"inside politics." dana bash in for brianna keilar who picks up the coverage right now. ♪ >> hey, everyone. i'm dana bash in for brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, are officials inside the white house qualified to hear america's secrets? a whistleblower says more than two dozen trump officials were given clearance after they were initially denied. speaking of secrets, robert mueller's report is still not public, and soon democrats say subpoenas are coming. plus, he's not bluffing. the white house says the president is serious about shutting down the southern bothered as the administration makes a big move. and i'll talk to one share of

who says he'd rather go to jail than enforce a proposed new law that takes guns away from people who may pose a risk. up first, a matter of national security and questions about who is allowed access to the country's most important secrets. according to the chairman of the house oversight commit, a white house staffer says about two dozen individuals were given security clearances despite initially being denied. democratic congressman elijah congressman says the clearances were turned down due to a range of issues from fears about foreign influence to potential conflicts of interest. let's get straight to congressional reporter lauren fox on capitol hill. what more can you tell us about this? >> reporter: what we know is trisha newbold appeared before the house oversight committee and she told them she was deeply concerned about how the security clearance process was working at the white house, basically she would express she didn't think someone would have a security

clearance and then that decision would be overturned by senior white house officials. now, you know, her concerns with coming forward at great risk to her job she said were just because she was concerned about national security. she told the committee, quote, i would not be doing a service to myself, my country or my children if i sat back knowing that the issues that we have could impact national security. now cummings also said that he will subpoena carl klein who served as the personnel security officer at the white house for the two -- first two years of the trump administration, that he has questions he wants answered from carl klein. now, jim jordan who is the leading republican on this committee, he said simply that this is a fishing expedition, that he does not think that elijah cummings has the best intentions here when he's trying to get answers on the security clearances. instead, he said, quote, it's extremely unfortunate and disappointing that chairman cummings is now using this sensitive topic as a pretense for a partisan attack on the white house.

dana? >> shocker. there's partisan politics being accused and going on on capitol hill, even on important issues of oversight. lauren, stand by, because with me here in the studio i have jis lu, the white house cabinet secretary and transition director for president obama. thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you. >> i want you to put this in context because this is the kind of thing you did, security clearances, you oversaw this in the obama administration, so explain how the process works in so much as how unusual what this alleged whistleblower is saying is. >> you know, it's sometimes hard given the daily barrage of news to separate what's important and what's not important. this is important. 25 individuals, white house officials, were granted clearances despite career officials raising objections. those objections ranged from foreign influence, possible blackmail, possible corrupt activity, questionable activity, financial problems. those decisions are made by career officials for a reason. political appointees should certainly not have anything to

do with this and certainly the president should not have anything to do with this. this is supposed to be based on the best interests of the u.s. government and national security. >> that's how it worked in the obama administration because were you a political appointee? >> i was cleared three times during different times when i worked for barack obama. i've known barack obama since law school. i suspect if i could not have gotten a clearance i know for a fact he would not have overruled career officials. that's not the way we conducted business. >> i want to read something that this woman, miss newbold, the whistleblower said to congress according to the cummings statement. the white house had not stopped doing credit history checks during the review process. lacked security for personnel files and add cut staff during the review process and allowed for an unusually high number of interim security clearances, people deemed unsuitable for access to classified information according to the memo.

does that concern you? >> we talked about this over the last year. during the period of time when they had an interim clearance they were granted access to classified information t.later turned out that several of these individuals were not granted the permanent clearance. you can't unring the bell. had access to all this information. on top of that the white house wasn't doing basic credit checks to find out if people had financial problems. they were subject to potential blackmail and this is concerning. this should be bipartisan, and i think of all of the investigations this is potentially the one that should concern republicans most of all. >> you started to ask that question. before i get to lauren to switch gears here on why it matters. you mentioned blackmail, but big picture. people watching this and saying, okay. so they got security clearances. maybe there were some regular florida, but, you know, how really -- how dangerous is it really? >> when you get a top secret clearance you have access to the most sensitive information in the u.s. government. it's not only the information but it's how that information was collected. that the would be incredibly

valuable to any foreign power, and you want to make sure that every box has been checked, every hurdle has been cleared before those are given out. >> okay. stand bit. i want to give back to lauren fox on capitol hill because she's also following a new development in the battle over the mueller report. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler plans to authorize a subpoena calling for congress to get access to the full unredacted report. lauren, tell us about the congressman's plans on this. >> well, certainly, this is just escalating the fight with the white house and the executive branch over getting the full mueller report. of course, you know, the concern here has been that they want just -- not just a summary of this report, not just a redacted version of this report as has been promised to them, but they want to see the underlying evidence of how decisions were made when it came to the final conclusions of this report, dana, so on wednesday the committee will meet. they will vote to authorize these subpoenas, but, again, it's a preemptive measure.

