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>> thanks for staying with me. today an explosive report, inconceivable really, if it were not from an incredible source. it details an allegation against the american president that's never been made before. a counter intelligence investigation launched by the fbi into the actions of president trump while he was president. people who want to damage the united states from the inside. the fbi was so concerned about things that the president did and said, they started looking into whether or not he was working for the russians. >> the fbi's interest was piqued during the 2016 campaign.
his public and private explanations for doing so. didn't exactly line up. for that and other reasons, the fbi officially started investigating president donald trump as a possible threat to national security. this just in to cnn, a statement from the chairman of the house judiciary committee. jerry ed that letter is worried the president could retaliate against the fbi agents that investigated him. in the coming weeks, the judiciary committee will take steps to better understand the president's actions and the fbi's response to that behavior. and to make certain these career investigators are protected from president trump's unhinged attacks. boris, it seems house democrats are expecting the administration to lash out at those fbi agents. any sign from the white house that that's what they intent to do? >> none yet, though on twitter,
president trump did unload this morning, going after current and former members of his intelligence community, the president clearly irked by this reporting in the new york times about this counter intelligence probe, questioning whether the president was wittingly or unwittingly working for russian interests. here's one of the tweets from the president, he writes, just learned in the failing new york times the corrupt former leaders of the fbi almost all fired or forced to leave the agency, opened up an investigation on me for no reason. and with no proof after i fired lyin' james comey a total sleaze. there were a number of red flags in the president's behavior that led to this investigation being opened. one of them a letter that the president had drafted in may of 2017 before he fired comey, that ultimately wasn't released by the white house. former white house counsel actually blocked its release by threatening to resign. that letter is now in the possession of robert mueller, we know it's part of his
investigation into whether the president committed obstruction of justice or not. a number of officials are expected to move forward in defending the president. one of them, the secretary of state already has calling this reporting in the new york times ludicrous. listen to this. >> i'm not going to comment on new york times stories, but i'll say this. but it's absolutely ludicrous. >> since you were cia director. did you have any idea this investigation was happening? >> margaret, i've answered this question repeatedly on your show. the idea that's contained in the new york times story. it's silly on its face and not worried about a response. >> sarah sanders put out a statement late last night. also referred to james comey as a disgraced partisan hack.
we're going to see more attacks from this administration, members of the intelligence community, something we've seen from this president before. anna? >> let's look at this picture together. this is a photo from that day back in may of 2017 when the president was hosting russian officials in the oval office. the day after he fired james comey, and told him he was relieved because of it. how much of the president's interactions with these officials and things he said to them factored into this investigation? >> it's unclear at this point, we don't know what robert mueller knows about these conversations, other potential conversations between administration and campaign officials. specifically at that meeting, you have sergei lavrov and kislyak in the white house, now the pressure is off of him, as you noted, he shared with them, classified information about sources of american intelligence over seas, it's clear that the president here is incorrect when
he suggests that no one has been tougher on russia than he has, this meeting is one example of many as you remember, that press conference in helsinki, when he stood side by side with vladimir putin, and did not challenge the russian leader on meddling, stands out as another example. anna. >> thank you. let's bring in our all stars, cnn political commentator s.e. cupp and van joins. i'll do ladies first. this one's coming to you. i want to get your reaction to the new york times report. opened inquiry into whether trump was secretly working on behalf of russia, essentially a manchurian candidate, potentially, there's no press denlt for this, will this be a headline for the history books? >> it is. you could imagine if this were a hollywood script that we're being pitched in a pitch
meeting. they would be like, that is ludicrous, let's live in reality, the united states president isn't going to be a russian asset. here we are, i imagine we're going to find out this report discovered he was not a russian asset. or we'd be having a different conversation right now, but that the fbi was so alarmed by his truly aberrant and unprecedented behavior when it came to dealing with russia, is astounding, it's just astounding. >> it makes you wonder, what will we know, what are we going to see as the public when this report comes out. because there's reporting just this week, in fact, right before this report dropped that the president's team is working hard to figure out how they can claim executive privilege when this report comes out, that's the majority or parts of the report aren't made public. >> i think it's inevitable that we're going to know a lot more than we know. things leak, the democrats in congress are going to be
