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the question is, america what are you going to do about it? mr. president, what are you going to do about it? no more questions. no more search for answers. how about solutions? "new day" continues right now. we got shots fired. we got multiple people down. >> i did see a child got shot. i saw bodies outside. >> this was an attack on the hispanic and mexican community, period. >> this kind of hate is being legitimatized from on a high. >> you can just buy guns, kill people in broad daylight, broad nighttime. >> she had a personality that would light up a room. she'd give anything for those kids. even her life. >> we have a gun violence epidemic but also a hate epidemic. until we confront that, we're going to keep seeing this. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day."
alisyn is off. erica hill reporting live from el paso, texas. white supremacist terror. in just a few hours president trump will address the nation, a nation battling as you just heard an epidemic of hate and mass shootings. cnn has been told the white house has been scrambling all weekend to come up with new proposals but the president has struggled all weekend to come up with the words white supremacist terror. he has not spoken them. not from his golf resort in new jersey. will he say them this morning from the white house? and will he act on those words? now, the president did just write about gun violence. he says republicans and democrats must come together and get strong background checks perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed reform. this is sitting in the senate. senate majority leader mitch
mcconnell won't even allow a vote. democrats in the senate are calling to return. will the president's moves this morning make mitch mcconnell move? it's important to note that dozens of republican leaders have been invited to discuss gun violence with us. ted cruz, greg abbott, mike dewine, and kevin mccarthy. none of them agreed to appear. >> john, here in el paso, we are still waiting to learn the identities of all 20 victims who were shot and killed. authorities have not yet released those identities. we can tell you the gunman is in custody. taken into custody without incident. he's volunteering information. but he is also showing no remorse. among the 120 people killed, a young mother. he was there shopping for school supplies. she died shielding her 2-month-old son from gunfire and her family learned on sunday her
husband was also killed. in dayton, police have released video of the massacre there. at this hour, police do not know what inspired the gunman to open fire and kill nine people. joining us now is donna johnson, her nephew thomas nichols was killed in the shooting this past weekend and she joins us now. donna, first of all, our condolences to you on your loss. we would rather not be talking to you under these circumstances. but i know it's an opportunity for you to tell so many people about your nephew and what he meant to you. as i understand it, he was known as a gentle giant, donna. >> yes, he was. >> dad of four. four kids. ranging in age from 2 to 8. i know that's got to be tough for you, that you're grappling with that as well. he was all about love from what
i understand. never said good-bye to you without telling you that he loved you. >> correct. correct. he loved everybody. he'd walk in a room with a big, beautiful smile and just let you know, hey, and give you a big hug. it's just a tragedy for no reason. >> and you had seen him earlier on saturday, correct? >> yes. yes, ma'am. he got off of work and we both was sitting down watching television eating tw ining twiz watching television and just talking and just chilling like we always do. he had got off of work. and we talked about how was work and we got ready to go our separate ways or whatever. before he left, i love you, a t
auntie. i told him, i love you too. >> when you first haereard abou the shooting, were you concerned that he may be among the victims? >> well, when i first got the initial phone call from his sister, she told me to get down to the oregon district. she said i need you to get to the oregon district. i jumped up immediately and came down here. by the time i got here, there was police tape all over the place and they had everything blocked off. and i was calling his sister like what's going on, what's going on. she she was like, i think it's t.j. i said where are you at. she said i'm up here by peppers. i parked down on the opposite side of the oregon district. and i walked to get to her. and i'm like, what's going on. she was like, they said that t.j. was shot. i'm like, are we sure? and she said they said t.j. was
shot. and we stayed up here from -- hours. just to find out later on that day -- morning, rather, that he was definitely one of the victims that was brutally gunned down. >> that's a lot for you to take in especially being there in that moment. i'm guessing these last 24 hours probably feel like a blur to you and probably much longer than that. you know, i mentioned he is a dad of four. four young kids. what will you tell them about their father? how will you honor him? >> we will honor him to let them know and let everybody know that he is just -- he was the best guy in the world. this morning i woke up early this morning and i was looking on facebook and to see all of
