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you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm ana cabrera in new york. great to have you with us. our top story this hour what appears to be a major dispute over the u.s.-mexico border about asylum seekers and the president tweeting moments ago asylum seekers will be required to wait in mexico while their u.s. applications are processed. this could end what the president has called catch and release where some migrants are allowed to live and work in the u.s. while their asylum applications are pending. some mexican officials dispute that they have made such a deal with the trump administration and it's our understanding no
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official agreement has been signed. let's get to cnn white house reporter sara westwood who has been covering the president from west palm beach. sara, what is the president saying? >> reporter: after weeks of ratcheting up the pressure on mexico to do more to stop that caravan of central american migrants heading for the southern border the president is hinting that he may have struck a deal with mexican leaders to secure more cooperation from mexico when it comes to illegal immigration. the president taking to twitter moments ago saying migrants at the southern border will not be allowed into the united states until their claims are individually approved in court. we will only allow those who come in to our country legally. other than that our very strong policy is catch and detain. no releasing into the u.s. and then he goes on to say all will stay in mexico. if for any reason it becomes necessary we'll close our southern border. no way the united states will after decades of abuse put up
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with this costly and dangerous situation. now, of course, these two tweets come hours after "the washington post" reported that the trump administration struck a deal with mexican officials that would force migrants to wait in mexico while their asylum claims are being adjudicated in u.s. courts. right now migrants can claim asylum as soon as they are on u.s. soil but the president just weeks ago tried via executive action to change asylum policy so migrants caught crossing the border illegally would no longer be eligible for asylum if migrants wanted to request asylum under this proposed rule change they would have had to present themselves at legal points of entry. of course a court blocks the president from doing that. it's unclear whether the president has the authority to strike this kind of deal with mexico that would make such significant changes to asylum law without the input of congress and it's not clear that any formal agreement has been struck as "the washington post"
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reported, no agreement has been signed and the president has had his efforts in the immigration arena stymied before. >> in the meantime we don't know how local officials, residents in mexico may react to all of this, the mayor of tijuana has been speaking out, however, today on the caravan of migrants that's arrived in that area. what is he saying about that? >> reporter: right. the mayor of tijuana has described this as a humanitarian crisis. he's been asking the mexican central government for resources to deal with the migrants that are already in tijuana. these border communities along the u.s.-mexico border they already felt the strain from the flows of migrants seeking to apply for asylum or otherwise find a way to enter the united states. so if the president and mexico implemented a deal that would effectively turn mexico into a waiting room for asylum seekers as they wait for courts to process these asylum claims
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which could take months if not years that could exacerbate this problem along the border that the tijuana mayor is speaking out about. the caravan of central american migrants that the president has focused so heavily on are still miles away and will be flowing into those same areas under this deal. >> thank you. let's broaden our discussion and joining us now david sayer a national security correspondent for the "new york times". margaret talla and cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i want to start with you. as we've seen time and again the administration's immigration policies have been challenged in court. do see this one proceeding without a court challenge? >> no. if this becomes official, if and when this will end up in the courts. this is now the second major move that the trump administration has made to limit asylum seeking in the last few weeks. this one is particularly dangerous what this will do is require people while they are waiting on their asylum
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applications, they are claiming they are subject to persecution and viles to wait in mexico. in the northern reaches of mexico that's an incredibly dangerous area. that's controlled by mexican drug cartels. my offices have done cases there. that's not a safe place for people to remain while they are waiting for their applications to go through. one of the side effects here you can see more people trying to cross illegally if they feel like they have to wait in mexico which is inherently more dangerous. >> the move could potentially backfire. according to "the washington post" reporting one of the reasons mexico is willing to go along with this idea is that they hope these migrants could potentially fill thousands of jobs they have open in their country. is that a bad thing? >> david? >> no. the key here is do those jobs actually then exist for them? because i know the mexicans have made the argument they've a lot
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of job openings and could keep them occupied. but it's not an all clear that you could pursue the legal case you would need to pursue which would be fairly intense to make your case for asylum if you're not actually on u.s. soil with regular access to the u.s. courts. it would become pretty complicated to make that work. it might keep them employed. it may not do the job of letting the united states fairly judge the asylum claim. >> is it possible, though, that this remain in mexico policy should it come to fruition could end the president's demands for his border wall? >> no. i think there's zero percent chance. the border wall, build the wall is one of the rallying cries of his campaign and as he looks ahead to 2020, i don't expect any of that slogan to change. but a couple of things to keep in mind. one is the alternative that the mexican government really did not want to pursue was a
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different idea by the u.s., a sort of a third way option, that would actually switch over the kind of asylum default position to mexico instead of the u.s. in other words, if you're coming up through central america and you're going through mexico why is the u.s. the place you request asylum. that not what they want. this is the lighter alternative. the other couple of pieces to keep in mind is that the kind of migration through mexico to u.s. including asylum seekers has just ballooned in recent months. this is a problem that mexico and the u.s. are both trying to deal with. this is a new mexican administration. this is a populist leader of mexico. they understand that they need to be willing to consider a deal like this but notably "the washington post" interview with the mexican official said they support the plan for now. >> right. right.