it's unclear when the chairman would actually force a subpoena and actually move forward with that. >> okay. lauren, thank you. chris, what is your view on what you just heard lauren report, especially given the context here which is that the attorney general says that he is going to hand over the mueller report with redactions, he says, for security reasons and some executive privilege reasons. should the democrats be pushing this as quickly as they are? >> well, look. i think this is a protective measure that chairman nadler is taking to make sure that no stone is left unturned, that at the end of the day the american people get to see all this information. it is possible that the attorney general handles these redactions in a reasonable way. obviously safeguarding national security and grand jury material, but i think there's a broader concern based on the attorney general's previous writings about an expansive executive power that much of the stuff might be held back for improper reasons, so i think this is an appropriate preemptive protective measure. >> chris lu, thank you so much.

>> thank you. >> great to have you here giving us your insight. lauren fox as well on capitol hill. thank you. meanwhile, at the white house, president trump is at least people around him saying he's not bluffing on his threat to close the u.s. border with mexico. he says he could close parts or all of it as soon as this week, and we're just learning the trump administration will speed up its plan to send more officers to the border and might even add an additional 2,000 officers as well as officials say they are reaching a breaking point. president trump is also directing the state department to cut off aid to three central american countries, el salvador, guatemala and honduras. cnn's white house correspondent kaitlin collins is with me and what are you hearing that the president is actually going to follow through on this threat? >> reporter: some people are skeptical because this is a threat the president has made before and never followed through on and chief of staff nick mulvaney says unless

something drastic happens he does expect the president to follow through on the closure of the border. now there's questions about how they are going to do that. not only trade, air travel, those are questions that the white house is not answering right now, the logistics part of this, and how that would go on and what the repercussions of closing the southern border would be. the acting defense secretary pat shanahan says he's not began given any directions at the pentagon so far to carry out this or to close the southern border or send anyone down to the southern bothered. this is still very much a fluid plan. they don't have any strategy in place. so far judging by what our sources have told us. it's not just the threat to close the southern border, it's also the threat to cut off the aid, the directive that the president says he issued to cut off the aid to the three central american countries. mulvaney yesterday during an interview with jake tapper was asked about the data that shows actually giving aid to countries like that helps stop the surge of migrants and actually makes the border safer. he said that was just career

officials saying, that and he said it's clear it's not working because if you look at the numbers, including that record-breaking number, the 11--year high last month with 76,000 people trying to cross the border. he said it's proof they do need to follow through on the threat and there is a crisis on the border in nick mulvaney's words. >> kaitlan collins, thanks so much for the report. here with me at the table cnn political director david chalian. can't wait for this download because there's so much to discuss. let's begin with what kaitlan was talking about. obviously there are incredible politics at play in anything that any president does with regard to immigration but particularly donald trump. >> yeah. i was just thinking listening to kaitlan, you realize we're two months away from the four-year anniversary of donald trump coming down the escalator and launching his campaign for president and putting immigration front and center as the issue, and it has been four years of consistency of staying on this as what he sees as the sort of lifeline and his support

to his base. this clearly is part of that. we've s donald trump having the ability of raising immigration in the consciousness of americans as an important issue and when he talks about it all the time it does become more important. americans tell us that in polling and it doesn't necessarily play to his positive. obviously it also riles up a key part of the democratic base. >> it does, and then we're also as the point where he's got his base, and he has had his base, and we're get together point where he needs to expand beyond that. >> yeah. >> does that help or hurt or we don't know the answer yet. >> i look for that every day because that's the equation. you need your base plus to win. he had that plus with independents in 2016, and -- and i don't see anything he's doing right now that actually even on this issue that really expands the universe beyond his already existing supporters. ago them enthusiastic, committed, constantly ride up is a key part of his success equation. >> let's talk about the democratic side and the fund raising numbers, the first quarter ended last night. it's april 1st, not just april