the love comments that people had about him. teachers, coworkers, everybody was like, oh, i know him. i know him. that was the sweetest guy. he had the biggest smile. he gave the best hugs or whatever. i would let those kids know and they knew how much their father truly loved them. and the thing of it is is it's something that's going to be a big gap -- a missing gap in our family for awhile. it's going to take awhile for us to heal from all of this. >> we've heard from a number of lawmakers. president trump is going to speak to the nation later this morning. what do you want to hear from lawmakers? from the president? >> i would love for them to get ahold of this gun control, you know. the sad part about it is that
all of these mass shootings, the one in texas, the one here, a lot of people think oh this won't happen to me. this didn't happen to me. and it will happen to you. and i would love for them just to get ahold of it. i mean, you know, i understand it's a money making business, but at what cost? family members are hurting. from their loved ones because someone is angry. and then they're able to get hold of a gun and just mow people down. and it's just unfortunate and it's sad. and i wish they would do something about it. they can do stuff about any other thing and they can definitely do something about this gun. they can do something about this. >> donna johnson, i hope they were listening to you this morning. thank you for taking the time to be with us. thank you for telling us more about t.j. important to continue to honor the memory as you said so his four children know what a force of love he was. donna, thank you and our condolences again. >> thank you.
>> john, we'll send it back to you now. we'll see if lawmakers do listen to donna, to so many others calling for action this morning and frankly who have been for some time. >> her words, so simple, so poignant, so direct, and so true, erica. they can do something about this. so what is the question this morning? joining me now is andrew gillum, terry mccaauliffcauliffe, and d gregory. david, i want to start with you. we are expecting to hear from the president in a couple of hours. there are two things i want to address. it's the epidemic of hate in america and the rise of white supremacy in these attacks going on. and also gun violence. first to the issue of white supremacy, david. the president has yet to call the attack in el paso a white supremacist act of terror. and there are those wondering whether he will this morning and why he hasn't so far.
"the washington post" has another take on it. i want to read this to you as i ask you what you think he needs to say this morning. "the washington post" says we know by now not to waste time on the president to do the right thing. he sows division and bigotry rather than unity and understanding. what will the president do this morning? >> it's so hard to predict because of this record. because he has sowed that division. because he's been such a demagogue and a nativist. and a political opportunist. to speak out against hate, against white supremacy. about terrorism. about failing to call the kind of threat to the country that we're seeing what it is. we saw after 9/11 the country mobile iessed because the government was motivated and mobilized against the kind of hate that was directed against america on 9/11. we saw president clinton speak for the nation and capture the
anger and the hurt and the shock after the oklahoma city bombing. but this is a different kind of leader who doesn't want to go big. and the great danger in this moment is that you yet again fail to get beyond the kind of template of our culture, our broadcast cable and social media culture that divides so many people. and to go big. to call the threat what it is. to call the problem what it is. and to mobilize the government and the people of the country to do something big. again, i don't think this president has it in him because he spent so much time doing the opposite. and yet, as i was speaking to a veteran of a republican administration recently, what the president says matters. always. for good and for bad. and that's the test before him. >> i don't think that's in any more direct relief than it is this morning. no question about that, david. on the other hand, andrew
gillum, beto o'rourke had a moment last night that i think speaks to the frustration many have when it comes to this president. and speaks to the frustration many have when coming to the question what can he say to make it better? listen to what beto o'rourke said last night when asked is there anything in your mind the president can do to make things better? >> is there anything in your mind that the president can do to make this any better? >> what do you think? you know the [ bleep ] he's been saying. he's been calling mexican immigrants rapists and criminals. i don't know -- like, members of the press, what the [ bleep ]. hold on a second. you know, it's these questions that you know the answers to. i mean, connect the dots about what he's been doing in this country. he's not tolerating racism. he is promoting racism. he's not tolerating violence. he's inciting resame and violence in this country. i just -- i don't know what kind of question that is.
