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always and always, mom, andrew, margaret, maria, madeline, you made me, you paid the price for it. thank you for the love and guidance as my family. i thank god for the blessings as my family. i wear a uniform every night. i repeat the same slogan every night. thank you for giving me that chance. one down. long way to go. god willing. let's get after it. thank you for watching. cnn tonight with don lemon starts right now. >> happy anniversary and i'm so glad to have you as a friend and partner. you are fortunate. you have a great family and by the way, some really good friends. >> you are a gift. every day. show would never make it if we hadn't made the connection we have. >> yeah. >> it's always existed off camera, but to be with you, to resonate the way we do to deal with things that are so hard to be decent about, good for you for making it happen. >> yeah.
so can we talk? and, again, congratulations. so because of this connection, chris and i are doing this thing this weekend at the 92nd street, we take our show on the road for a little bit to see this. i thought about this, why we connected so much. and this is kind of a sad thing. but i think it's also -- shows people the connector. i remember a couple years ago when your pop passed, right? and i called you, and you said, call me back and i said he's never going to call me back. and we talked in my kitchen and we went out to dinner and you talked to me about the impact your dad had on you and how you spent his last moments. and then i thought about, you know, my sister passing. and we had that connection between us, a loss recently. trying to fight in this crazy world that we live in now and the same medium. we live close to each other. it's really -- i think it's
interesting. it's fascinating. and i love it that we come from two different places in the world, and backgrounds, and these forces have put us together. and we have made the best of it. and i am so proud to have you as a friend. and i'm so happy you're doing well. and i can't wait to spend my sunday night with you so people can get to see us in person. how is that? >> it's a blessing. and i love it. and it's interesting. you know, look, the best stuff that ever happens in this business is stuff you didn't plan for. and we've gotten to the point now where the other night don was at my house, my wife had the kickoff for her magazine, "the purist," and i'm walking around and don is turning around, because he's hearing people saying, where is don, where is don. and i say people are buying all of the time, where is don? i'm buying bait. >> they think it's fake. you're not really friends. >> people are saying it as a friend. where is don lemon. i said, he's right there. [ laughter ] it's all good, man.
you've got to embrace the good. lord knows, we've got to deal with the bad. >> see you tomorrow and see you sunday. >> don't be late, lemon. >> it will be fun. let's get to work. as chris says, let's get after it. i'll say it this one time. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. while the president was basking in the glow of royalty, historying a d historying, hosting a dinner at the u.s. ambassador's official residence and wading right into the middle of british politics, predicting that brexit would and should happen, the subpoena battle that he set in motion is raging on here at home and waiting for him when he returns. the white house ordering hope hicks and former mcginn aid annie donnellson to refuse to turn over documents to the house judiciary committee, sticking to the president's fight all the subpoena strategy. as we learn today that the former british spy behind the
so-called russia dossier has agreed to meet with investigators within weeks. that is according to the newspaper, "the times." think about that for a half second, just a second. the justice department is investigating the investigators. at the president's request. while the president is refusing to let his own people cooperate with investigations. we've said it before. irony is dead. and speaking of a subpoena battle, there is the showdown today between the house judiciary chairman, jerry nadler, and the doj. the justice department offering to turn over a limited set of documents. but not the full, unredacted mueller report. if the committee scraps a vote next week to hold william bar in contempt. so basically, that's a stalling tactic. nadler's response, calling their bluff. as things stand now, the contempt vote is on for today.
a week from today. and that's not the only battle this president has set in motion. there is also his threatened tariffs against mexico. but it looks like a palace rebellion brewing, because multiple republican senators frustrated by the plan. some more than frustrated. >> i really do think there may be enough numbers of people who think we shouldn't be allowing one person to make this decision that we actually may have enough to override a veto on this. >> the president saying this. >> i don't think they will do that. i think if they do, it's foolish. >> and going on to call senate minority leader chuck schumer, who says the president is bluffing, quote, a creep. he tweeted that. at 1:00 in the morning. after dining with royalty, as you do. vintage trump. but today in london, we saw a side of the president that we're not so used to seeing.
