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forget what happened there . thank you. a possible red flag in el paso missed. "new day" continues right now. >> i turn on the television, the same old line. >> he was comforting and did the right things. >> when he feels his good intentions are being misrepresented, then he's going to try to counter that narrative. >> talk can be divisive and that's the last thing we need in dayton. >> this is a president who is im capable of setting aside the partisanship. >> i hope that some of the work of the white house will work on that legislation. >> we're waiting for mitch mcconnell to get his marching orders from trump. come on, mitch mcconnell, where are your guts? welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is a special edition of "new day." alisyn is off. i'm john berman in el paso. erica hill joins me this morning from washington. so, a day that was supposed to be about grieving instead became a lot about grievance. the president, people here in el
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paso and in dayton this morning are trying to figure out where the president's head was all day while meeting with people affected by this tragedy. now, he is back in washington this morning. we're going to have much more on the strange moments over the last 24 hours, but we also have important new information about the white house pushing back on an effort to put a greater emphasis on domestic terror and white supremacy. also new reporting this morning on the efforts to battle gun violence, erica. >> part of that, support for stronger background checks is growing. president trump expressing his support. the question though this morning is whether that lasts. we spoke with nra president wayne lapierre on tuesday on with that call came a warning. lapierre told the president the idea will alienate his base. so far, of course, there has been no action on gun control, john, here in washington. >> so true. we're going to begin though with exclusive new cnn reporting on a
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possible missed signal here in el paso. weeks before the massacre that took place behind me, the suspected gunman's mother called police. she called police concerned that her son owned an assault style rifle and didn't know how to use it. now, she did not leave her name or her son's. her concerns were dismissed by police who said based on the information, her son had a legal right to have that gun. but again, let that sink in. the mother of the suspected shooter called police with concerns. cnn's brian todd joins me here in el paso to give us much more on this. just that one phrase i think will be alarming and disappointing, shocking to the people here in el paso. >> that's right. clearly you're raising questions about a red flag possibly missed here but then it raises questions about how much she interacted with police and what specific information did she give them because, according to our investigative team who spoke to lawyers for the family, she called the allen, texas police department in the weeks before
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the shooting, expressed concern about her son owning an ak type firearm, concern really because of his age, maturity level and lack of experience dealing with that kind of a weapon but apparently, according to these lawyers, she did not express concern that he posed a threat to anyone and the lawyers are telling our investigative team that this was not a volatile or explosive or erratic behaving kid and there were no alarm bells raised. okay, then, why are you calling police to express concern? is there a disconnect here? clearly there's something there and we're trying to get some more information, again, from the allen, texas police. they're not really giving us a lot of information or documentation about the call. they did not really ask for much more information from the mother other than to say that given her explanation of the situation, he was legally entitled to have that weapon. >> so we have a key data point here which is the mother called police with concerns about her son owning this weapon.
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this is so pertinent now because there are discussions about these so-called red flag laws that exist in some states, not texas, which would allow police, usually a judge, to step in and take a gun away if someone close to a person in question calls with concerns about a threat to his or herself or others. so the question now is would a red flag law have caught this and based on what you're telling me, we simply don't know because she didn't say he was a threat to himself or others, correct? >> that's right. there are so many nuances here that have to be brought out when a mother or somebody makes a call about a relative and concerns. you have to be specific. really maybe it's up to the police to ask very specific questions. why are you even calling us? when did he buy the weapon? what has he done with it. again, from what we're told so far, police did not ask those questions. >> maybe if a red flag law existed it would have made a
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difference because police would have pushed for more information, specifically, why are you calling. brian todd, this reporting raises so many questions. thanks to you and our investigative team for bringing it to you. president trump lashing out at dayton's mayor and ohio senator sherrod brown, both democrats, accusing them of misrepresenting his hospital visit with victims and first responders from the mass shooting. they were with him in dayton. erica, let me go to you for the rest here. >> they did actually praise the president afterwards. in fact, here's what they said. >> he was comforing and he did the right things and melania did the right things. it's his job in part to comfort people. i'm glad he did it in those hospital rooms. >> i think the victims and the first responders were grateful that the president of the united states came to dayton. >> the president and the white house, white house aides i should say, ripping both the senator and the mayor after those comments. we're live in washington with a
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little bit more of the back and forth of two different realities this morning. >> yes, this seemed to be a strange and coordinated attack by not only the president but his team. shortly after the three of them, the president, the mayor and the senator, left the hospital in dayton, the president's social media chief accused them of, quote, lying about what happened at the hospital. then press secretary stephanie grisham joined in saying what they said was, quote, disgusting. then we had a tweet from the president himself saying that the visit had been totally misrepresented by the mayor and the senator and what happened bore no resemblance to what happened at the hospital. we don't have independent accounts, but as you showed, they were overwhelmingly positive about the hospital visit. they said he was comforting. they said he was well received. so when mayor whaley was presented with this tweet, she expressed some bewilderment.
