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>> isn't the sun supposed to be up? isn't it supposed to be morning? >> the time changed. that is a bummer, but it's beautiful. it's like we decorated that in tech color. >> this is new day, it is tuesday, november 5th, 6:00 here in new york, and we have reached the public phase of the impeachment inquiry with some fascinating transcripts now being released from the closed door interviews with diplomats like marie yovanovitch. transcripts of testimony from two key witnesses, kurt volker and u.s. ambassador to the e.u. gordon sondland could be released at any moment. we will go through them and bring you the highlights. text messages established that both men along with rudy giuliani were directly involved in these back channel efforts by the trump administration to get ukraine to publicly announce investigations into the bidens and democrats. >> this morning we're pouring over the testimony just released of two key state department employees, former ambassador to
ukraine marie yovanovitch, and michael mckinley. yovanovitch reports being concerned about her safety because of statements from the president. mckinley's testimony suggested in bright neon flashing lights that if mike pompeo was not flat out lying in public about the dismissal of yovanovitch he is parsing language in a misleading way. you will hear efforts by the president and his key allies to the out the whistle-blower. there's a lot to get to this morning. let's begin on capital hill with cnn's suzanne malveaux. these transcripts, some are out. some could be coming any manhattan. >> absolutely. house democrats releasing these transcripts, hundreds and hundreds of pages. if you go through it, you get a chance to see republicans as well as democrats participating in this process, questioning
these witnesses and piecing together this story as this process becomes public. >> with the first transcripts from the impeachment inquiry going public, president trump's intensifying his attacks against the whistle-blower who started it all. >> the whistle-blower said lots of things that weren't so good, folks. >> house investigators releasing hundreds of pages of testimony from the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. the career diplomat saying behind closed doors she was warned to watch my back because of trump lawyer rudy giuliani and his associates. court the rough transcript of the july 25th phone call, president trump told ukraine's new president that yovanovitch was bad news and warned she's going to go through some things. yovanovitch telling lawmakers i didn't know what it meant. i was very concerned. i still am. when asked did you feel threatened? her answer simply yes. >> obviously she was the object
of a tremendous smear campaign. we want to know how deep that went. >> reporter: under pressure from the president's allies, yovanovitch says she sought advice from ambassador to the european union gordon sondland. his suggestion go big or go home. you need to tweet out there you support the president. yovanovitch at the center of michael mckinley's testimony, the former top aide to secretary of state mike pompeo explaining why he abruptly resigned days before his deposition. he says the state department did not support career civil servants caught up in the inquiry, and he was troubled by what appears to be the utilization of our ambassadors overseas to advance domestic political objectives. mckinley says he repeatedly raised concerns according to the transcript of his testimony and asked pompeo to publicly state his support for yovanovitch. that directly contradicts pompeo's account in an interview last month. >> i never heard him say a
single thing about his concerns with respect to the decision -- >> so you were never asked -- >> not once. >> reporter: and also we are waiting for two more transcripts to be released later today. a former special u.s. envoy kurt volker as well as the testimony from e.u. ambassador gordon sondland, both who provided explosive stories behind the scenes who are waiting for more details on that. a big question on capitol hill on whether or not john bolton will testify as scheduled on thursday. >> suzanne malveaux on capitol hill, thank you very much. we're going to give you the key moments from the testimony we've already seen, and we're going to play you the shocking comment overnight from senator rand paul that as we said is frankly cowardly. stick around. what if numbers tell only half the story?