charming and complementary to prime minister theresa may even in the face of the brexit disaster driving her out of office. >> perhaps you won't be given the credit you deserve if you do something. but i think you deserve a lot of credit. i really do. i think you deserve a lot of credit. >> this, however, is a side of the president that we're very used to seeing. claiming he only saw people cheering him today when the fact is, protesters were out in force. >> there were thousands of people cheering. and then i heard that there were protests. i said, where are the protests. i don't see any protests. >> now, were those protesters kept out of the president's sight? of course. does he know they were there? sure seems that way. but in case he missed them, there's this for you. and this. and this. we also saw the president not
just wading into his host country's politics but fighting with people he probably shouldn't be with fighting with, like the mayor of london. >> he should be positive, not negative. he's a negative force. not a positive force. >> seriously? he should be positive? not negative? this from the man who may be the most negative force in politics? ever? the man who by the "new york times" count has hurled 598 insults at everyone from the boy scouts to the cast of "hamilton." and there's more. listen to what the president said about opposition leader, jerry mccorbin. >> i think that he is, from where i come from, somewhat of a negative force. i think that the people should look to do things correctly as opposed to criticize. >> hmmm. you're not imagining it. president trump actually said,
and i quote, i think that people should do things correctly. people should do things correctly. yes. yes, they should. things like, you know, just off the top of my head, complying with legal subpoenas from congress. instead of ordering your team to defy any and all subpoenas? this is a whole -- so much of emoluments. all those things. nepotism. all that. and then there's this. the president just cannot let go of the controversy after he called meghan markle, the duchess of sussex, nasty. according to a press statement, "good morning britain" the president says, quote, some of the things that she said, and it's actually on tape, and i said, well, i didn't know she was nasty. i wasn't referring to she's nasty. i said she was nasty about me.
and essentially, i didn't know she was nasty about me. okay, that was a rambling explanation. but you get the gist of what he was saying. the explanation, he was calling her comments about him nasty, not calling her nasty. but then he goes on to say this. she was nasty to me. and that's okay for her to be nasty. it's not good for me to be nasty to her. and i wasn't. so in the middle of trying to explain away what he said, he did it again. i'm going to quote here, okay? just so you know, i'm not making it up. that's okay for her to be manas. that's his quote. the president of the united states, president trump, on the world stage, hurling insults at anybody who doesn't agree with him. wading into his host country's politics and stirring up trouble
back home. but speaking of the world stage, speaking of donald trump's words and how they're perceived around the world, there is this tonight. tonight on the 30th anniversary of the tiananmen massacre, when thousands of pro democracy demonstrators in and around tiananmen square were killed, let's remember what donald trump said about it less than a year later, okay, and this is a quote. when the students poured into tiananmen square, the chinese government almost blew it. then they were vicious, they were horrible. but put it down with strength. that shows the power of strength. our country is being spit on by the rest of the world. the power of strength. that is not the lesson the world took from the bloodshed in tiananmen square. people around the globe watched in horror as china slaughtered
its own people. all because they wanted democracy. but strength, it may be the only thing this president understands. it's why he pals around with strong men and dictators. it's why he joked with china's president about being a king. >> president xi, who is a strong man, i call him king. but he said, i am not king. i said, no, you're president for life and therefore, you're king. he said, huh. huh. i like that. >> this president has a lifelong obsession with wealth and power and the people who wield both. like he does now. but who will he listen to to learn from? the queen, who talked about the lessons of world wars and nations working together for peace? or strong men and dictators? imposing their will on their own people?