>> mayor gillum, what do you make of that? >> the president of the united states has forfeited any moral ground under which he could lead this country at this time in this really painful moment where people really are looking for leadership. moral clarity. absolutely he should call this what it is. white spre sumremist terrorism. when you dehumanize people, you say there is equivalency on both sides when you talk about racists and those who act against them. these are the kinds of seeds this president has sown using words like invasion. a military style word. when you get surprised when
somebody takes you seriously, picks up arms, military style arms, drive eight hours to go and mow down the people who you've told them are invading this country. then you think at 10:00 today we're supposed to listen to your words and believe that you have some emotional connection to the traumatic loss that people are feeling right now. this is a crazy. what i want to hear from this president is i want to hear a plan. yes, you ought to call this what it is. but you also ought to call congress back to washington, d.c. ask them not only to pass the most anemic form to have background checks universal, but also ban weapons of war. you should also call for the congress to ban these kinds of weapons and put limits on the kind of size of artillery that could be put into these guns. i don't want to hear anybody say anything about good people being able to have a gun and respond to these incidents. it took 30 seconds for nine
people to be killed and over 20 other folks to be injured last night. 30 seconds before law enforcement could respond. that was the quickest response that any of us could have asked for. yet there's carnage all over the place. and the president has to take responsibility for that. and demonstrate some real leadership for a change. >> so governor, mcauliffe, the president moments ago floated what appears to be some kind of deal on background checks here. he said republicans and democrats must come together to get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. now, i do want to note before i ask you to weigh in here, there is background check legislation that has passed the house with some republican votes that is sitting and waiting in the u.s. senate for action right now. but mitch mcconnell has chosen not to act to expand background checks to gun shows and extend the waiting period from three to ten days. that legislation exists. all it takes is a vote.
>> and you asked what the president should do today. i remind you we are exactly one week away from the second anniversary of charlottesville. where that day the president of the united states should have stood up in front of the cameras and condemned white supremacy and the neo-nazis. so here we are two years later. we're in a very similar situation. to the president has to do two things in my mind today. he ought to get up in front of the cameras and he ought to apologize. he ought to say my rhetoric has gone too far. and i'm asking all americans to come together. i'm speaking to the young people today, stand down, stop the hatred. and i think he ought to say, listen, i'm responsible for some of this and i was wrong. that would go a long way. and as david talked about what presidents do in an important time in our nation's history, this is a big moment for donald trump. he has to change. can he do it? i really don't know.
the second thing he needs to do is look at the camera today and we're talking about all this gun legislation. he ought to say i want the senate and house to come back immedia immediately. i'm looking to mitch mcconnell the senate leader and say to him, i want you to call a vote. we've got to have universal background checks. we've got to shut the gun show loophole. we've got to get rid of these high capacity magazines. that's what the president should do. and if he puts the republicans in the senate right there saying you have to do this because they do and they never speak up. they never speak up. this is a time for him to show real leadership. i'm sorry for the grief that i've caused. i mean, think of pit. this is the first time a president geez before the nation and there's a question of whether he is culpable for the issues they're about to address. usually the president gets up to be the moral leader. this time the president has responsibility because of his words. this is a big moment for
president trump. he ought to stand up and do the right thing and turn the country around. >> i'm out of too im. so in ten seconds or less, is there any chance "a," he stands up and says i'm sorry? or "b," might this be after everything we've seen in the years the moment where some kind of deal could be struck? >> i don't think me president has it in him to what terrterry talking about. but he has the ability to direct a national conversation, to talk about the issue of guns. to talk about hate, white supremacy. to really get a focus on what government can do and have that extend into our kind of how tribal we've become, how easy we will demonize each other. he's got that potential. he's got the audience. >> we're done with talking. let's do something. >> time for solutions. no more of a search for question or answers. it's the time for solutions. i really do appreciate your time this morning. up next, what message does one of the president's most
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in just hours, president trump will address the nation from the white house delivering his response to the two mass shootings over the weekend. a lot of people are taking issue with the explosive rhetoric he has used. rhetoric that mirrors the screed written by the el paso murderer. this is language the president has used since his campaign began. listen. >> they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. you had very bad people in that group. but you also had people that were very fine people. on both sides. these are rough, rough people in many cases. and if they're allowed to break through our borders only larger and bigger, we have emboldened these people. it's not going to happen. yes, sir, we have barbed wire going up.
