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unfortunate. the candidates have to address those issues. >> pastor chris harris, thank you so much for joining us. and that is it for me. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. brianna, thank so much. i'm brooke baldwin, thank you for being with me. just in the last 24 hours, the president of the united states snubs an ally, because they won't sell greenland, he praises an adversary, calling for russia to return to the g-8. he blames the media and the feds for trying to create a recession, despite all the warnings and all the while admitting he's concerned enough to consider another tax cut. he makes a move to keep migrant families and kids detained for even longer, while refusing to
give them flu shots. and after the murders in el paso and daten, he has one phone call with the nra and he backs off meaningful background checks p.m. he told the nra they were off the table. as he left the white house today, the president could not send a clear message on this incredibly urgent issue. >> i have an appetite for background checks. we're going to be doing background chics. we're working with democrats, republicans, and we already have very strong background checks. we're going to be filling in some of the loopholes as we call them, we're dealing with am dids, we're dealing with republicans. we're dealing with the nra, we're dealing with gun owners, we're dealing with everybody. and i think we're going to have something that's meaningful. >> sarah westwood is in louisvil louisville, kentucky. on this issue of guns. are we any closer in
understanding what's actually being discussed on gun reform at the white house? >> brooke, we're seeing all sorts of signals out of the white house as you just heard, we heard president trump earlier today, denying he's abandoned his push for expanded background checks. but sources do tell cnn, behind the scenes, president trump has started to cool to the idea, which he voiced frequent support for in the immediate aftermath of those two mass shootings earlier this year, that shift came after a sustained effort from the nra, from conservative lawmakers from aids and allies to try to get the president to change his mind about supporting expanded background checks. now, of course, he's being told by his aids this is a policy that could score him few political points. that could actually hurt him with his own supporters. we sort of heard him express that sentiment to reporters as he was leaving the white house to come to ken kwen. he said he was concerned democrats would not be satisfied no matter what policy he supported. take a listen.
>> i'm concerned that no matter what we agreed to, when we get there, i'm concerned the democrats will say, oh, well, we now want this or we want -- and you know, it's a slippery slope, and that's what actually your l people are concerned with, assuming that's not going to take place by the democrats assuming they want to get this done, we can get it done. >> despite all these signals president trump has been saying this idea is off the table. in february, the white house did issue a veto threat to background check legislation. the view among trump allies right now, seems to be that red flag laws which already exist in some dates is the more doable option in the short term, and that is something that president trump add least for the moment still appears to support. >> sarah, thank you very much.
>> in the aftermath of el paso and dayton becoming the 15th and 16th mass shootings in 2019, millions of children are headed back to school this week and their parents pray they will not be the next. who can blame them. in the two weeks that followed those shootings, police have reported 27 incidents where officials have thwarted plots. a 15-year-old taken into custody. >> there's a statute that says you cannot make a written threat to bring a gun to school. >> he's a little kid playing a video game. >> how do we know he's not going
to be -- >> he's just playing a video game, that's what his mom says. the teen's arrest seems to play into a pattern. most of them are 13 to 28 years of age. they are a majority white males. some of the biggest targets, schools, walmart, and churches or places of worship. >> talk about solutions to these mass shooting threats while the president is in kentucky today, that meeting was declined, the mayor of louisville is with me now currently the vice president of the vice president conference of mayors. thank you, sir. >> on this meeting -- and in fairness, it was a last minute meeting request, why were you accommodated. >> it is last minute, the president is a busy person, all
the mayors will be in washington in early september. we trust he'll meet with us then. the president does not need to be afraid. gun safety reform is mainstream, the vast majority of the americans agree with that, he is now nra members and assault rifle bans as well, all of these things are on the table. and americans are just tired this morning, a lady was telling me, you can buy a bulletproof backpack so your child can attend school. is that what our country is coming down to? we need some courage from the u.s. senate, some coverage from the senate that will pass these background checks that the house has passed. that's just a start, america doesn't want incremental reform on this, we want breakthrough reform so we can go to church, a ball game, so we can go to a club and not be worried about being gunned down and the next massacre in this country.