aggressive. from my point of view, this is going to play into this divide into the country. you're going to have some people. you have two sets of fears about the trump presidency that are on a collision course every day. one set of fears is that this guy is on purpose or being paid or just too crazy and is hurting the country in ways that everyone should be alarmed about. on the other side, for the people who believe in donald trump, they think there's a deep state conspiracy to undermine him. this plays into that narrative, there are people inside the fbi trying to bring him down for no good reason. depending on what bubble you live in, this story plays differently, i think for those of us who know a little better, the professionalism of the u.s. law enforcement and intelligence on something like this is not something that you should easily question. you cannot imagine the level of conversation that would have had to happen for somebody to authorize this to move forward. >> even to -- to even pursue it, because it's so alarming, and
the president does stuff if he's not being paid by the russians to do it, he should send them a bill, because some of this stuff is exactly -- >> which is what we keep hearing from national security experts, in fact. when you talk about this report, i mean, the president continues to say he is innocent. this is a witch hunt, they have nothing on him. why would his team. and we don't know by the way, if this counter intelligence investigation actually is still ongoing, you know, into the president's current actions, but if he's innocent. why not want everything to be made public. >> this is the question for the ages, i can't get inside his head, wouldn't want to. but -- i'd need a safe word. the president may well be innocent. the president may not have included. the president might just be a ruse-aphile, may just like
hanging out with russians. you would think the normal course of action any lawyer would tell you, say i am here, i am willing to cooperate, here's all my relevant information. this is not a normal president, this is not a normal person. so this is why we're all sort of second guessing his motives here. >> also, you know, this pullout of syria, that's happening right now, there's nobody that benefits from that more than iran and russia. you have to think about how it is the united states wants to counter and deal with russia, that region. my concern is, you have some stuff that he does, with some of the sanctions that he was forced to do, that does push back on the russians. i think people in moscow are pretty happy about, whether or not he's doing it on purpose or whether or not there's reason to be concerned. >> let me talk about the shutdown now, it's the longest in american history. we're on day 22.
the president is tweeting, we have a massive humanitarian crisis at our southern border. we will be out for a long time, unless the democrats come back from their vacations and get back to work. i am in the white house ready to sign. i should note not everyone is in washington. mitch mcconnell within back to kentucky. democrats feel they have trump backed into a corner on this, they're really digging in their heels. if he's in a position of desperation to save face. won the that be the perfect time to try to make a deal? why aren't democrats trying to negotiate something to make a counteroffer of some sort. >> the democrats passed two bills this week, to open the government, and they were bills that republicans were supporting half an hour ago. and so i think that the clean cr in the senate that the president blew up, that represented a compromise at that point. so part of the thing is, this
president blew up a much better deal for himself this summer. $25 billion on the table for border security. then he blew up a clean cr, he wants the democrats to rescue him from the well he threw himself down. there is a humanitarian crisis. it's 800 federal workers in the united states, who went without a paycheck this past friday. and they're coast guard workers, tsa workers, the people who can't put gas in their car to get to work. he can resolve that right now. he does not have to hold 800,000 federal workers hostage to get his way on this. he had a much better deal he blew up himself. >> humanitarian crisis. that caught my attention, that appears to be a change in tone. before it was a national security crisis at the border, he's focusing in on the humanitarian crisis. what do you think that's about. >> this is a human tear yang crisis at the border. it's a policy of child separation. the crisis is families separated
and children. two of whom have died at the border. >> there is a humanitarian crisis right now, but you don't need the wall to fix that. >> that's a policy debate, and we should have it. the president lost. let's be real clear. he lost this fight, and it's incredib incredible, because he had all the momentum and all the levers for basically two years. he had public support for border security. it's why he got elected. and instead, he spent most of those two years governing by tweet. holding rallies, turning americans against one another. instead of doing the work of getting something on to his desk that he could sign, while republicans were in congress. now he's spent the past 22 days throwing spaghetti at the wall, let's see what will work. let's see if i deny i said mexico will pay for it, let's see what happens if i float the idea of calling this a national emergency. let's see what happens if i float the idea of using
hurricane money for this wall. none of that has worked, so he is backed into a corner, but now he's kind of just throwing stuff at the wall to see what will stick. he's lost. >> we'll continue the conversation after a quick break. we want to talk also about a republican who is now in hot water. you've referred to king as a cancer on the country. there's growing backlash over this congressman steve king who wonders why the term white nationalism is offensive. we'll talk more about this in the cnn newsroom. [clap, clap] ♪ hey, jen, which tie says, "trustworthy but also fun"? gold down, oil up. oil down, gold up. this is too busy. we need to make sure people can actually use this stuff. which one says, "hours of free live streaming coverage without cable or subscription fees"? aluminum, aluminum? you ready, zack? oh, we're ready. welcome to the show. let's make finance make sense.