fool's day. >> these numbers are real. >> they all want to see how much they raised because that has a big impact, particularly on these newer known candidates. one of them is pete buttigieg. he announces he raised $7 million since he launched his exploratory committee. that's pretty impressive for somebody who is the mayor of south bend and didn't have a national profile. >> exactly, and it's even a little more impressive than you think. he opened his account in january, but nobody even know who pete buttigieg was. this is impressive and yet we already know o'rourke and sand verse said they raised nearly that much in their first 24 hours. >> we don't have the numbers yet. >> but they have told us in the first 24 hours they raised near that, so there are going to be bigger numbers. pete buttigieg he'll have staying power and there will be folks well ahead of him in the

money race. >> what do you make of elizabeth warren's finance director leaving this weekend? >> a big battle inside the campaign because elizabeth warren by necessity more probably than a planned-out strategy decided to say, hey, i'm not doing big dollar fund-raisers or hotel ballroom. i'll raise grass roots donations so the whole reason the person had the job was to do the big dollar fund-raiser and there was a strategic split inside the campaign in the early stages, and they are adjusting to that. >> which is not necessarily a positive thing when you're someone like her and money is key at the beginning. before i let you go, we'll talk about joe biden later in the show, but i'm dying to get your take on this because we know that the former democratic lieutenant governor candidate in nevada, lucy flores, she came on cnn yesterday and described in detail how she felt uncomfortable when they were at a campaign event together, that the vice president leaned behind her, smelled her hair and planted a slow kiss on her head

in anticipation of that joe biden released the will following statement i.i've offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort, and not once never did i believe i acted inappropriately. if it is suggested i did, so i will listen respectfully, but it was never my intention. so what do you make of there in the big picture here of skwliden generationally and in terms of having his footing firm ready to go as a candidate in the 2029-2020 era? >> you raised the right question, this to me besides the specifics of the story which joe biden addressed and doesn't remember the event this way but fully supports lucy flores' desire to talk and says he's willing to listen, but what i think is so important here politically for joe biden he's aware now. this is the frame through which his candidacy is going to be viewed time and time again. is he out of step with where the modern day democratic party is in the post-me, too era in this

moment of time in a media environment? is joe biden fully geared up for that? it's a very different world obviously from his first run in '88 but even from his run in 2008 and would i rarg even wharn i was on the ticket in 2012 last. the big thing for joe biden is how does he show he can navigate that new environment? >> look, he's a tactile person is probably the best way to put it, and we all know and maybe have seen him approach people in that way. he's a touchy-feely guy, and -- and in this post-me, too era or in this current me, too era it's a very, very different situation. david, so good to see you. >> thank you. >> as always. and the white house and republicans are making promise after promise about the president's replacement plan for obamacare. the problem is that plan doesn't exist. plus, a rapper and entrepreneur shot to death just before he was to meet with the lapd over gang

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former vice president joe biden isn't even in the 2020 race yet, and he's already doing campaign damage control. now biden is defending himself against allegations from former nevada politician lucy flores that he made her feel, quote, uneasy, gross and confused back in 2014 at a rally when she was running for nevada lieutenant governor. she says he kissed her on the

back and on the head. i want to go straight to former democratic senator from illinois carol moseley-braun. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> here's how lucy flores described that moment. >> very unexpectedly and out of nowhere i feel joe biden put his hands on my shoulders, get up very close to me from behind, lean in, smell my hair and then plant a slow kiss on the top of my head. you don't expect that kind of intimacy from someone so powerful and someone who you just have no relationship whatsoever to touch you and to feel you. >> senator, what's your reaction when you hear that? >> well, you know, i know a lot of people, and of all the people i know, joe biden is without doubt one of the most thoughtful and respectful of others i've

ever known, i've ever met, and i worked with him for six years, as you may know, in the senate, and i've had contact with him since then, and so i can tell you that while you have to believe miss flores because she described her own life experience but the fact to make a big kerfuffle out of this with a man who has done nothing but spend his life in thor isives have others think is just wrong so i hope we can go back. you know, she talked about -- in her article about how she felt powerless. she did have power. she could have turned around and said don't do that. don't touch me and could have spoken to him on the spot and in the moment and expressed her point of view or her feelings about it. if she was creeped out, say as much. >> well, you know, woman to woman sometimes if you're in a situation, particularly she was about to go on stage with the vice president or former vice president of the united states as a candidate, you don't necessarily say what you want to say in that moment, so do you --

