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call for your free publisher kit today! [ music playing ] welcome to unfiltered. here's tonight's headlines. overfed or fed up? according to president trump, today we're all eating up a news report about his growing displeasure with treasury secretary steve mnuchin. i am extremely happy and proud of the gun being done by u.s. secretary steve mnuchin. the fake news likes to write stories to the contrary, kwoeth phony stories or jealous people. but they aren't true. they never like to ask me for a quote because it would kill their story. hmm, that's not what people are saying inside the trump administration. they are blameing mnuchin for
the appointment of raising the interest rates and not being more supportive of his trade war threats. he's reportedly wondered aloud with advisers whether trump should have appointed someone else. what's the latest? >> reporter: the president's frustration with treasury secretary steve mnuchin is the latest in a slew the president has reportedly grown dissatisfied with. cnn reported he has grown to lose faith why his homeland secretary kristen nielsen. again, he's wondered whether chief of staff kelly is a good fit. his frustration with the federal reserve and the decision to raise interest rates several times, that's not new dating back to october. the president was complaining
that that decision was crazy, the fed is getting out of control. what is new is the president projecting that to mnuchin. complaining that his fault is powell is at the fed because he selected him on mnuchin's recommendation. he touted the stock market contractor stockmarket that his agenda has been working. he has been sensitive because he sees it as so closely tied to his economic agenda. the president is looking for someone to blame, turning it on secretary mnuchin. >> here's tonight's headline. thanksgiving or festiveous. while you were trying to avoid talking politics with your family on thanksgiving, president trump was celebrating another kind of holiday tradition.
the airing of grievances. in a call traditionally meant to give thanks to our men and women in uniform servingover seas, trump, instead, battled them with a wondering list of complaints, most of them about how unfairly he has been treated. on a call with a u.s. general in afghanistan, where there is an actual war going on, he complained about the 9th circuit court of appeals for failing to rule in his favor against asylum seekers. he complained about bahrain unfair trade deals and a commander on the uss ronald reagan about electromagnetic catapult equipment on navy ships and his use of deadly force at our southern border. now, it's hard enough to imagine this bizarre self aggrandizing display performed with our armed service men and women as unwitting props in trump's
airing of greemievances. now imagine it happening from the comfy confines of the family resort in mar-a-lago, where the president got some r&r, played golf around regaylord from the phantom of the opera in his lavish ballroom, while a world away, fathers and mothers are separated from their families more months at a time risking their lives to keep us safe. after the airing of grievances comes the fooes of strength in a subsequent q&a with reporters, trump sounded off on a host of other topics. he defended his daughter's private e-mail for bipartisan leaders. he defended his decision to believe saudi arabia's explanation for the killing of journalist jamal khashoggi, publicly saying his assessment prince salman was directly
involved. after months of complaining his chill enemies should be prosecuted, republicans issued subpoenas for james comey an loretta lynch and effects of climate change, the administration dumped it on black friday when it turned out it contradicted just about everything the president had said and tweeted about the topic. here's the deal, trump is not a king. he sure acts like one. the military the justice department, congress, his intelligence committee all there at his disposal to use or ignore for his own bench that's not how this works. that's not how any of this works. so with a change in the balance of power coming, will anyone tell him that? for more on this, let me bring in analysts. thank you both for spending at least part of your thanksgiving weekend here in new york with me. i do appreciate it.
amanda, trump is under the impression that the military are his toy soldiers, that congress or his gate keepers, his stooges, fox news is his media. he's had it pretty good for a while. is that about to change, though, with the new democratic house? >> yes. if they want to be aggressive. but i think there is one thing that is guaranteed that petrifys him and explains the anger at secretary mnuchin. that's the fact that the democrats are going to get his tax returns. there is an old 1934 anti-corruption tea pot dome to simply request a president's tax returns and view them privately. they can't disclose it without a vote. but they can use the information they glean to talk to other lawmakers perhaps about other investigations that are ongoing. and so what we saw with the
justice department with the sacking of jeff session, sessions is out so trump can get a much more political player in that position. i think he is looking at getting rid of john kelly, mr. nuchen, kelly, for people in those positions that will protect him. >> absolutely. will continue to do his bidding. thank you for that. >> although, they did get fixen's tax returns. so we can relive a lot of history. >> he may look okay after this term. >> he may look out all right. we will talk more about trump's military in a coming block. but how bizarre was trump's call with those military leaders on thanksgiving? >> on like a trump scale of one to ten, it seemed like the eight to nine range. >> on a sliding scale. >> he is not what's the proper term, context sensitive. in other words, he rails about whatever is on his mind to whomever is in his vicinity.
