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>> where? >> back to the future. >> he might end up going in a completely different direction. hello on this father's day. they are getting a rerun over the at trump campaign headquarters. the president is unhappy that unflattering numbers were leaked to media outlets. a person familiar with the purge says the firing is less about the bad numbers but calming the president down. it had biden leading in florida by seven points. in texas, a republican stronghold, the numbers showed the president leading but only
by two points. all this bad news comes as the trump campaign plans to launch its rebid in orlando. there's a report that people are concerned about containing the leak rather than why there are such bad numbers, and firing people is not going to address the problem. >> that's who president trump is, he's keen on imagery and not happy about the poll numbers. this goes back last week when the president was lagging in internal polling. ultimately the president denied that was a story and called it fake news. that's why the two pollsters for the campaign are out of a job.
the president is not standing, it's not a great picture for them. joe biden, sarah sanders, and warren, and harris and buttigieg all with advantages over president trump right now. there's another poll the president is focused on, this one from "the wall street journal" and nbc news. it shows the percentage of people that believe congress has enough evidence to impeach president trump jumped up 10% in just one month, and important to point out a quarter of those asked also believed there should be a continued investigation on this president, a lot of people clearly feeling the mueller report did not answer all the questions they wanted answered, and the president potentially misread this poll in a tweet. he tweeted out, quote, almost 70% in new poll say don't impeach, so ridiculous to be talking about this subject when all the crimes were committed by
the other side, and the president accusing the democrats of rigging the polling, and it's nowhere near 70%. >> as the investigations continue on capitol hill, we know on wednesday hope hicks is due to give closed door testimony to the house judiciary committee. what do you expect to come of that? >> not many fireworks, and not only is it behind closed doors but we are hearing from white house officials that she is expected to invoke the executive privilege over many subjects, and that's not surprising. this is somebody who is perhaps closer to anybody outside of the trump family to the president, and democrats are not likely to get the answers they want here.
>> sanchboris sanchez at the wh house, thank you. and david gergen, reaction that the trump plan is to fire pollsters after information was leaked. >> we thought we had seen everything and we haven't. it will continue to be this way. one thing the democrats ought to be focused on is that trump people are preparing a much more disciplined campaign than in the past and they built a big war chest, $40 million on hand at this point, and another 40 at the republican national committee, and that's far more than the democrats have that they can mobilize, and he has big professionals going at it early, and what we know that as much as people may like and find intolerable in governing, he has a good ear for the country, and
he knows where -- his savage attack on others are well aimed. the serious question is, we know who donald trump is, he's going to play dirty but can the democrats put somebody on the field who can take him on and beat him? right now there are two polls out today, cbs and from fox that show strength for joe biden that we were not sure was there ten days ago. he had a nasty week, and people thought -- pundits wondered whether he would take a hit below the water line and start sinking, and he has not sunk that much according to the new polls. overall he's holding his own and has a ten-point lead under the fox pole, and he is holding his own over the four other contenders, and what we are
seeing increasingly, as long as there are five-lead democrats in a top tear, essentially, biden, warren, sanders, harris and buttigieg, as lodge as biden can pull above 30%, and nobody can get above that among the others, so that gives him an advantage we have not fully recognized yet. >> fair enough. i want to talk to you more about some of the revelations in the new polling as well. before i move on to talk more about that, i just want to talk about leadership for a moment. the reporting the president's campaign is firing the pollsters because the numbers aren't bad just appease trump, calm him down, and it's not the first time we have heard of staffers trying to prevent people from seeing bad news, and can you effectively lead if you are only
being shown good news? >> no. no, because it will put you out of touch. one of the biggest dangers in the white house is you start living in a bubble. you only hear people that like you and people come into the oval office and shower praise on the president, no matter who the president is, and they get intimidated by being in the oval office. you start living in the bubble and you can make terrible mistakes. it's also true, though, there are other issues, there's the question of honesty and trust. bottom line for presidents is that trust is still the coin of the realm. it's an old-fashioned thing to think about. if you want to be an effective leader in the country, which is a fractured country now, you have to have people trust you. that's why these reports of the white house and the state department are pushing on iran, they are culprits in the gulf going after the tankers and that sort of thing, and a lot of
people are skeptical coming from those sources. >> there's a credibility issue there. >> let's dig deeper into the poll numbers. you talked about the good and bad for the president in the numbers. more voters say they are enthusiastic to vote for the president, he gets 23% while warren, biden, sanders get half that. the bad news is that half of the country, 52%, say they would be very uncomfortable voting for the president. what does that tell you, david, that more than half of registered voters would feel very uncomfortable if trump were re-elected, and yet in the same poll he has more enthusiasm behind him. what do you think will matter when it comes to the 2020 election? >> maybe 30% or higher who do