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president trump and his allies are ramping up their efforts to unmask the whistle-blower, whose report you know sparked the impeachment inquiry. here is republican senator rand paul with president trump last night. >> the whistle-blower needs to come before congress as a material witness because he worked for joe biden at the same time hunter biden was getting money from corrupt oligarchs. i say tonight to the media, do your job and print his name. >> joining us knnow joe lockhar cnn political analyst and
politics and white house editor for "axios." ooh, that sneaky senator. he's trying to get us to do his dirty work and say the name of the whistle-blower, which is illegal. if he knows the name, if he thinks he knows the background, i mean, he's giving all this information that is not proven. there's no evidence of anything he's saying. if he knows it, why doesn't he say it? i'll tell you why he doesn't say it. don't answer that. because it's illegal, and he knows that. >> he's a small man. i have to tell you what he just did there was small and cowardly right there. if he's got something to say, if he wants to break the law, do it, but to sit there on that stage and say oh, others should do it right now. i'm not going to say others should do my work for me. that's small. >> i think it's part of a broader republican strategy, particularly this week when you've got all of this testimony coming out which really just nails down what happened with ukraine and all the different players. they are desperate every day to
light a bonfire someplace to say look over here. don't look at the substance, look over here, and that was last night's edition. i don't know what we'll get tod today, but that is their strategy. their strategy is every day to take any norm, any law. they'll do anything to make sure that we don't stay focused on what's in this testimony. >> yeah. i mean, i will say margaret there are consequences, though, to this, and those consequences include the safety of the whistle-blower. those consequences include the sanctity of whistle-blowers in general. >> law. >> going forward and the law. >> yeah, john and alisyn good morning. my news organization decided at the outset that the whistle-blower has legitimate protections and we weren't going to be in the business of attempting to oust this person. i think most major news organizations do as well. >> cnn does as well. >> there are laws protecting
whistle-blowers. there's not as strong as the lawyers for whistle-blowers want those laws to be. the laws are in place for a reason. the whistle-blower has been found to not only have used legitimate avenues to bring these concerns forward but to have done it in an appropriate way, and the other thing i note is that the whistle-blower's sort of initial raising ocing o flag has kind of been bypassed by all these other people who have come forward in these depositions skmrand some of whoo are volunteering to speak publicly as the investigation moves into the next phases. i think you can also question how crucial the whistle-blower's initial complaint really was. one last bit, rand paul you heard him talking about how the whistle-blower supposedly worked for joe biden. obviously it's complicated because in order to put that in context, one would have to say who the whistle-blower was, but there are thousands of people who work in the federal government and many of them have worked across multiple administrations for both
parties. so i think that's where we are. >> who could say the whistle-blower works for donald trump. the whistle-blower is in the government. well, the whistle-blower works for donald trump. clearly he's a partisan, if if you were going to make such an intellectually dishonest argument. the whistle-blower's information has been corroborated seven times over. we see the transcript ourselves now, it's been released of the phone call, and there are all sorts of diplomats who have come forward. the whistle-blower is a red herring at this point. you don't need that whistle-blower anymore. >> you'll remember the first republican action to the whistle-blower was it's hearsay. you can't pay attention to what he's saying -- he or she is saying because they weren't firsthand and then when all the firsthand information came in and it was more devastating than they thought it could be, they all of a sudden had to go back and change their attack on the whistle-blower. and you know, the laws are the laws. the intent is clear. the intent is to allow people in the government to without fear of retribution, without fear of
having their lives disrupted to come forward and pass on information. there's no doubt about that. >> and rand paul knows the law. he knows the law, and that's why he did, and that's why he said he was small right there because he's trying to get others to do the dirty work for him. the transcripts yesterday we poured through had really interesting developments. marie yovanovitch was pressured to send out tweets praising the president to save his job, and michael mckinley who was seen as working closely with mike pompeo for a long time explained why he quit. he said he was disgusted with the politicalization of the state department, and also said that he had asked three times, three times before marie yovanovitch was pulled from her ambassadorship in ukraine for a statement of public support to her which flies in the face of this careful gymnastics language that mike pompeo used not under oath but in an interview about that. so listen to this. >> from the time that ambassador yovanovitch departed ukraine until the time that he came to