you know what? we're not letting these people invade our country. >> invade. invasion. the very language that was in the screed written by this killer in el paso. joining us now is anthony scaramucci, author of "trump: the blue collar president." thank you for being with us this morning. i can tell you've been doing thinking over the weekend about all of this. these are issues facing the country right now. i know you've been struggling with them as well. issues of hate and issues of gun violence. if we can, i would like to separate the two in our discussion this morning a little bit. first to the president's speech this morning. we just heard former governor terry mccaauliffe say the president should apologize to the nation for some of the language he has used and the language that appeared in that killer's screed in el paso. is there any chance of that in your mind? >> well, you know, i don't think the president's going to apologize. he spent 40 or 50 years with a strategy of never apologizing.
he's probably apologized a few times in his life, but this will likely not be one of those times. but i think what's instructive here and hopefully people around him are telling him this. when you're sending out tweets that can be perceived as racist, again not saying he's racist but can be perceived. our you're saying things that can be presooefed as white nationalist. you get a group of people that are fired up. go back through history. teddy roosevelt said you could use it to control the news cycle and use it as a gigantic worldwide megaphone to express your ideas and your values. and so what's happening now is unfortunately we have lunatics and there's mental illness in our society. it's very, very painful to watch that. and so when a president uses rhetoric that frankly he doesn't even need to use. he's got so many good things going on in the economy, there
would be no need to use this sort of rhetoric. we should see what happens in the speech -- he's basically an emperor without clothing right now. and what terry mccaauliffe said right now is true. he could get something done on gun control laws. >> you have a different position than the president has on guns and the republican party has and you've held that position for a long time. we'll come to that. but on the language, it was interesting. you were describing the threat that language can pose. there's a phrase for that that has developed over the last few years. stochastic terror that no one ordered this person to go commit the terror attack, but over time statistically speaking, attacks will happen if people in power, if people who have a megaphone use this language because these evil people will use it as an excuse. do you see that happening here?
>> well, there's definitely linkage. i think it would be unfair to blame the president. you can't say it's the president's fault that there's a mentally ill person that used his language to go out and kill people. >> it's only his fault that he has chosen the words, correct? >> yes. but he should not be using those words. he is the leader of the free world. the country stands for these ideas, the first name of the country is united. it's not disunited. it also stands as a beacon of hope for civilization around the world. lincoln called it the last best hope forman kind. so he is the successor of abraham lincoln. he has to handle himself and comport his language in a way that would let people see him in that way. if you're saying stuff like this or tweeting stuff about elijah
cummings it's not sense kal. if you say i need to do that because people are against me in the media, it's nonsensical. you won the presidency. you've got a great hand and you've got create policies going on around the country. >> as a supporter of the president, when you see the language that he uses in this document written by the killer, how does it make you feel, anthony? >> well, again, you know -- forget about the killer for a second. just look at the language itself. you can't attach the killer to the president. that is totally in my opinion not fair. but if you look at the language itself and if you're sitting around with him putting a speech together or thinking about a campaign idea or a campaign policy, you got to say, hey, you're the president now. you're not running for office. i mean, you're the president of everybody. this sort of stuff is going to turn off a lot of people and it's going to strike fear in
people. >> it's going to -- it's going to and -- >> john, let me finish. you're making the point -- >> why does he do it? >> you're making the point that it incited the guy. >> i'm not making that point. i said it's the same language. how it makes you feel. why does the president use this language? because it's a choice. it's a choice and it's a choice over a long period of time. >> i think he -- i think he -- you know, look. he would have to answer that question. i can only surmise that he thinks that there's value to creating this sort of combativeness and this sort of combustibility. he thinks he's value to his base, that it's perhaps stoking them up. i think one of the fears that they would have if you look at the polling numbers that they have to get the base out with the highest level of participation possible. so he may be thinking that this sort of stuff is helping his base. i would argue -- andening the
way he's going about it with this sort of rhetoric and this sort of nastiness doesn't make sense. if he makes a speech today and says, look. the republicans we all know they're basically a bunch of scaredy cats. and since i totally control them, here's what we're going to do. we're going to pass background check legislation. we're going to increase the opportunity for red flag laws and things like that. they'll sign that. he'll get democrats to come over and get that thing done. and now that's more of a moderate independent view and that's the coalition that he needs to win re-election. so i don't know. look. he's the president. i'm not the president. he has way better political instincts than me. let me tell you something. i have studied the history documents of the country and lived the american dream. talking like this is not the best way to handle yourself as the american president. it is what it is.