if he were sitting right here, it wouldn't matter you are interviewing him on tv. right? the kid who is mowing the lawn at the white house or a general in afghanistan, it's all the same. it's whatever he is railing, thinking about at that moment that he's hopped up on. that's how he unloads about. >> no a matter who is there or what day it is? >> absolutely. we get these examples of him being completely inappropriate. he started his administration at the cia, talking about the crowd size and these things behind a wall of stars memorializing dead cia agents. he doesn't care about the context. he is constantly inappropriate. >> none of these keane kept him from getting elected. there might be some consequences. do you think now that republicans are a little against the wall looking towards 2020? they coerced him to be a little bit more traditional or mindful of some of these orthodoxed.
>> i think you could look for a few people to exert tension on him, like a susan collins, perhaps, who may choose to weigh in on this before the people in opposition were silenced or shown themselves the door like jeff flake. so if you want accountability, you have to look at the democrats, it is trump's party. nothing will change that going into 2020 when he is the default nominee. >> so next week, moving forward, he is heading to arc tina to meet with leaders, including xi jinping and vladimir putin of russia. do you think republicans may be sort of aware of the optics, aware of what just happened with the mid-terms? do you anticipate any republicans saying ahead of that can you just keep it on the straight and narrow for two
days? >> i don't think any republicans now the democrats are in power in the house will be on break of his behavior of what he's doing. if anything, now i think they will have even more of an excuse to be enablers. >> behind him. >> or defenders. of course, there will be democrats who overreach, do things pla politically bad for them. they are now in a traditional role as defenders. they're not in power. they've will have no shame about that. foreign policy, every once in a while, you talk about g20. there are occasionally the rubios of the world that pipe up and say tisk, tisk, they're gone. secondly, all of the people his critics the republicans the leaders, they are all either retired. >> right. >> defeated or in the case of john mccain deceased. >> yeah. true.
>> he now has a much more trump-like group of republicans on the hill. >> amman dark, quickly, i want to discuss the ivanka trump e-mail controversy for a minute. leadership is promising to investigate. that we all see the hip pock ricci in her using private e-mail when trump suggested locking up hillary clinton for doing the very same thing. ivanka wasn't running for president at the time. my question to you is this. does anyone care about hypocrisy hypocrisy? >> we need a proper word. >> he has turned hypocrisy. do voters? >> i think there is a broader question that's bigger that gets to more, the idea of what is ivanka doing there? he cares about her e-mail? she's not following the rules. when you go to the white house, are you told to follow basic
stuff, she's not paying attention to. why is she there? it gets into international complication like with saudi arabia. we can talk about e-mails. is it a failure not to go down the meaning of this. >> ryan, amanda, thanks so much for joining me. happy thanksgiving to you. next, looking at the huge gap between trump's words about the u.s. military and his action. it might surprise you. and later, has nancy pelosi stomped out the mutiny within her party and locked up the speakership?
