first guy to concede, he is not the sitting pope any more. he is not in charge any more. so people are free to make of this what they want. >> as they are. as they are clearly. john allen, thank you so much in rome for me this evening. appreciate it. hour two, you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin with the president praising his attorney general for comments that have outraged democrats. president trump saying bill barr told it like it is when he testified that, quote, spying did occur on the trump campaign. barr later clarified saying he meant that he had concerns that improper surveillance may have happened. but that did not stop the president from saying this. >> i think what he said was absolutely true. there was absolutely spying into my campaign. i'll go a step further in my opinion it was illegal spying, unprecedented spying. and something that should never be allowed to happen in our

country again. and i think his answer was actually a very accurate one and a lot of people saw that -- a lot of people understand, many, many people understand the situation and want to be open to that situation. hard to believe it could have happened. but it did. there was spying in my campaign. and his answer was a very accurate one. >> however, democratic leaders are now questioning if the attorney general could be a good-faith arbiter of the mueller report which is expected to be released within a week in redacted form. house speaker nancy pelosi said barr was off the rails and fired fbi director james comey said a short while ago he didn't know what barr was talking about and that using the term "spying" is, his word, concerning. vicki duval from the cia and also general counsel for the senate intelligence committee so a pleasure to have you on. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> what kind of damage do you think mr. barr had when he used the word "spying". >> the word "spying", by the

attorney general of the united states, this is not a term that intelligence or law enforcement professionals use. this is a james bond kind of word. and it has no place in appropriate discussion of government functions. i don't know why he used it. i think both the right and the left are reacting to it. the right is embracing it, the left is concerned and think it is an alarmist term, a dog whistle, a trumpian term. i think intelligence professionals -- my phone blew up -- >> did it. >> blew up. >> and what are they saying? that he shouldn't have used the word. >> he used the word "political", he used the word "surveillance" and "unauthorized surveillance". >> it was just a confusing mess of i don't know what.

>> obviously if he knows something that -- the rest of the world doesn't know, why would surveillance, for example, be improper? >> well, there is surveillance and there is electronic surveillance. i don't think he used the word electronic. now electronic surveillance in the criminal context and the intelligence cob -- context is governed by judges so he didn't use that term. he used the term "surveillance" and i think that means following people down the street and you don't require much of a showing to be required to follow people down the street. >> what about the notion of investigating the investigators. and we know the i.g. is looking into this and questions why would he double up on investigating. it is my understanding the. >> -- >> the i.g. doesn't make criminal charges but could determine criminal conduct and refer it for criminal movement by the criminal division to take steps. >> so what he is asking to do is

superfluous. >> again, we were flummoxed. first of all, he didn't say anything bad happened. he thinks maybe something bad happened and he's concerned. i'm sorry he's worried but the fact of the matter is if he's worried he should go back -- he's the attorney general. he could satisfy his worried internally and he should not be going on national tv in front of a congressional hearing and speculating and worrying aloud. it is just -- it is so inappropriate and dangerous to be perfectly honest. this is a man who has said that he's so worried about of 6-e grand jury material getting out and it could harm people and this is not investigative and he is speculating about something that may or may not happen. harkening back to the vietnam era, i don't know what that means. one more point, the attorney general guidelines which is where these predicates and other

things exist, have changed a lot. he hasn't been in the justice department since a decade before 9/11. they changed. and i don't think that is a standard any more. yeah. >> vicki duval, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. speaking about the justice department, breaking news. out of doj, president obama's former white house counsel has been indicted today. and tom perez is our here with our details. so tell me more. >> reporter: this is greg craig who as you mentioned served as the white house counsel under president obama. and this is a case that began under the mueller investigation. this is part of the special counsel investigation. and it began looking into some of his activities that he was doing representing the former regime in ukraine. according to the indictment that was returned today, greg craig lied when he met with the justice department fara unit,