i hope he would stop doing it. people that really like him and want to support him, give us reasons to support you more and be faithful, passionate advocates. don't do nonsensical things where we're scratching our heads saying, how are we going to support that when you're acting in a way that doesn't make sense and is potentially inciting violence? >> do you support the president as we set here this morning. >> go ahead. >> as we sit here this morning, do you support president trump? >> of course. i'm a loyal guy. i got fired two years ago for the charlottesville thing. i spoke out -- >> the question is -- if the seasons a yes, you still support the president this morning. what would it take for you to stop supporting the president? >> well, i think he's going in a direction and i said this a couple weeks ago on your air. he's going in a direction where there's a large group of people who want to support him.
they're actually begging him to give us reasons to support you. he's going in a direction where i guess he doesn't want that support or he wants people to have this twisted like a brpretl loyalty test with him. where he's doing things that aren't makes sense. but i want you to go out there and defend it. i think there's a large group of people that are going to stop doing that. and then eventually people are going to say, look. i'm sorry the value system and the rhetoric does not outweigh the policies. okay? and so at some point that will happen. has not happened for me yet. it's not just me. i'm a little bit more vocal. a tinge more courageous to admit it. but it's former white house officials, former cabinet members, former people in the american military. it's not just me. it's not like i'm the only one. i may be the only one saying it, but trust me. there's a large group of people. if he keeps it up, they'll say
the policies, they're great but you know what? this sort of rhetoric and this sort of disunity sort of stuff is overpowering the policy. >> he's at risk -- >> why don't you get them together and work it out? that's something i don't understand. >> he's at risk of losing, you think, of losing former cabinet officials? >> oh, absolutely. there's not even a question about that. what he's at risk of doing is a very large group of people moderates, independents, republicans that want to support him. not the republicans that are, like, making these pretzels. there's a lot of guys that leave congress, they'll go to the shopping mall and buy a pretzel franchise. these guys are jokes. you got to tell the guy the truth. you got to tell them where they're at. at the end of the day, it's disunifying and you are the leader of the free world and running the united states of america. it's united for a reason.
so yes, to me i support him. i hope he gives a speech today. the nra is a emperor without clothing. obviously these guys fall in line with the president. anything he says or does, they support on twitter or elsewhere. just tell these guys we're going for universal background checks and end the political nonsense. 75% of the american people are in support of that. that's your coalition. >> yep. and the house has passed two laws to expand background checks. the senate could do it today. anthony scaramucci, thank you for being with us this morning. i think it's notable that anthony says as we go back to el paso that there are former cabinet members who are close or at risk of splitting from the president and not supporting him anymore. that's interesting. >> indeed it is. and we'll see what comes of that. as you mentioned, john, we are here in el paso. this city which will be waking up at any moment now is in
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two cities on opposite sides of the country united in grief this morning. we are live in el paso, texas, where we're learning more about the 20 lives lost at the walmart just behind me. seven of them from mexico. among those killed, jordan and andre anchondo. they're the parents of three young children. they were there shopping for school supplies when the gunman opened fire. jordan who you see here died at the hospital after using her body to protect their 2-month-old son. her husband was also confirmed dead. their little boy survives. leo campos and his wife went shopping at walmart. the family was desperately trying to reach her. their worst fears now confirmed.