for the leader of the free world, the choice should be clear. while the president is on a state visit to the uk, the subpoena battle that he stirred up at home is raging. how is it going to end? that question for philmond, laura coates, and matthew rosenburg, next. so chantix can help you quit slow turkey.rkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. stop chantix and get help right away
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the white house ratcheting up the stonewalling, ordering two former officials to refuse to give documents to congress relating to their work in the west wing. here to discuss, matthew coates and matthew, the white house is directing the former white house official -- white house officials, i should say, hope hicks, and donaldson to with hold documents. it's yet another no from the trump white house. what's going on? >> i think it's pretty clear that that president trump and many around him have decided that with the mueller report was the end of investigations, they are not going to play ball any more. they want the investigations over and they are not going to cooperate. the question now is what is congress going to do about it. they have issued a lot of subpoenas, talking about contempt votes. what will they do to enforce it. at some point, they have to do
something. they're going to look fairly weak in this. and i don't want to make it into a game, but, you know, at some point you issue these subpoenas, they're saying no. what do you need to do to get them to say yes. because it's pretty clear that anoth they're not going to say yes. >> that's clear, to matthew's point, what are you doing if you're conducting an investigation and this is hang. >> the barr comes up, hope hicks comes up, whether you get the unredacted mueller report. if i'm sitting here, i'm saying there is only one thing that counts here. and that is can you get people like don mcgahn, former white house counsel or hope hicks in front of a camera. can you get people to say what happened when you're in the white house. all of this stuff about documents, unredacted mueller report. i think there's a legal issue here. but i think in terms of the american public, until you get somebody in front of a camera to say the president impeded the
investigation like don mcgahn, i don't think this game works. you've got to get people on camera in front of the congress. >> interesting. so laura, is the white house even making an executive privilege claim and would that hold up? >> no, it doesn't appear they are, don. just continuing to say no, we're telling you not to do this. and it's our prerogative, and we're instructing you. because the thought is perhaps some of the material may be content the president of the united states could assert privilege over. the problem with that, don, is he has not drone so in all kba s capacities. so you don't get to have it loom over heads in case you get to do it one day. if you don't assert it, you lose the privilege. and keep in mind, aside from what hope hicks has not been published or from donaldson, if things have been contained and disclosed in the mueller probe. and so if you're trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube now, that's not going to be successful. and yet, still, there is still no moving of the needle away
from congress, saying, listen, we have to act ton this, and i don't feel like it. it's not like bobbi brown here. it's not everyone's prerogative. you actually have to assert a privilege or put up. >> hmmm. i respect anyone who can bring in a bobbi brown reference. [ laughter ] >> i can do what i want to do. >> it's my prerogative. >> i want to drop kim kardashian. i want to drop it. >> well -- anyway, let's get back to this. so, listen, phil, this is for you. the judiciary chairman, nadler, they wanted to delay barr's contempt vote next week. nadler saying he wants to negotiate with them, without those conditions. so what's this stall tactic here? >> i think this -- the stall tactic is in doj -- to doj's advantage. they've got a couple of opportunities here. number one, going back to the difference between the law and
politics, you can talk about documents all you want. i think most of the american people are sitting back, saying i don't really know what the heck you're talking about. there's one other issue nobody talks about, don, that's important here. and that is eventually, the fbi and department of justice are going to conclude the investigations to how this investigation itself was initiated. i'm going to predict to you that that is going to go ugly early. the democrats have a clock ticking. if they can't get things under way before the department of just just takes says here's our problem, when this thing got started about the trump campaign, it was ugly and we're off the to races. the white house will have some real ammo. >> but this isn't making it shorter. they're saying no, he's calling they're bluff, nadler. >> sort. but they're calling bluffs of documents. again, to go back, i would say hold fire, all i want to see is
somebody in front of a camera. forget about the docs. >> laura, why does this contempt threat seem to have leverage over barr and the doj? >> there's two paths. the criminal contempt that would actually go through doj, the u.s. attorney in d.c. obviously, that's not going to happen. the boss is bill barr. but the other side is the civil side. and we've seen two back-to-back opinions where the judicial branch has said, not even close and no cigar here. you actually have to have some support for those things. if you do not have one, you want to flex a pregnarogative. you can't do that. they're concerned about the back-to-back legal opinions issued by a judge, who, of course, is that third coequal branch of government who also imposes a check and balance. also here, of course, remember, the idea of them trying to impose additional conditions on the negotiation process with nadler. remember where nadler sits. it is the house that begins the