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david, do you see this possible deal then as a sign that trump's pressure is proving effective? >> it's interesting. if you look at both the nafta case and this, you have seen that president trump's arguments to the mexicans, ill-tempered as they may have been, demanding as they may have been, actually seem to have moved mexico to positions that a year ago i don't think you would have seen the mexicans taking. now, the critical issue here is we have a new mexican government coming in. they are not yet organized. they haven't really figured out how to deal with donald trump while other world leaders have sort of begun to figure out the rhythms of this. and so a big question, i think, is whether any deal struck now in the last moments of a fading mexican government and a new one coming in will actually survive once that government is in place. >> i also wonder in this idea of
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the president of the u.s. utilizing his art of a deal strategy, if he's also getting the same from the other side, is this really just an olive branch from the incoming mexican president or is he now turning this into a bargaining chip for the ongoing trade discussions? what do you think, margaret? >> i think you raise a really good point. certainly the incoming leader has some political skills, and there's going to be sort of -- this becomes a negotiating position at this point, but i think for president trump it's worthwhile because for his domestic imperative the democrats are taking over congress. it was already hard to get anything done legislatively. it just got that much harder. he's turning increasingly to efforts to try to use executive power and test the courts and if he and the incoming mexican government can meet in the middle on this even for a while, even if it doesn't turn the tide of anything, even if it does some of the things critics has
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said, it sends asylum seekers away from official points and just, you know, has them come in to country other ways. the it allows the president to explore his own use of executive power to bypass congress and prompt another court challenge i think both countries see something to work with there and that's what we're seeing the beginnings of here. >> can the president bypass congress? >> no. >> on this? >> he can try to bypass congress. he can strike deals with mexico or other countries but it has to with stand legal scrutiny. he'll be subject to review in courts. thus far his record is not good. when he tried to make the prior asylum change to the existing law about who may apply for asylum and under what circumstances he was struck down. the administration is now trying to take that directly up to the u.s. supreme court before it's been ruled on at the appellate level which is unusual and i think probably a little bit of a political showmanship. his record is not great in the courts so far.
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he can do whatever he wants with or without congress but ultimately he has a much tougher road ahead in the courts if he's not got congress with him. >> stay with me. david, margaret, thank you so much for that conversation. more legal questions for you to come. also this hour a manhunt is under way after a shopping mall shooting on thanksgiving night and now people are outraged after police admit they fatally shot the wrong man in the chaos. you're live in the cnn newsroom. to the spark cash card d from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet?
