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from surgeries back up in boston. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. let's go to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. well, that escalated quickly. "the lead" starts right now. after a contentious debate, the power rankings could be shifting. senator kamala harris stands out on the stage. who might have the next break-out moment. and candidate cory booker will join me in minutes. and joe biden forced to defend his record after a tough debate. one campaign ally said the former vp knows he has to do better. >> and president trump turned a coordinated cyber attack on the u.s. into a punch looip -- punchline with putin after it was suggested his election is illegitimate. >> i'm brianna keilar in for jake tapper.
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wee begin with the 2020 lead and kamala harris making a moment for herself in last night's democratic debate and going for former vice president joe biden. the harris campaign said their fundraising has boomed post-debate and one democratic source close to biden is calling the debate performance not great. now as cnn's kyung lah reporting, he's defending his record after getting quite a bruising. >> reporter: the day after the debate, joe biden defending his record on civil rights. >> i respect kamala harris but a 60-second exchange on debate can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. >> and a civil rights organization. >> i never opposed volunteer busing. >> reporter: kamala harris
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challenged his past about desegregation of schools. >> there was a little girl in california part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day. and that little girl was me. >> what is it that turned tonight and made you discuss that? >> i just think that on some of the issues, it's that the american public deserves to know how we come at our priorities. there are millions of people in our country who have perm experiences with this and that voice needs to be on the stage. >> a break-out moment fuelling a throwback tweet and making headlines. fundraising jumps said the harris campaign to the third best day. >> america doesn't want to witness a food fight, they want to know how we're going to put food on their table. >> reporter: supporters wished harris well. >> good luck. >> reporter: back on the trail just hours after the debate. 2020 hopefuls with an army of media staged a visit to the homestead facility. >> they refused our entry and we
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asked for entry and they refused. >> reporter: they didn't follow known protocol attempting to visit the children to highlight the trump administration policy. >> we need a new president of the united states. >> reporter: but harris had a debate stumble of her own. >> who here would abolish private health insurance in favor of a government-run plan? >> reporter: after the debate harris tried to explain her answer. >> so the question was, would you be willing to give your private insurance. >> that is not how it was asked. if that is what you heard, right? >> that is certainly what i heard. >> the kpl-- the medicare for a plan would eliminate private insurance with few exceptions such as elective surgery not covered by the federal plan and the topic has tripped her before. >> i don't know if your insurance company will approve this. >> let's get rid of the
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bureaucracy. >> not the insurance companies. >> no, that is not what i meant. i know it was interpreted that way. >> reporter: now the debate also challenged mayor pete buttigieg asked about the officer-involved shooting in the town that he is mayor of, south bend. the question was why black representation of police officers has not improved while he has been mayor. and brianna, he said bluntly, because i couldn't get it done. brianna. >> he was very blunt. kyung lah, thank you for that report. let's talk about this. so this is a moment -- we'll talk about the joe biden side of this. but kamala harris had this moment. can she capitalize on this? >> i think she has. it was an important moment for her to sort of make her case about the importance of this issue particularly given she's had some criticism from the left on her record as a prosecutor and this is a very personal issue for her and i could say having gone to berkeley public
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schools years after her, it was still messed up. so for her to have such a personal experience with this issue, i think it was critical. and i think it likely gave her the bounce that she's going to need. the question will be how do they keep that momentum going into the next debate. >> he tried to turn the prosecutor/defender thing back on her but it didn't take. so i wonder, there is a source from the -- close to biden who said he's bruised but far from out. do you think, amanda, there is lasting damage here? >> he wasn't recovered well. even today watching surrogates, they don't have the right answer. the reason that was such a powerful moment last night is because kamala harris was speaking from a place of truth. she was saying, this is my experience. this is how i felt. and biden's response was sort of to man-explain. and she could play into a
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broader theme that black women deserved to be listened to. and right now biden isn't showing that he's willing to listen and that is the problem. >> it is more than feelings. it is about facts. he said today and he said last night she mischaracterized my opinion and she was generous and saying you're not racist and if you look what he said in the 1970s, there was horrific claims. he said yesterday i didn't oppose busing. he did. he called busing bankrupt and asinine and tried to get rid of it and he didn't praise segregationist senators and last week he praised them for their civility and gave the eulogy at thurman's funeral and i'm amazed more democrats didn't go after him. kamala harris has an amazing moment and a very powerful debate moment. but others didn't go after him. when iraq came up, rachel maddow brought it up, why didn't bernie
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jump in and say we're the only people in congress and i got it right and you got it wrong and you didn't do it and that is a mistake because kamala harris dominated the headlines and the debate and rightly so. >> i think i have an answer. they don't have to. because they're watching him meltdown. i said last week joe biden will not be the democratic nominee and i believe that every single day. his high water mark was the day he got into the race. this is not a bug, this is a feature, and he is bidening in front of our eyes and when he gets challenged by somebody, this wasn't the major leagues, this is still the first debate. and he has -- not handling it well and his team is not handling it well. this will continue and so why would you let kamala harris take the first shot at him, watch him melt down. >> i meant for yourself. we're talking about her having been this amazing debater, i'm saying what about bernie -- >> there is no debate on cnn and -- >> there are a lot of debates to come, good luck joe biden.