>> until that happens, and yes those bulletproof backpacks are a reality now. if you have that meeting, what do you say to him? >> it's a time for states manship, this is a historical time in our country that will be marked one way or the other, for the person that steps up and brings back some common sense to gun safety, the history books will mark that person with a gold star, saying they did the right thing at the right time. this is not a partisan issue, 264 mayors, republicans, democrats, independence have sent a letter to the u.s. senate saying, please pass gun reform. this is much bigger than any political party. that's an american issue. it's a uniquely american issue, but it's a human issue. we're looking for leadership here. >> it does appear to be partisan, the president is a republican. the senate majority leader who hails from your state, who has some bills from the house who he is yet to sign.
he's a republican. this is -- you talk about how he's afraid of the nra. i mean, so much of this is political. >> it is, but when you're holding the hand of a mother or a daughter whose father was just gunned down, they're not asking whether it's a little issue or not. the life of their loved one has been drained away from them, and that's why we need someone to look beyond party, be a states person at this point in time and say, this is bigger than that. we're stuck, mayors aren't stuck, mayors get things done each and every day, washington is behind america on this issue, and they need to catch up. >> after park land, the president promises that his administration will do more than just talk, you know, he doesn't make good on any of that, dayton and el paso happened. he talks about making good on background checks, reneges after talking to wayne lapierre, the head of the nra. now he's standing at the white house today saying, i have an appetite for background checks
and i'm wondering, how can anyone believe him? can you believe him? >> the question has to be repeatedly called. moms aren't going away, students aren't going away, mayors aren't going away, it has to be called so votes can be taken. whether or not we get a green light from the president or not, so people understand what's in their hearts, minds and then in this great democracy, voting takes place. this is increasingly becoming an issue that's going to be driving people out to the polls, especially young people. we see what the your honor leaders from parkland did today. that's where the decision is going to be made. for those people in the office right now, you have the american people with you. have the courage to get over whatever any special interest groups are, they're driving this in washington, d.c., and listen to your constituents. america needs you right now. >> i read the letter where he quoted muhammad ali, talking about making the impossible possible. the majority of america is behind you.
mayor greg fisher, best of luck to you and meeting with the president a little later on this year. thank you, sir. we're going to keep that going. >> president trump calls the female prime minister of denmark nasty. after she calls his idea to buy greenland absurd. but it was never for sale. he's doubling down on an old trope. accusing jews who don't vote for him of being disloyal. we have a lot to talk about today. you're watchingen consider condition, i'm brooke baldwin. "i am here." aim to say that more with aimovig. a preventive treatment for migraine in adults that reduces the number of monthly migraine days. for some, that number can be cut in half or more. don't take aimovig if you're allergic to it. allergic reactions like rash or swelling
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greenland is not for sale. greenland is not danish, greenland belongs to greenland. here is president trump just a short time ago. >> i looked forward to going, but i thought the prime minister's statement that it was absurd that it was an absurd idea was nasty. i thought it was an inappropriate statement. all she had to do is say, no, we wouldn't be interested. but we can't treat the united states of america the way they treated us under president obama. i thought it was a very not nice way of saying something, they could have told me no. this is something that's been discussed for many years, harry truman had the idea of green land. i had the idea, other people have had the idea. all they had to do was say, no, we'd rather not do that or we'd rather not talk about it. don't say, what an absurd idea that is. she shun the treat the united states that way.