the unit at the national security division that enforces the foreign agent registration act and at the time he was doing work for ukraine in 2013, according to the prosecutors, he misled them. he provided false information to those officials and the lawyers at the justice department. again, this is a case of began under the mueller investigation and taken an unusual route back here because it was first referred to the southern district of new york where prosecutors there examined it and spent some time and some months investigating this, brooke, before deciding that they didn't want to bring the case. it was returned back to the washington u.s. attorney's office and that is where the indictment was finally returned. so we expect that greg craig is probably going to be in court tomorrow at the earliest. again, he's fighting these charges. he has been -- his lawyers met with the justice department in recent weeks trying to see if there was a way to resolve this without bringing these charges but absolutely he decided that

he was not going to plead guilty to a criminal charge. and so that is why these charges were finally brought today, brooke. >> so let me just get this straight. the so-called mueller witch hunt involving the, quote, 13 angry democrats -- just took down obama's white house counsel. doesn't this undermine the president's claim? >> reporter: yeah, i think it does. and i think that is one of the things you'll hear from greg craig whenever he gets to speak is that he'll try to say that essentially the justice department was looking for a democrat to prosecutor as a way to sort of defend itself from the attacks from the president. the president has been claiming this entire investigation was predicated against republicans and they were a bunch of angry democrats going after him as a republican. and here you have, as you said, somebody who is a democrat, life long democrat who worked for the obama presidency and now he's facing these charges.

>> evan perez, thank you. president trump also today weighing in on julian assange. the wikileaks founder who seven-year stay at the embassy in london just came to this abrupt end after british police forcibly removed him partly at the request of the united states and then hours later the justice department announced an indictment against him. so assange now faces one count of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and this is all relatering back to -- relating back to the pakts he made with chelsea manning and officials say assange agreed to help manning crack a password on defense department computers to get access to classified documents. the justice department calls it, quote, one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the united states. but all along, assange and his colleagues have maintained their work was all about the pursuit of truth and journalism. a claim his attorney doubled

down on today. >> this sets a dangerous precedent for media organizations and journalists in europe and elsewhere around the world. this precedent means that any journalist can be extradited for prosecution in the united states to having public lished truth information about the united states. >> and president trump weighed in on this just moments ago. >> do you still love wikileaks? >> i know nothing about wikileaks. it is not my thing. and i know there is something having to do with julian assange. i've been seeing what happened with assange and that will be a determination, i would imagine mostly by the attorney general who is doing an excellent job. so he'll be making a determination. i know nothing about him. it is not my deal in life. >> president trump knows nothing about wikileaks and it is not his thing, he doesn't have an opinion.

roll it. >> this just came out. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. >> another one came in today. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> getting off the plane, they were just announcing new wikileaks and i wanted to stay there but i didn't want to keep you waiting. >> i love reading those wikileaks. >> bradley moss is the deputy director of the james madison project and a private security lawyer who represented many within the intelligence committee including whistleblowers so thank you for joining me today. so let's start with your reaction to today's charges? >> sure, this is nine years in the making. ever since the original leaks came out, ever since we first heard the name bradley ult matsly chelsea manning and the name of julian assange and wiks -- and wikileaks. and we wonder was there any potential charge or criminal liability for julian assange

beyond the espionage act, the receipt and publication of the classified materials that chelsea manning had leaked to him. and today we got that answer. the government finally believes it has enough evidence, enough to convict him at trial beyond a reasonable doubt that he conspired with chelsea manning to hack into government systems and gain access for her beyond what she already had. >> you wrote last fall, bradley, quote, the first amendment and his protection of the free press are more important than punishing assange. but given the indictment states assange agreed to assist manning in cracking a password stored on united states department of defense computers, i'm curious if you still feel that way? >> i'll stand by the original piece and if you -- if people look through it, there is a great piece written in the atlantic last november i added caveats that the first amendment should be protected and if the indictment or charges were merely for the receipt and publication of the materials in

and of itself. ifs th ifs that -- that if that was against the charge that could be against cnn and breitbart or whoever regardless of political views. if there was something such as conspiracy to hack, that was different. that takes it outside of the range. outside of the scope of what journalists are trained to do. journalists are trained not to pay sources. not to help sources hack into systems. that is not something that is protected as a journalistic endeavor. >> no, hack a system and try to cover it up. what about the fact that wikileaks was thought to be one of the centerpieces of whole mueller investigation. so why do you think the special counsel didn't go after julian assange? >> my speculation, and obviously i know nothing more than what i've seen in the media, he didn't have enough to demonstrate any type of conspiracy beyond what we've already seen in the roger stone indictment. we know that roger stone was trying to coordinate with wikileaks. that there was a belief in the trump campaign that roger stone