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>> the nerve and the spirit to do that. >> people don't want to alien ate his voters. >> there was another swipe against biden and it was a generational one from eric swalwell. let's listen. >> joe biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to the new generation of americans 33 years ago and he's still right today f. we're going to solve the issues of automation, pass the torch. if we're going to solve the issues of climate chaos, pass the torch, if we're going to pass student loan debt, pass the torch. >> i'm still holding on to that torch. >> well done. >> it is a good line about passing the torch but no one seriously thinks it will be passed to eric swalwell. and i think pete buttigieg was younger. and bernie called it ageist or not, i think there is a thing about politics and democratic politics which is generational. the last two democrats were in
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their 40s, bill clinton and barack obama and jfk and that is an issue for biden, he didn't look like he was in control of anything. >> but in fairness, i feel like biden and bernie seemed out of place. the whole -- and the point about passing the torch, if you looked at the whole stage, he could pass the torch to just about any of the others on the stage. >> marianne williams. >> i said just about. that is a whole other thing. point being there are a number of very qualified people in this race who have wonderful ideas, support progressive politics and support the ideas of the democratic party that you could pass the torch to. >> to be fair to bernie, his ideas. >> not all of them. >> a lot of them. >> not many of them. >> the democratic party sees the public option as a centrist position. >> but back in the '90s -- >> for barack obama. >> but the point i want to get to is the other thing about both bernie and biden is they sounded
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old. when bernie was talking about the assault weapons ban and ran for congress in 1988, and some of the language that biden was using, you don't have to talk about 1988. kids just got shot a week ago. so some of it sounded and felt very old. and so in addition to looking old. >> definitely there was a generational theme. and coming up, a presidential candidate already seen a surge of support since the first debate. senator cory booker is going to join us live. wireless network claims are so confusing.
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tickets not available now or ever. lead. and after two nights of fiery confrontation and policy debates, presidential hopefuls have one month to study performances and plan out the next attacks. and convince as many voters as possible to back the white house bid before the second democratic debate that is hosted by cnn. and joining me now is democratic presidential candidate and new jersey senator cory booker who is seeing a surge of support
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after his debate performance. we're seeing you get a bump in fundraising. are you thinking you're going to get a bump in the polls? >> no, right now the fundraising is key. i hope more people will go to corybooker.com and it is helping us to execute our strategy and build a great organization in the early states and continue the momentum. seven months plus before a vote in iowa alone is a long time here. we're going to focus on getting our message out and building our organization and hoping more people will get involved with me and my mission. >> if you see a poll bounce what, is the takeaway? if you don't, what's the takeaway? >> you know, again, and you know this history, people -- we have not had a nominee since before carter that was leading in the polls this far out that went on to the white house. usually it is people like bill clinton or barack obama who are underestimated, polling behind that win in places like iowa and new hampshire which are often ways to show that you have the ability to win elections in the
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grassroots. so the polling is important. we're polling high enough to be in the top six or seven, to be on the debate stages. i'm hoping we could continue to get momentum because the debate stage for sent is set so much higher with 10,000 unique contributor and we're trying to push people toward corybooker.com and i'm focusing on getting my heart and my vision and plans and passion before voters and more people who get a chance to discover who i am, the better we're going to do. >> i want to ask you about the former vice president. he defended his record on civil rights today. after being grilled about it during last night's debate. let's listen to the former vice president's comments. >> i never, never, never, ever opposed voluntary busing and as a program that senator harris participated in and it made a difference in her life. i did support federal action to
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accuse root problem in the community and including changing the way neighborhoods were segregated. >> we should note he never opposed voluntary busing and he said he never opposed busing period. what is your reaction? >> well, first of all, the record speaks differently from the quotes from the time and i read them, again it is decades ago, problematic and he needs to talk to the record, from the 1994 crime bill, i was a law student and who was being followed or singled out by police that led to the explosion of mass incarceration something that now i'm working in the senate have been drawing back on mandatory minimums and in that crime bill. he has to speak to his record. and the way he speaks about it is important. i've been talking about this for the last two weeks about him invoking language that white segregationists call him son and not boy. without the understanding why that word "boy" was used by