arturo benavides is now confirmed among the dead. and mexico secretary of foreign affairs identifying the mexican citizens who died. sara esther regalado. adolfo hernandez. jorge garcia. elsa de la mora. gloria marquez. and ivan manzano. some 15 hours later, nine people were killed in a late night shooting in dayton, ohio. they have been identified as 27-year-old nursing student lois oglesby. she was a mother of two including a newborn. saeed salah. derrick fudge. logan turner. thomas mcnichols. beatrice warren-curtis and
monica brickhouse. nicholas cumer and megan betts. those were the lives that were lost. so many more will never be the same. >> thank you so much for telling us about them and to everyone out there, please think of those victims today. think of their families. think of the wounded. think of their families. think of all those who have been affected by mass shootings over the last few years. don't think about the monsters who did this. we need to find solutions. and on that point, in just a few hours president trump will address the nation. earlier this morning he suggested linking background checks with immigration reform. meanwhile, a growing list of democrats and one republican are calling on mitch mcconnell to reconvene the senate to take action. our next guest is one of those lawmakers. joining us now is democratic senator and presidential candidate kirsten gillibrand. thank you for being with us this morning. if i can get your reaction first
to the news of just a few minutes ago where the president said we need to expand background checks. do you agree? >> of course we do. and this president needs to take a lot more responsibility than that. he's been emboldening white supremacists his entire presidency and his campaign. he's been using language to demonize immigrants, to demonize the vulnerable his entire presidency. he was at a rally in florida where he's talking about immigrants. and he said what should we do, what should we do. someone shouts out shoot them and he laughed. that is a what a lack of leadership in the white house looks like. he is not only egging on white supremacy and nationalism, but he has been using racist language as a candidate and president for two years. especially against immigrants. he called mexican rapists. he demonizes them every time he talks about immigrants. >> i want to talk about the epidemic of hate in this country
because i think it's so important. on the issue of guns, the president suggested linking background check measures to immigration measures. is that something as a democratic vote in the senate you would consider? >> it's absurd. again, this is part of the problem. he's linking the issue of basic common sense gun reform that we should be going back into the senate today to vote on with this issue of immigration. because again, he continues to try to demonize people seeking asylum, people needing our help. >> and there are two measures that did pass the house. one that will extend the waiting period from three to ten days. the other that would close the gun show loophole. not make it universal background checks, but expand them greatly would you vote on those measures to pass? >> for sure. >> and it may not be enough. you want more, right? >> yes. we should ban large magazines. we should have an antigun trafficking law. those are the three most common
sense ideas that we -- that are supported on a bipartisan basis. we could get that done. and mitch mcconnell should call the senate back in today and we should pass these measures. >> they're just sitting there waiting. there are others that may be more controversial. these are not the controversial ones waiting for a vote. now on the issue of hate. the language that has been used in this country, it's something i don't remember before. what should the president say this morning and does it matter? >> yes, it matters. he's the president. he has a bully pulpit. his responsibility is to set the tone for america. what he's done is spew hate and division his entire presidency. the incidents of hate crimes have risen all over the country.
incidents of racism, homophobia, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant has risen. and he's responsible for creating this situation where this has flourished. the social media groups. the head of 8chan shut it down today because he recognized this group was inspiring and inciting white supremacy and violence based on race. he is at least taking responsibility. our president hasn't taken responsibility on any level and he must. he must actually do what it takes. i read a piece this morning about imagine this was from anti-islamic -- imagine that kind of hate crime. and what this country would do to respond to it. it would be everything. and the president would shut down the social media groups. the president would use every weight and power of the federal government to make a difference. that's true.