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. the president's thanksgiving day diss, he used the hollywood gratitude to explain overseas about his political problems here at home was the latest example of trump's cavalier attitude towards the sacrifice of our armed service members. remember in france, he declined to visit a u.s. military cemetery to commemorate the end of world war i. he declined to visit arlington memorial ceremony and veteran's day. the president's perspective when it comes to our military has
always been fairly unsettled. he likes to describe himself as a quote/unquote tough guy and surround himself with a military parade to show strength. he has little fascination with what it means to serve. what does it mean to the troops? the spokesman during the obama administration, diplomatic analyst retired u.s. navy rear admiral john kirby. admiral, i think it's important to make a distinction between what a person does and what a person says. and that cuts both ways. so stay with me. first how meaningful is it that the president of the united states pay his respects at arlington or a military cemetery overseas? how important is it that the president of the united states makes these holiday calls and expresses his support and appreciation? >> it's very important. se. it's not just symbolic. although it is symbolic.
it's an expression. he's a commander in chief. he embodies the american people's will with respect to military operation, sourcing, funding. he is at the top of the chain of command. for him to express, physically express, tangibly express, not only his own personal gratitude but the gratitude of the people on his behalf. that's important. that means a lot. while it may be ceremonial, there is a gravitasque men and women in uniform pay attention to. >> what about visiting combat zones? president obama visited a combat zone i think in iraq about four months into his presidency. we remember president bush spent thanksgiving in a war zone. you just wrote for cnn.com, though, maybe president trump shouldn't go to combat zones, why not? >> i don't think if he is going
to keep politics out of it and behave like on thanksgiving day, it's better for him not to go. it does more damage than a boone for moral. if he is willing to leave politics behind when he gets on air force one, i'm all for it. i think he should go. it's back to that showing support for what the troops are doing. being willing to be there physically with them on the ground matters. another, there is another part of this, se, not just going to boost moral and give name shot in the arm. it's going to better understand the mission, itself, to talk to commanders, to listen to them about what they're doing, the challenges they're facing. what they might need from him and washington. that's a very important part of these visits. the president is missing out on these contexts without knowing. >> that's an inaction. right? not going to combat zones? i think it's disappointing. you make a good point about not wanting to politicize it. but what matters most to our
armed forces? i ask this, because trump has made our troops a cornerstone of his campaign. to that end, trump and republicans in congress pass the biggest budget the pentagon has ever seen, $700 billion. it was ontime. how does that weigh ago ens the visits and the phone calls as you say are really important? >> it all matters. i think we should be careful not to put them into buckets and say, well the budget matters more than the tangible expressions of support. it all matters. look. when you are at certain levels of command, the budget may not mean as much to you. you get a hot meal, you are getting the weapons and arms that you need at the front. so it all matters. it's all important. but, look, yes, trump gave him the largest budget ever. i think $715 billion. he said he wants a cut of all departments.
it's likely, possible the pentagon budget will go down to where it was before the budget increase. the other thing, it takes time, it's like moving an aircraft carrier, it takes time to move it around. while the influx of this cash is important. the resources will be used well to arm the military for better competence in the field than in the fleet, it will take a while for that to take effect. so a budget cut next year could erase whatever small progress they have been able make so far. >> hmm, let's talk about bets, too, trump says he's done more for the vets than any president has done in decades. he did sign a funding bill for the va in september that was again the largest ever for veterans affairs, $200 billion. this week the washington post report they have inord nantally long wait times to see doctors so what kind of grade should that give trump right now? >> look.
i think credit where it's due. he has funded the va more than it's ever been before. he has improved transparency on wait list times. he has signed the accountability act in place. which i was very supportive of. it makes it easier for va managers to hire and fire skilled talent. that's all good. let's keep it in perspective the budget increase is 12 billion from last year and half was mandatory spending. he had no control over that. to that mind, the last two years of obama's budget was increased about $20 billion. you have to keep this in perspective, many programs that president obama started. so it's a mixed picture. i do think it's unfair, though, to hit trump too hard on the veterans and va issues. he acts -- i really do believe he cares about the veterans and the veteran's community. he wants to make it better. he is certainly trying to pursue more progress for the va.