she said absurd, it's not the right word to use, absurd. >> if anything, the prime minister has been more nice than nasty to the president that he was bailing on her nation. denmark is a special country with incredible people, but based on her comments that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of greenland, i will be postponing our meetings scheduled in a few weeks nor another time. this is before the president called her comments nasty. >> it is with regret and surprise that i receive the news that president trump has cancelled his state visit, i've been looking forward to the visit. this does not change the character of our good relations. and we will, of course from denmark continue our on going dialogue on the u.s. of how we can develop our corporation. joining me now is a member of a
liberal party. he's also the chairman of the foreign affairs committee. thank you so much for being on with me. i just set it all up. you heard the president call her nasty, et cetera. your response? >> i think it's been some very surreal days, and now it's the tip of the iceberg to state quite clearly this was absurd. the prime minister spoke for the entire nation. >> everyone thinks it's absurd? >> absolutely. the whole idea that we could sell greenland, when it's been part of the kingdom of denmark for so many years. it's also under home rule. meaning the 55,000 people who live in greenland actually can decide on their own who theyen watt to be part of or not. the whole idea was surreal and absurd to start with. to cancel a visit to a very close friend and ally is so
strange to us, that is actually being perceived by everyone as a grave insult. >> let's remind everyone -- you don't need reminding, but for people in america who may be listening and how much of an ally denmark is to the u.s. denmark has sent troops to afghanistan, to iraq, syria, kosovo, mali. 43 were killed in afghanistan, denmark is a founding member of nato. you say this is insulting, how damaging is this to the danish/u.s. relationship? >> we had strong ties with the u.s. before president trump. and we will have strong ties after president trump leaves off. the whole way that president trump is behaving is costing the relationship somewhat. i hope it won't damage the relationship in the future. what we'll try to do is to have
a good relationship with the country of the u.s. as a whole. trying to see if we can strengthen our ties with congress, with the administration in general, secretary of state and so on. but president trump apparently lacks any diplomatic skills whatsoever, and we have to take that into account. >> also taking into account the backdrop of this, we were listening to the president 24 hours ago, expressing his support for reinstating russia into what is now the g-7, what will become the g-8 if included. what does it say that he's treating russia and vladimir putin better than denmark and your people? >> every day i say to myself that president trump cannot get any stranger than yesterday, he always succeeds somehow. russia is a great threat to the stability in europe and in the west in general. after they annexed ukraine, the
entire western side of europe have seen russia be more and more aggressive against us. to see president trump trying to be more friends with putin than us, is sad to say the least. >> one more question for you, sir. we have just learned that in the midst of all of this that president obama will be traveling to denmark next month. presumably the former u.s. president, this trip has been in the works for a while, the announcement coming right now. what do you make of that? >> well, president obama is a very great friend of denmark, has been the entire presidency, and there's no question that the population as a whole, president obama is still being perceived as a close friend. so he will get a very very warm welcome. >> michael, thank you so much from denmark, nice to have you
on. >> thank you, you're welcome. the trump administration makes a move that could keep migrant families in detention even longer. what's behind the latest plan that could make the overcrowding problem even worse. more white house whiplash, president trump's ever changing thoughts on a recession and payroll tax cut. we'll be right back. iand i don't add up the years. but what i do count on... is staying happy and healthy. so, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost®. boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals your body needs. all with guaranteed great taste. and now try new boost® peaches and creme natural flavor. with 27 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. boost®. be up for life™.
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belief makes them disloyal to people. speaking of tropes, he's resurrected the nasty woman title and using it against the prime minister of denmark. discussion of background checks is on again, though no policy was actually mentioned. >> we can close up the gaps, do things that are very good, and things that frankly gun owners want to have done, but we have to remember the gun doesn't pull the trigger, a person does, and we have great mental illness. >> no specifics, though, joining me now, michael deanne tone yo. that was a sliver of all the president went through today. it was a lot. even for this president. what due think is really going on. >> i think he's very concerned about the 2020 election. he has concepts like weakness
and strength in his mind at all times. when he backed away from background checks and it appeared that the nra was pushing him around many people observed the president's own weakness and so today he's going to use that term but he's going to throw it at somebody else. the same is true when he uses words like nasty to talk about other people. it's really something he knows is true about himself, and even this whole thing about -- we have tremendous mental illness. i think we see mental illness displayed in the oval office on the white house lawn on a regular basis. so he's hinting at things that are real and that are serious, but he's sort of flipping them and putting them on other people. >> he also on the same day he doubles down at his dual loyalty claim, he retweets a tweet where he's saying, i'm the king of
israel, and refers to himself there on the lawn saying, i'm the chosen one in terms of taking on china, we know this man has a healthy ego. but this feels different. >> well, it is different, and, you know, you could also say he has a very unhealthy ego, but it's wounded in some way that requires him to constantly build himself up. he is aware that evangelical americans especially conser conservative evangelicals who support him are fixated on israel. they used to be very anti-israel, they used to be very critical of israel in all respects. now they identify with israel and they think of themselves as almost the fulfillment of god's plan. and that israel is essential to it, so he's throwing out these notions that i am chosen.