and in this instance, he's done nothing. all he's done is pour fuel on a flame that has been burning since he got lekked. . >> one of the things people pointed to is the president was critical of president obama for not using the term radical islamic terrorism. to describe some attacks by muslims. why is it he hasn't in the last few days used the term white supremacist terrorism to describe this? >> because he doesn't lead and he is part of the problem. he is the one that is inciting this violence and hate. if i was president, i would use my department of justice to actually investigate white supremacy. to make sure that we knew what these groups were doing. i would make sure we'd infiltrate these groups to make sure we could stop these kinds of terrorist attacks. this is what democratic terrorism looks like. and we should be using our resources. the department of justice. our investigative arms with the fbi to actually root out this kind of terrorism at home. >> one of the things that
supporters of the president say, even if he goes out there and calls it white supremacist terror, why bother? >> leadership is leadership and we are in desperate need of it. this president is unwilling to change the climate of this country. as i've said, he used his speeches to demonize immigrants. he calls it an invasion. he's been doing that since his can the candidacy through his presidency. it's no wonder these white spremisprem i groups. it's his responsibility to change the national narrative and to decry this kind of racism. >> senator kirsten gillibrand, thanks for be us this morning. i appreciate it. some mourners came together in dayton, ohio, overnight. nine people killed.
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ohio, coming together last night to honor the victims of sunday morning's mass shooting that left nine dead and more than two dozen wounded. ohio governor was interrupted by chants of "do something" as he addressed the crowd. dayton mayor also into at that event. she joins us now. mayor, we appreciate you taking some time for us this morning. how is your community doing this morning? >> i think the community is in shock and sadness, frankly. we were completely amazed by the out pouring of people coming to the site last night to really
begin the work of healing for our community. it's going to take some time. >> it's going to take some time. i know you said before, there will be hugging, praying, a range of emotion. there will be calls for change and action. we heard some of that last night at the vigil. of course the governor interrupted by chance of "do something." two-part question. what are you hearing from people in your community? they are looking to you as their leader. what do they want to see done? >> i think in dayton, number one, there's a real need to be there for each other and showing up for each other. i think that is what's really important for the community of dayton. secondly, there is exhaustion of lack of action. this shooting in dayton, our heroic police department stopped it in 24 seconds. i think a lot of people were
asking what if they weren't there, how we would have had so many more losses of life on fifth street. i think that's what people are thinking. for us in dayton, we have the work to do to help the families of the victims really process this as a community. >> a number of lawmakers have spoken out. what do you want to hear from them. >> my job as mayor is to take care of my community, to bring any community together and make sure it has what it needs. what i want from columbus and washington, d.c., i want them to do their job as well. i don't think, and i've talked
to our police officers here, this shooter had a gun that he got legally with magazines he got legally. i really don't understand why a gun of that magnitude is really needed on the streets of fifth street. you know, a gun that can kill nine people and injury 26 more in the course of 24 seconds while our officers have handguns and shotgun rifles to go back at it, i just don't think -- i think it begs the question what are we doing. >> it's a question a lot of folks are asking this morning. you're talking a lot, understandably, about your community, about what your community needs. have you been able to meet with any of the victims or families of those who were lost? >> look, we've given the victims and their families space in this really tough time. when issues like this happen, not of this magnitude but we trette it the same, there is an advocate for each victim's
family and we respect that space. we are here for the families. we've put up a fund for them to make sure they can get what they need. we've had a great outpouring of support from that. dayton is known as a welcoming city. we were the first city designated welcoming to immigrants of all kind of people. the diversity is rich and the strength in the community is strong at that time, too. i think that diversity is what makes us so strong. we will continue to do that work and continue to support the victims and their families. >> stellar message we're hearing in el paso. i know you've heard from a number of mayors reaching out and supporting. we will check for a community update. mayor, thank you for takinger time this morning. >> thank you. thank you so much. this country reeling again from back-to-back shootings. >> we are blessed.
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all right. good morning and welcome to your new day. it's monday august 5th. 8:00 in the east. alisyn is off. erica hill joins me live from el paso, texas, the site where 20 people were gunned down because the sheriff said an anglo man wanted to drive ten hours to kill hispanics. the nation is at a loss. they can't begin to manage the horror that comes from a hateful round of mass shootings. other words we haven't yet heard, white supremacist terror. we have not heard those words from the president of the united states. just a few short hours from now, two hours from now, to be exact, president trump will address the nation in what might be a preview of what he will say, the president wrote this just moments ago. he said republicans and democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. he did not say anything in the tweets this morning about white