had a link, had behind the scenes knowledge from wikileaks. but a lot of it appeared to be mr. stone spewing out b.s. to make himself look more important and i have assume mr. mueller didn't have anything to demonstrate there was more to it than that. >> and we know that assange faces this may 2nd extradition hearing. how does that go down? >> so the u.s. government will submit a packet to the british authorities if they haven't already done so and outline the basis for extradition and the nature of the offense in the unsealed indictment and assurances that there won't be any issue of the death penalty probably and anything along those lines, trying to preemptively address any mental health concerns or medical concerns that julian assange will raise or the perk constitution issues they know julian assange will raise in an attempt to prevent extradition which i will assume to fail. >> bradley moss, good to have

you on. coming up next, north korea issuing a new threat just as president trump sits down in the oval office with the leader of south korea. what he said about the prospect of a third summit with kim jong-un. and michael avenatti. the attorney who made his name going after president trump now facing 36 charges of his own from everything from wire fraud to embezzlement. and later the ceo of j.p. morgan chase stumped by a california lawmaker who grilled him about the starting salary for his employees. that freshman democrat katie porter joins me life. plants capture co2. what if other kinds of plants captured it too? if these industrial plants had technology that captured carbon like trees

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we're back, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. today president trump holding a high stakes oval office meeting with his counterpart in south korea, moon jae-in, both meeting face-to-face for the first time since the february failed summit with north korea and as kim jong-un unleashes this fresh threat to use his nuclear weapons. still president trump said he's

open to a third summit. >> i enjoyed the summits. i enjoyed being with the chairman. i think it's been very productive. and it really is, it is a step by step. not going to go fast. i've been telling you that for a long time. if it goes fast, it won't be the proper deal. >> a three-way summit with the leaders -- >> that could happen also. that is largely dependent on chairman kim. >> jill lee is from the center for korean history at the woodrow wilson center and also the very first associated press bureau chief based in pyongyang, north korea. so nice to have you back. let me begin with the president's words. he said, quote, it is up to kim. up to kim. is it odd that he's ceding that decision to north korea? >> what he's saying is that he wants kim jong-un to make that decision, to give up more of his nuclear program. if he wants this process to move forward. we don't know the exact details of what happened in hanoi and

why it is that the president walked away. but i do think that he was incredibly disappointed and frustrated that kim jong-un was as tough as he was and as stubborn as he was on the nuclear program. >> why do you think that kim would have, after these massive summits in singapore and then hanoi and this perceived bro-mance je bro-mance choose to go back to the fiery rhetoric. >> they use this rhetoric to make us nervous. they want to create a sense of tension and try to speed up the prose. even though it may seem like he's giving the united states and south korea the cold shoulder, i think he's fairly anxious to get these talks back on track. now there is something very interesting. north korea was scheduled to hold a parliament session on april 11th. so earlier today. they moved that up by a day and i do think that part of that was so they could send a signal to

the u.s. president and the south korea president knowing they would sit down for this summit and know that even though their words are tough, at the end of the summit, at the summit in d.c., that it would result in perhaps getting these talks back on track. it is contradictory as that may seem -- >> it does seem contradictory. >> it is like i'm going to be mean to you but i want to talk to you. there are parallels that i could think of that have nothing to do with foreign policy. but seriously, if you want the talks back on track -- where would talks go from here? >> so we don't know what happened in the meeting today. president moon made this lightning fast trip, less than 24 hours and we saw footage of him leaving the white house and i'm not sure how productive it was but if it did go well it's possible he proposed serving as a wing man or a messenger to suggest that he meet with kim jong-un, and relay what the

options are here to try to get the talks back on track. i'm not saying that is what will happen. i don't have the inside scoop on that but it is quite possible that is the next step. >> always appreciate your analysis jean lee, thank you so much. good to have you back. >> thank you. still ahead here on cnn, the son of a sheriff's deputy has been arrested in louisiana and charged with burning the churches in the parishes and but first the attorney for stormy daniels, michael avenatti allegedly stealing millions from his clients. 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. learn more at retire your risk dot org. hmm. exactly. and doug. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner?