do you blame him for not doing that at that time? >> no. i'm just saying to you, you know, the context of this situation as a man who has spent his life being nice to people and trying to help people and serving the public and serving individuals, i mean, he was there doing a nice favor for her, campaigning for her in a race that she ultimately lost, as you know, but the fact is i don't -- i don't mean to castigate her at all, and i think if anything if she -- she may have been doing joe biden a favor because quite frankly if this kind of alerts him to some of the land mines that are out there, this is a new political environment, as you well know, and so as you have these culture shifts which frankly this is one that i appreciate and i applaud. i'm a lifelong feminist. i mean, i was involved with trying to pass the equal rights amendment here in illinois back in the day, so -- so i've been involved with these issues for a long time, and i -- and i know what it's like to try to combat

the patriarchy, but i don't think that's joe biden at all. you've got the wrong person here to make that kind of allegation about, and because he's -- he is such a good guy and has been so respectful of people over the years. >> so i want to read part of what joe biden said in his statement to lucy flores or about lucy flores. in my many years on the campaign trail and in public life i've offered couldn'tless handshakes, husband expressions of affection, support and comfort, and not once, never, did i believe i acted inappropriately. if it's suggested i did so, i will listen respectfully but it was never my intention. given what you just so described anti-ly, senator, the cultural shift, the difference, maybe generational shift, is this statement enough? >> i think so. i think so. what else are you supposed to do? you know, lucy, i'm sorry, i got too close to you. seriously, what else is he supposed to do? he's apologized to her and said he will listen to her.

he hears her. he has taken notice of the situation and -- and, again, of this particular set of land mines and they are land hines for people who are not accustomed to navigating things being taken out of context, but i swear to you, i think that's what has happened here. it's been taken out of context. he's such a good guy and he -- he's never done anything inappropriate along those lines in my experience, and i've -- i've worked very closely with him you. >> have, and just even as reporters and other people around the vice president, he is -- i guess the best way to describe him, he's a tactile guy, and it's his way of showing that he's interested, that he has empathy, just having a conversation, men and women. i mean, we've both seen it. have you in your experience particularly when you were serving with him, now looking back through the 2019 lens, did you see him do anything that you would think, again, thinking about somebody who is going to run for president in 2020, you

can't act like that anymore, joe? >> well, because -- because he -- he is such a good guy and he's done such a good job reaching out to people, when he got me to serve of on the judiciary committee when i first got to the senate, he came by, i was just moving into a car, he came by and ate cherry by. can you go to somebody's house and eat cherry by if you're asking them to serve of on the senate judiciary committee? i don't know. but a lot of these things you need to make up as you go but you won't find a better person to be involved in the conversation than joe biden and i mean that from the bottom of my heart. >> senator carol moseley-braun, former senator from illinois, thanks so much for joining me. appreciate it. >> thank you. my pleasure. and just before he was set to meet with police on gang violence, a grammy-nominated rapper is shot to death outside his own store.

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tributes are pouring in for grammy-nominated rapper nipsey hussle who was shot multiple times in broad daylight outside his clothing store in los angeles. he later died of his injuries. two others were also shot but are recovering. nipsey hussle tweeted this just moments before the shooting. having strong enemies is a blessing. nick watt is in los angeles with more on this. first, nick, what do we know about the investigation and any leads on potential shooter or shooters. >> reporter: latest that we're hearing, dana, is lapd is lacking for a black male in his early 20s, looking for one person. they are right now scouring through social media, looking at security camera footage from the area, interviewing witnesses to try and hone down that manhunt. now you mentioned that tweet that was sent just at 2:52 pacific time, about half an hour after that is when the lapd got

reports of gunfire in the parking lot outside that store owned by nipsey hussle, and then nipsey hussle was pronounced dead one hour and three minutes after sending that tweet. now, he was supposed to be meeting today with the lapd, with the chief and others to discuss gang violence. he was, he said on facebook, a devout member himself of the rolling 60s crypts, but this was an intelligent man, an articulate man and a man with a social conscience. pharrell williams tweeted you inspired millions. he was a grammy-nominated artist and my colleague stephanie elam spoke to him back on the red carpet back in february. take a listen. >> i'm having everyone look at the camera. >> nipsey hussle, the great.