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that interview, congressman king asked rhetorically white supremacist, white nationalist, how did that become racist. >> he suggested he had been misquoted. >> what was that conversation, it was about how those words got plugged into our dialogue, not when the words became offensive, which is the technical interpretation of this is, how did that language become offe e offensive. how did that offensive language get injected into our political dialogue. >> back with us now, s.e. and van jones. the congressional black caucus put out a statement saying, steve king needs to be stripped of his committee assignments. we also have heard just in the past day from tim scott, the only black republican senator currently -- and he says, and i
quote, some worry why republicans are constantly accused of racism, it's because of our silence when things like this are said. the three top republicans have also called out scotts words is there any place in congress for him? >> i don't think so. in that you have to agree to some kind of rules here if you're going to have a multiracial, multifaith democratic republican. no one race is superior to another you can say, my group has interest. we talked about white supremacy, white nationalism. he tries to sneak in western civilization. i talk about western civilization all the time, i never talk about white supremacy in a good way. >> does he not understand what is wrong with those words? >> apparently not.
the positive thing i'm seeing, you are seeing the republican party speaking out. they need to do more. you have words and you have action. but this is something that i think tim scott took a big lead on. se cup wrote passionately about. and i think people are rallying around. you can't have a republican party or any party in the western democracies to allow nativism, white supremacy and get a foothold and keep growing unchallenged. >> and yet he doesn't fear backlash he says. >> he's right not to fear backlash, i think van is overly generous. i am appalled. not just by this language, of course i'm appalled. i grew up in new england. my generation never saw this, that didn't mean it wasn't there. this is anathama to me, and we've known who steve king was for a long time, but it's not
strong enough just to condemn it. that's baseline. for republicans to make a difference and to say, this has no place, not just in national discourse, but in congress, in our party. i have asked for each one of them to say, he needs to resign. he needs to step down. that doesn't mean he automatically does. democratic elected, nine times. which is unfortunate, but that's our system, at least they're on record saying, you don't just get to say it. and i don't have to condemn it and walk away. confront this, tell him he's got to go, so that we know you're willing to put your whole body and faith behind that. >> it's interesting, i remember dick armey maybe 10 years ago or longer than that, 15 years ago, said something much more mild, though offensive i think about praising strom thurmond, he
needed to walk away. we've seen people resign over less from congress. my expectations were so low, that i was irrationally exuberant. >> let's talk about the democrats now, you had some breaking news after you interviewed. >> as he always does. >> from hawaii. i want to give everybody a preview of what they can expect tonight on your show. >> are you going to run for president of the united states and do something about it? don't you think she should? don't you think she should? are you going to run? >> i have decided to run, and will be making a formal announcement in the next week. >> and you didn't know that was coming. >> no, in fact, i have been trying to figure out if i was assured, no, she's not going to, she's going to wait a little while. i've known her for a long time. >> we know she's an iraq war
veteran. >> she's. so i think she's probably going to be the youngest candidate, she's just barely old enough to run for president. she left her seat as a state representative. i think the youngest state representative in the history of the country possibly. leaves that, goes and serves two tours of duty in iraq and afghanistan, comes home, runs for congress. she's a force of nature, she's a bright light. she's unusual in our party, in that she's very hawkish on terror. she's a dove on what she calls regime change war. she doesn't want the united states overthrowing government, she wants the united states to be tough on terrorists. that creates some dispepsia with her. >> good thought, i have a feeling she has a different thought about this. >> i've known her for a long time. i was proud she picked my show,
even though she didn't tell me she was going to ahead of time to be announcing. >> van was genuinely surprised d that i could tell, he's not i'm going to be cute about it. he has this way, he gets people to tell their secrets. obviously, i disagree. on a number of issues, specifically on syria. she's staked out territory that's not just out of the mainstream. it's outside of progressive politics, democratic politics, she refused to sign a resolution condemning syrian work crimes, she met with assad, didn't tell anyone about it afterwards she has spread his propaganda. >> we're not making comparisons here. she almost has a singular position when it comes to syria, you can't find her counterpart,