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are birmingham on thanksgiving night. police mistakenly thought emantic fitzgerald bradford jr. fired the rounds that left an 18-year-old and a 12-year-old hospitalized. now they say he was likely involved in an altercation, also had a gun but they don't think he's the one that shot the two victims. police say at least one gunman is still at large. protesters walked through the mall this afternoon carrying signs and calling for people to boycott the shops there. bradford's family releasing the statement. we're working diligently with our legal team to determine what happened and why this police officer killed our son. we'll never forget e.j. and ask for your continued prayers during this difficult time. joining me now retired lapd police officer cheryl dorsey. how does this happen? >> well it shouldn't happen, ana. police officers are trained to
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know what your target is. you don't shoot at someone because you think they may be involved in some kind of criminality or they have a gun. we practice shoot/don't shoot scenarios. i think them saying this young man was involved as the shooter was a way to dirty imup from the start. you don't say anything if you don't have all of the information and now to say that oops my bad, we made a mistake, you don't get to do that. officers understand there are no consequences when you take a black life and so unless and until there's substantive penalties, real discipline, real consequence when you take a life, then police officers will continue to do this. >> walk me through how you expect this investigation to now unfold? >> well, they are going to look at wall of the surveillance cameras in the mall and i'm sure they will be asking and
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obtaining cell phone video from those who were there. they will talk to the people that were within close proximity to the melee. certainly the person that was injured but not killed will be able to provide additional information. then they will just work backwards from there in terms of what went on. what's more important is what kind of investigation is really going to be done about why an officer shot on a thought and why that officer didn't have proper target identification, know what's going on. this is a big mall allegedly according to reports. they should practice this kind of stuff. you don't guess. it should be second nature when you do act. >> that being said, i'm trying to imagine this scenario playing out, the officer is coming to what he believes is an active shooting situation and as i have reported in the past as we've covered many shootings taking place, unfortunately, the rules have changed to actually not wait but just go directly to
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where the shots are being fired. how should he have responded if he sees a person who is running away, brandishing a gun, which is what we're told happened. >> he should be given commands. i mean the first thing you want to do is give verbal commands and give that person an opportunity to either surrender, drop the gun, get down on the ground, whatever it is that you're ordering them to do. whether or not these officers or that particular officer did that we don't know. i guess we'll find out in the investigation. but, you know, chaotic scenes are not unfamiliar to police officers. it's inherent to what we do. hopefully it's what they practice doing in a mall the size of the one that they have there. so when it happens, when you fine yourself in a shoot/don't shoot scenario your reaction should be second nature and based on training and what you know and not what you think. >> good to have you with us. i appreciate your perspective. thanks. >> thank you. >> former fbi director james
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legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elly. does comey have a case? >> he has a tough legal case. he made a smart political play. the political play is to call out what the republicans are doing. they want to have this behind closed doors meeting and leak selective pieces of what he said. comey is calling their bluff. legally it's diceyer. generally speaking the courts are reluctant to quash subpoenas. he gets a subpoena. you have the right if you receive a subpoena to object to it. you can say it's irrelevant or privileged. i don't see these applying here. comey chip's only argument is i want to do it in a slightly different format but i've never seen a subpoena quashed on that basis. >> could he delay it long enough until the democrats take over in january? >> as a practical matter if this takes six or seven weeks until the democrats take over in january then yeah tissue will go
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away. it will become moot at that point. >> we know the president turned over his answers this week. this is what we're learning about what he was asked according to axios. there were questions about what trump knew about don jr.'s meeting with the russians at trump tower. president's own comments about dirt on hillary clinton and comments about asking russia to find clinton's missing e-mails. if you're the president's lawyer are you worried about these questions? >> i am. i think rudy giuliani was a little nervous. he showed a little bit of a crack in the armor last week when they were turning these in. trump played no big deal. i answered them myself. rudy said we had some trouble with some of them and we may not answer all of them. i think because those questions we saw put trump in a tough spot. he has to commit. can't waffle any more. he has to say yes or no. look at the question about did he know about trump tower? how does he answer that if he
