements, the chaos in that mall was unbelievable. you listen to the handheld video from the camera phone and you hear a lot of rounds going off. knowing how these laws operate
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and this mall is owned by a place called brookfield properties out of chicago, illinois and they own or manage 162 malls in 42 states. security is generally the same. so there's cameras everyone in these locations. after reviewing this video is when law enforcement went ahead and changed the statement they made initially right after the incident occurred. >> is that generally the sequence? wouldn't they want to view the video first before revealing and sharing a name of someone who might be a suspect and then come to find out they're not? i wonder if this was avoidable in misidentifying somebody. >> it probably was avoidable but this particular individual shot and killed did have some involvement. we don't know if he legally owned the firearm. but i'm pretty sure based on the
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video, you have both within the mall and externally, they'll be able to track who was involved in this altercation and figure out exactly where they went. you've got multiple agencies involved now. you've got the alabama law agency which has now taken over the investigation which is good because you have a third party law enforcement agency conducting this officer involved shooting. this was probably avoidable if they went and looked at the video. sometimes the press puts a lot of pressure on for a statement right away and this could have been the case here in this particular instance. >> all right, art rodderic, thank you. in part, angry protests have turned violent. police are using a tear gas and
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water cannon as thousands protest. protesters are also venting their anger over french president macron's environmental policies. the average price of gas in paris is already more than $5.50 per gallon. officials say two people have died in the unrest that began last week. cnn senior international correspondent jim bittermann is in paris. behind you are lots of lights because people have started to celebrate the holiday season but you also have lots of unrest behind you as well. >> a lot of demonstrators. this is usually the signal to the shopping season here when they lit the lights but today there certainly weren't many shoppers evident in the crowd. basically these protests, these yellow vests, who basically have started off protesting rising gas prices.
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now it's been more generalized. generalized into rising prices, rising cost of living, diminished pension plan contributions and things like that that people are against. a lot of people came out in the streets. they estimated 80,000 across france that came out. 20,000 or so here in paris. along the streets, police have had a running battle going all day long with the demonstrators here. now it's just after 6:00 here. they basically have been fighting the demonstrators all day long. now in the last hour, police made a massive assault using a lot of vehicles. they came down the avenue and basically swept away the demonstrators. it appears all but about 100 or so who are just below me here have disappeared and gone home i suspect at this hour.
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>> jim bittermann, thank you so much, in paris. straight ahead, a dire warning from government sign tichts. a new report facing a grim picture of premature deaths and harsh economic circumstances. how will the president respond? plus, a migrant caravan nears the u.s. border. new authority to use legal force. a migraine hope
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it is frightening and it screams serious action has to be taken now. it is the work of federal agencies and the scientific community. the report makes it clear that we are already experiencing the dangerous effects of climate change. it's only going to get longer. burning six times more forest area per year by the year 2050. more people will be exposed to ticks that carry lime disease. allergy season will be a lot worse. higher temperatures will also kill more people. it specifically looks at the midwest. it is predicted to have the largest increase in extreme temperature. according to the report, it will see premature deaths. and the cost, that's going to be a big one. the cost of climate change according to the report could reach hundreds of billions of
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dollars annually. by midcentury, it says it is very likely that the arctic will be nearly free of sea ice in late summer. this was a congressionally mandated report, released by the trump administration the day after the thanksgiving holiday when people are distracted. the release time really sparking controversy and speculation it is being buried on a day when few people will pay attention. also one day after the president tweeted, quoting, brutal and extended cold blast could shatter all records. whatever happened to global warning? that tweet ill staustrates trum lack of understanding on the issue. as we know, climate change is
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best exemplified by the consistent rise of temperatures year over year. rene marsh, cnn, washington. straight ahead, president trump says troops stationed at the southern border can use lethal force to protect themselves and border patrol agents. ♪ bum bum bum bum bum wait, wait, wait. this is incredible. yeah, it's an incredible deal. this weekend join t-mobile and get the awesome iphone xr, on us. it has an amazing camera. and it comes in all those colors! so, when they join t-mobile, we give them the iphone xr? it's the holidays. we've gotta go big. it's too much! i can't bear it! tell me you went with the bear head just for the pun? maybe. this weekend join t-mobile and get the iphone xr on us. ♪ bum bum bum bum bum
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force against approaching migrants if those troops are threatened. he made the stunning announcement during a thanksgiving call to members of the u.s. military. >> if they have to, they're going to use lethal force. i've given the okay. i hope they don't have to. but, you know, you're dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals. i'm not going to let the military be taken care of. i have no choice. do i want that to happen? absolutely not. but you're dealing with rough people. >> with me now is an attorney and a former chair for the dc democratic party. also with me, alice stewart. happy thanksgiving weekend. this order certainly steps up the rhetoric about the migrant caravan. if troops use lethal force against migrants. this is what the president is calling for in this signed