believe in trump and they will go to bat for him and walk through fire with him, and they believe he is delivered way beyond what any other president has delivered for them and they are not enough to win an election. if you saw those numbers when trump was running for election the first time, and people said 52% said they were uncomfortable, well, that probably would not matter as much because things are still fluid when you first are running for president and they are sizing them up and you can convince them through your actions, but the problem for the president is he has had more than two years, and views solidified on both sides, and there's another minority, which is pretty big that hates him, despises him and wants him out of there. there's not much in the middle to play with for the president. that's why he's having a hard time getting above 42% approval. you can't win with 42% approval unless you out fox and out play
the democrats in the campaign itself and you always have to keep that possibility open in your mind. >> the president believes he's going to win the next election, at least that's what he says and this is what he is tweeting as well. he writes today at the end of six years, after america has been great again and i leave the beautiful white house, and in parentheses he writes, do you think people would demand i stay longer? this is not the first time the president has joked, we think, about staying in his office longer than his term, do you think this is really a joke, david, or could it turn into something more serious? michael cohen warned about this unoath? >> he has been dangling this and it's half serious and half joking, and i think there's a notion in case there's a
situation where the court gets involved and i can see him making a big pitch to stay in. it's what strong men do, and i certainly don't think that he wants to leave office if there's some possibility that he would be prosecuted. the day he becomes a civilian again. he has incentives, but it takes a constitutional amendment to allow him to stay on into a third term and he ain't got the votes on that. >> david gergen, always happy to have you with us. happy father's day, too. >> thank you. coming up, a virtual act of treason? president trump pushing back on the reports that the u.s. is ramping up on attacks on russia's power grid without him even knowing about it. really helped me up my game. i had a coach. math. ooh.
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security analyst. sam, the new yo"the new york ti there were no national security concerns about this reporting. what do you make of it? >> he did not mention the real culprit here. vladimir putin. russia has launched attacks against the power grids and electric grids, and residential homes, that's why president trump reportedly himself authorized these kinds of attacks of russian targets, and congress passed their own bills authorizing these attacks and tried to use sanctions to hold russia accountable to see what they are doing. it could be because he said officials don't trust him, but what i want to know is how has
he not been briefed on these types of situations. figuring out what powers are doing. >> the president has time and again said don't believe the intelligence when it comes to russia's enter veinterference, intelligence is telling us iran was involved in the tanker attacks, and he is saying believe the intelligence this time. >> believe it this time. trump has made his own bed to an extent and now he has to lie in it. he casts doubt on intelligence communities, and he called it not even passive because it didn't fit in his personal agenda. now he's saying believe the intelligence committee, and he with draws from international
agreements on the spur of the moment, and we built a coalition to hold iran accountable because of their nuclear issues, the iran deal, and he broke his word on that, too. and he tells us not to trust the media, and he uses the phrase fake news almost every day and he's telling everybody this time he's telling people to trust the media on the iran deal. his team will have to work so much harder. >> we just learned the president's national security team is expected to discuss this week whether to send more u.s. forces to the middle east after the attacks in the gulf of oman. >> let's not forget all the other threats they are having to
deal with. there are conventional military risks overseas, and iranian proxies are launching rockets into saudi arabia from yemen and into israel from gaza and other locations. at the same time we know iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism and one of the largest cyber risks facing the united states facing our intelligence community, and iran is likely closer to a nuclear weapon today than when president trump assumed office. they said they are increasing their production of enriched uranium and threatening to go closer to a weapon because trump violated the iran deal, and trump readded a nuclear threat to what his team has to work on. >> thank you so much. >> thanks. the mayor of phoenix is apologizing after a viral video of police threatening to shoot a father who was with his pregnant fiance and two young daughters.
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daughter had taken a doll out of the store. later in the police report it says when they did interview the man, he said he shoplifted underwear but threw them out the window because he was scared, and it is the video that has people upset. you can see on one man the man is pulled out of the car and he is on the ground getting handcuffed and up against the police vehicle, and looks like the officer sweeps his legs out from under him, and in the meantime his fiance getting out with a baby and 4-year-old, and she gives the baby to a stranger as well as the 4-year-old. they are saying the 4-year-old is having nightmares and wetting the bed because she is terrified of what happened. the woman in the car said, quote, to cnn, i thought he was going to shoot me in front of the kids. people are upset because of the excessive use of force that was used because of the shoplifting
call, and at the same time, the mayor apologized and saying every precinct would have body cameras, and that is by august so that's speeding up the timeline, and then the police chief herself coming out and saying she has called for an immediate investigation and she was disturbed by the language and actions by the officers, and a lot of people upset that this young family had a gun drawn on them, especially a woman that was 5 months pregnant along with their two daughters. long before he was running for president, joe biden ran against a much older opponent for senate. >> i am a 29-year-old odd ball. >> have the tables turned?