but it's a tough institution to turn around as previous president versus learned the hard way. it's going to take a long time and a lot more attention. >> good advice to keep this all ul in perspective. it's exactly why i want to have you on to discuss all of these moving part. it's not just a one note story. there is a lot going on here. it's important to keep nit place, admiral kirby. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. up next, are democrats any closer to coming up with a strategy that's hobbled trump in 2020 neighborhood, still ahead the latest on nancy pelosi's house power struggle. gopi's fouo keep her receipts tidy, even when nothing else is. (brand vo) snap and sort your expenses with quickbooks and find, on average, $4,628 in tax savings. quickbooks. backing you.
friday news dump. when he entered as deputy chief of staff in july, he had to file a financial disclosure form after getting a 68-day extension, he finally submitted it october 9th. yesterday it was made public. it revealed he got an $8.4 million severance payout from fox's parent company and is set to receive another 7 million from 21st century fox through 2019. again all while he's on the white house payroll as if that's not startling enough, let's remember he got his golden parachute after being forced out at fox after being accused of covering up rampant sexual harassment by roger ails, layers, layers. we'll be back in two minutes.
in the red files sure we just had an election and the next one is two years away, rest assured the 2020 handicaping has already begun on both sides of the aisle. president trump's own past re-election if he seeks it will be a little tougher than the last time he had a crowded republican field, higher polling numbers a suburban constituency no longer with him and an opponent who well managed to lose to donald trump. but with the house democratic caucus there is a growing eternal debate in the party over who is best to take him on. should democrats double down on far less policies or find a moderate that can speak to the middle of the country. should it be a mom to cover his
misogynist and national rhetoric or a foul mouthed tough talking blowhard who can beat him at his own game? well, one person who has an opinion on the matter, former president obama. here's what he had to say this week in an interview with cnn's david axelrod. >> with respect to going forward, the idea that there is some demographic or profile of a particular candidate that is the optimal one or the ideal one? that's just not how i've seen politics work. i think people respond to candidates who speak to the moment in some fashion. >> here to discuss is the former executive director of the new york stay democratic party, strategist basil, i want to
start with athink is a smart frameing of this by obama. candidates who speak to the moment. both sides have failed at this in recent years. you may think hillary clinton was qualified. but clearly the wrong person for the moment. i hugely respected and admire mitt romney. i think he would make a great president. but nominating him a billionaire businessman on the heels of occupy wall street, it was just not the right timing. so do you think that democrats are in danger of once again appointing their nominee years before the moment presents, you know, the real opportunity in. >> you know, look, if we learn one thing out of this mid-term election, it's that you had all these candidates running and mid-terms are usually managerial, you sort of run for the job. but you had all these candidates running with this vision of leadership and running these hyperlocal campaigns. >> yeah.
>> so to speak to president obama's point, it will be a while until we know any singular candidate that can aggregate those different interests from across the country. that will take time. there the a danger if we push someone, that person has to emerge. >> david axel odd and i have talked about this personally. he says, for once, can we let the 60-plus candidates run. can we let them run? can we let them campaign before the party decides and to voice for a person on the public? i'm not sure they can avoid that again, but they should. so there are two parallel it was i'm hearing. one is we need a joe bind, someone fluent in rust belt ese. the other is one who will run as an actual liberal, someone from immigration. pro pot. pro single payer, all those
things. is it possible to find a combo? >> i don't know that person really exists today to go back to your point. i understand where you are coming from. i believe hillary clinton was a candidate of her time and her moment. i do believe she was where she needed to be at her time. i don't know if we were all ready for her. >> that is a very important place to be. that when i say, when you asked me a question about it. do we have someone for pro pot, pro marijuana,io enthe country has made up its mind yes. and that is again that goes back to this issue of do we push a candidate ahead? i don't think that we should do that. but i will say this. in your graphic, first of all, take her all. i dot want to be talking about that guy right now. but somebody like an amy klobuchar or others like foreman governor, why am i blanking on his name? terry mcauliffe.
those are names taking place recently. >> sherrod brown. >> i do think we are expanding the scope here, which i think is a good thing. because it shows we have a base and a good bench. >> what about the quickly beto o'rourke? smr we should also be talking about andrew gillum and stacy abrams. they popularly did not win. they are the future of the party. i don't want his name to be there in isolation from the others. having said that. maybe a good number two? maybe not so bad on the ticket. >> thank you so much for that. stay right will, we will talk about nancy pelosi's claim the speaker's gavel.