when it comes to her unwillingness to call out assad which is what he is, a butcher, and a commiter of again side against his own people, there's a aren't daily beast called her assad's favorite democrat. there's a reason that syrian american counsel calls her a puppet of assad. this is not right wing propaganda, she has a singular, controversial indefensible position when it comes to assad. >> she'll have to defend that. >> if you want to know more, can you tune in to my show tonight. here's a deal, people don't like her position on assad, they would like her position on everything else. economically she's progressive, she's smart when it comes to a lot of the issues that pull people apart. she's been a bridge builder, someone who's reachable together. this one issue, i think can tend to overshadow. watch my interview, you may like
more. >> i also encourage people to watch the interview. >> watch both of their shows tonight. it's like a double whammy, double punch. first s.e. at 6:00 live right here on cnn, and then van jones at 7:00 p.m., we look forward to seeing more of that interview, thank you both. we'll be right back. every day, visionaries are creating the future. ( ♪ ) so, every day, we put our latest technology and vast expertise to work. ( ♪ ) the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, affordably and on-time. (ringing) ( ♪ ) the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it.
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>> when my grandmother got here almost 100 years ago, i'm sure she never could have imagined that just two generations later, one of her grandsons would be serving as a member of the united states congress. and the other would be standing with you here today to say these words, i am a candidate for president of the united states of america. >> castro served as the secretary of housing and urban development under president obama. before that, he was the mayor of san antonio, where he made his announcement there today. dan murica caught up with castro after he threw his hat into the ring. what did he say to you? >> he leaned heavily into the story that he told in that sound you just played. and the sound that -- the story that vaulted him to the keynote speech. we caught up with him, actually outside the church here in the
plaza that he was baptized in. he was raised here, born here, and he mentioned his grandmother extensively, the fact that he's shocked that two generations later, he would be able to carry this mantle and run for president. he said he sees himself as the anti-dote to president trump because of his story. take a listen what he said about the president. >> i see myself as the antedote to trump. my story is an immigrant story. it's a testament to what immigrants have contributed to this country. it shows people in this time when this president is scapegoating immigrants, that immigrants contribute a lot to the forward progress of our nation. >> castro is clear about the fact that it may take a lot for him to get to president trump, he's going to have to go through a crowded democratic primary field. one person who could be in the
mix is beto o'rourke, the congressman who really captured attention when he ran for senate here in texas in 2018. he failed but he's considering a run and many political watchers have suspected that beto o'rourke could hurt castro. he doesn't think it will hurt him, take a listen to what he said exactly of what he thinks about beto o'rourke possibly getting in the race. >> of course, i'd rather be the only democrat running from texas. but i think that we're going to have a crowded primary. we don't know who's going to run, everybody's going to have to go and put our their vision and do the hard work of campaigning and reaching voters. >> up next for julian castro, is a trip to puerto rico. and then to new hampshire where he will headline politics and eggs, which is a famous democratic event that happens regularly in the granite state,
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it is weekend number one without pay, payday was yesterday, and officially no paycheck for 800,000 federal workers. that includes air traffic controllers, the very people who make sure your plane flies safely. here's what their paychecks looked like this week. zero dollars. also, around 41,000 active duty coast guardsmen won't get another paycheck. they've been told to have garage
sales or make money as mystery shoppers. here's who else is working for free right now. thousands of secret service agents, and the president of the fbi association says the number of staff staying home on furlough is creating a national security issue. tsa employees aren't getting paid either. this is having serious effects on airports, in fact, miami international had to cut the operating hours of one of its concourse this weekend, because it doesn't have enough agents to staff it don't forget the majority of the suspected terrorists enter the country through our airports. border patrol agents are also among those not getting paid. some are suing the trump administration over their missing wages. the e-verify system is down, meaning companies can't check whether employees are in the country legally or illegally.