well, jews are considered the chosen people, when he talks about being the king or something else, and the second coming. that mixes up terms that have nothing to do with judaism. it's a reference to religion and he wants to play with that now. >> there was one more clip i want to play. a claim or a threat that he would let isis prisoners into france and germany. >> we're holding thousands of isis fighters right now. and europe has to take them. if europe doesn't take them, i'll have no choice but to release them into the countries from which they came. which is germany and france and other places. >> michael, i can't climb into his head, i don't know if he's kidding. this is the president of the united states, that is releasing isis prisoners into france and germany and other countries? that is not even close to being funny. >> no, it's not close to being
funny, and i think since he is the president of the united states we should all take him seriously, pretty much at all times, you know, he's not a guy who can tell a joke, so i wouldn't assume he's ever joking. he'll mock people, make fun of others, he's not a guy that tells jokes. this i would take very seriously as a clue to how his mind works. there is nothing more depraved than the notion of releasing would be terrorists on to the streets of our allies, and yet this is what he's going to propose. i don't know where this derangement is headed. but it's very disturbing to watch and i think it's most instructive when it comes to the president's own temperament and personality, and his fitness for
office. >> you said it, michael d antonio, thank you. >> thank you, brooke. white supremacy in our schools? the latest on this investigation
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children. president trump's move today. they set a 20 day limit for holding children. the new plan paves the way for indefinite detention of families while allowing the government to use different detention standards. this is what the homeland security secretary had to say. >> all children in government's care will be treated with dignity, respect and special concern in concert with american values and faithful to the intent of the original settlement. the facilities we will be using to temporarily house families under this rule are fundamentally different. there are campus like settings with rick reational, dining and private housing facilities. >> the rule change is meant to reduce the number of families illegally entering the united states. a federal judge must sign off on today's rule change which faces an almost certain legal challenge. with me now, national
immigration reporter with the new york times, kaitlyn, first of all, explain how they're able to change the rules, how that would impact the immigration system and specifically these children. >> the idea hoar ere is to mini the number of people crossing the border. this has been a pet project for president trump since day one. when you hear him talk about legal loopholes, highs talking about family detention. if they can detain families indefinitely, that it will deter people from am coulding to the united states. >> what do you think? >> it's possible. we talked about various deterrence measures and whether they're going to work. we don't have evidence so far that they do. you bear down on all the people trying to cross the border right now, to now wait in mexico,
before crossing the border or wait months before they can get on a line to the united states border to try to apply for asylum, there's so many different things keeping people from coming in, and when they do enter, going into these facilities, where conditions have been discussed, very difficult, not enough food, not enough blankets. not mats to sleep on, kids are sleeping on the floor, and you heard the secretary talk about how the standards will be upheld that children will be kept in good conditions. but remember, this is the administration where a few months ago lawyers were in court arguing as part of the flores settlement against needing to supply things like toothpaste. they were arguing in court, they're not hiding what their goals are. >> there have been conversations about providing flu shots to some of these people in detention facilities. what are the -- presumably there will be appeals, there will be fights against this notion of closing this loophole. how tough of a battle will that
be? >> i think it's going to be very difficult in particular to this 20 day rule, which is something that the judge is going to have to take this regulation too. she's the one that decided on the 20 day rule, they're going to have too try to talk her out of it, that's going to be hard. we have seen prolonged detention in the past, the 20 day rule only dates back to 2015, it's fairly recent. we also saw dozens of the separated families being held in long term detention last summer, and what advocates describe seeing. when you have families staying longer than 20 days. things like bed wetting, kids refusing to eat, refusing to leave their parents side or starting to bite or starting to get violent with other kids. that's the concern, if they are successful in winning the elimination of this 20 day rule, what's that going to look like, the administration hopes it l k looks fewer families crossing the border. as i said, with one deterrent measure, we don't have any evidence that that will work,
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election fears, another economic about face as he dismissed the idea of a possible payroll tax cut to stimulate the economy. >> i'm not looking at a tax cut now, we don't need it, we have a strong economy. president obama had zero interest rates, i don't have zero interest, i have real interest rates. despite that, i have a strong economy. >> just let me remind you what president trump had to say about payroll tax cuts yesterday. >> payroll tax is something that we think about, and a lot of people would like to see that. >> we've rewritten this three times today. sometimes his views on the recession evolve within one press conference. >> who's fault is it? let's play some sound first.