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white segregationist against folks like my father and others that meant to degrade and demean and make them feel less than. the next nominee, whoever they are, has to be up to the challenge to addressing the power dynamics of race and racism and to call our country together to common ground and common purpose. remind us that we have more in common than separates us and we need to work together on issues of justice. you have to be up to that challenge. that is one of the reasons i'm running. because of my history and record for bringing americans together to get things done. >> was he sufficient today in his explanation? >> again, i listened to some of the language that he was using that still kind of worries me that this is a lesson on some of the issues that a nominee at this point shouldn't have to learn and voters have to make their own decision that our diverse party, what keend of
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lead will inspire us to be our best. and none of us, certainly not me, have been perfect or without mistakes. we all do it. but when you make a mistake, don't fall into a defensive crouch, don't try to shift the blame like he said to me, that i owed him an apology for his remarks. that is not what we need right now. part of being courageous is being vulnerable and letting people know you are not perfect. none of us are and risking putting yourself out there and try to be a light to bring people together and i'm hoping that we don't fall into this no apology world that donald trump seems to say when you do nothing wrong and make no mistakes. the best leaders are the ones that step up and say, hey, i don't have a perfect record, i haven't done anything right but stayed in the saddle and continued to work and sacrifice for the greater good and i hope you'll join me in that march. >> senator cory booker, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. president trump is not going to like this one. a certain former president just said he is not -- trump is not a legitimate commander-in-chief.
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committed to civil rights. i never, never, never, ever opposed voluntary busing. >> tom foreman takes a deeper look at the facts surrounding the controversial stance on busing. >> reporter: it is the sharpest attack of the debate. kamala harris lighting into joe biden for opposing racial busing decades ago. >> and there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools. and she was bused to school every day. and that little girl was me. >> reporter: and it brought a quick rebuttal. >> it is a mischaracterization of my position across the board. >> reporter: so what do the facts say? harris was truthful about her childhood growing up in berkeley. she was part of the second elementary school class there to experience busing in the late 1960s, the school tells cnn. as she would eventually write, i only learned later that we were part of a national experiment in
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desegregation and while she, a young black girl attending a mostly white school, joe biden was becoming a u.s. senator. >> around that same time then senator joe biden changed his position on busing and became anti--busing and joined with jesse helms, if you know this. >> i did not know that. >> reporter: but it is true. as courts ordered more schools to promote integration by busing kids from black schools to largely white ones and vice versa, protests often violent broke out coast to coast. and biden, indeed, began pushing back. listen to what he said on this date in 1977. >> i happen to think that the one way to ensure that you set the civil rights movement in america farther back is to continue to push busing because it is a bankrupt policy. >> reporter: and now -- >> i did not oppose bussing in america. what i opposed is busing ordered by the department of education. >> reporter: that split hair
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likely wouldn't satisfy proponents but still biden has promoted civil and voting rights for african-americans and better housing policies to make sure black families with live and go to school where they wish. in short, the record shows biden has fought for racial equality, even as he has refused to embrace the politically contentious reality of busing. joining the chorus of critics who said all along there is just not enough evidence it's benefits out weigh the social upheaval. >> tom forman, thank you. and i want to bring in reporter nia malika henderson and dave chalian. this is a generational divide on this issue? >> i think that is right. you saw folks making the revert generational -- with swalwell saying pass the torch and that is what kamala harris was doing,