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memorandum. it's really not that simple, is it? >> it's not. the memorandum clearly states to protect the border. the mission of the troops there is for a couple purposes. general mattis has made it clear he doesn't intent to arm these troops being used for this purpose with guns which would help minimize any kind of disturbance and possibly something that would get out of hand. there's been some direct orders from the white house. some of the specifics are by general mattis. i trust him to do what needed to be done at the border. this is not a surprise that we are where we are. trump made it clear while he was campaigning that he does intend to security the border. all of this he has been executing, it's not just in his power to do so, it's his responsibility in order to protect the citizens and
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military and law enforcement on the border. >> but scott, already on the books, there are protections in place for u.s. troops if they're not to enforce, you know, u.s. law. but this memorandum, does this change the role of these u.s. troops or allow for an opening to potentially change the rules of engagement here? >> absolutely, uc lyabsolutely,c alone and then the document. it doesn't just cloud the issue it creates a dangerous environment. now you have authorization to use lethal force. that's on the judgment of these soldiers that are there. these 500 dangerous people aren't dangerous. they're coming here for the american dream. if some are dangerous, the presence of the military there could exacerbate the situation. it's a bad mix. why create that bad mix? instead of the soldiers being
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there, why don't you hire contractors to support border control? it's just a scare tactic. it will backfire if those immigrant s start being shot by these soldiers for whatever reason. >> the president also, you know, using that thanksgiving call not just to say that, you know, troops would be, you know, used to protect the border in that manner but also talking about targeting, you know, the ninth circuit and he talked about how he doesn't necessarily trust the rule of law. listen. >> we get a lot of bad court decisions from the ninth sir cut which has become a big thorn in our side. it's a terrible thing when judges take over your protective services. when they tell you how to protect your border. it's a shame.
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it's a disgrace. essentially they're legislating. >> so alice, help people understand, what is he doing, attacking federal courts on a local -- on a federal level and, you know, on all the lower levels particularly of courts below the u.s. supreme court? >> simply put, he's attacking them because he views their decision as an attack on him and he has always said if you punch me, i'm going to punch back ten times harder. that's exactly what the case is here with the ninth circuit overturning recent actions of the administration with regard to immigrants coming into this country. clearly it's frustrating for him. he wants to make sure that we immediately -- >> isn't the issue the president doesn't know the law? and the courts are reinforcing the law and making rulings based
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on that, is that really an issue of attacking the president? >> look, this is their interpretation of the law but if you look at the statute, it says if the government deems people coming into this country as a danger he does by proclamation have the authority to take action for a people pressure period of time if he feels they're a threat to the country. that's exactly why he's taking action. >> based on what though? some whim in his head he thinks they are dangerous because he's described them as dangerous? here's the bottom line. that decision that was rendered by a judge in the ninth circuit made it clear an executive order cannot be repugnant or overturned with the statute in arrays. because otherwise it would be inconsistent. but his executive order is
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contrary to fundamental law. the ninth circuit is telling him he can't do it by executive order and that is a huge difference. he's attacking the circuit, not even the decisions. if you don't like the decision, you ought to send them something that's rooted in law and not rooted in a whim or just because you want to make a political statement to your core 35%. >> it is important to note while we see a lot of video and images, our own dhs officials have said there's a certain element of criminals in the caravan. mexico counterparts have said the same. it just takes one to cause a serious concern on the part of the president and that's why he's taking action. he takes information directly from people in mexico and here in the states. >> all it sakes is one military
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officer to misread a situation. all it takes is one soldier to make a mistake with the authorization to shoot and you've got a disaster. this president is dangerous with these executive orders and the only butcher is the judiciary, in the ninth circuit. the sixth circuit are overturned far more than the ninth circuit. it's got those border states. arizona, california and nevada. you're going to get a lot of them there but the president doesn't understand the system. >> thanks to both of you. still ahead, an associate of roger stone says he's negotiating a plea deal with mueller. could this be a problem for the president? introducing e*trade personalized investments
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and the hacked democratic e-mail they dumped to the campaign. this does come after corsi himself said just last week he expected to be indicted by mueller for allegedly lying. take a listen. >> the entire negotiations of discussions is just blowing up. i fully anticipate i will be indicted by mueller for some form or other of giving false information to the special counsel or to one of the other grand jury or however they want to do the indictment. i'm going to be criminally charged. >> many people have not heard of corsi but the special counsel's office is interested in him because of his possible role as an intermediary.