let's go to our first bit of sound. donald trump talking about the recession or not recession. >> i'm doing this whether it's good or bad for your statement about will we fall into a recession for two months. somebody had to take china -- my life would be a lot easier if i didn't take china on. i like doing it, because i have to do it. and we're getting great results. >> there's part one. now, let's play this -- same background, same chair, same suit and tie combo from donald trump, because it's from the same day. >> i think the word recession is a word that's inappropriate. because it's just a word that the -- certain people, i'm going to be kind, certain people in the immediate yar trying to build up, because they'd love to see a recession, we're very far from a recession. >> but you just said that -- okay. also, let's add this in, mick
mulvaney, white house chief of staff is in wyoming, this week, this is what he had to say, fund-raising luncheon in jackson, wyoming. if you face the recession, it would be moderate and short mulvaney told the audience. i thought the recession wasn't. donald trump correcting himself literally in the same press conference, and his chief of staff saying a recession would be moderate and short. so there we are brooke. >> there we are as of 2:48:13 on wednesday 8/21/19. and when things aren't going so great, the president tends to finger point, but then the targets for blame keep changing. >> we know he does not like to blame himself, he will blame anyone else. who he blames can change rapidly. what you'ring looing at here, august 21st, 5:32 a.m., draw your own conclusions. the fake news, lame stream media
is doing everything they can to cause a recession. they will do anything, that doesn't matter to them. our economy is so strong. got it. let's play this sound. >> we have such a strong economy, if the fed did what they were supposes to do, they would drop interest rates by 100 basis points, they maybe would do not only not tightening, but they'd do some loosening or leave it alone, do nothing. but they drop interest rates by 100 basis points or more. nobody -- nobody would be able to compete with the united states. right now the fed is tieing our hands, because we're paying interest rates and germany and other countries that aren't like us are not -- it should be the other way around, the fed has missed the call for a long time. >> the tweet is about seven hours from that clip you just saw, which is from donald
trump's press conference today. even within a day, even within a press conference, even within a matter of minutes. he can change whether we're in recession, potentially, whether we're not, who's to blame, who's not. it's not, he's making it up as he goes along. i think the two 1/2 years of his presidency are ample proof of that very theory. >> chris, i appreciate you pointing out all the twists and turns, thank you very much. we have to get to this, parents and teachers outraged, they were kept in the dark about students giving this nazi salute. once again the president is all over the place when it comes to guns, background checks. i'll talk to a father whose son survived. and he's had enough.
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the administrators at pacifica high did not tell them about this at an awards banquet. it shows members of the water polo team giving the nazi salute and singing a nazi marching song. the video was reported last november. it was shared on social media by a group of students. four months would pass before school administrators would find out about it. parents called it horrifying. >> why did it take four months for the school administration to hear about this incident.
did the school board know about the incident at the same time as the school administrators? if so, why did it take five months for the rest of us to hear about it. >> we were not informed of this event by our add american station or district leadership. we were completely blindsided and we feel outraged. >> sara sidner is covering this for us. and so what exactly has the school district said? initially they said the school had taken care of this when they learned of it, about four months after that video was put out there in 2018 we took care of it, we disciplined the students, talked to their parents, then the district said yesterday, actually, the school did not take this as seriously as it needed to.
and the district did not know about this video. they only learned of the video after it was published. so everyone in the community new about it and certainly the nation now knows about it. now they are reopening an investigation into this, partly because of this video, because they hadn't seen it. and because they have seen new videos, one of which i have seen, which shows -- appears to show two students at the school, walking around with a german flag, and marching like they're marching in the third reich. when you look at this on the face, the students took the time to learn a nazi marching song in german, and then they also decided it was can i to throw up
their hands in a nazi salute while at a school function it was supposed to be one of their. they went into a separate room and did this unsupervised. . there's a lot of kids gathered there, this is at least a dozen kids that took part in this, i want to know there is one kid we see stand up and walk out of the area, he never does the salute, he leaves the area and good on him this has outraged the community, the teachers, the parents. they feel like the school let them all down, clearly something more needs to be done not only because of this video, there are others coming out, and the students say this has been a problem for a while now. the students are glad there's an
actual investigation going on, that is far wider than the one that was initially done in march of 2019, brooke? >> makes so many questions about how they would learn about this song. so much. they're educating themselves, not educating themselves about what it does to the jewish community. >> 13 miles away, this happened in a similar situation with another kid doing a nazi salute with a swastika at a party. >> i'm glad we're covering it, you're covering, thank you. >> i want to begin this hour with a question, the president cannot seem to answer do you or do you not support