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♪ i hope you had the time of your life ♪ [ cheers and applause ] thousands tell hong kong's executive to kill the bill. and president trump accusing "the new york times" for an act of treason for russia's power grid. and stark words by the saudi crown prince after the tanker attacks. warning his country will not hesitate to deal with any threats. we're live to you from atlanta. i'm natalie allen.
our top story. we're following the protests under way right now in hong kong. we have live video for you. huge crowds of people are now marching to hong kong government offices. they are demanding the city chief step down, after she suspended but did not withdraw a controversial expedition bill. they say civil rights are in jeopardy if the bill isn't killed outright. let's go to anna coren. tell us about the crowds you've been seeing, anna. >> we are here in hong kong's legislative council. and that's where the sea of humanity, all dressed in black, this is where they are heading. they started some three kilometers away at victoria park, almost an hour and a half
ago. it's taken a while to get the procession going. and by all reports, there's people getting off of the trains, trying to get to take part in the mass protests. behind me, there are just lines of people heading there. on the other side, is a mass rally that is taking place. over the next hour, we are expecting tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people, to pack this park. so far, natalie, from all reports, this has been a peaceful protest. they are calling for the complete withdrawal of that very controversial bill. we heard from kari lamb yesterday. and she said she would allow the extradition from protesters.
that wasn't good enough. you see the numbers taking to the treatstreets. there's so much more at stake than just an extradition bill. these people are fighting for the freedoms that hong kong has the enjoyed for the last 22 years since the british handover. they are fighting for hong kong's future. let's go to matt rivers who is with the protesters. >> reporter: it's stunning. that's the only way can really describe it. i'm nonthe phone and we don't have a lot of signal because we're using cell phone signals. there's too many people where we are to do a live shot. and that just gives you some idea of the incredible crowds we're seeing here. i'm in a part of the city called
causeway bay. and i'm on a roadway that's usually jam-packed with cars. there's no march happening at the moment because people can't move forward. it's just too crowded. a ton of people where people are standing shoulder-to-shoulder, from one side of the street to the other. that's the scene replicated, as far as i can see. i managed to get a railing to see above the crowd. as far as i can see, going back towards victoria park, and going toward the council building, where you are, i don't see where it ends. there's a ton of people here. as you mentioned, they are wearing black and here with a purpose. in a is, this particular
protest, is centering on that extradition bill that you mentioned. there's a litany of other things that would say bring them out to the streets now. but it's the extradition bill. they're calling it temporary. they want to see it repealed. in their mind, the chief executive can bring up if bill and pass it down the road. that's why protests like the one that is happen right now in staggering numbers. >> staggering numbers, indeed. last sunday, we saw over 1 million people. protest organizers hoping for a similar number. it's hard to gauge it at this stage. six lanes of highway have been dedicated to protests. they are completely full, making their way to us here at the
legendive council. matt rivers, many thanks for your reporting. joining me now is minnie lee, one of the protesters who took part in a hunger strike, after the violent clash by police. you were hospitalized. you collapsed. tell us what happened. >> i had low blood sugar level and i had a heat stroke after 90 hours, yeah, hunger strike. >> why the hunger strike? >> after 1 million people going out to the street to protest again this bill, and they continue to ignore our voice, what else can we do? it's the only thing i can imagine i can do. i'm not that strong, that i can go to the front, to fight against the police. i can't do that. but i can sit there and use my
life to protest. yeah. >> that's amazing. we've seen so much courage from hong kongers over this past week. obviously, this last sunday, the extraordinary display, 1 million people turning out. on wednesday, tens of thousands of people. and then, the violent, ugly clashes with police. what is at stake for you and for your future? >> because i was born in china. so, i have known too well about how the legal system is in china. it's not transparent. it's not justice. i don't want the rule of hong kong to be broken by this bill. a old are on this rule of law system and they can make anyone out of that. that's not good. >> they talk about a firewall
between hong kong and mainland china. how that would be eroded. she was determined to push it through quickly. it was the violent clashes and the condemnation that followed that forced her to suspend it. that's not good enough for you? >> no. i don't think so. we asked for withdrawl. not suspending it. it's not about whether we should withdrawal it or not. the government has beaten our children, thrown them into jail. that's not what we want to see. the hong kong today is not what we know before. now, we need to defend hong kong. we need her to promise that she will suspend this bill.