articles of impeachment proceedings. it is the house that can have the power that can take it outside of the discussions and the gentleman's agreement and the handshakes and say if we were to begin, an impeachment inquiry, we don't have to do things like have legislative purpose or go to the courts in the same fashion and we have more power than we did today. so they're kenn concerned about the path to the judiciary and should be. >> matthew, let's bring you back in. you speak to people close to christopher seal, often. the ex british spy behind the trump/russia dossier. what are you hearing from "the times" that you will be talking to doj investigators. ? >> what i've been told it's the investigators close to the inspector general investigation and that's who he's going to be talking to. he is incredibly concerned. and maybe obsessed this selection investigation is going to throw
him under the bus. and he is like, look, i saw things that the democrats were paying for. i saw things that seemed frightening to me and alarming. i went to old contacts of the fbi to tell them. i wasn't a paid source in this case. that's his view of it. and that he was simply helping them out. and what they did with it, if they used -- misused it in a pfizer, he had nothing to do with that. which is to a degree true. he was simply a source of information. and i think he's acutely concerned he's going to be thrown under the bus here. >> interesting. why do you think that is? i mean -- that he's concerned he's going to be thrown under the bus? i just wonder -- you say this reporting is going to go bad. >> i think -- >> bad feeling about it. >> let me give you one term from the intelligence business. i'm investigating don lemon. i find a bunch of information from various individuals. if you're conducting opposition research, somebody is paying me
to find opposition information about don lemon. in the intelligence business, i've got to validate that. i need a second source, third source. i need to confirm my information is accurate. i'm going to bet a paycheck when steel gets in front of investigators and they say, how can you confirm to us that the information you acquired in that dossier is true, that he is not going to be able to answer whether he had a second or third source? >> but wasn't he just supposed to gather the information and then the intelligence community is supposed to figure out whether it's true or not? >> no, he's supposed to gather the information and then the republicans or democracy use it in a political ad. this is a preliminary game. >> about the time it got to an investigation. >> correct. >> by the time -- that's not his job to do. >> that's correct. but they're going to say did you confirm your stuff is true and i bet he's going to say no. >> that is interesting when it comes to what happens politically and legally. >> different. >> it's differentia, but still n
accuse people of things they didn't do. >> yeah, but the white house is then going to have an opportunity to say, look, what i told you is true. the steele stuff, nonsense. >> nonsense. thank you all. i appreciate it. so here's a question. why is john dean getting ready to testify in front of the house jewi judiciary committee? he'll explain, next. discover card. hi, do you have a travel card? we do! the discover it® miles card. earn unlimited 1.5 miles on every purchase, plus we'll match your miles at the end of your first year. you'll match my miles? yeah! mile for mile! and no blackout dates or annual fee.
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the white house hoping hope hicks stone walls over dau documents. we're going to talk about all of that, john. we have a lot to talk about. first i want to get your reaction to this continued white house stonewalling, because if we focus on annie donaldson, she was the chief of staff to former white house counsel, don mcgahn, notes being compared to the watergate tapes. for her notes -- her notes to be played, they played a big role in the mueller report. so what do you think about that? clearly, they would be important to any congressional investigation. >> i think they have great value for corroboration. she will have to put them into
evidence somehow. their pure hearsay, the notes. but hearsay doesn't count in a hearing like this. and it's totally admissible. it would be different in a courtroom. but in an impeachment proceeding or fact-finding undertaking like the house is doing now, they're very valuable and i think all these witnesses eventually, don, will appear. >> you know, you're going to testify on the mueller report next week before the house judiciary committee, no subpoena required. how did this come about, john? >> there's a very sophisticated staff that has been quietly retained by jerry nadler, who is a good chairman. he's an experienced member of the that committee. i've known the committee and i've stayed in touch with it for a lot of years. actually, back the last time i was invited to appear, i declined. it was during the clinton
impeachment. and they asked me if i would testify on a panel. and i said no. i said, really, i have nothing to add. and you don't need me as a witness. when they asked me this time, i thought i could bring some perspective and some insights about what happened with the situation much closer today to my experience than what happened with bill clinton. >> did it have anything to do with the whole shaping of the narrative with barr you feel some duty to tell people what the report actually says? >> well, i think that the problem -- they are addressing is the lack of general public knowledge about what's in that report. not many people have read that report. i'm actually listening to it now. there's a very good free audio edition. and i'm curious to see how detailed it is. it looks like it's got everything from the footnotes to the redacted parts. it's by audio books.