tell me that he was departing, i never heard him say a single thing about his concerns with respect to the decision that was made. >> you were never asked -- >> not once, not once george did ambassador mckinley say something to me during that entire time period. >> you know why mike pompeo was saying during that time period? because mckinley talked to him before that time period, and when george stephanopoulos asked a follow-up, you were never asked to put out a statement in support of ambassador yovanovitch there was a word salad, margaret, right there. what we have again from pompeo right here is misleading, i think misleading statements about an episode that he clearly knows about. why is the dismissal of yovanovitch a sensitive subject for mike pompeo? >> well, that's a complicated question because in part mike pompeo would like to have a future beyond the white house, and his handling of this situation may affect that. but it is also because it is one of those sort of pivotal building blocks that goes to the question of what was the sort of
state of mind, not just in the white house but throughout the administration as testimony continues we know increasingly that there are a number of officials who complained both to pompeo and to gordon sond lalan about her treatment, about rudy giuliani's involvement, about the president's behavior, and we're seeing emerge a picture that a lot of those concerns were sort of tamped down or said, well, you know what this is up to the president. and so this is more evidence of that. i think in mr. sondland's case, we are also seeing some contradictions between the testimony that we believe that he gave and what others experienced, and so as that transcript comes out also there's going to be a real scrutiny to compare what has already been said from various people. >> i mean, and luckily people who want to read more can go online, cnn.com, there are the top takeaways from all of this boiled down because it's really important, i think, to
understand that yovanovitch knew that rudy giuliani saw her as an impedime impediment, and she was an impediment to him getting what he wants though he's not in the state departmentme. thank you very much. it is election day here in the u.s. okay, not presidential election, but there are some crucial votes, and some of these races will perhaps tell us how voters are feeling heading into the 2020 race. so we have reporters in several of these pivotal states next.
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it is here, several major contests across the country today that really will test voter enthusiasm ahead of 2020. we have reporters in mississippi, virginia, and kentucky. we want to begin with kentucky where president trump was last night attending a rally for the state's incumbent and embattled governor matt bevin. bevin is locked in a tight race with the state's attorney general. live with a look there, evan. >> reporter: good morning, we sure do get up early here at cnn, don't we? voting has begun here in kentucky, which is one of two red states voting today that trump won big in back in 2016. here in kentucky back in may, this looked like a really close race where incumbent governor matt bevin might really struggle. he's had a lot of nasty fights with the teachers here, he's gone after medicaid expansion,
but republicans say it's that tone of voice that actually makes bevin likely to win today, and it's not just republican operatives saying it here, the republican president said it here last night with matt bevin at a rally. >> when he needs something for kentucky like money, like aid, like he wants me to call one of the many manufacturers now that are coming into kentucky, he's such a pain in the ass, but that's what you want. >> so i talked to a republican close to the campaign last night, the bevin campaign last night, and they said look, a lot of people say, at least the press says a lot of people say, that people want politicians to be nicer and get along better and build bridges, but he's like i've never seen that, and here in kentucky he doesn't think that that's what's going to determine the election. basically what he says if this
election is about trump, social issues and the economy, bevin's got it. democrats say, look, we've kept this pretty close, which shows we actually have some motivation as well. polls close at 6:00, and we'll see which one of these strategies, democrats focus on local issues, republican's focus on national issues wins the race. >> john and i have been up since 3:00 so cry us a river, okay? but great to have you. great to have you and we really look forward to working with you. >> thank you. >> okay. talk to you soon. mississippi voters are also electing a governor today, both president trump and vice president pence have campaigned for the republican nominee, tate reeves. reeves is running against the state's democratic attorney general. cnn's dianne gallagher is live in jackson for us with more. hi, dianne. >> reporter: yeah, we're seeing something here in mississippi very similar to what evan described in kentucky.
republicans trying to run this national race with democrats' focus on the local and state issues. now, look, jim hood is the only statewide elected democrat in the state of mississippi and is running for what many consider a surprisingly competitive race here in mississippi. now, tate reeves has closely aligned himself with the president, having president trump and vice president pence come in in the last minutes before this election do some campaigning for him here. there's one little issue, though, if you were jim hood and we were looking at this even though it's a competitive race, mississippi does things differently. in order to win the governorship, he has to win not just the popular vote, but also the majority of state house districts, and john, republicans have every single office, the majority here in both houses and the governorship of course making that one bit more difficult for hood to overcome in this election. >> it makes it very difficult for a democrat.