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corsi claims he came up with what he called a prediction that podesta's e-mails would be released right before the election. and that prediction turned out to be true. corsi denies he had any ties to or any sources inside wikileaks. stone has responded to news of this plea deal on the radio and denied corsi told him the podesta e-mails would be stolen and then public. >> i'm unaware of any plea bargaining. other than to say the assertion that corsi knew in advance that john podesta's e-mails had been abstained and published would be news to me. this idea that corsi could implicate me? there's simply no evidence.
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>> stone said corsi is under a tremendous amount of pressure and is being asked to say things he does not believe occurred. >> all right, let's talk more about all this with krp legal analyst shan woo. so corsi announced that he might be indicted. now apparently he's in the middle of plea negotiation. what could he know? what's so valuable? >> sounds like they're looking for him for information about the potential link to the wikileaks as well as an actual link to assange. that tantalizing tidbit we heard there might be a sealed indictment against assange now. there's that odd timing where president trump made that prediction about something's coming with hillary and then voila, the e-mails are released.
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i think what is troubling for stone of course is there's been a slow kind of like moving in towards him of these people around him. while we don't know exactly what the situation is with corsi, you don't make that announcement and don't spend 40 hours talking to prosecutors unless they have something they're very interested in. >> what pressure does this put then on roger stone? >> puts a lot of pressure on stone to the extent he can figure out what it is he's saying. if there was something there that he was directly in touch with assange and wasn't just roger promoting himself, these folks are going to know. and so it really puts pressure on stone to know that everyone else is fessing up and he might want to try to come forward himself. again, the big problem for
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someone is you don't want to be the last person standing. if everyone else is here, you'll have nothing to negotiate with. >> this is laying the groundwork for more than just lying, whether, you know, corsi is being questioned for 40 hours, is it about consistency in stories or is it about roger stone potentially hiding something. >> right. >> is it about more than perjury? >> it's hard to know that. they're going to be comprehensive. i dealt with these prosecutors. given the opportunity to talk to someone with a free rein like this, they'll cover everything from a to z. it's possible he's giving up substantive things. or going over details, which is what tripped him up. there may be various errors he made. that in that amount of time
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they've caught. and one technique is if they catch you in that small lie, now they've got some leverage to say hey, we can charge you with false statements. >> does this make it look like the net is getting wider in your view or is the scope getting more narrow? >> i actually think it shows us how wide the net was cast. it's hard for us to tell because they've been so quiet about it. i think it was cast very widely and we're gipping to see just how far it has been cast. i think there's still kind of crossing the ts and dotting the is. >> all right, always good to see you. happy thanksgiving weekend. still ahead, an american ally accuses president trump of, quote, turning a blind eye to the murder of jamal khashoggi. this as the president digs in
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welcome back. turkey's foreign minister is chastising president trump's decision to stand by saudi arabia. accusing the president of turning a blind eye to the cia's high confidence assessment that the saudi crown prince ordered the murder of jamal khashoggi.
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joining me right now, a former intelligence officer and briefer at the cia. he was also robert mueller's cia daily intelligence briefer for a year and he's now the chief operating officer of the law fair incident. >> happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. so what is your gut intinct telling you about why the president is showing such allegiance to the saudi arabian leadership, versus the cia's most recent finding? >> let me go big and then i'll go small. going big, there is a long history of presidents disagreeing with intelligence assentments or even if not disagreeing with them, choosing to ignore what would look like an obvious policy implication because it's inconvenient for their beliefs. so this is not historically
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unusual. presidents all the time reject the intelligence assessments that they got, that they didn't want to hear the news. looking at trump in particular, you have seen the statements from trump. he keeps talking about the number of jobs that saudi provides. he thinks in terms of transactional matters. not things like protecting journalists abroad. it's not surprising to me based open his predilections he is not acting on this intelligence. >> but what's different here? yes, presidents in the past have been reticent about certain cia findings. but in this case, where you've got an ally of turkey who is saying here's our assessment. we've got the cia saying here's
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our assessment of the murder of a journalist in the consulate in turkey. and the information is handed over, you know, to the white house and the president has consistently said either i'm not so sure, i don't have the whole picture, but then there's this latest big assessment. it doesn't look good for saudi arabia. you don't have the president, you know, respecting the finding. is there anything different about this equation to you in this circumstance? >> we haven't had something this blatant with an ally like saudi arabia in this precise way. the other part is things are going to change in january with the democrat control in the house, you're going to have meaningful oversight of this and it is the legitimate turf of the intelligence community to bring forward in classified hearings, to bring forward the intelligence officers who produced these assessments.
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let's hear it from you. what are your uncertainties? what are your confidence levels? what did you brief to the administration so we can look at that and say did the administration take this on board in a way that comb parts with united states national interest or not. this level of oversight, really haven't had that. >> how do you defend the point of view which is he's weighing human rights versus transactional policies. he's looking, he's set it himself, you know, he's considering a lot of things and, you know, he's kind of trunkated it to the fact there's a lot of money, a lot of jobs here. help us understand the president's point of view.