we don't want another umbrella movement, being beaten, and being shot by teargas. >> you will continue to fight for hong kong with your life. >> thank you. now, joining us from the hong kong bureau, is michael tian. michael, you've seen the pictures and the scenes of the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, if not more, that have taken to the streets, again this sunday, to protest against that extradition bill. the people want it withdrawn. will it be withdrawn? >> i think i'm in a position to get everybody who is watching this a complete perspective of what this issue is all about.
in the last 20 years, the chief executive's previous three predecessors have avoided the issue of plugging the loophole of criminals of many countries in the world committing offences and coming to hong kong and remain untouched. we signed an extradition bill. so, she wanted to take on this impossible challenge. and she made the strategic mistake, by tieing this with a murder case and trying to rush it through. the case of the taiwan murder case needs to happen -- >> i understand, the suspect could be related. >> the lady you interview, says they worry about the deterioration of the rule of
law. >> michael, i'm going to challenge you here because during the handover back in 1997, the british government deliberately did not include an extradition law to mainland china because they did not trust that they had an independent judiciary. you know think don't have an independent judiciary. they answer to the party. what makes you think that the one country/two systems, that is slowly eroding. that by 2027, what makes that stay in place? >> a lot of the progress they made in china. you're right. there's a big gap between hong kong and dhchina. i'm not supporting this bill. as a beijing lawmaker, i may be the only one, proposing a specific detail in the bill where the hong kong court try
the criminals locally in hong kong. give us extraterritorial extradition. this is one thing the government has turned down. my proposal has 60% from the people. the toll on the government bill is almost 50% accept, 20% support. that's a perfect chance to plug the loophole, which she can do and she passed this up. that resulted in this. >> beijing supported her yesterday, after she made that announcement. they said we support her decision. do you think that her time is running out? that she has lost the
credibility, and lost the faith of the people. >> she works hard. she made a mistake this time, in terms of the judgment and the strategy, of taking this challenge up. what happened was, she started this whole thing, beijing supported her. and now, this becomes untenable. and beijing has to support her so-called backing off. and i think there's serious consequences. >> okay. michael tien, we have to leave it there. michael tien, part of the pro-beijing block. a lot of passion. some are saying they're willing to put their life on the line for the future of their country.
there's this block that is in line with beijing. there's serious concerns about what that would mean for the future of hong kong. people feel that humans are being e roaded. by the time that 27 comes along, that hong kong should be another charge city. these mass demonstrations, they are fighting for hong kong's freedoms and also fighting for their future. >> it is a tremendous story. we'll continue to follow it, of course, in the next few hours as th they march. it is not a march because they cannot move. we'll see you again. we move on to other news next. much has been made of russia attacking u.s. computer systems. but now, there are reports the u.s. is doing the same. we'll look at what the u.s. may
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we continue to bring you the updates on the breaking news out of hong kong. a mass protest under way now against the controversial extradition bill. huge crowds are going through the city, demanding hong kong's chief fully withdraw the bill and to resign. she suspended the bill and defended it, saying it has merit. activists fear the bill could give china too much control over hong kong and chip away at the city's basic freedoms. we'll continue to follow it for you the next couple hours and beyond. other news we're following, "the new york times" reports the united states is stepping up its cyber attacks on russia. according to the paper, the u.s. is targeting the russian power
grid, and has placed potentially crippling malware inside the system. the report adds that u.s.'s donald trump has not been briefed in detail because of concerns he may shut it down or share the information with russia or other foreign officials, something he has done before. mr. trump fired back, calling the article false and an act of treason, saying he will do -- the media will do or say whatever it takes without the slightest thought of consequence. jim sciutto just wrote a book on russia and cyber attacks called "the cyber war."