make sure you add the great. yes. you know it's my debut album so it's really like a dream honestly. an an artist growing up and loving music you hope you can get acknowledgement at the highest level, my debut album, 2018 was loaded with great rap releases. i'm just excited, you know, inspired to keep work being, humbled, all those things. >> reporter: he was just 33 years old and leaves his partner of five years, actress and model laura london and their young son. dana? >> so sad, beyond sad, and obviously we'll be getting back to you as you learn more, as investigators learn more about who did this. nick, thanks so much for that record. and a new bill in one state would give authorities the power to take the guns away from people who may be a risk, and now a local sheriff disagrees so much with it he says he's willing to go to jail rather than enforce it. he'll tell us why up next. ninety-six hundred roadsct r named 'park' in the u.s.

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sheriff deputy zach parrish responds to his final call. >> cover me! >> reporter: the 29-year-old was shot and killed by a man with a arsenal of weapons who authorities said had a history of bizarre behavior, including threats to the police. since then his former boss tony spurlock has been a vocal advocate of a new bill in the local legislature that will allow a family member, roommate or law enforcement to petition a judge to seize the guns of a person deemed to be a threat to themselves or others. 14 other states have passed similar so-called red flag laws. do you think that this bill had it had law would have saved zach parrish ice life? >> absolutely, without a doubt. >> reporter: alec garnet is the top house democrat in colorado where his party holds the governor's house and majorities in both chambers. republicans don't have enough votes to stand in the way, but the bill garnet has co-sponsored has prompted plenty of pushback from outside the capital. more than half of all colorado counties officially oppose it.

many have declared themselves sanctuary counties, not for immigration but for guns, promising not to devote resources to enforce the law, and despite its sheriff's backing, even douglas county passed a resolution opposing the bill. >> why would you tell a law enforcement officer that you could not enforce a law because they didn't like it? that's craziness. >> we're putting line in the sand for what we believe right now is, supporting the constitutional law. >> that was our scott mclean reporting. now weld county colorado sheriff steve reams who says he's so opposed to this bill that he's not going to enforce it, and thing you, first of all, for joining me, sheriff. what about this bill bothers you so much that if and when it becomes law, and it looks like it's going to be rather soon, you say you would rather go to jail than endorse it. >> well, this bill is unlike any other red flag bill that's been enacted anywhere in the united

states in that it allows someone's firearms to be taken away in an ex-parte manner so the person who is having their firearms taken away doesn't get to appeal in court at that initial hearing. that takes due process and turns it upside down, and that's just one of many issues with this bill, but i think that's the most flagrant one, and that's why i'm saying i would rather -- i would rather risk violating a court order than i would violating someone's constitutional rights. >> i want to get to the constitutional rights that you're talking about and the details of this in a second, but just broadly is someone is so pon so potentially dangerous to themselves or someone else, if they have a weapon you think they should be left alone that they could be potentially dangerous that they get angry, that their weapon is taken away. can you step me understand that. >> well, that isn't what i said. what i've said all along is we need to figure out how to treat

with the person. we deal with this daily in law enforcement. this is the criminalization of mentally ill persons. they are being pushed over into the law enforcement realms because there's not a treatment plan out there or a treatment program for many of these people to go, to so when they are deemed to have a mental illness or a mental health concern, oftentimes law enforcement is the last ones to deal with them, and in my mind going in and having a confrontation with someone to take their firearms but not deal with a person just creates an even bigger issue. i talked about many different ways that our mental health hold statue here in colorado could be modified and corrected to help fix this issue or help better address this issue, but that didn't have any interest. again, this is the bill that came from the legislature. >> you talk about the due process issues that you say you have with this bill. if anyone raises a red flag about somebody, they still have to petition a judge before the

guns can be taken away. why isn't that good enough? >> that is correct. well, a person does have to petition a judge and that happens in many types of different hearings. the issue is the person who is having their guns potentially confiscated isn't aware of this hearing taking place. they -- they find out about the hearing after the fact, so they don't have a chance to -- to cross-examine their accusers or witnesses. they don't have a chance to me their case, so the terminology that's been used is they are guilty until proven innocent and while this sante criminal charge, people understand that -- that fundamentally that their right is taken away and then they have to come back and prove that they shouldn't have their rights stripped. >> if that was changed, would you support this, meaning just broadly as a law enforcement officer, do you feel that if there is a law written that has the due process safeguards that