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did know. >> on the flip side, though, these are all incidents that we've already reported on, knew about. it's not like something outside the realm of anybody's mind. certainly his lawyers would have seen them coming. >> i think they should have. in his lawyer's minds and they are right, mueller already knows the answers to these questions. usually you wouldn't ask these kind of questions hoping to get information. company be in a tough spot. remember he's still got -- that was the collusion questions. he still has the obstruction issue and mueller hasn't agreed to questions on that. that's where we may see a subpoena battle. >> do you think mueller is waiting to make any big moves until after he got the president's questions back so that his lawyers couldn't perhaps craft answers around new indictments. >> could be. one of the thing targets to do. what's out there, what's known, let's bob and weave. now that he has the answers in hands he may be ready to take
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next steps. >> george papd, former trump adviser who pled guilty to lying to fbi. he is sentenced but starts to serve that sentence starting this coming week. he's gotten into a little bit of trouble because of some tweets, essentially taking back his remorse. how do you see this playing out? >> he's in desperation mode. he's trying to delay and then he wants to take back his plea. t it's a hail mary on top of a hail mary. andrew miller won't win his case and if he does it won't impact papadopoulos. i think papadopoulos is going into federal prison on monday. >> a new report out on the dire consequences of the climate change. it could cost human lives. could cost hundreds of billions of dollars. does president trump believe his own government's report? stay with us. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of
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just this week he confused climate and weather patterns tweeting brutal cold blasts could shatter records. whatever happened to global warming. the report comes after the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in california's history. experts say they are in part the result of drought conditions triggered by climate change. chad hansen is joining us now. chad, i'm glad you're with us. do you think the president believes his own government's report? >> it's hard to say what the president believes. what we do know he continues to make statements that deny the existence of climate change and minimize the concerns. impacts are happening right now to communities and to eco systems, and this report from government scientists and staff all across the country is an statement we need to take this
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seriously and the president is not doing that. >> here's how the president responded. >> does it change your opinion on climate change at all? >> no. no. i have a strong opinion. i want great climate. we'll have that. we'll have forests that are very safe. we can go through this every year. we'll have safe forests and that's happening as we speak. >> chad, do you think climate change has contributed to the fires we're seeing there in california? >> yes, definitely. climate change and rising temperatures from climate change affects very many different processes including fire and can increase the amount of fire that happens in a given year. another big factor is human ignitions near communities. we need to do something about that. but for the president to deny the existence of climate change when we're seeing events like this is unacceptable. >> you wrote a cnn op-ed saying president trump is wrong about wildfire prevention.
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explain that. >> well, president trump is claiming that the issue is a lack of logging in our forests. there's several main problems with this. number one, a lot of the fires that are happening where homes are being lost, lives are being lost are nowhere near forests. they are in grasslands, and the areas that are in forest, like the camp fire that burned recently in northern california, these are in the areas that have been logged the most heefst hea than any other place in the state. it burned through very rapidly before it burned down most of the town of paradise was heavily logged on private lands and national forest lands in the years before the camp fire occurred. so donald trump's statement that a lack of logging somehow leads to more fires is completely contradicted by the facts. i was a co-author of the most comprehensive scientific study on this issue. we published this two years.
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we found the forests with the fewest environmental protections and the most logging actually had the most intense fires. and we're seeing that with tragic queens. >> what do you see then as the solution? is there one? >> there is. there's two key things that we need to do. number one, we need to focus our resources and attention on protecting communities. and we know we can do that well because there's lots of studies that say if we focus on creating fire safe communities, making homes more fire safe with fire resistant roofs and ember proof vents so flames don't get sucked into an attic, if we do that in a defensible space which is prosecution vegetation within 100 feet of homes, a great majority of homes will survive wildfires. right now most of the fire management resources and attention are being spent on back country fire suppression and logging operations in remote
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forests. and that actually just damages habitat. it can increase fire intensity and the rate it spread and it diverts scarce resources away from protecting communities. now donald trump wants to double down on that failed approach, and that's just the wrong way to go. >> chad, really appreciate your information. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> there's some good news on the fierns california. the camp fire in northern california is now 95% contained. thanks to the round the clock work of firefighters there and some much needed rain. but the danger is still far from over because of the untable ground left by wildfires. floods, mudslides, a flow of debris now creating new risks. the camp fire has killed 84 people and the search continues for 475 people who remain unaccounted for. despite the complete devastation in their town, one local newspaper continues its work determined to keep this tight-knit community informed. cnn's ryan young has that story.