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indictments are shocking. >> they are. there is a 61-page indictment and it goes through the details. some of it very intricate because it involves what prosecutors say is bank fraud, wire fraud, but there is certainly a human face to some of the people involved in this case who prosecutors say are victims of attorney michael avenatti. there is one in particular that got everybody's attention and it is a man who was a paraplegic that he had sued the county of los angeles and he became a paraplegic and went through emotional distress and he got a $4 million settlement. but according to prosecutors michael avenatti took that money and put it in a trust account as attorneys are supposed to do, but then drained that account for his own perm use. here is what the prosecutors -- the u.s. attorney of central district of california had to say about that particular case. >> as it turns out, within

months after receiving the settlement proceeds in early 2015, mr. michael avenatti had drained the entire $4 million payment from his trust account. using significant portions of these funds to finance his coffee business, his auto racing enterprise, and his own personal lifestyle. >> reporter: so you hear there what the prosecutors are saying about that one case. there are several others in the millions of dollars. michael avenatti has responded as you might imagine. he responded on twitter. here is what he said about that particular case, zoning in and honing in on that case, any claim that any money was miss handled is bogus nonsense by way of example, there are many more like this. here is a document mr. johnson signed less than a month ago attesting to my ethics and how this case was handled. and he includes a document that has the signature of the client who was a paraplegic who won the $4 million settlement. i just got off the phone with

that client's new attorney, he said well actually michael should have read through the indictment because that piece of paper is also part of this case. he said that mr. avenatti went to the client, asked him to sign something recently because this idea that he may have defrauded a client of $4 million who is paraplegic cape up in another lawsuit between him and his partner and he knew the media would get hold of it and he went to his house and got his signature for this paraplegic man and at that point the man had no idea that the $4 million had already been paid many years ago. he thought that he had just gotten the money and he was very happy to hear that a settlement had been had. brooke. >> wow, again we showed the tweet, what michael avenatti is saying. if convicted he could face a maximum of 333 years in prison. sara sidner. >> and we should mention, he has said he will be exonerated and

said he is innocent until proven guilty which is how our court system works. >> absolutely. >> but is clear he will fight the charges. >> thank you very much. coming up next, the ceo of jp morgan chase questioned about a employee who can't make ends meet on her salary and the freshman democrat who challenged him joins me live. >> well i appreciate your desire to be helpful but what i would like you to do is provide a way for families to make ends meet so who are little kids who are 6 years old living with their mother aren't going hungry because they are $567 short.

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children and she just stumped a millionaire bank ceo with a simple mass lesson at a house hearing. congresswoman katie porter confronted j.p. morgan ceo jamie dimon about the starting salary for a bank teller, by the name of patricia in her district of irvine, california. >> she had $2,425 a month. she rents a one bedroom apartment, she and her daughter sleep together in the same room in irvine and that will be $1,600 and spends $100 on utility and he has net 725 dpls and she drives a 2008 minivan and $400 for car expenses and gas net $325. the department of agriculture said that a low cost food budget is $400 to leave $77 in the red. she has a cricket cell phone, the cheapest for $40 in the red

$117 a month and after school childcare because the bank is open during normal business hours and that is $450 a month taking her down to negative $567 per month. my question for you, mr. dimon, is how should she manage this budget shortfall while working full time at your bank? >> i -- i don't know that all of your numbers are accurate. that number is a -- a starter job. >> she is a starting employee with a 6-year-old child and her first job. >> you get those jobs out of high school and she may have my job one day. >> but she doesn't have the ability right now to spend your $31 million. >> i'm sympathetic. >> what would you suggest she do. >> i have to think about that. >> would you recommend she take out a jp morgan chase credit card and run a deficit. >> i have to think about it. >> would you recommend that she overdraft at your bank and be