while the shutdown could make us less safe, it could be deadly in some cases, that's what some at the fda are worried about the fda has stopped inspecting certain foods, not exactly comforting when you realize 2018 saw more multistate food born disease outbreaks, like that romain lettuce scare than any year. food inspections or not, you still have to eat. but in the next month, snap benefits will be curtailed. a separate program, wic, that provides assistance to low income pregnant women, runs out of money soon too. and let's hope there are no natural disasters any time soon. the hurricane detection system is in need of an upgrade. have questions about that new tax law? and what it might mean for your filing this season? too bad, no one's at the irs to
answer your questions right now. you probably already known the smithsonian museums are shut down, so is the national zoo, don't worry, the animals are getting taken care of by workers who are getting paid. if you want to see that panda, too bad. the pandacam has been turned off. you probably also heard the horror stories from national parks toilets overflowing. joshua trees have been chopped down by vandals. when does all of this end? the president says he has no idea, we know congress hasn't come back. they're not even in washington right now, the president has said he could declare a national emergency to get his border wall, and then maybe reopen the government. if he does that, funds meant for hurricane victims in puerto rico, texas and florida, and wildfire victims in california could be pulled or used for that border wall. that's right, the wall mexico was supposed to pay for could soon be paid for with funds for
hurricane and wildfire victims. i want to get mark sczandy here. 21 full days of this government shutdown, now day 22. 800,000 american men and women, federal employees have not received paychecks, this is no longer just a blip caused by a president and the congress locking horns over budget and policy, it's now hitting home. tell us how concerned you are today about the greater impact on the economy as this shutdown continues with no end in sight. >> there are hundreds of thousands of other workers, contract workers that rely on government money and they're not working, they're not getting paid, and, of course, if they're not out buying things and then that ripples throughout the entire communities and throughout the entire economy. and you just listed off a whole
array of activities that are being disrupted. small businesses aren't getting loans. farmers aren't getting financing, rental assistance isn't going out to low income households. the courts are being disrupted. the sec can't do what it needs to do to allow fast growing companies to issue stock, which they need to grow their companies and go out and hire. it's endless. the longer this goes on day by day, the costs are going to mount and the impact on the economy will grow more serious. >> there is a huge trickle down effect. i can't believe you listed off a bunch more things that weren't on our initial list. i want to read to you your own words from a few days ago. this was just before new years, you wrote the president's trade war is the most immediate economic hurdle. also, the arrangement he struck with europe last summer and the new nafta agreement are likely prototypes. that is the deal will be much
ado about nothing since it will have no meaningful economic consequence. that was just five days into this government shutdown, and then last week, we spoke, you told me on this program that the government shutdown was becoming an issue, now, it is the longest shutdown ever. do you still feel the trade war with other countries is the biggest hurdle to the economy? >> well, you make a great point. we have more and more things to worry about, the shutdown is a real problem right now, and it's going to get worse as the days go by. that trade war is also really important matter. if we don't settle that, if we don't find some. the president doesn't find some face saving arrangement to end that war, it's going to do a lot of damage. it already is. one important thing that's going on is businesses have stopped increasing their investment. they haven't done any increase in investment for the last six months. there may be many reasons for that, i would proffer that one
of the key reasons is uncertainty created by the trade work, and here's another thing. if we -- if this continues on into february and march, then the next thing up it going to be a bigger deal, is the treasurely debt limit. we need to raise the debt limit, if we don't, the government can't pay its bills. it can't make its debt payments, it can't pay its bills. security payments, you name it, they won't be able to pay it, that's the next big thing. the dysfunction in washington is very broad based. it's a shutdown. the trade war, this dysfunction is becoming a real problem. >> so, paint a worst case scenario picture of this government shutdown continuing for weeks, or god forbid many months longer, the president threatened it could go on for years, what happens when 800,000 federal workers move on to other careers? what's the impact on the private
sector, the stock market? what does our country look like if this thing continues beyond the point where it's just inconvenient? >> yeah, i know, it can't continue for much longer, otherwise i think it's going to completely undermine confidence. people are going to be so upset and nervous, they're going to pull back, once people pull back on their spending, businesses on their investment and hiring, that's the fodder for a recession, so, you know, the worst case scenario is this drags on to the point where we have an economic downturn and unemployment starts to rise. we have to avoid that. longer term, what are the significant fallout of this might be that these government workers decided, hey, it's not that great being a government employee, that, you know, they had gotten into these jobs thinking they had job security. and that's not the case, we are in a pretty tight labor market right now.