thank you very much. the political stakes high in virginia today as well, republicans in danger of losing control of both houses of the state legislature. cnn ryan nobles live in washington with a preview. >> reporter: yeah, john, these off year elections in virginia usually pretty sleepy. not too many virginians pay attention. voter turnout usually pretty low. this year could be different. democrats came within one race that ended in a tie two years ago from taking back the house of delegates. today every single legislative seat sup for re-election, and democrats believe they can take control of the house and senate for the first time in two deck kat -- decade. this purple state continues to trend blue, especially in the trump era. democrats have also been helped by a supreme court decision that upheld a lower court decision that tossed out district maps that were much more favorable to republicans. republicans, though, still have hope for two reasons.
one, there's not a statewide race driving turnout today. each race will have its own unique local issues that could influence the results. second the three most prominent democrats in the state, the governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general have all been a part of big scandals that republicans have attempted to tie the local candidates to. of course the republican ka candidates are being tied to president trump, and nation. part of the reason why you've seen several presidential candidates including bernie sanders, joe biden and kamala harris all make their way to virginia, polls close tonight 7:00 eastern. >> very interesting, ryan. thank you so much for the preview. coming up, we have some breaking news for you out of syria where al baghdadi's center has just been captured. an exclusive report from a cnn reporter embedded with turkish troops. next.
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. breaking news, a senior turkish official tells cnn they have captured the sister of former isis leader al baghdadi. they're being interrogated. clashes continue along the border despite a fragile cease fire that allowed turkey to capture territory once held by u.s. backed kurdish forces. a car bomb went off in one syrian city. it killed 19 people. ja monaca ra cha is embedded with turkish forces as they conduct a demining operation.
tell us what's happening. >> reporter: well, for more alisyn on that raid, senior turkish official is telling us that baghdadi's sister was captured along with her husband and a daughter-in-law. they were captured in northern syria in a housing container, and now they are basically turkish authorities are interrogating them, and as you mentioned, they believe that this could potentially be an intelligence gold mine. they're hoping to get insights into how isis operates, it's something that would help turkey and europe understand the threat that is caused by isis. isis does remain a serious threat for turkey. another threat, officials say is kurdish separatists, syrian kurdish fighters who up until recently were operating in this area. we' as you recall this was one of the locations that saw some seriously intense fighting when that turkish offensive began on october the 9th, and it's been
about three weeks since major combat operations came to an end here, but still we're seeing turkish forces who were embedded with today carrying out clearance operations. they're sweeping areas and sweeping them multiple times checking for explosives, for devices that have been left, and we are told by turkish officials that they're finding explosives on a daily basis and diffusing them, anywhere between 10 to 100 devices on a daily basis according to a senior turkish official. and just a short time ago a car obama, we're told, exploded in the center of the town of telabia. this coming a few days after that devastating car bomb attack took place at a marketplace, a civilian area where at least 19 people were killed in that attack on saturday. now, no one claimed that attack, but turkey blames kurdish
fighters for that attack. the syrian democratic forces that mainly syrian fighting forces have denied any responsibility for that attack. these kinds of missions are critical, especially as they're seeing civilians starting to return to their homes. according to the united nations more than 20,000 people have returned to the town in the past few days. so this is what makes these clearing operations very critical, john. >> please stay safe and keep us posted because the livelihood of these people who are returning is so important. thank you very much. the cowboys beat the giants on monday night football thanks to the fact the giants stink, and also they had an assist from a black cat. really? andy scholes has more in the bleacher report. >> halloween was last week, but the black cat's apparently still out at metlife stadium in new york, and this particular one apparently bad luck for the
giants. this little guy came onto the field with the giants up 9-3 in the quarter. kevin harwin had an all time great radio call for the people listening at home. >> walking to the 3, he's at the 2, and the cat is in the cdw red zone. now a policeman, a state trooper has come on the field, and the cat runs into the end zone, that is a touchdown! and the cat is elusive. kind of like barkley and elliott. now ghooes back on the field again. there's running in the back of the end zone, and it runs up the tunnel. >> and the fact that harlan mixed in a sponsor in that call just incredible. now from that point on, the cowboys outscored the giants 34-9. dak prescott throws three touchdowns. cowboys improve to 5-3 on the season. dallas as won six straight over the giants. i know how much you love to keep track of your new york sports
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the u.s. supreme court. an appeals court unanimously ruled against the president rejecting his legal team's argument that he has immunity from criminal investigation while in the white house. joining us now is cnn legal analyst, a former federal prosecutor. i guess i have three questions here. >> you only get one. >> bottom line here is the supreme court may just not hear this at all, may say you know what? there's no case here because the appeals court was so sweeping in its ruling, which was to say you know what? you don't really have the immunity, but we don't even have to make that decision because your case is so bad. >> the supreme court does not have to take any case it does not want to. the supreme court only takes a very small fraction of the cases that people try to get in front of it. usually under 5%. now, when the supreme courts decided whether to take a case they're looking typically at a few things. first of all, is this a close call? i think the second circuit opinion makes clear in their view it's not a close call at all. f it was a 3-0 decision.