here's the conversation. >> it shows you that there's a level of conflicts that are under way in cyberspace and on a number of other fronts, between the u.s. and russia, that the american public isn't aware of. we've known for years that russia has attempted to, with some success, and china, too, i should note. to penetrate infrastructure in the u.s. this shows the u.s. responding, not necessarily turning those weapons on but planting weapons, malware, within the russian power grid, that in the event of a conflict, one or two, to send a message, a warning with russia, to say, hey, you mess with us, we're going to mess back with you. in a shows where we are and how serious this conflict is and how serious it can escalate.
not only could they turn the lyings off in new york but we can turn the lights off in moscow. the other part of this is how it feels into the president's approach. the defense department didn't believe that the president would go along with that. in his public comments, he is calling russia not a threat. >> general, is it unusual for the president not to be looped in on something like this? >> it depends. and jim has it exactly right. his book is very good on this. these kinds of the limited stealth operation, dealt with strength in europe, after hacking into the estonia elections, and the effects on some of their infrastructure, beyond the election capability. nato has developed some plans, contingencies to conduct operations. the united states has many, many
plans, which the president probably doesn't know, the excruciating detail of, in terms of contingencies. yes. we have been doing these kinds of stealth operations because you not only have to defend against a cyber attack, there has to be potential for counteroffensive when those attacks occur. that's what "the times" article describes. i draw a little bit of angst when "the times" use the word that we are conducting attacks. we are not. we're preparing for potential attacks. in order to do that, you have to get inside the system. and both governments know that each other is trying to do exactly that. >> and we know the president is supposed to meet one-on-one with vladimir putin at the g-20 summit at the end of the month. is it dangerous for trump to go into that meeting unaware of such an operation. could it come up during that meeting po t ining potentially? >> it might.
and that's the more interesting part of this "new york times" article, that there were some in the defense department or in cyber command, who were concerned about giving explicit details to the president, for fear that he might give the secrets away, in terms of what we're doing. he has been known to do that in the past, with the russian foreign minister, and the israeli prime minister and others. it's never a good sign when you can't really trust some of the other people within your organization, within the administration, to keep secrets that are critically important. the president tends to speak more and listen less. and that's not a good thing to have when you're talking about understanding the vulnerabilities of other nations, your own vulnerabilities and the capability to conduct operations. in our next hour, we look at whether this aggressive strategy by the united states is overdue. i'll speak with a former member of the u.s. international
security council under president obama. saudi arabia is now blaming iran for thursday's tanker attacks in the gulf of oman. he said the international community should take a firm stand against iran. the crew of the knorr region oil tanker has arrived in the united emirates. we have more on this latest development. sam, hello. >> reporter: natalie, as you say, the crew is now all of the crew from the tanker that remains under stow. they were rescued initially by another ship and taken into the care of the iranian authorities. they are reported through their
company to have said, they're extremely well-treated. they're going into 24 hours, of debriefing, with country officials and with emiratety officials. they are out of tep somewhat with the ally. the crown prince, the executive power in the land of skausaudi arabia. pointing a finger at iran for the attacks on two ships in the gulf on this thursday. now, the saudis have made this point before. they blamed the attack on four ships in may, which were attacked be bombs or a device in
emerati waltters. they are keeping well away from apportioning blame, they believe a state actor did it. and the same time, the japanese, of course, who own that vessel, with the crew that arrived here, avoiding pointing the finger of blame. >> sam kiley with the latest. we'll continue to follow it. thousands of people are pouring into hong kong city streets, even though the bill they're angry about has been suspended, they say it threatens their civil rights. more about it coming next. also, president trump is taking aim at former vice president joe biden. we explain why that might not be a good political strategy. do you want me to go first or do you want to go first, brea? you can go first. audible reintroduced this whole world to me. so many great stories from amazing people. it makes me want to be better. to be able to connect with the people's stories that i'm listening to. that's inspiration.