they may just bolt, and if it they do that, that's going to be a problem for delivering government services long into the future. that's something we need to start worrying about. >> mark, good to have your expertise and opinion with us. thank you. we have new details now in the case involving that missing teenager who was justin recently found. stay with us. [clap, clap] ♪ hey, jen, which tie says, "trustworthy but also fun"? gold down, oil up. oil down, gold up. this is too busy. we need to make sure people can actually use this stuff. which one says, "hours of free live streaming coverage without cable or subscription fees"? aluminum, aluminum? you ready, zack? oh, we're ready. welcome to the show. let's make finance make sense. ♪
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jayme closs was found. today she's with her aunt and the family dog. a sheriff tells cnn that she woke up this morning with a big smile. police have arrested jake patterson. and he faces charges of murder and kidnapping. a lot of unanswered questions, ryan. did the police find any connection? >> reporter: not as of right now. we've been trying to figure out the motive, talking to investigators about this. so far they haven't given us any details, but you know, that's what investigators are working on. you have to think about this little girl who was somehow how to break out of a home and be a captor and get to a road to talk to someone, but the dark side to this investigation. the fact that the sheriff told us they believe that jake patterson used a shotgun to blow
open the front door. they even gave us a detail he shaved a head so he wouldn't leave any dna behind. listen to the sheriff. >> there's no evidence that we can uncover that the suspect knew the closses, was at their home, worked with them, there doesn't seem to be any connection between mr. patterson and the closs family at all. >> reporter: so you have to focus on that side, of course, but the other side is the story about this entire community and how thousands went work fog that young lady. yesterday we had a chance to talk to her aunts out here before they met with her. they were ecstatic about the idea of putting their arms around these young ladies. listen to their excitement. >> we can't wait to give that you big hug and hold you tight. we're not going to let you go. >> reporter: you can understand that. of course we'll be following
this on monday the suspect will have his first court appearance. we'll be there. >> a lot of unanswered questions. so glad she's safe and sound tonight. ryan young, thank you. fashion is about more than what we wear. it's influenced by social movements, pop cultures, trends, political events. "american style" looks at how first ladies have used their personal look to connect with voters, conduct, diplomacy, and send political messages of their own. our kate bennett has a preview. >> i wish people would focus on what i do, not what i wear. >> a fair request, but not always easy. what a first lady wears has political messages. that "i really don't care, do you" jacket that she wore or the stilettos heading out of town to head to hurricane relief, or even the pith helmet in africa.
but used thoughtfully fashion diplomacy can be a help. trump's homage to saudi arabia, yellow for friendship in head singi, and doll shay and gabbana in italy. it was jackie kennedy who really ushered in using first lady style to create a feeling. showing women's chic simplicity was part of camelot, and america followed. >> i want to ask about your wardrobe. i'm guessing about $60 grand? >> actually this is a j. crew ensemble. >> michelle obama dressed as a realistic image of a working mom, appealing to a broad base, with moderately priced outfits reflecting the tighter economic times, proving she was paying attention to the political climate. whether or not what a first lady wears should matter is still up
for debate, but one thing is clear, what she wears, what her style says, all of those are a window into her personality. kate bennett, cnn, washington. thanks to the always stylish kate bennett. be sure to watch the premiere tomorrow right here at 9:00 p.m. my colleague s.e. cupp continues our news right after a quick break. (clapping) every day, visionaries are creating the future. ( ♪ )