and it's well read. >> you had a pivotal role in the watergate investigation. your testimony captivated the country. let's watch. >> how i would present this situation to the president and try to make as dramatic a presentation as i could to tell him how serious i thought the situation was that the coverup continue. i began by telling the president that there was a cancer growing on the presidency. and if the cancer was not removed, the president himself would be killed by it. i also told him that it was important that this cancer be removed immediately. >> so you helped change public opinion. do you think that's a goal for democrats now, educating the public about what's really in the mueller report, or as you said, some people have knowledge because they haven't read it? what's going on? >> i think they're trying to educate the public, actually trying to educate members of congress. i would suspect a very few have probably plowed through that
448-page document. it is not a page-turner. it is written very well. it's outlined in a form that you can really start with the table of contents and get the overview of it all. and then each section, the executive summary of it, is great. so you can work your way into the detail. but what's devastating, don, in volume one, for example, is the 142 contacts between the trump campaign and the russians. now, there may not be a conspiracy, but there's just an unusual amount of contact with the russians by that campaign. very unusual. and then in volume two, the obstruction, five of those cases of obstruction are -- you -- no jury could walk away from them. they're pretty much slam dunks. the other five, a little closer. they need more evidence, because people didn't address all of the facts they had.
so you had to fill in some gaps there. >> john dean, we'll be watching and maybe talk before then. thank you so much for your time. the president on day two of his big state visit to the uk and so far getting mixed reviews. where he deserves credit and where he is up to his old tricks. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? go to the pharmacy counter for powerful... claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray is indicated for 6 symptoms... claritin-d is indicated for 8... including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d. get more.
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we have liftoff. >> today in london, we saw a very different side of president trump. he was gracious and complementary to prime minister treech theresa may. i want you to to listen. >> she's probably a better negotiator than what i am. the deal is teed up. they have to do something. and perhaps you won't be given the credit you deserve, if they do something. i think you deserve a lot of credit. i really do. i think you deserve a lot of credit. >> but the president wasn't all
sweetness and light today. far from it. here to discuss is the former ambassador to nato, nicholas burns. so good to have you on, ambassador. thank you so much. does president trump deserve some credit for being kind and gracious to theresa may today? i mean, they seem to have a pretty good rapport? >> sure, he does. don, this is a largely ceremonial visit to the united kingdom to commemorate the special relationships. the president did fine in the state dinner with her majesty, queen elizabeth ii. he said very nice things to prime minister theresa may, who is two days away from leaving. and i think he'll probably do very well. i'm sure he will, at the beaches in normandy when he commemorates the valor of our troops. but here's the problem. he also attacked saddy khan, the mayor of london, and the mayor of the opposition party of parliament and told the british
people what they should do on brexit and who they should select as the next leader. it's the other side of donald trump, the offensive side and crosses lines that our mothers taught us when you visit someone's house, you are nice to them, but don't tell them what to do. so that's really marred his visit. it's had a tremendously negative impact, as you saw, on the streets of london and the british press. >> you were saying, but also it was this. also it was that. but also he got it wrong when it came to protesters. watch this. >> today when i came, very small. so a lot of is fake news, i hate to say. but you saw the people waving the american flag, waving your flag. it was tremendous spirit. and love. there was great love. it was an alliance. and i didn't see the protesters until just a little while ago and it was a very small group of people put in for political reasons, so it was fake news. >> so it's classic gas lighting
by this president. you can see the protesters. you can see the protests. what does it say when the president of the united states is blatant about lying about protesters on the world stage? >> you have to tell the truth. to be credible. and we're the world leader. and the truth is right there. on cnn and nbc and fox. there's no alternative but to tell the truth. and i think also, don, our president presidents do best overseas when they lead positively. and the president spent a lot of time today criticizing the european union and trying to tear britain apart from the eu. that's going to really anger a lot of europeans. and he spent a lot of time recently embracing the anti democratic populus, like victor orban in hungary and theresa may in months past. and people want to see positive leadership, especially from the strongest country in the world. they don't want to see someone
who brings their own china shop with them. i think that was a theodore roosevelt phrase. >> what kind of message does this send to the allies? >> well, it's a divisive message. and here we are in the 75sth alert s anniversary of d-day. if we have to look at something, it's that the united states succeeded in the second world war, not just because of the valor of our troops, but because we had allies, because britain was with us and canada, and the free polls were with us and the same is true today. our big challenge is to stand up to russia and china. we need the british and the french and the germans and our other allies. and the president has been so dismissive. it's self-defeating for the president to act this way. >> you talk about the way the president acts, that he doesn't get involved in the country's affairs and business and the way he conducts himself. in this trip today, he also met with nigel farage, leader of the