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watch the clip here. >> i don't -- i'm confused. we said he was treated very well. i don't know what he's talking about misrepresenting. oh well, you know, he lives in his world of twitter. >> so there was a little bit of criticism from both of them. senator brown said that some people had privately told him at the hospital they weren't great admirers of president trump but even they expressed respect for the office when he was there. >> always appreciate it, thank you. ahead in our next hour, we will actually get new reaction. dayton mayor nan whaley will join us. john. joining us now, cnn political director, bianna golodryga and john avalon.
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the people in el paso this morning are trying to figure out what the heck happened here over the last 24 hours. yes, nan whaley and sherrod brown and people on the ground give the president credit for meeting with first responders and the families of victims, but before and during and after, all this grievance from the president and the very real question, what on earth does the president complain about sherrod brown and nan whaley and julian castro and commuting the sentence of rod blagojevich, how does this help the people of el paso heal and get through this process? this was a strange day even in the standards that we've come to expect from the president. >> yeah, no doubt, john, not terribly surprising that he would still use the politics of grievance even if there was nothing to be aggrieved about at
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certain points. what was interesting to me was when i heard the president in el paso talk about the great respect for the office of the presidency that was shown. he was able to separate himself out of the office which on a day like this it's all about the office of the presidency. and yet he separated himself in ways that rebound against him because he thinks, oh, you can show respect to the office of the presidency, victims, family members, what have you, but i, donald trump, the president, can still go off and tweet grievance politics and be petty and inject small politics into a day that is obviously supposed to be one of mourning, of consolation. >> he is the occupancy, the occupant, i should say, of that job right now in the white house. so that is what people are talking about. bianna, it strikes me that the
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victims inside the university medical center here in el paso, there's reporting this morning that the victims themselves would not meet with the president. now, they met with other politicians over the last few days, so it's notable, bianna, that they chose not to meet with the president. >> it's such a trivial issue when you think about it from a larger scale, john. i watched that press conference yesterday with the senator and with the mayor. they did speak kindly about some of the reception that the president and the first lady received and you played that clip. obviously the majority of americans didn't watch that so now that they're waking up to this as the nation is still healing and trying to piece together what happened after these tragedies to once again find the president in this petty war of words, it's just ridiculous. once again, it sets the tone for what the president is supposed to be doing at a time like this. in the past we've always relied on the president to bring the nation together regardless of party, and then focus on how to prevent such attacks again.