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welcome back to our viewers here in the u.s. and all around the world. you're watching "cnn newsroom." i'm natalie allen with our top stories. the u.s. reports the u.s. is ramping up cyber attacks against russia's power grid and has placed potentially crippling malware inside the russian system. the report adds u.s.'s president trump does not briefed about this. and in a tweet, mr. trump called the article false and an act of treason. benjamin netanyahu is having a cabinet meeting to the golan heights to approve a new settlement there. he said it is time to recognize israel's sovereignty over the
region, which israel seized from syria in 1967. mass protests are under way in hong kong. even though carrie lam has suspended the bill they are protesting. they also want lam to step down. let's go back to anna coren. the video we were just seeing there, the aerial shot of the crowds, it's shoulder-to-shoulder people. unbelievable. >> yeah. it is extraordinary. it seems that people have listened to the protesters and turned out hundreds of thousands. we're yet to get a proper number on how many people have turned out. they're arriving here now at the
front of the march, is starting to arrive here at the legislative council, the building behind me. that's where carrie lam the city's chief executive made the announcement yesterday. she would suspend the controversial extradition bill, which would allow for the extradition of suspects to mainland china. the protesters are not satisfied at all with her announcement. they want a complete withdrawal of the bill. and they want her to step down. beijing has said that it's standing by her. that it understands her decision. they don't want to see a repeat of the violence that we saw during the week on wednesday. those ugly clashes with police. certainly here, natalie, it is extremely peaceful. over the coming hours, there will be many more thousands of people filling out the park.
we understand the front of the legendive council at the interest, there's an extreme police presence. to put this all into context, i now want to welcome frank ching. he has been following the story closely. frank, what do you make of the protests and the protests over the past week? >> i don't think these protests are going to have any effect. they will have no impact on carrie lam and her administration. we saw a week ago, a million people protesting. the government, an hour later, said we'll proceed with the bill. it took bloodshed. it took violence in the streets for the government to rethink its position. it seems to me like a million people peacefully marching, has no impact on this government at
a all. it seems like they're acting like they only respond to violence. i think this is a terrible message to be sending to the people of hong kong. >> as you say, they seem to be responding to the violence. and they were violent, ugly clashes that were beamed across the world. there was a great deal of international tension and a great deal of condemnation. why has carrie lam and beijing, for that matter, responded to the violence? >> i think that beijing does not want to see itself in this position. i mean, hong kong is part of china. the world's attention is focused on hong kong over the last few months. and everyone is saying china is behind it. it makes china responsible for everything that stems from this extradition bill. china wanted to call a halt to this. >> does the violence also --
sorry to interrupt. but does the violence also pose a threat to china? they don't want social unrest. if they get a whiff of that on the mainlands, they are concerned that a revolution could take place. and that could certainly uproot the communist party. >> they are certainly concerned about the dissatisfaction of hong kong spreading to the mainland. and this is the 30th anniversary of the tiananmen square uprising. carrie lam said this was her decision. this is not an order from beijing. but beijing wants the unrest brought to a halt. and beijing may have put some pressure on her to end this impasse that is going on. i think it's going to make things very difficult on carrie
lam and her remaining three years. i don't see how she can govern hong kong. >> yeah. there's a great deal of speculation as to whether she will last out her tenure. frank, let me ask you this, is this history repeating this? in 2003, we saw mass demonstrations in hong kong, of people protesting against that national security bill, that bill that would crack down on treason, on sedition. the hong kong government, they backtracked. they did what carrie lam did yesterday. they shelved it. that was 2003. it's now 2019. could we see a similar thing happen with this extradition bill? >> there's similarities and there's differences. in 2003, the then-chief executive could not proceed because he did not have the support in the legislature.
the liberal party withdrew its support. without their support, they could not pass this bill. this time, it's different. carrie lam had the support of legenders. now, after the march ended last sunday, she announced for it to go ahead. they were going to go ahead. all of the prostaters were going to continue to support her. the question of being able to pass, did not arise. then, it was a question of violence developing. maybe spreading into the legislature itself. i think that that's the difference -- >> i can just ask you very, very quickly, if i can ask you quickly, is this ping backing down?