all right. democrats have more immediate concerns than 2020. in a letter to democratic caucus members and members elebt september late last night, house minority leader nancy pelosi is trying to quiet a rocket caucus that is squabbling over who should become the next speaker of the house. she writes in part, i thank so many of you for support for speaker, respectful of the views of all members, i suggest we all support the member of the caucus for speaker of the house. our diversity is our strength and our unity is our power. now that's a message to democratic congresswoman kathleen rice for instance who says democrats are risking their own seats in two years. marsha fudge considered taking her on for speaker and since bowed out. it was a message to at least 16 democrats what seen on to a
letter demanding new leadership. incoming freshman from kansas who flipped her seat from red to blue just announced this afternoon she'll be backing pelosi. upstart freshmanu alexandria cortez did the same thing and cited lack of challengers in the field. how is pelosi looking? let's bring in senior political correspondent for the washington examiner cnn political analyst david drucker. david, according to new polling, democratic pollers favor pelosi for speaker by a margin of 2-1. should house members care about that? >> well, house members usually don't. i don't think they should. we seen on the republican sides the grass roots says it didn't matter. when you are a leader, it's a service business. you have to take care of them legislatively and pelosi has
done that. one of the reasons she is a probably and i'd say very likely to be the next speaker. one, she has done her job favorably and politically. she doesn't have a challenger. you can't beat somebody with nobody. >> right. >> the angst is real. because she's been at the top for so long. 14 years. it's a long time to be at the top. republican democrat when you are a leader in congress and so there is a lot of restlessness, if democrats want to take her on. they want somebody new, they have to have somebody that does the work. they're a bunch of complainers. they need to cut it doubt and do the work. >> there have been some complaints that opposition to flaens pelosi has been sexist or ageist. i think there is not a lot there. some well into their 60s. isn't this just about elevating
someone who maybe can with theer represent this new diverse fresh faced democratic house in. >> one of the reasons people use those words sexist and ageism is chuck schubert. there is nobody calling harris res ig 96. she gets hillary because during the years, she was president, democrats lost seats. he ran around it. he lost our infrastructure. the truth is after this mid-term elections, i don't the argument for her to not be there. she brought. >> did the job. >> she flipped the house. quite frankly, even the much maligned triple c had a fund record year and did extremely well we are kruting these candidates that we have. >> is selecting a new speaker. is it a reward for a job well done or forward looking?
the job that needs to be done? >> in a perfect world, you think ahead and plan for the future and get the party in a position to be thankful again, it's fought just, gee, thanks for what you did. that's not what politics is about. >> 238 on the hill is over whether they want an electoral speaker. someone that will help democrats when elections or a legislative speaker, won that will get bills passed? what are you hearing in. >> i understand. the thing is, pelosi did the job electorally. they won about 40 seats in the house, including a ton of district. to make the case she can't get it done electorally is off base. i this i they need to think about. they have a top leadership. they're all in their 70s. they have been around a long time. fine. stick around as long as people elect you. the party needs to harness the fresh energy and fresh blood. there is only so much pelosi is
supposed to do. i will say it again, it's important. if they don't want her to be speaker, do the work and challenge her and there is a good chance there will be somebody to do that. >> to his doubt of sort of a reward. if you gain e engage this new democratic coalition, maybe the way is not through her, people under her. i'm not advocating they be taken out. those are people these challengers are saying, we can't go after nancy pelosi, but these are the spots to be mindful to this new coalition? >> well, so, president obama also with david axelrod said something real interesting. nancy is not always the best on a table show or a quick sound byte, what have you, but her skills, tenacity, toughness, stamina the ability to see around the corner, praising her tactical abilities. i get that.
do you want as the face of the democratic party the next two years? she's been an effective reward for republicans. >> maybe it is a reward, legislatively, holding the democrats in line and elector electorally, i don't see an argument to replace her. >> the democratic nominee will be the face in less than two years and pelosi will be -- >> she'll be 50. i appreciate it. thankt so much. up next a tragic story that could to have major repercussions around the world. i wanna keep doing what i love, that's the retirement plan. with my annuity, i know there is a guarantee. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org.