you're talking about, wouldn't you want to have security and be assured that people who have red flags, mental health issues, should not have a gun? i mean, so many of these killings that we've seen across the country, mass shootings, afterwards we've heard oh, well what about this red flag or that red flag, and there weren't the means or the laws on the books to address that. >> so i think the proper way to deal with this would be to address the mental health hold law here in the state of colorado. do you i think this red flag bill could be modified in a way that would at least provide with some level of due process or give some level of due process? yes. i think the bill that was introduced last year was much more in line with that. again, i wasn't necessarily in favor of that bill either because it still didn't address the mental health issue, and that's truly where the focus needs to be.

i understand this seems to be an easier mechanism, but we really need to address the true concern, and that's to what you stated, that's dealing with these people that have an obvious mental illness or they are exhibiting signs that they are going to do harm to others, especially in mass -- in these mass casualty events. oftentimes there are warning signs, but if you give us a tool where we can actually treat the person and not just take away a tool, i think that goes a lot farther to fixing the end problem than it does in kicking the can down the road. >> all right. well, this is obviously, as it heads to the governor's desk, this is probably going to be just the beginning of a national conversation based on what we're seeing where you are in colorado. sheriff steve reams, thanks so much for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. >> and more on the developing news from washington. a whistleblower says security clearances were denied for more than two dozen officials, but the white house approved them anyway. plus, democrats are gearing up

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chairman's threat? >> it's first good to be with you. it's important the report is released not just to congress but the american people. we need to understand exactly how these conclusions were reached in regards to collusion and obstruction of justice. it's important also in defending our country against further attacks from russia on our election system and other democratic institutions. it's incumbent upon mr. barr to get this report to congress as quickly as possible. >> but, senator, the attorney general has said he expects to make a redacted version of the report public by mid april. in a couple weeks if not sooner. so are the democrats pushing a little bit too hard here given the political situation or is it for political reasons? >> well, as you know we have a summary of the report most immediately upon it being presented to the attorney general. it's important that this report be released as quickly as

possible. we certainly understand there may be certain sections such as grand jury testimony or dealing with individuals that are not public officials that were not indicted. that type of information we understand being redacted. we are concerned that the principle information is made available to congress. >> but is preparing a subpoena and announcing it when the attorney general says it's already going to come in a couple weeks jumping the gun on the democrat's part? >> well, you know, it takes time for a subpoena to be executed and issued, et cetera. if we wait a couple weeks and there's a couple more weeks and a couple more weeks and a couple more weeks, it's important this report be released as quickly as possible. and i hope we can reach an agreement with the attorney general for the release of the report as soon as possible. >> maybe it's a negotiating tactic? >> i think the bottom line is that it's important that the report be released. we don't want to release a month from now. we don't want to release two

months from now. it's important that the report get released. >> okay. i want to quickly turn to what's happening at the southern border and the president's threat to close the southern border. also his decision to cut aid to el salvador and honduras. the administration says the countries could do more to ease what's a humanitarian crisis at the boarder. what do you think about the approach and more importantly, how should he handle it differently? >> cutting off aid to the countries of the northern triangle in central america is against our national security interest. our aid is helping that country develop stability to deal with their gang violence and drug trafficking. it's in our national security interest to improve the conditions in the countries so there will be less individuals tempted to leave to come to our country. it's counterproductive for us to cut off the aid, and closing the border makes no sense. we need mexico's cooperation and

cutting off the border tells mexico we're doing it alone. >> okay, but i mean, we only have unfortunately thirty-seconds left, but can you in a nutshell say what he should do given the fact that he is pointing to a humanitarian crisis? >> work with congress and let's enact immigration reform. the senate passed it years ago. they're prepared for comprehensive immigration reform. if the president wants to get the immigration system the way it should be, work with us and stop doing these types of activities that just turns our neighbors against us. >> i like the fact that you are still optimistic about the notion of bipartisanship on something as tough as immigration. senator, thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thank you. and much more on this as we go live to the border coming up. plus new surveillance video includes from the night of the disappearance of a student who was killed after getting in a

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