charged overdraft fees. >> i don't know. i would have to think about it. i love to call up and have a conversation about her financial affairs and see if we could be helpful. >> for her to live on less than the minimum that i described. >> just be helpful. >> but i would like for you to preprovide a way to help families make ends meet so a 6-year-old living with their mother aren't going hungry at night because they are $567 short because they are -- we allow no money for clothing or school lunches or medical or prescription drugs, nothing and she's short $567 already. you know how to spend $31 a year in salary and you can't figure out ho make up a $567 a month shortfall. this is a budget problem you cannot solve. >> with us, she does get full medical. we pay 90% of it. and those who give -- >> no deductible. >> there is a deductible. but for people doing wellness

program, the people making under $60,000 a year a $750 account and effectively they have no deductible. >> that is why i didn't put any medical in. i read that in your shareholder report and that is why i didn't include medical expenses but she still is short $567. as are all of your employees in irvine, california. any ideas? okay, moving on. >> again, this is congresswoman katie porter. and so she tweeted after the hearing, jamie dimon said he didn't know if all of my numbers were accurate. here is the math. so he can check. congresswoman porter is with me now. katie porter, a pleasure, welcome. >> thank you so much. >> so, oh, boy, i have a lot four. so let's start with the constituent who you are referencing, patricia, we heard jamie dimon saying he would like to call her and has sympathy for her.

do you think she would want to talk to him. >> patricia is a representative of a number of -- constituents that we heard from and we took the stories of a lot of people who wrote to us and people who i met during my campaign for congress and made a hypothetical to reflect the stories that we heard. so there is no patricia out there but in one way but there are thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of patricias out there. so there are a lot of employees at mr. dimon's bank. he said yesterday that he would think about it. and i hope very much that that is what he's doing today, what can and should a bank do -- a bank saying we have so much capital, we don't know what to do with it, i think the obvious answer is to raise the starting pay at their bank to $20 an hour which is what the competitor bank of america has done. >> i want to ask you about that. but if this is -- let me go back. if this is a hypothetical patricia, where did you or your team get the numbers? >> we went to monster.com and

found a job advertisement, current for jp morgan chase and starting pay was $16.50. we went to the apartment websites, we went to cost of living calculator, the food budget for instance, i took from the u.s. department of agriculture, they have a low cost kind of minimum subsistence budget and i am a move in irvine and i know what it takes to make ends meet and pay for gas. we created a modest budget for her. most of the feedback from folks around the country and from folks in the home district of the 45th is that these numbers are too conservative. i had people calling my office and asking if they news where she rented from so they wanted to get a one bedroom apartment for $1,600. >> no kidding. no kidding. let me ask you back to your point about minimum wage. so some of your colleagues are calling for a $15 minimum wage, calling it a living wage but the

starting salary at jp morgan was $16.50 which is above the democrat target. do you think the living wage proposal should be higher? >> i think $15 is a really appropriate minimum for us to have nationally. because costs do vary around the country. and i think the real issue is if a business is experiencing record profits and paying record salaries to their ceo and their leadership, they should also be paying record salaries to their starting employees. and that is the situation that jp morgan and the other large financial institutions are in. this is a capitalist system and when business is booming as it has been for the large banks in part because of president trump tax cuts then they have the duty to pass down the benefits of the profits to the employees making the profits possible. >> so what do you think it will take to have a jamie dimon raise that wage? >> well, he promised that he would think about it.

he proo-- he repeated that seve times and he's the chair of the business round table, the nation's largest ceos and i took him at his word and i expect him to be thoughtful about it and think about what he can do to make sure that everybody who is working full time at his $2.9 trillion bank is able to put food on the table and make sure they have an apartment and they could afford medical and take care of thi-- of their children and i expect him to show leadership and he said he's a leader in the business community and i expect him to show leadership in this issue. >> did you explain that patricia was a hypothetical, was he clear on that. >> i don't know if he was clear or not. i wasn't able to use the white board in the hearing which is what i wanted to do but it was determined that that would somehow break a rule. which i find a little humorous since one of my colleagues used an air horn recently in the congressional hearing.

i think it would have been helpful for mr. dimon and for the american people to have the white board there and to be able to really see how it was coming down. so -- the point was to give him a problem to solve, that is the set-up of the clip and that part of it got cut because there was a discussion about whether i could or could not use a white board. but i want to illustrate to mr. dimon and to the leaders of the country what kind of hardships regular american families are facing. >> well, he said he will think about it. let us know when he gets back to you. congresswoman katie porter, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> nice to have you on. there is now a suspect in custody for a series of fires at black churches in louisiana. and officials say he is the son of a sheriff's deputy. the pastor from one of the churches will join me live with his reaction next. billions of mouths.