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>> reporter: this devastation is hard to explain. you realize you're looking at someone's livelihood maybe their house, their business. this all has been taken away. this fire was devastating. now two men are working on the newspaper here to keep the community together hoping they can provide some solace and information to the community in need. >> this is the press room. >> reporter: and the enterprise record in chico, california this is not the typical rush to meet the newspaper's deadline. you're trying to press forward to make sure the newspaper is out there. why? >> one small contribution we can make to make things normal for the community, you know. the paper still lives. it's kind of a symbolic important message to send to the community. not everything is lost. >> reporter: david little and rick silva are not only covering this area's biggest story but trying to record the destruction of a community that's no long
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there are. for safety reasons of the residents of paradise haven't had a chance to see what's left of their homes. >> there's nothing else. i don't think they know how little is left until they get up there. seems like a complete removal of the town. >> reporter: rain has helped firefighters get more control of the devastating camp fire now some 95% contained. the historic fire has destroyed nearly 14,000 homes. now paradise post may be one of the few things that binds this community. >> the printed newspaper has such staying power, and so we all know that years from now people will look back at these print editions as sort of a history book for what happened during the fire. it's the voice of the community, has been is in 1947. we have to continue that. we don't even know where to start. 15,000 homes almost have burned, 90% of the city is burned, how do you start? where do you start?
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just i guess the answer is you help one person at a time. >> reporter: some residents are already planning on rebuilding. promising not to leave their homes behind. >> mainly a retirement community. i'm not sure it's going to be that same kind of commune. we'll see. paradise has always been a community that is a can do, found its way to get back on its feet. just might be a different group of people. >> reporter: this community was worth saving and they are hoping that a lot of commune members will come together to save paradise. but they also know that when people see this for the first time they are going to be heartbroken. it's going to take some time to put it all back together. >> heartbreaking, no doubt. thank you. an update on a truly remarkable story from wildfires. this is alan's truck after his daring escape during the camp fire. he helped evacuate patients and staff before fleeing himself but he ran into gridlock on his way
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out of town which almost cost him his life. you can see the scorch marks on his truck. he talked to cnn affiliate krcr. >> i sitting in my car, and thought it was like, we're getting close to the end here. recorded my video for my friends and family and put my phone away and then a bulldozer came out of nowhere and knocked this flaming truck right next to me. >> toyota heard about his story via social media and decided to give him a brand-new truck to replace the one that burned. amazingly pierce's old truck still runs. toyota offered to take it off his hands, and display it in their show rooms as a testament to its did yourability. >> the correspondent's dinner is taking comedy off the agenda.
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this week the white house correspondent's association announced it is shaking things up for next year's annual dinner breaking from 30 years of tradition. >> i saw you hanging out with mohammod youssuf abdulazeez players like custeph curry. kind of makes sense both of you like raining down bombs on people from long distances. >> the leader of our country is not here. and that's because he lives in moscow. it's a very long flight. >> kind of crazy the trump campaign was in contact with
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russia when the hillary campaign wasn't even in contact with michigan. >> next year there won't be a comedian. instead a famed author and history historian ron chernow will be the speaker. president trump hasn't shown up at the event for the past two years. joining us now is a contributor for the "daily beast". glad to have you with us. you wrote a piece for the "daily beast". you said it's a mistake to not have a comedian. why? >> it's a big mistake. you look at the context. in a democratic president had done the same thing donald trump did in this case called for the dinner to be reformatted or changed and the correspondent's dinner, i would be saying the exact same things. last april you had michele wolf perform. caused an outrage.