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too. here she was a young girl going to the integrated school and bused when joe biden was an adult and pushing against busing. so, yes, this is a generational divide. i think the other way this is a generational divide is in terms of black voters. i talked to folks in south carolina, one of the things that is interesting about the black voters in south carolina is they like joe biden and see him as a loyal partner to obama. they almost see him as part of the family. and folks i talked to said, leave joe biden a -- alone. and this doesn't matter and kamala harris is doing this because she's behind. and these are older, more moderate black voters, particularly black women. younger voters see this differently. they are part of the woke generation, black lives matter and you see the activity on twitter and also this younger generation of black voters are skeptical of kamala harris too because of her record as a prosecutor. so this is going to be an
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interesting dynamic to play out. i think no one saw this coming, in some ways it was the ideological divide we were looking for in -- kamala harris and did herself good in breaking out. >> and it was pretty geared toward the african-american vote. because kamala harris is understood -- i don't think there is ever a presidential candidate who has worked as hard to woo the african-american vote as kamala harris has over the course of the campaign. and she knows it is her path to the nomination and she knows, this isn't just -- joe biden is not sitting on top of the polls because of name i.d. there is a real reservoir of good will in the party with african-americans and more broadly and that is real. and so this will test, what we'll learn is does that reservoir of good will give joe biden some sense of teflon in this race or do we start to see that reservoir of good will not being there in quite the same level that it has been thus far.
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>> how important is it that he brings the skill. you mentioned her vulnerability as a prosecutor. he tried to turn that around on her about the defender versus prosecutor, the punch didn't land. >> it didn't land. >> we also saw when he was defending himself and he was -- he was on a roll and sort of -- he was i think being forceful in defending himself and then the buzzer goes off and he's out of time, i'm sorry. he threw in the towel when you saw a lot of other candidates pushing through that buzzer to finish their point forcefully. what did you make of that. >> and he did that with an expression that instantly became a meme. my time is up. well, when you are battling a generational question about your candidacy is not what you want to come out of your mouth. you're right, he did sort of -- yes, he forcefully defended himself even more so today in chicago as you just saw. it is hard to land the punch when you're already on the floor for being knocked out by kamala harris.
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>> biden surrogates have been struggling today to answer for what he said last night. some of them have been saying he didn't say what he said. we spoke to cedrick rich mand, congressman and co-chair of the presidential campaign. >> look at vice president biden's record and we know he's an outstanding advocae for civil rights. and that he will always stand up to bullies, if the question is about joe biden's heart and where he is, i think his word said he wants to unify this country. >> is that going to fly? we have to point out biden has, of all of the candidates, the strongest support among voters of color. >> right. >> will this be a negative moment for him? >> we'll see. we don't really know. some folks i talked to down in south carolina expect to see some movement with harris moving up among african-american voters, maybe 10%. but, listen, in this dog fight, 10% and if you're taking off
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voters from biden or warren, who also is catching on with black voters, we'll have to see. but the other thing that i picked up on in talking to folks in south carolina, some of whom were with biden privately recently, and they're worried. they were worried just about his demeaner and his ability to be coherent in getting across points. and you saw that on full display in the debate, we've seen that when we've seen biden on the stump, that he isn't the biden that people were -- >> he's rusty. >> he's a little rusty. and the question is, is it age or is he out of practice? >> and then there is the other question of how much do voter factor that in? because right now there is a very big divide. the political establishment, there is this big question mark hanging over the biden candidacy and the voters to date don't seem to have that question about
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the biden camp and that is a very big divide. last night joe biden did absolutely nothing to bring sort of the political establishment closer to where the voters are. he exacerbated the questions that many democrats have about the strength of his front-runner status. >> david and nia, thank you so much. president trump finally confronting vladimir putin about election interference but why are his comments causing a big fuss? maybe the way he delivered them? that's next. if you've got student debt, hi. welcome. our generation has 3 times the student debt our parents did. it's just not right. but you can get your student loans right by refinancing your student loans with sofi. you can get your interest rate right by locking in a fixed low rate today. and you can get your money right ... with sofi. save thousands. fast, easy and all online. what! she's zip lining with little jon? it's lil jon. even he knows that. thanks, captain obvious.