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we have been behind, i would argue, the rest of the world when it comes to what steps can be taken to prevent future attacks, but we've always come together. we've become very good at a nation in healing and in a president saying the right words at the right time. we don't have that right now. what we didn't hear from the president is defending the hispanic community. this hispanic community in this country in el paso was attacked. they are afraid. you have done pieces on this earlier in the show about the heightened sense of insecurity they're feeling. we didn't hear or see any of that from the president yesterday and that's what's lacking right now. you realize why it's so important to have the president, regardless of who's attacking, he's above it all, he's above the fray. the president of the united states and the united states, what stands out from the rest of the world is that we are a nation of immigrants. we come together at times of tragedy and i don't see the nation coming together under what this president has thus far
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done by his actions. >> it was a glaring absence not to focus on the latino community while he was in el paso. that's a very good point. john, i think people will push back and say the president can walk and chew gum at the same time but there are certain days and yesterday may have been one of them where you just want to walk. >> yeah. this is not a day where you want to indulge your pettiest instincts, especially if you're the president, because it is about being the comforter in chief but the president's got an empathy deficit. he's got a creditability chasm when it comes to confronting white nationalist terrorism and reaching out to the hispanic community in our country. so that was clear for everyone to see. that's at the heart of some of the tone deafness we saw yesterday. i want to bring something else into this too which is our friend and colleague jake tapper's reporting. the dhs is saying that the white house has had idealogical blinders on when it comes to
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confronting domestic terror and wh white nationalist terror. they want to focus solely on jihadist terror. idealogical blinders are stopping them from dealing with reality and that's a dereliction of duty. >> jake reported yesterday that the white house rebuffed efforts from homeland security over the last year to put a greater emphasis on domestic terror and thereby white supremacy. the feeling was these were just issues you didn't want to bring up with the president because you know he didn't like to talk about it. what does that tell you, john? >> what does it sound like? he prefers to be in denial about a real problem, perhaps because it makes him uncomfortable, because because he's afraid of offending certain people. what does it also sound like? the reporting we heard about the dhs being told not to confront
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the president about election reporting in russia. the chief of staff allegedly told the homeland security director not to bring that information to the president. that is a glaring sign that there is something fundamentally wrong with the president's ability to assess threats and to address them proactively from the white house. he's putting everything through a personal and idealogical prism where you're blind to a problem that your top aides are telling you we need to deal with to keep americans safe. >> david, what did your political antenna tell you this morning about the direction of the gun safety discussion in this country and in congress specifically? i take the reporting from brian todd here that the mother of the shooter here called police worried about her son owning an ak weapon. it's the type of thing that maybe one of these red flag laws
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could stop. add that to the reporting that the president himself keeps talking about background checks. i'm not sold that he really feels this way because he said it before and i don't know how much he understands about the discussion on background checks, david, but where is it going? >> we know he's also talked to senator pat toomey on that background checks legislation, john. it is impossible to approach this in any way but with a really heavy dose of skepticism. as you noted, he has voiced support for background checks before only to walk away from it and in the intervening hours it wasn't like mitch mcconnell was sort of taking that lead and driving the senate floor to get that through. i don't have high hopes that there's going to be dramatic change to the gun laws. by the time congress gets back, you know how these things go, it dissipates from the headlines. they don't feel the pressure as much. and yet, there's clearly a call
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in the country for action. so you pointed to the red flag laws. maybe that is the beginning of a process, but i don't know if you look at the totality of the gun violence epidemic that exists that that is going to be solution enough, especially for the advocates of gun safety legislation. i would just say, cautious about thinking that this is somehow going to move washington in the direction that it's been refusing to go for well over a decade now. >> we still haven't laid out the parameters on how red flag warnings would work. it's still so vague. you all know people, we all know people that may be a bit disturbed or may be loaners or what have you so are authorities going to question every single person? we know there are more guns than people. so every person that they may be a bit suspicious -- it creates this question of how it's going to be implemented. >> different states already have
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laws in place and they handle those questions in different ways. one of the discussions now is providing federal grants to states to do it in their own way but you're right, there's certainly questions about how it will be implemented nationwide. thank you all very much. erica? joe biden's toughest attack yet in the wake of the el paso shooting and the shooting in dayton of course coming yesterday, accusing the president of embracing white supremacy and he's not the only democratic candidate on the attack.