four judges have said this is not a close call. they're also looking for is this the kind of thing that different courts around the country are disagreeing on and there's no disagreement. this is the first time this specific issue has come up. i think there's a chance the supreme court says no thanks. if that happens, then yesterday's decision stands and the d.a. gets the tax returns. >> that's interesting. when could all of this play out? what's the time line for the supreme court deciding whether to take it or not? >> the supreme court is on its own time line. they have the luxury of doing that. i think we will know within the next two, three weeks whether they are taking it or not. >> and this was a case that was about is the president immune from investigations and the judges in their writing said we don't think that's the case, but our ruling isn't based on that. our ruling is based on the fact that, what, it's actually the accounting firm. >> one of the distinctions that the court made yesterday is this is not even a subpoena served on the president himself. this is a subpoena served on a third party, a bank, an accounting firm, and the president's trying to come in
from the outside and stop it. no you cannot do that. the most pareimportant part of decision is what you said before, the court of appeals said no way to this 5th avenue defense. you've gone too far in arguing that you cannot even be investigated while you're in office. the second circuit said absolutely you can be investigated and they said that evidence can be used to prosecute you, not you donald trump, but a president after you're out of office. >> let's talk about these two giuliani associates, ukrainians who were arrested for basically laundering money, foreign money to influence u.s. elections, lev parnas is one of their names. they ran a company called fraud guarantee just by the by. cnn's reporting is that lev parnas may be open to cooperating with impeachment investigators. why? >> it's such an interesting development, and i tried to think about this, what if i was the attorney for lev parnas. there's two tracks here. i would say to him if you're going to dig in and fight this
case, you're not talking to anybody about anything. you're not talking to congress. you're not talking to the prosecutors, you're taking the 5th if you get a subpoena, and we'll go to trial. on the other hand if you're interested in cooperating this could be a first step in that direction. if you show the southern district, hey, i'm willing to come forward with some information, it's potentially valuable, and i would bank on the fact that the southern district in congress may be coordinating here, at least to stay out of each other's way. it's consistent with him taking a step towards cooperating. >> and it will be complicated on how the coordination between congress and the federal prosecutors work because one doesn't want to grant immunity without the other. how would you characterize whether this is good news for rudy giuliani? >> it's bad news for rudy giuliani, i think decisively. i would be very worried about these guys cooperating. if they do cooperate with the southern district, that's all or nothing. you have to tell everything you know about everybody. if i have a chance to cooperate this guy as a prosecutor, i would say let's start with rudy giuliani and go from there. >> it's going to be very
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everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. elie hon michigan was key to president trump's victory in 2016, and it will be a key battleground again in 2020. so how is impeachment playing in one swing district in that swing state? cnn's jason carol went there to find out. he joins us live from detroit. what'd they tell you, jason? >> good morning to you, alisyn, as you can imagine no shortage of opinions here. we really got an earful. this district much like the rest of the country, people here split on how they feel about the impeachment inquiry. picturesque small towns, affluent suburbs and overwhelmingly white, michigan 11th is a congressional district carved out of an area just northwest of detroit.