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an arrest has been made in connection with a string of fires over a ten-day period in three black churches in louisiana. investigators say the suspect is this man, 21-year-old holden matthews, the son of a sheriff's deputy where this fire took place. >> this community is >> this community is safe again. we're confident we have the person who is responsible for the three tragic crimes on these churches. and i have to tell you, this investigation is probably one of the most unique arson investigations i've been involved in, in my 33 years in that this was an attack on a house of god.

>> after looking over the suspect's facebook posts, louisiana fire officials released a statement saying the fires may have a possible connection with the genre of music called black metal. black metal has a history associated with church burnings in other parts of the world. so i want to go straight to louisiana to reverend gerald toussant, the pastor at one of these churches that's been lost. mt. pleasant baptist church. reverend, thank you so much for spending time with us. and just, how are you? how is your congregation? >> we're good now. better off now that the light has been shined on this thing and it's come to an end. i'll feel much better. now we can get some rest. >> what do you make of the fact this suspect, this young man is the son of a sheriff's deputy?

>> well, you can get all kind of stuff in family. it's just surprising. you know, with having the law enforcement in the same home with the person that's burning churches, it's kind of unique. >> unique is one way to put it. apparently this young man, according to -- >> yeah, it's puzzling. >> yes, sir. apparently he had white supremacy tendencies and the sheriff's department says the father was entirely shocked. he had no idea. he wasn't the one who turned him in. do you believe that the father would not have known that there wouldn't have been warning signs? >> well, we -- in today's society, i'll tell you that a lot of parents do not check their children's email or their social media. they just allow them to have their secrecies. and it's time that we start doing those things because sometimes we can prevent some of

these things from happening if we get a little nosy as parents. >> what -- these churches, these historic black churches not only like yours and others are gone, but a lot of the folks, ancestors in the community. they were buried in the back. what has this done to your community? >> well, i just come from some of the congregations' home and they were so happy to know that the person who burnt their church down, the building down, was caught. but it's still -- you can still feel the pain and the hurt from them being there because they have a lot of history in the church. and not just some of the ones who are elderly. their mothers and fathers are still buried in the back because you're talking about 145 years of history. so it's painful to know that as i look at the church, the different layers of the walls

that people tried to add to the church and make it look better time after time after time. and all of that has been destroyed. >> reverend toussant, will you rebuild? >> yes, ma'am, i have to rebuild because i have to -- i cannot let the wiles of satan defeat us. we have to rebuild because we have to show that we serve a mighty god. and we have -- we serve a god of restoration. so we have to show that we cannot be defeated by these type of things. >> reverend gerald toussant, i appreciate you. we're thinking about you and your congregation, and thank you for the time. good luck. >> we will continue to pray for our country. god bless you. >> thank you. thank you very much. moments ago, boeing's ceo speaking out about their plans to fix their 737 max jets.

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events. we know we can break this chainlink. it's our responsibility to eliminate this risk. >> tom foreman is with me. tom, he also talked about they've been running test flights with the new system? >> yeah, they have. what they are trying to do is fix the thing they think drove the plane into the ground, make it harder for it to come on and easier for it to be shut off. they've done 96 flights with this updated software. it's performed as designed. and they say they have additional tests planned with the production run as they actually turn it out as a matter of course to make sure that works well. one more thing that's important here. they say that 67% of their customers around the world that buy these planes, airlines around the world, 67% of them have had leaders or pilots in simulators with this new software now. that's been a sticking point all along that they've had simulator time to know how it works and to know how to control it if it

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