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>> president trump getting a bit of a chuck until there while sitting next to vladimir putin and seemingly making light of the threat of russian election interference. the u.s. intelligence community said that putin, a former top russian spy, directed the 2016 coordinated interference campaign and as cnn's kaitlan collins reports, that isn't the only controversial comment that the two leaders bonded over. >> reporter: with a grin on his face, trump finally brought up election meddling with russian president vladimir putin. but as he wagged his finger, the president only offered this light-hearted warning. >> don't meddle in the election. >> reporter: it was the first face-to-face for the two leaders since robert mueller laid out how russia interfered in the 2016 election and in a sweeping and systematic fashion but trump made clear he's ready to put the investigation behind them. >> i'm very, very good relationship and we look forward
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to spending some very good time together. >> reporter: the laughs didn't stop at interference. trump and putin joked about the reporters in the room. >> they have fake news -- you don't have them in russia. we have them. you don't have them. >> reporter: since putin has b been in pour -- power, 26 reporters have been murdered in russia, according to the committee, to protect journalists. during a meeting that lasted more than an hour, the white house said trump and putin talked about iran, syria, venezuela and ukraine. trump canceled his meeting with putin last fall after russia seized ukraineships and detained ukraine sailors and vowed not to meet again until the situation was resolved. but those sailors are still being held. putin isn't the only strong man on trump's schedule. the white house said he'll have
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breakfast with the saudi crown prince in a few hours. who the cia concluded personally ordered the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. >> i don't know if anyone can conclude that the proun prince did it. >> and then he sited down with president erdogan who they are threatening to tangs for the purchase of a russian missile system. >> during the meeting, a kremlin official said putin invited president trump to come to russia next year to celebrate victory day, something he has not rsvp-ed to yet. >> thank you for that report. and joining me now is former fbi and cia analyst phil mudd. and as you listen to the president's comments there about journalists but especially about election security with president putin looking on, what is the real -- what is the real effect of him making light of meddling. >> i think we misinterpret and
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i've been trying to understand what the president is doing -- our misinterpretation is saying maybe the president is embarrassed by this because when he looks at the margin of electoral victory, hey, maybe the russians did help me. change this dynamic. look at this through the eyes of putin who wants to control the media, say s, hey, it is perfecy appropriate for me and the president of the united states to push the media in the direction toward us so maybe the president is encouraging me to do this. that is a putin mindset i think is not out of the realm of possibility. he thinks it is a green light from the president. >> and then joking about getting rid of journalists with a leader who is believed to be -- we've seen a lot of russian journalists murdered and there is a belief that -- and there is evidence that the russian government has been connected to some of that. also think of all of the other countries where leaders have prisoned or killed reporters, what is the real effect of that. >> i look at this and say for
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the american people, the president keeps saying on guns, i represent you and i represent the constitution. the constitution said we all have a right to free speech. if the president got his intelligence briefs and i think some of this is a reflection of lack of understanding of what happens in russia, he would know that you not only don't have free speech in russia, you have murder. and i would point out on the issue of the constitution, the president keeps talking about term limits. that is also in the constitution. once you get elected out, you're done. he keep joking he will stay after term limits. you can't do that. >> listen to what leon panetta, former cia director and defense secretary under president obama told me this afternoon. >> i think that was a disgraceful moment for the president of the united states. the president doesn't realize that when he does that it sends a terrible message to the world that the united states is weak and that the president is weak in the presence of vladimir putin. >> the president is weak in the
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face of vladimir putin. what does it mean for america? >> i think there is a bigger issue. if you look at what president has done. there is rampant murder in the philippines but they are a problem. when you look at what the president said about the murder of jamal khashoggi and saying we don't know what will happen after the intelligence community said this is murder and now we see the president joking with the russians about -- with vladimir putin about journalists and they are murdered in russia. the impression is not just about journalism or the first amendment, it is about america who built a reputation on human rights saying i'm not sure they matter that much any more. i think people watch. >> phil mudd, thank you for your insight. folks in a high place are getting political, a few people that you would never expect weighing in on the 2020 election. we got the idea that if we took two dimensional patient imaging and put it in holographic displays, we could dissect around the tumor
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the 2020 lead as if two dozen cantons plus president trump weren't enough, today the supreme court justice signals they are in the mix injecting their opinions on highly-charged issues in a highly-charged race. we have cnn's ariane vogue our supreme court report joining us now and the justices say that a key immigration case is on the next docket and that abortion could be right behind it. tell us about this. >> next term this supreme court in the heat of the next election will hear big issues. today we learned as you said they'll take up daca. that is the obama-era program that gave protections for those migrants who came here as children. it was a bit of a surprise that
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the supreme court weighed in. john roberts and others have talked about keeping the court out of the political fray but next year they're going to take up this case. in many ways, brianna, the term that just ended was not this big conservative revolution that so many liberals worried about, but next term it is going to be something different. because the courts good -- going to hear daca and could hear abortion. today conservative justice clarence thomas wrote an opinion and he said he wants the court to take up abortion. he wrote that the courts abortion injure is prudence is out of control and so abortion is not on the doct so it could be. but here are other cases that are on there. the second amendment, lgbt rights and environment. this court is poised to take a hard right turn next term.