>> who won the state of michigan after decades? >> reporter: it's also a district that voted for trump in 2016, then flipped and elected a democratic congress won haley stevens in last year's midterms. it's a swing district in a swing state, so no surprise voters split on the impeachment inquiry. >> i think it's a sham. okay? i think the president -- >> horrible. >> horrible? >> it's horrible. just horrible what they're doing. >> the president's doing a great job. >> reporter: in plymouth, michigan, rita dunning, a former auto worker proudly shows her support for trump on her ford pickup truck. >> women in michigan love president trump. >> i saw your truck. >> women quit saying women are not for trump. >> reporter: tell that to amy neil a marketing director who says the inquiry is long overdue. >> i think it's heading in the right direction finally, the impeachment. i think we're getting the evidence we need, and i -- you know, i hope he gets what's
coming to him. >> ups worker steven play says it's the democrats who deserve to have what's coming to them. he says for undermining a president who has done so well on the economy. >> look at the real estate. i mean, house goes on the market, it's gone in a week. i mean, the economy's just bo booming. >> reporter: since trump's election, the state's unemployment rate has dropped nearly one point. he narrowly won michigan in twi2016 after obama won it twice. >> he needs to face consequences for his actions. >> she says it's about more than just the bottom line. >> i think it's important that the inquiry be going on. i also think it's important that we not be distracted by it and that there's actually governance going on. >> 30 miles northeast of plymouth in the upscale suburb of birmingham, former marine paul kane also supports the
inquiry. >> i wouldn't define myself as left or right wing. i'm more middle of the road. i've just been very disappointed in president trump's behavior. >> cane says he's upset over how the president and his allies have criticized decorated war veteran and white house official lieutenant colonel alexander vandm vindman. >> reporter: a financial adviser could not disagree more. >> i think that the democrats are really just trying to overturn the results from 2016, and i think it's going to fail miserably. >> reporter: he also says his newly elected democratic congresswoman haley stevens will pay a political price for supporting the inquiry. so much division, but that doesn't mean those who may disagree cannot be friends. >> all of you 50, you've been friends, some of you since grade school, and you can all talk politics? >> yes, absolutely. even after we have a couple drinks. >> reporter: this group celebrating their lifelong friendship, and their differences. >> i think as a country we've
forgotten that we're all the same on some level, political divisiveness isn't what is going to further this country. we have to act on a common ground. >> reporter: so as you heard there, a lot of disagreement out here, john. here's one point where both sides can agree. we found a lot of people out here who seem to be confused about how the whole impeachment inquiry works, how long it will take, and whatever the result may be if the country will end up being more divided than ever. john. >> jason carroll for us in detroit. really interesting to hear from people: joining me now cnn political commentator, the former democratic governor of virginia, and dnc chair, mr. governor thank you so much for being with us. what does it tell you that there is such division out there on the issue of impeachment, particularly in these swing states combined with what we saw yesterday from the "new york times" polls, which show a razor thin margin in these battleground states.
what does that all tell you? >> i think if you go up to virginia, today we have elections, and it looks like for the first time, john, in 26 years the democrats will take control of both the house, the senate, and have the governor's mansion. and i would say that, you know, impeachment's out there. people are thinking about it, but that's not what's driving people to the polls today. democrats are going to lower prescription drug prices. they've got an economy moving forward. we're going to raise the minimum wage, we're going to pass the e.r.a. i think folks in the states pay attention to the issues that affect them every day. what impeachment has done i can tell you here in virginia is kept people engaged in politics. they're paying attention, and in virginia this is a state that donald trump, you know, the white house is 1.4 miles from virginia. he's gone to kentucky, he's gone to mississippi, he's gone to louisiana. we're a huge election today, and he has not been able to come into this state. so it tells you something, and i think one when he did the government shutdown it hurt so many federal workers in this
state. in addition, we're a huge defense state, largest naval base in the world, the pentagon, quantico, they don't like what he's done with the kurds in syria, so trump is not on the ballot, but he's there because of the actions he's taken, and it's reminding people that they need to get out and vote. we in 2017 lost one seat, john. we had won it on election night by one vote. then an over vote got counted and then the winner got picked out of a bowl. i think people realize we're changing virginia for the future today. trump a part of it but not a big part about it. >> you sound very confident about the election in virginia. how confident, and what will it tell you given all these environmental advantages for democrats in virginia that you just listed? what will it tell you if somehow they don't come out victorious in both houses? >> i would be shocked. i personally have done about 131 events, so i've seen the crowds. i've seen the enthusiasm. i feel confident we'll win the house and the senate because i mean, it's the republicans who have been obstructionists.