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the remarkable demonstrations are increasing pressure on chinese president's xi jinping. is age a factor in the 2020 race? well, it depends on who you ask. democratic frontrunner, joe biden and president trump have traded barbs over their ages. take a listen. >> i am a young vibrant man. i look at joe, and i don't know about him. >> if he looks young and vibrant compared to me, i should probably go home. >> cnn's jessica dean reports, that was not the first time biden used age against his political opponent. watch. >> they say age is just a number. >> i am an akna 25-year-old odd.
>> during his first senate campaign, biden made his youthfulness central to his campaign. his opponent was a 62-year-old. we have a new crime problem in this country, and we need new thinking, one biden ad read, using the tag line, he understands what is happening today. now nearly five decades later the 76-year-old biden's age is once again a factor. >> it's a legitimate question to ask about my age, the same question was asked to me was i old enough when i old enough at age 29 if i was old enough to serve. and with age comes wisdom and experience that can make things
a lot better, but, look, that's for you all to decide and not for me to decide. >> this is hard the first time age has been an issue in a presidential race. >> i will not make an age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> there's a certain amount of irony in this 2020 place biden's political opponents to make their own case by fresh leadership. >> we are not going to win by promising the return to the '90s. >> does joe biden represent the future? >> i don't think so. i think it's time for a new generation of leadership. >> i want to be the america of ten years back, 20 years back or
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kim kardashian west is pushing to help inmates released from prison succeed on the out side. she met with the president to encourage hiring former inmates. >> these people want to work, they want the best outcome and i just want to thank the president for really standing behind this issue and seeing the passion he
has had for criminal justice has been remarkable. >> the unemployment rate among former inmates is 27%, and that's five times that of the general public. president trump says he plans to get that unemployment down to single digits within five years. this is not kardashian's first effort working with the president on behalf of prisoners. jones, host of the redemption project here on cnn. he was involved in the crime reform bill that passed last year. he joins us now. van, you talked extensively with kim kardashian west. what obstacles do former inmates face when it comes to getting hired? >> people leave a physical prison after they served their time, they made their mistake and bad decision and paid for that, and then they enter a social prison, and it's hard for them to get a job and rent an
apartment and get student loans, and suddenly if the government can't help you and you can't get a job you wind up in the revolvi revolving door going back to prison, and kim has gone to prison and talking to people and studying to become a lawyer, and there's practical problems like i can't get to a job interview, and i just got out of prison and don't have a driver's license. she worked with a ridesharing platform to help people get to their job interviews. listen, she is somebody who her dad was a lawyer and did this stuff before. she thought she was going to be like her dad and wound up being a celebrity, and she's just coming into her true self. >> they are talking about reparations for slavery in the u.s. does this speak to your mission of restoredness.
>> i am a ninth generation american. i am the first person in my family that was born with all my rights recognized with this government, think about that. nine generations. my parents were born under segregations. if your family had been hurt for nine generations, it might have an impact on you today and what can we do about that and talk about that, and how do you make it where people who are white americans and maybe their families got here two generations before, they did something like, you did something wrong. my parents came over from france or england two generations ago. it's not about punishing white people, it's about to make sure african-americans having our pain recognized. >> on tonight's show you introduce us to a family, the father was shot and killed while
trying to stpaop a robbery in progress. let's take a look. >> my father saved that lady's life. he was a hero. >> my father was not killed by the firearm, he was killed by the person behind the gun. >> i think they see me as a monster. i don't know how they are going to feel when they see me for the first time. >> he has no way of knowing the anguish that i felt for ten years. >> i have been wanting to say something for a long time, and this is something that needs to be done. >> i will know if he's really remorseful or not. if he's not, then we have problems. >> van, what kind of impact has mario's murderer had on his family and why do they want to meet with their father's killer now? >> this is the last episode in an eight-episode arc called
redemption, if you want to be uplifted and inspired, tune in tonight. we are working hard to bring people together across the lines of pain. listen, we fight and argue in this country about everything from tweets to politics and we don't know how to talk to each other, and we said let's get people who should never talk, people that have real pain between them and see if they can have a conversation, and tonight's show is a mind-blowing show. the brothers have been divided since their father was killed. they have had issues and conflicts. these things tear up families and the brothers come together and try to have a conversation with this person. i will not give away the ending because the end of the show has so many twists and turns and surprises. when you see this, you might want to unblock our friends on facebook and reach out and have conversations. we have to figure out some way to come back together. this show, the redemption project shows people who have a