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former vice president joe biden in a fiery speech connecting president trump's racist rhetoric with the mass shooting in el paso. >> it's both clear language and in code, this president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation. his low energy, vacant-eyed mouthing of the words written for him, condemning white supremacists this week i don't believe fooled anyone at home or
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abroad. >> joining me now, paul beganda, former democratic mayor of new orleans and a cnn political commenter. good to have you with us this morning. joe biden really coming out strongly yesterday, clearly getting the president's attention as well as he was tweeting about it in between stops in dayton and el paso. when you look at the joe biden, paul, that we saw yesterday, as we talked about earlier, for some democrats this is the joe biden they've been waiting to see on the campaign trail. >> absolutely, erica. i don't have a candidate in the race and i don't have a favorite but i've known him for decades and i've never seen him better. i thought his debate performances were pretty uneven but being president is about rising to an occasion and i think democrats and most independents have given up on this president rising to an occasion. but there's been questions about joe, can he rise to the occasion. i thought the speech yesterday
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in content, in tone, in substance, and the political courage to say the things that he said about the president, that he fans the flames of white supremacy, i think this is biden at its best and what democrats have been looking for. >> what's going to be really important for these candidates in 2020, especially as they are battling for that nomination, is to really listen to the voters, and voters i would say expect more because they can interact with candidates in a different way than they could even in 2016. do you think he's listening to the voters with the words that we heard yesterday? >> i think he is. the nation needed to be called into a moment yesterday. whether you have a democratic or republican president, when a national tragedy occurs, they need to focus on not only the short term solutions but the long term solutions. the vice president looked a lot more presidential and was more
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on tone and task for what it is that's ailing the country. white nationalism and white supremacy is a serious problem. it is a terror threat. >> when you look at the reaction of the president yesterday, joe biden was asked about it, asked what he thought of the tweet and he said the president needs to get a life. paul, is that the best -- go ahead. >> it's crushingly painful. after katrina, the shootings we've had across the country, the police officers that were killed, the president is sp supposed to show up and bring focus to the thing and not to themselves. it's painful this morning that we're talking about the president rather than the victims, how to reduce violence on the streets of america. it's tragic and it's not right. >> these are conversations that should be had. joe biden not the only one
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calling out the president yesterday and making a forceful speech. cory booker of course was out there. we also have heard from beto o'rourke who of course is from el paso over the last number of days. when you're looking at all these different reactions and specifically cory booker yesterday, paul, do you think this is a new trend for these democratic kp iic candidates in they're being more forceful and pointed and will that continue? >> i think michelle obama said a very wise thing. she said the presidency doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are. earlier than i would have thought, the process is stripping the art afis away from the candidates. i think cory booker spoke from the heart at mother bethal church, sacred ground in charleston where bible study parishioners were murdered by a white nationalist terrorist. steve bullock said that the
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president abets enemies abroad or encouraging them at home. this is i think what democrats are looking for and more importantly, think about it as a political analyst which is what i am, the presidency may likely be determined in the suburbs by a lot of white folks who do not hold those racially hostile views, who want their president to bring us together the way that president obama did after those murders in charleston or the way that president bush did after 9/11, the way president clinton did after right wing terrorism in oklahoma city. if i'm working for trump, i'm terribly worried that i'm going to lose the suburbs and therefore lose the presidency. >> besides that, what the american people want is to be safe. they want their kids to be safe. it's not okay for them to send their daughter to walmart to get supplies for school and to be killed or to have children
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killed on porches at birthday parties. they want us to focus on what is the answer to dealing with the culture of violence in the united states of america, whether it's white nationalism, street crime or mass murders that we have. right now we're talking about a lot of other stuff because you know this is going to happen again. i just think the country's going to get frustrated that we have yet to find an answer in this great country to this problem which in fact is solvable. >> you certainly have a lot of experience in that department so we're going to be calling on you more. nice to have you in the family as well i should point out. thank you both. the billionaire owner of equinox and soul cycle facing backlash over a planned hamptons fundraiser tomorrow for president trump's re-election campaign. steven roth also owns the nfl's miami dolphins. news of the fundraiser prompting celebrities, among them chrissy teigen, to cancel their membership. once this picked up steam, it
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just took off. >> yeah, the reaction, to your point, was fast and furious. many consumers of equinox and soul cycle really feel like this fundraiser is a slap in the face because these two brands in particular, these high end gyms, really cater to a diverse, inclusive audience, and they make those messages part of their marketing. for example, in june, soul cycle hosted a series of pride rides to support and celebrate the lgbtq community. this is seen is as a slap in the face an now the company is taking a tremendous amount of heat. celebrities are weighing in including billy eichner. he tweeted, what's your policy for cancelling members once your a member finds out your owner is enabling racism and mass murder. we don't know what the impact of this twitter backlash is but the companies have added to an
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online protest called grab your wallet. this is the same group who protested ivanka trump's brand. i reached out to the company and asked them have you seen an increase in membership cancel lagss. i have not heard back but they said neither equinox or soul cycle have anything to do with support it.his week and do not - no company profits are used to fund politicians. i want to call out this statement because most viewers are smart enough to know that this kind of response does not hold any water. people are upset and they don't want to even indirectly support the company that basically has a part owner that's supporting president trump chz powhose pol are antithetical to what they feel. >> hopefully that will happen soon and we'll see what this
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backlash leads to. thanks. john. coming up, new fears in immigrant communities following those massacres in el paso. just ahead, new fears in immigrant communities across this country. major homeland security deportation operations. we'll fill you in. stay with us. that's what happens in golf nothiand in life.ily. i'm very fortunate i can lean on people, and that for me is what teamwork is all about. you can't do everything yourself.