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>> and you're watching chief justice john roberts? >> right. john roberts has been to interesting. because he now with the retirement of justice kennedy, roberts is in control. he's got his feet on the pedals. this year he pushed the brake a couple of times but how fast and how far this court goes next term will be up to chief justice john roberts, brianna. >> thank you so much. what do you think? are voters paying attention? each party to this? >> i don't know so much about the court's opinion but without a doubt abortion and amnesty are major issues in 2020. and if the supreme court is weighing decisions, all the more so. this is why i think the democrats are pinning themselves into the corner with the debates. republicans are watching and saying, wow, the party is going to a place with no restriction on amnesty, no restrictions on abortion. and those positions will be rejected by a lot of voters. and i don't see any democrats
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even trying to give an eye toward republicans with those concerns. >> i think it depends on the nature of the case. certainly the expectation and also health care might make it so there are a whole suite of cases that some on our side believe could motivate democratic voters because we don't pay as close attention to the court s as we should. it is far mo-- far more of a m t motivator and because it gets to the supreme court but the lower courts and the way that president trump has been able to fill -- this is the dream of the conservative movement. >> i think it -- the democratic base we know is already fired up and they'll be fired up about president trump's re-election and the republican base, this is what brings them together. it brings the trump and the populous base and conservative base, when you talk about the supreme court, it is a huge motivation for them. so regardless of what their talking about, just the fact
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that the court is at issue in the election is going to help republicans in the election. >> what happens if the supreme court kills daca in an election year? >> i think it helps the democrats. a horrible thing if it happens to 700,000 people living in uncertainty and fear and you talk about energizing the face, right now the trump said it is the courts, holding up my policies but if they do come out with the decision, democrats are still upset about kavanaugh and the stolen seat and for gorsuch and this is a broken supreme court and you saw bernie sanders supreme about reform and rotating justices and pete buttigieg talked about adding justices. you'll have many more calls for reform. and on daca, you talk about extreme positions, daca is a common ground position among democrats and republicans, 80% of americans support daca citizenship. >> it is a failure that is decided upon by the supreme
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court. daca stands for deferred action for childhood arrivals. and deferred until when? it should be on congress to decide how to handle the charges, leaving it up to the court -- it was a huge gamble. >> but the house just passed legislation that won't get through to the senate. that is the problem. >> president obama did this and the conservatives said it was unconstitutional and the trump administration came in and won't argue the position they think is unconstitutional and they went to congress and said fix this because we can't defend something that is not constitutional and now the court will weigh in it as they should. >> you're exactly right. people support daca across the board. if you were brought here as a child and you talk to people about that, that is an important and voting issue and 7 in 10 people believe that roe v. wade should remain the law of the land and when you start talking about issues in terms of under this court, here are the things that could go away, that is where i think it becomes very motivating for democrats. >> roe v. wade, if that is on
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the table -- very quickly, we have half a minute. who is more motivated, democrats or republicans? >> both. it goes both ways. and where the democrats are going, abortion up until birth and maybe after birth, taxpayer funding for abortions in the debate. women don't want taxpayer funded abortions and that is how far left they're going in the first debate already on abortion. >> quick final word. >> i was going to say, again, this issue is nowhere near where it used to be. seven in ten americans in a recent cnn poll and even 80% of voters in iowa support roe v. wade. so this issue is a majority issue and it will motivate people. >> the white supremacist who drove into a crowd in charlottesville, virginia, just learned his face. ♪
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