hard time doing it, and hopefully it inspires the rest of us. >> it's the last episode. as you reflect on all the work you put into it, and the way these individual stories impacted you, i remember before we launched this series, we had a conversation and said this project changed my life. you still feel that way? in what way? >> it did, because i realize i am petty, i am a grudge holder, if somebody did something to me from high school, i'm still mad, and then i watch these people, and they don't always try but it's so beautiful, and i have seen a 99% good response on twitter, and people said this show is life changing. the most common thing, transformative, life changing thank you so much. deep down we want the hunger, we have the hunger, how do we come
back together and how do we hold each other and help each other, and that's what the series is about. i am very proud of it. the reaction of the public to the series has been as impactful as doing the series, and i have much more faith in people and the power of forgiveness than i did before. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> it airs tonight at 9:00 here on cnn, and i hope van can still hear me because i went to say happy father's day. >> thank you, thank you. i hear you. >> good. so glad. thank you again for spending time with us. >> thank you. >> enjoy the rest of your special day. coming up, the mysterious melania trump. cnn gets rare access inside the east wing to hear from those that know the first lady best. >> she's very reclusive. >> melania trump is never holden to the ways of broadcasting everything you are thinking and
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>> ladies and gentlemen, the first lady of the united states, mrs. melania trump. >> she's the most unusual first lady in modern history. >> she's very reclusive. >> she's never beholden to the washington ways of broadcasting everything you are thinking and doing. >> there are rumors that mrs. trump does not live in this white house. >> good morning. >> she's forging her own path. >> the president warned her that people are going to attack you about this. >> flying under the radar. >> still no sighting of the first lady. >> setting her own trends. >> everybody has a different taste. >> the jacket -- >> the jacket -- >> this jacket. >> i don't think she can shake it. >> not to mention, coping with the intense scrutiny of her
marriage. >> i get the feeling that she cares less about what people think than any of her predecessors. >> white house reporter kate bennett joins us with more on her special report, "woman of mystery, melania trump." she didn't seek out such a public role as first lady. now that the president is about to launch his re-election bid on tuesday, any chance she will be taking a more active part this time around? >> i mean, just looking at the past, the campaign for his first presidency as well as the m midterms, i don't think so. campaigning, getting on the stump, being away if her son, those are things that melania trump typically doesn't do a lot of. i don't think -- she will be at the rally in florida this week. she's not -- i don't think she's going to give remarks. we're not going to see her on the trail as much as ivanka or don junior or eric.
>> part of your special takes a look at the trump marriage, which is by most standards unorthodox. let's listen. >> he is termed, bold and decisive. he is also compassionate, giving and loving. donald cares -- >> she's is an incredibly important honest adviser who expects nothing from the president except his success. >> yet images and accounts of the marriage in the white house seem to paint a very different picture. >> the first first couple since the kennedys to have separate bedrooms. laura bush would say that she was anchored to her husband. michelle obama and president obama, there was a magnetism there.
donald trump is not -- he doesn't open the door for her. >> there have been other awkward moments caught on camera. the much buzzed about melania hand swats. >> she famously swatted her husband's hand away. doing things that most first ladies would never let cameras see. >> yes, mr. trump often compliments his wife. this past week, he compared her to jackie o., which most women would find flattering. what insight do you have into their relationship? >> you never really know what's going on in someone's marriage or relationship. i do think that the first couple has a marriage that they both are invested in. they speak daily on the phone when they're not together. they talk. they communicate. it might not be traditional in
the sense that people have sort of a dreamed up notion of marriage. we came off eight years of the obamas who were open about it in public and on social media. the trumps are not like that. melania has been with donald trump for 20 years. they started dating in 1998. certainly, this is a man that she's come to accept. i cringe every time i see the umbrella with him holding it over her head and not hers. everyone's relationship is different. this is something she's invested in. >> quick, i want to ask you about melania trump's spokeswoman who is talked about as the possible replacement to sarah sanders. what can you tell us about her and what she would bring to the role? >> i think she's a very good chance to be named white house press secretary. she started on the campaign. she's been in the room many times when the president and the first lady are around.
we could see her in that role. i think it might happen. >> thank you, kate bennett. we appreciate you joining us and look forward to the special. join kate for a rare visit to the white house to meet those who know first lady melania report. "woman of mystery, melania trump" airs tonight at 8:00. we'll be right back. (gasp) (singsong) budget meeting! sweet. if you compare last quarter to this quarter... various: mmm. it's no wonder everything seems a little better with the creamy taste of philly, made with fresh milk and real cream. and relief from symptoms caused feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin with the creamy taste of philly, by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear.
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report "woman of mystery, melania trump." the following is a cnn special report. >> ladies and gentlemen, the first lady of the united states, mrs. melania trump. >> she's the most unusual first lady in modern history. >> she's very reclusive. >> melania trump is never beholden to the washington ways of broadcasting everything you are thinking and doing. >> there are persistent resumers that mrs. trump does not live in this white house. >> good morning. >> she's forging her own path. >> the president warned her that people are going to attack you about this. >>