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new fears in immigrant communities this morning after huge i.c.e. raids in several mississippi cities. federal immigration authorities,
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they arrested nearly 700 undocumented immigrants in one day. in one case, an 11-year-old girl was pleading with officers after her mother was taken into custody. cnn's diane gallagher live in morton, mississippi where that encounter took place. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, john. that little girl wasn't the only one. these raids took place on the first day of school here in morton, mississippi and in the jackson area, leaving several children without parents when they got home. neighbors stepped in, took those kids in after what the u.s. attorney called the single largest i.c.e. raid in a state in the nation's history. 680 people were rounded up at workplaces, these processing plants, much like where i am here loaded onto buses and taken to a processing area that had been set up in an airplane hangar by the national guard.
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now, a senior immigration official tells cnn they've been using informants to determine what managers and owners knew. they were un hihiring undocumen workers. when they asked about workers who had been arrested, they said this was an ongoing criminal investigation, but this really rocked the community. i want you to listen to this little girl pleading with an i.c.e. individual to let her see her mother as he loaded her onto a bus. [ speaking foreign language ] >> please can i just see my mother, please. >> please. >> reporter: here in the community there's a little bit of confusion because as far as most of these people know, these individuals were just working. these were raids of workplaces.
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these were not necessarily individuals who had criminal histories. there's talk of this tone deaf nature, erica. this happened just before the president touched down in el paso. he was supposed to be there to comfort people who were grieving because of a white supremacist who had posted a racist screed online talking about a hispanic invasion and then killed 22 people in el paso, most of them latinos. here in mississippi there's discussion of almost what they called a victory lap that t, br about how many people were detained. most of those people who had children, erica, were released. we were told that they've been united, some of them, with their children. but again, almost 700 people were detained yesterday. >> the latest from morton, mississippi, thank you. police still searching for a motive after a random robbery and stabbing spree left four people dead and two others
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wounded in orange county, california. there's a suspect in custody. the question though this morning, what triggered the attack. paul vercammen joins us live from los angeles. >> reporter: this suspect used two machete type fives according to police after he went on this two-hour rein of terror. police say he went on this spree looking for dash. there were so many incidents, the first knife attack in his very own apartment complex. police say he burglarized two men earlier and then returned to the complex and stabbed them to death. he also hit a check cashing business. that person was not attacked. in an insurance office he stabbed a 54-year-old woman multiple times. she survived. then he goes to a gas station. he attacks a man there, stabs him in the back, and police say nearly slices off the man's nose. then he goes and kills someone at a subway restaurant. he also stabbed and killed a security guard outside the 7-eleven. what was scary for police is he
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cut out this man's gun from his holster, the security guard, but fortunately he was arrested without incident by plain clothes officers. >> we have no motive at this point. we don't know. it's pure hate this by did this. i've worked in garden grove for 30 years. this is the first time i've ever seen something like this where we have a suspect kill four people in one day and attack other people that just are innocent victims. it's pure evil when this happens and we don't see this happen every day. this is one of those things you see one time in a career. >> erica, the two people who were stabbed and survived are now in stable condition. back to you. >> details are just chilling. paul vercammen with the latest, thank you. is the white house ignoring the threat posed by domestic terror? exclusive cnn reporting next. it's show time.