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in the fight against bashar al assad says murderous and oppressive regime in syria, the cause just lost two of its greatest warriors. an activist who ran one of the independent radio stations in syria's stronghold and his colleague were shot and killed on friday. according to their radio fresh news station. they were gunned down by unknown assailants in a targeted attack. radio fresh was critical of assad and often opposition groups. in a statement today syrian-american council said he was a civil society leader who led numerous initiatives.
media activists has worked to document the syrian revolution. the syrian-american council call for the perpetrators to be brought to justice. back in 2014 buzz feed ran a story saying they will make you care about syria even if it kills him and. it might. let me turn your attention another horrific humanitarian crisis. this one in myanmar. more than 720,000 rohingya and ethnic muslim minority have been driven from their homeland to refugee camps near the bangladesh border. they face untold horrors by a
government that institutionalized their discrimination and persecution. at an emergency u.n. security council meeting in 2017, nikki haley said myanmar authorities had carried out a brutal sustained campaign to cleanse the country of an ethnic minority. and bangladesh's foreign minister condemned the violence in myanmar as nothing short as a genocide. the government has been cracking down on journalists trying to tell this important story. that is taking its toll. cnn matt rivers got rare permission to visit myanmar where he spoke to the wives of two imprisoned reuters journalists. >> reporter: she is now 3 months old but only met her father once so far. because her dad is one of two reuters journalist from myanmar sentenced to seven years in prison. i want my daughter to know how her father loves her she says.
they were convicted of possessing state secrets in a trial widely regarded as a sham. >> they have no evidence. i mean if you actually read the judgment you'll see what a farce the trial was. they had no intention to harm the state. >> reporter: activists say they were targeted for investigating illegal killings, implicating the military. an area where the u.n. said the burmese army and others committed genocide against the rohingya people. seven members were later convicted and sentenced to ten years. cnn visited the village where the two journalists reported on. now the remain of the rohingya side of town are left. all the houses burned down. innocent or not, he sits in prison and his wife sits at home. i feel like this is the moment i'm struggling.
she is stoic. she said she's proud of his defiance and calls for press freedom but her daughter has been sick lately and talking about the hospital trip she cracks. others are with their husbands but for me i'm alone. she didn't tell her husband angel was sick, putting up the charade can be exhausting, something he would know, her husband is the other journalist in prison. i really want to tell him about my feelings but i can't she says. i just try to smile all the time. it's just her and her daughter now. she's 3. loves mango. her dad used to cut it up for her. she saw him in court during the trial. she used to use her fingers as a key to try to unlock the handcuffs. myanmar civilian leader has
condemned this. both have lodged appeals and both families focus on what's good. she is a happy kid. baby angel is a joy even if she doesn't sleep enough. her mom hopes one day soon after a nap like this one her dad will be there when she wakes up. matt rivers, cnn, myanmar. a heartwrenching very frustrating story, one that frankly done get enough attention and i'm grateful to matt rivers for bringing us that report. there are plenty of global challenges like this impacting america and for expert analysis on them be sure to subscribe to my weekend warriors podcast. available on apple stitcher and other podcast apps. i talk to experts about foreign affairs every week. that's it for us tonight. cnn newsroom with ana cabrera is up next. ♪ when you shop with retailmenot, you find money everywhere.
you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm ana cabrera in new york. great to have you with us. our top story this hour what appears to be a major dispute over the u.s.-mexico border about asylum seekers and the president tweeting moments ago asylum seekers will be required to wait in mexico while their u.s. applications are processed. this could end what the president has called catch and release where some migrants are allowed to live and work in the u.s. while their asylum applications are pending. some mexican officials dispute that they have made such a deal with the trump administration and it's our understanding no official agreement has been signed. let's get to cnn w h