brexit party. that would be something the president would avoid, am i correct? >> definitely. most presidents are very reluctant to meet the opposition leader. but farraj led the entire brexit campaign. and the polls show the population is pretty much split. there might be a slight majority of people who favor staying in the european union. so you can imagine how all those millions of brits feel about our president meeting the guy, nigel farage, who wants to yank the british out of the european union. there is a reason why american presidents don't play favorites and cross lines, because we don't want people -- we wouldn't want people doing that in the united states. we wouldn't want foreign leaders coming to criticize nancy pelosi or mitch mcconnell or the mayor of washington, d.c. but the president did all those things over the last two days. >> and ambassador burns, thank you so much. >> thank you. the entire trump family is
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>> a ring to it. >> so do you think trump is trying to establish themselves as a royal family? >> it seems like it. they just appeared at everything. but the thing is, you can't teach class, don. and i'm afraid class is what the royal family is all about. we saw the trump family on the balcony of buckingham palace taking selfies. yesterday they were all dressed up in their finery, took pictures in front of a sign that said, no photography. so those pictures ended up on instagram. >> let me put that up. don trump jr. tweeted this today. her majesty, the between, truly unforgettable. trips like this are diplomatically sensitive. what do you make of the younger trumps? >> here's the thing. it is unusual for family. it is not unprecedented. in 2016, the colombian president took his adult children along. but i do think it's a little odd. this is a very diplomatically
sensitive trip, given the protesters that are out in force for donald trump. it almost feels like he took them along just to cushion the blow. they're like a security blanket. so he's had them appear at everything with them. he's talked about how it would be nice if the younger generation of trumps could meet with >> i think he would like that. >> he would like that. perhaps who's vying for the kennedy ecrown. >> i had someone at the republican convention in 2016 tell me they're the new ken das. and i said okay. that's a stretch. >> there's one kennedy connection. >> the dynasty of the kennedies? >> no. first lady jacky did get
invited. but what's unusual about this family is the number -- we're not saying the one, two, thirty-two tickets. we're talking about a whole special side of the table for them. just very unusual. dynasties and charity and how you conduct yourself and the legacy you love. lusse lussen, shoo was jacky kennedy. >> we're talking about dynasties. rfk, jared. you have a man -- when he speaks publicly he doesn't remember or doesn't want to comment and you
had a former attorney general, a man of passion and intellect. i don't think they're really on the same level. that's what you'd need to build a dynasty. >> the president told the "sun newspaper" that he wanted ivanka, eric and tiffany to have a visit with prince william and harry. >> first of all you mention philanthropic endeavors. you have the trump boys championing their hunting and big game hunting on twitter and you have william and harry desperately fighter for the african game animals and conservation. thereerant shared ininterests, or endeavors. this is donald trump i think wanted to ingragsiate his family unwhat he sees as a popular culture. they're enjoying a resurgence of
popularity. i think he's perh s perhoping some of that magic is going to rub off. on latwo of the family members were involved in the government and they're question what their involvement is as well so it seems like an opportunity to take the family along on vacation. >> and the one refreshing is such a cool kid. i think it's not unusual because he's searching. so obama girls were teenager at the time. 18 and 15 living with their parents at the time. that's a much different experience and beautiful pictures. >> they're minors and thaub rr travelled along with their parents and not there trying to further their own interests.
they're part of the whole experience i suppose. this just feels so calculated to bring along the whole family. you're questioning to what end? bringing them all unto the state banquet. to me it felt ever so slightly tacky. like it was a ride at disney world. we get to experience buckingham palace. >> they didn't get the picture president they don't want their pictures taken with the trumps. >> we talk about separated from his -- divesting from his businesses and the amulluments clause. there are only two that work the government, one is a son in law and one is a daughter. but to have the ones running the
businesses there -- >> isn't he going to scotland? >> he did on his working visit last year. >> so eric trump is one of the frs os. so he's making sure dad 's res vase is kept. >> you had an interesting assessment about how president trump conducts himself when he's with the queen. >> i think this is what has struck me on this trip. the first time i have seen any level of deference. he's a one-man show. he'd love the pomp and pageantry. but when you see him with the queen, his speech was full of platitudes and afexz. he was falling over himself to compliment the queen. >> perhaps he sees -- >> his mom. >> his mom. >> perhaps. >> there you go. is that for me?
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