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new exclusive reporting, cnn is learning white house beat back efforts by the department of homeland security to prioritize terror threats by white supremacist, telling jake tapper, quote, the white house wanted only to focus on jihadi threats. they had major idealogical blinders on. joining me now is counter-terrorism analyst phil mudd. just off the top, what is your take on this? >> do you remember the election campaign when the president -- remember, it wasn't that long ago when we spent a lot of time talking about isis. the president was talking about how he would eliminate isis. a good talking point for a president partly because if you contrast it to the white supremacy problem in the united states, isis is people overseas, the other people that we don't want in this country, so he
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could link that to some of his immigration commentary. in the face of that when you have a new team come in office that may not be that familiar with how to understand intelligence and terrorism reporting, you have officials in government come at you and say, isis is fine but the people we need to spend more resources on not only aren't isis, they're white people in this country. boy, that's a tough pill to swallow if you're new to the white house and you just got elected to the white house saying you're going to beat people overseas. >> you're saying it's that simple? >> it's not that simple and that's why political engagement is really complicated. let me give you a specific example. you remember what happened in charlottesville not that long ago. those people, some of those people before that went violent, like it or not, are exercising a free speech right in the united states, whether that you are analyze yoe nazis or not. they're allowed to demonstrate in this country. we need politicians to stand in front of cameras and say two things, one, we are going to
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investigate those kinds of people. you know the firestorm that will result from that when others say that's a free speech right they're exercising. the second thing beyond the political cover that law enforcement people need is to say we're going to shift resources from the isis fight to chase some of these people. this is tough and law enforcement and intel guys need the politicians. >> they need the politicians because as you point out they need to be able to shift resources. in response, a senior administration official telling cnn the following, the administration's national strategy for counter-terrorism was the first to ever include domestic terrorism. the national security council launched an intra agency conference in support of the president's counter-terrorism strategy. i will say, it's very clear that part of the issue is this is not something the people wanted to run up the chain to the boss. >> that's correct. if you look at the president's language and contrast it to the
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fbi director, it's not clear that the messaging from the top is the same as the messaging from the workforce that has to confront the problem. let's be clear here, documents are fine. there are two things i want to see. one is people and two is money. if you're going to put a document down and claim that you're shifting strategy, i want to see how the white house in budgets documents to the congress has put in more money and people to fight this problem. if you're running an agent, strategy is nice. i want money and i want people. finally, i want the white house to be telling the congress this is important to us, give us the money. >> there's also this point too in jake's reporting, a current senior administration official saying there is a resurgence but they are behind the curve. that is a tough thing to hear in the wake of what we just saw in el paso, especially when this was a community, a latino community that was specifically targeted. we are talking about white supremacy and domestic terror right there.
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>> behind the curve, let me explain what that means. if you're running a federal agency trying to understand this problem in 50 states, it's not just determining whether one young person in texas has a weapon, it's making sure you have the intelligence base to understand white supremacist organizations in 50 states, making sure you build the expertise up over years so you have analysts and agents who can figure this out over time and run informant networks. and the toughest part of this and we are not even close to getting here, making sure you have laws that tell people if you're going to do a wiretap or read the e-mails of someone who's a white supremacist, you might have the same authority that you have if you're fighting isis. we do not do that now. there's not been a word about that out of the white house. nobody's going to want to touch that one. we need laws that allow us to go after these people. >> phil mudd, always good to have your perspective. thank you. >> thank you. >> john? >> thanks so much, erica. the shooting in this walmart
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behind me is once again igniting the national debate over gun safety and gun sales. coming up, we're going to speak to one walmart employee who tried to stage a very big strike to send a message to the giant retailer. since my dvt blood clot
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we'll take great care of him we get it you got it oh! thank you we're petsmart thank you we're hugging in the wake of the mass shootings here in el paso and also dayton the retail giant wal-mart is facing pressure from many including some of its own employees to stop selling guns. one employee staged a walk out and is circulating a petition to pressure wal-mart to change its policies. joining me now is thomas marshal, he works in wal-mart's ecommerce division in the bay area. thank you for being with us this morning. what are you asking exactly of wal-mart? >> thank you so much for having me and putting light on this very important issue.