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i've been writing about the correspondent's dinner every year. some people do get upset. yet never has the president tweeted or called for the dinner to change its format or get rid of a come don't. trump's tweet in april said put dinner to rest or start over. >> they are not putting the dinner to rest, they are changing the format. >> so me that's what's so troubling. i interviewed olivia knox on wednesday. i want to see a change. in a vacuum, yes, that's fine. but we don't live in a vacuum, we live in the real world where the president of the united states demanded a change to the format. seven months later white house correspondent's association is ending a tradition of 30 plus years. you showed comedian after comedian making fun of presidents from reagan through trump. never has a president has asked for a change. >> the knocks the president and white house correspondent's association has said one of the
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reasons for the change is the dynamics have been different the past couple of years. president trump hasn't gone to the white house correspondent's dinner so you don't have this a barbed towards the president and the president fights back. there's no balance without him. >> figure a michelle wolf made fun of trump, she made fun of democrats, the white house correspondents association itself. comedy is fun. what concerns me beyond all of this is in a democracy, we lose freedom of expression through self censorship. you fear having a push back about speaking truth to power or telling jokes about someone who is in power. to me that's what this smacks of. the white house correspondents association didn't want the pushback so they self censored and that's absolutely wrong.
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there is this perception that they're caving to the president who has been so critical. "the white house correspondents dinner has become a thread the needle challenge for the comedians and the organization which will inevitably have to defend what they say that it made little sense to continue that tradition. whatever the entertainment value, it wasn't worth the grief." could a more sober message be what's needed? >> i think we need comedy now more than ever, people need to laugh more than ever. rich lowry misses this point, he's a conservative, one of the people who gets upset at jokes. donald trump has a history of getting mad at comedians who mock him. bill maher was sued for a joke
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about donald trump being the spawn of an orangutan. as president-elect he lashed out against "saturday night live." he's done it as president going after late night comedians. donald trump is cut from authoritarian cloth, he doesn't want people laughing at him because he thinks it takes his power away. let's not play games here. donald trump doesn't want to be laughed at. >> a lot of people, dean, would say, though, that it's really no laughing matter what the president has done in his attacks against the press. and ron chernow, who will be the speaker this year, as an author of six books including bestsellers about alexander hamilton, about george washington. he says he was asked to, quote, make the case for the first amendment, he said, happy to oblige. he adds, while i've never been mistaken for a stand-up comedian i promise my history lesson
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won't be dry. doesn't that make you curious about what he's going to say? >> oh, absolutely. i have the utmost respect for him. if you want to make a case for the first amendment, have a comedian show the first amendment in action right after him. have ron chernow say, here is a comedian. it could be about the white house correspondents association, it could be about the media, democrats, republicans. it's not about the white house correspondents association. it's about freedom of expression. we need to be more vigilant than ever, when we have a president who has attacked the media, who has attacked comedians. this emboldens him to go after people who are his critics. they'll say, you know what, i'll self-censor. the democratic presidents have said the same thing.
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>> thanks so much, dean, appreciate you coming on. a $400,000 discovery in a washing machine, giving new meaning to the term "money laundering." we're coming clean on this story, just ahead in the cnn newsroom.
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in amsterdam police found strong evidence of money laundering in perhaps the most obvious hiding place on the planet. $400,000 stuffed in a washing machine. the 24-year-old suspect promptly arrested on money laundering charges, no pun intended. another case of found money that might inspire you to do some housework. harold and tina ehrenberg were cleaning up for the holiday when tina noticed a few old lottery tickets on her night stand. one of them was a winning ticket worth $1.8 million before taxes. lucky for them, they still had two weeks left to claim their winnings, which they say will be put towards retirement. got to love that. i'm ana cabrera, thank you so much for spending part of your weekend with us. i'll be back tomorrow afternoon at 5:00 eastern. up next on cnn, "the radical story of patty hearst." good night.
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our first guest, patty hearst, the victim of the most bizarre kidnapping in american history. carried kicking and screaming from her california apartment, shoved into the trunk of a car and sped off into the night. four months later she stunned the world by announcing she joined her captors. she game a gun-toting revolutionary and was branded a common criminal. >> less than 30 minutes ago we arrested patty hearst. >> four counts of robbery, four counts of sexual assault with a deadly weapon with intent to murder.


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