i inhere i inherited a record deficit. it's democrats who are fiscally responsible. we haven't been able to raise the minimum wage. democrats are the ones that have given the teachers pay raises and we could move forward as of tomorrow with a democratic majority. >> let me ask you about your neighbor, kentucky. it's a different situation in kentucky where the president did go last night to am pacampaign matt bevin who is trying to nationalize the election. the government of kentucky has no power over the impeachment inquiry whatsoever, is bringing up impeachment. what does it tell you that a republican there might be able to save his seat by nationalizing the election on the issue of impeachment? >> i look at it the other way. here is kentucky as red a state as you can have in the united states of america, and today we're basically tied in that race for governor. what does that tell you? in kentucky a red, red state in mississippi, a red, red state,
our democratic nominee for governor is basically tied. this is a state that they should be running away with. you look at trump in kentucky, mississippi, i mean, huge wins for him, and yet for these governors races today, these races are basically tied. i think this is a very ominous day for trump. i think he's going to take a beating at the polls. as i say, this will be the first time since 1993, think of that, bill clinton's first year that the democrats have taken total control, and the reason is because democrats produce on those issues. >> we've got about 30 seconds left, and i do want to ask one question about the presidential election. elizabeth warren who did come out with a plan to pay for her medicare for all policies, how do you think it's playing? and as you see the focus go on elizabeth warren, what do you see the other candidates doing? >> listen, the other candidates are going obviously as it relates to the cost of medicare for all.
i've been on your show many times. i think the debate is how do we get those missing individuals in america to get them the health coverage. how do we reduce prescription drug prices? that should be the debate that the democratic candidates are having for president. i always say when they get in this medicare for all debate, it's mind numbing for the public. talk to the american voters about what they deal with and experience every day, high prescription drug costs. i'm a little concerned about the debate where it's going. i want the democrats to focus on the issues that matter to them each and every cday and not get into these big shiny objects up here, which i think are confusing voters. we win on the issue of health care. president obama got us tens of millions more people coverage in this country, let's build on that. let's not take apart what president obama was able to accomplish. let's build it. i think that should be the debate, and the good news is this will be a debate going forward. >> governor terry mckoloff, we know you have a big night ahead of you. we are following breaking
news right now out of mexico. there's a heinous murder mystery this morning. nine members of an american family, mothers and their children have been killed. "new day" continues right now. >> explosive comments under oath by former ambassador to ukraine and a former top aide to the secretary of state. >> both of them basically said that rudy giuliani was running foreign policy in the ukraine. >> the details show you our own state department became a cesspool. >> several years of the donald trump presidency, our policies are more supportive of the ukraine and tougher on russia. >> voters will be casting ballots in races that give us a sense of where things stand heading into next year. >> the people of kentucky will vote to reelect your terrific republican governor. >> virginia's going to be a battleground, if democrats take over, it gives them total control. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. welcome to our viewers in
the united states and all around the world. this is "new day," and it is a big day. republicans, they demanded transparency in the impeachment inquiry, and that's exactly what they are getting. democrats about to release new transcripts of testimony from two key witnesses in the impeachment inquiry, former special envoy to ukraine kurt volker and u.s. ambassador to the eu gordon sondland. text messages place both men along with rudy giuliani at the center of the trump administration's efforts to get ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into the bidens. on monday investigators released the transcript of testimony from former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch and michael mckinley, he was that former top aide to secretary of state mike pompeo. yovanovitch told investgators she was the target of a shadow campaign by rudy giuliani to get her fired because she was standing in the way of the president's plan to get dirt on the bidens. she also testified she was warned to, quote, watch her back and that