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what we're asking really our main reach is we would like wal-mart to stop the sale of ammunition and stop donating to nra ana plus politicians as well as to ban the concealed and open carry weapons on company property and in stores. >> so more than 42,000 people signed your petition. have you heard anything back from wal-mart yet? >> not yet. and we're really waiting on that response. you know, we understand, you know, all of us are very hit hard by this tragedy. it hit home for a lot of us, and we understand this takes time, but we're really hoping we get a response and that response is in the right direction. wal-mart has proven they're willing to take steps in the right direction. last year they raised the minimum wage to buy firearms from 18 to 21. we really believe this is
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showing something the public wants and employees want as well wal-mart will hopefully be persuaded into making this right decision. >> it's interesting you bring that up because also wal-mart is donating $400,000 at this point in the wake of these tragedies and wal-mart has tweaked its policy in the past. and let me read you, the wal-mart ceo doug mcmillen, he did put out this statement after the shootings. it said we will work to understand the many important issues that arise from el paso and southhaven, that's another shooting at happened at a wal-mart, and we'll be thoughtful and deliberate in our responses. you just noted they made changes in the past. do you feel they're being thoughtful and deliberate now? >> i truly hope so. i very much enjoy working for this company. it's a company that has always valued the input of associates since its founding. and so i truly hope that that
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response when it comes is taken into consideration our point of view as well. >> you said you truly enjoy working at this company at wal-mart. are you concerned at all about our employment? are you concerned at all about your employment status with wal-mart given that you've spoken out? >> of course. i've already faced reparations immediately on tuesday once we started going public with this, my access was completely revoked from all company systems. my laptop was pretty much made useless. so i was fired without -- i was not able to do the job without being fired technically, but as soon as that hit the press we very much tried to get that out in the public, they immediately recanted on that and came up with a reason why they would have done that and then granted my access back again. so sadly a lot of employees have very afraid of retaliation and
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damaging the reputation within the company, not able to get promotions. so a lot of people have expressed they agree with us, they feel the same way but they've all been coming to me in private saying they don't feel they are able to come out in public to support this because they are really afraid of retaliation from wal-mart. >> just to be clear, you have a job as of this morning? >> yes, i do. >> and your access has been fully restored? >> yes, because legally i have not done anything wrong, and it would have been, you know, against the first amendment for them to punish me for speaking out especially for organizing at work. you know, as americans we are very much protected to organize and protest at work. >> and again, wal-mart did not sell the weapons involved in these shootings. in fact as you noted they don't sell assault-style weapons anymore. so what change would it make to maybe prevent these mass
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shootings? >> most definitely. there rb a lot of stuies especially the one that came out from "the new york times" that state the amount of guns is directly correlated to the amount of mass shootings. and so we really hope that wal-mart with the immense economic power it has in this country will be able to set a pres dependent for either if they stop selling guns or if they simply enact much stronger regulations on background checks. say if wal-mart told its vendors of weapons to implement biometric devices in all guns, that would become an industry standard because of how powerful wal-mart is. >> thomas marshall. >> -- will listen to us and enact gun legislation that the government hasn't been able to have an influence on as of now. >> thomas marshall, thank you
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for being with us and bearing with the delay. we appreciate your input this morning. and thank you to our international viewers for watching. for you "cnn newsroom" with max foster is next. for our u.s. viewers we have exclusive cnn reporting on the gunman behind the shooting here in el paso and also the white house push back on efforts to put a greater emphasis on domestic terror. "new day" continues right now. they're very dishonest people. >> the victims were grateful the president came to dayton. >> we cannot allow one minute of one day to go by without it being about him. he's not the consoler in chief, he's the victim in chief. >> there's no one size fits all response, but we are going to try to come up with some consensus position. >> this is not a democratic or republican thing. this is every good-hearted american ready to say enough is enough. >> this is new day with alisyn
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camerota and john berman. good morning and welcome to your new day. it's 8:00 in the east, 6:00 a.m. here in el paso, texas. john berman here. alisyn is off. erica joins me from washington this morning. president trump is back in washington this morning after a day that was this strange cocktail of political combat and consoling. here in el paso and in dayton that are cities trying to heal, there's confusion about what happened during the president's visit. the president did visit hospitals where he spoke with emergency workers and families of the victims. but before, during and after he was all over the place with attacks on political opponents and some that seemed just made up. and to get a sense of where the el paso community is this morning and perhaps where the president's head is this morning on his way back to washington sostead of thinking about el


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