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versus i guess the future path of ongoing relationships with that country. >> there's a myth that solid intelligence drives policy. that is, if there's a high level of confidence that something happened, there's only one policy route. if that were true, a lot of people have to go back to what they were thinking 15 years ago about iraq having wmd. it doesn't work that way. the intelligence informs policy but it doesn't drive a specific policy. the president has to weigh not only the intelligence but also the alliance relationship, the economy, relationship with other allies like with turkey and europe and stack all that up. the thing that's surprisinging is he hasn't prepared to be doing the packing up. his stone hasn't changed -- >> do you also -- are you also -- the cia mind that is yours, are you also stacking up what the president is assessing
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for his own personal or business pursuit aside from his role as the president? >> there's an impact on the intelligence community. when you see the policymaker and them seeming to ignore it, there's some impact but legal tell you, feelings don't even into this for the average intelligence officer. there would be more therapists working at langley than there are analysts. i think they're putting their work for other officers who appear to bring their information on board. >> happy thanksgiving weekend, appreciate that. first, this week's cnn hero, amanda. >> 26 years ago, i went out skiing and i remember i summ
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welcome back. the fire that has raged in paradise, california is now 85% contained, according to officials. still looking for unacted people in the area. 84 people have died in what has become the deadliest wildfire in california history. thousands of fire evacuees still can't go home as officials say areas of paradise are still not safe. that isn't stopping the paradise post newspaper from doing everything it can to document the town's historic destruction. cnn's ryan young has more. >> reporter: so this is the press room. at the enterprise record in chico this is not the typical rush to meet the deadline. you guys are trying to press
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forward to make sure the paper's out there. why? >> it's like the one small contribution we can make to make things normal for the community, you know. the paper still lives. it's kind of a symbolic important message to send to the community that not everything's lost. >> reporter: david little and rick sylva are not only covering this big story but now trying to record the historic destruction for a community that's no longer there. for safety reasons most of the residents of paradise haven't had a chance to see what's left of their homes. >> i don't think they know how little is left until they get up there. seems like a complete removal of the town. >> reporter: rain has helped firefighters get more control of the devastating camp fire, now some 95% contained. it's destroyed nearly 14,000 homes. now the post may be one of the
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few things that byinds the community. >> the printed newspaper has such staying power. we all know years from now people will look back at these print editions as sort of a history book. >> it's the voice of the community. we have to continue that. >> we don't know where to start, you know, 15,000 homes almost have burned. 90% of the city is burned. how do you start? where do you start? i guess the answer is you help one person at a time. >> reporter: some residents are already planning on rebuilding, promising not to leave their homes behind. >> it was mainly a retirement community. we'll see. paradise is also a community that's been can do. it may be a different group of people getting it back on its feet. >> reporter: ryan young, cnn, paradise, california. >> and an 80-year-old man is in the hospital with critical
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injuries after a powerful explosion ripped his home to pieces. it happened friday morning in st. paul, minnesota. the explosion also damaged multiple homes and buildings in the area. neighbors say they were shaken by the blast. >> just watching tv, playing video games and it was a loud explosion. shook the house. like somebody came and kicked the house. the whole brother shaking. >> authorities believe a natural gas leak may be to blame for that explosion. it was a showdown for the ages. tiger woods and phil mickelson playing for $9 million. the match sure lived up to the hype. here's our reporter. >> reporter: it was two legends with 19 major championships between them going neck and neck the entire way. it was mickelson getting the
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best of his rival. winner take all, pay-per-view match play event with side bets like phil needing birdie on the opening hole to win $200,000 but that didn't happen, meaning that money goes to tiger's handpicked charity. >> that hurts the pocket. >> he was all broken up about it. a tight back and forth. a key moment in round 17. tiger off the green, sensational touch on his chip. he holds it and the match is all square. after woods graciously conceded mickelson's putt, it meant the drama of extra holes. with night falling, it was mickelson on top, dropping the birdie putt to capture the win and $9 million prize. >> to be able to have just a little bit of smack talk for the coming years, it means a lot to
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me. i really don't have much on him. he always drops the pbig pictur, the trump card. to have a day like today, i never thought we'll go to this extra hole. >> phil not only takes home the truck load of cash but also an italian belt buckle for a trophy. ironically, it was more tiger woods' size, not phil's. i'm sure he is laughing all the way to the bank, fred. >> thanks so much, vince. all right, our "newsroom" starts right now. hello, again, everyone, thanks for being with me. a major development on the u.s./mexico border. "the washington post" just confirmed the trump administration and mexico's incoming new government have struck a deal on a new border policy. it would force asylum s

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