no. it's maybe china persuading carrie lam that she should not continue this any further. she may have come to the same conclusion herself. i can't tell. >> yes. we appreciate your insight and your analysis, many thanks. natalie, as i mentioned before, there's throngs of protesters arriving here, dressed in black. many of them carrying white flowers in honor of that protest that died yesterday. he fell off of a building while hanging a banner saying no extradition to china. this protest at this stage, remaining very peaceful. that's the hope of organizers that it remains a peaceful one. >> we certainly hope so because they are letting their voices be heard. thank you so much, anna coren, for your reporting and giving us
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left. and he's struck with this stuff. he's really stru lly stuck with. >> let's go to scott lewis the founder and editor of e.a. world view. hi, scott. thanks for being with us. >> good morning, natalie. >> let's talk about that. what's the one adviser warns that president trump, being fixated on biden could actually help biden. how do you see it? well, that's the gamble that trump has taken, when he talked about little marco rubio, and burnie sanders and various names for hillary clinton. he's going to use the same strategy, whether an adviser thinks it will work. the question is, is he too focused on biden? biden enters the democratic race with the most name recognition.
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will focus on donald trump. i'm the guy that can take donald trump down. that may be a miscalculation, that since biden entered the race this spring, we have seen others gain on him in the polls. we've seen biden slip to 24%. i don't think joe biden is the anointee to take the nomination. and he's going to have to think about an elizabeth warren or a pete buttigieg, or a bernie sanders or beto o'rourke. if biden keeps thinking it's donald trump, it might be a miscalculation. >> yes. there are many people in this race that could pull away from joe biden. we have seen, even though biden is the front-runner, it seems his support is a little cool.
in other words, people aren't just absolutely stuck on biden. perhaps biden is the one they believe can beat trump. you think part of trump's attacks on biden, also, maybe in small part, because he came from the obama administration? >> oh, that's not a small part. that's a big part. i mean, donald trump is someone who probably doesn't know a lot about many of the candidates in the democratic race. but he will know that biden is someone he has bashed. as i say again, he is in that comfort zone. i think the question is, though, to get it beyond the horse race, look, this should be a campaign about issues. and when are we going to get to the point when we're talking about climate change? when we're talking about health care, when we're talking about education. donald trump's game is not to talk about it issues and keep it on personalities. how do the democrats respond to that? do they get away from a contest
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regrets about the way it was handled. there's no timetable for the bill to be reintroduced. her words were not enough you see right here to appease protesters. they say, as long as the bill exists in any form, it poses a danger to their civil rights. we'll continue to follow developments. we'll have another live report at the top of the hour. right now, we want to focus on severe storms, racing across the central u.s., spawning tornadoes and triggering productive winds and hail. derek van dam joins us with the latest on this. it seems like this is constant. >> may is difficult for the central u.s. we went into a lull. now, we're starting to get into an active period. saturday was difficult in india indiana. let's take you to bloomington. this is south of the indianapolis region. you'll see a tornado caught on camera here, in someone's backyard, quite frankly. not the site you want to see if
you step outside. those are ominous-looking clouds. there's the funnel cloud reaching down and the wall cloud, too. this storm system produced a likely prn lly tornado. the weather service will assess the damage and report back. nonetheless, very active. get to the graphics. you'll be able to see we have had 18 tornado reports confirmed across the central u.s. several occurring across indiana. we've seen reports of wind damage, a lot of the storms that are fired ed off across the cel u.s. are straightline winds. the national radar, let's zoom into the indianapolis region. you can see some of the storms that have impacted this region in the last 24 hours. there's bloomington. that's where the tornado footage
came to. look at salt lake city, there's a bowing in the radar. there's strong winds associated with the line of storms that move through late saturday evening. there's reports of 70-mile-per-hour to 80-mile-per-hour wind gusts. they've had a tough spring season to say the least. here are the areas that are anticipating severe weather today. central portions of texas, dallas to houston. you can see marginal risk across the tennessee valley. damaging winds and large hail, that's the main concern. maybe an isolated tornado. best chances for some of the straight line winds, once again. we work toward the mid-atlantic in the workweek. that's when we have chances for severe storms. you can see the storms firing up across noon. and a lot of rainfall associated with these, as well, could create localized flash flooding. you can see the rain through the parts of next week.
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