thank you for joining us. tonight, the president's former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., ni nikki hailey is pulling the curtain back on conversations she had at the white house. she reveals two of president's advisers tried to recruit her to quote save the country by undermining the presidet. these were not low level staffers. we are talking about rex tillerson and the former white house chief of staff, john kelly. according to excerpts, she

writes they confided in me this when they resisted the president, they weren't being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country. the president didn't know what he was doing. >> it absolutely happened. and instead of saying that to me, they should have been b saying that to the president. not asking me to join them on their side bar plan. it should have been go tell the president what your differences are and quit if you don't like what he's doing but to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing. and it goes against the constitution and it goes against what the american people want. it was offensive. f. >> also writes that tillerson told her people would die if president trump was left unchecked. tillerson did not give a comment to the post and kelly -- providing the president quote with the best and most open leader and ethical staff across the government so he could make the decision, guilty as chargd.d

cnn has reached out for comment, this is all pointing to a huge week. in offices and in restaurants to -- clinton impeachment, this is history. this is when you need to tune in more than ever. these hearings in the run up to a likely house vote on impeachment are a test for the country and what americans believe in. let's get straight to anchor of reliable sources. joe lock heart hart and doug high and this isn't an anonymous source saying the country needs to be saved, but two of his former top officials, the secretary of state, the white house chief of staff, what should republicans who have been

so loyal to this president take away from this? >> well, i think that the challenge is there's going to be maybe what republicans should do and what republicans will do which is what we've seen over the past couple of years play out. there's been a lot of serious questions raised. not just in nikki hailey's book, but throughout the past couple of years and we've seen some of what kelly and tillerson were thinking about play out in the situation with turkey and syria. where lives have been lost and troubling policy has been inacted. but ultimately if you look at the quote from general kelly, i think joe would agree when you work on statements, umt to have a very strong statement but sometimes you don't say now and that's a very strong statement that doesn't say no. >> kelly said something similar in fact along those lines when he insinuated that left to he has his own devices, the president will commit impeachable acts, listen to what he says he told the president as he was leaving office. >> we were still in the process of trying to find someone to take my place.

i said whatever you do, don't hire a yes man. someone that's going to tell you, won't tell you the truth. don't do that. because if you do, i believe you'll be itch peampeached. >> we have tillerson gone, kelly, mattis, who in the white house is telling the president no? >> no one. that's all of the people, all of the traditional guardrails are gone and he did exactly what general kelly told him not to do. he's hired someone who just goes out and implements his policy. that's actually ironically what may get him in the most trouble which is if mick mulvaney, it does testify under this whole court system, he said from the podium in the white house briefing room that what he did was at the direction of the president. he didn't try to take the responsibility himself, didn't try to insulate the president. he said i did what the president

told me to do and that goes contrary to what i think kelly was warning. >> isn't this what unanimous was warning about a whole year ago in 2018 with that op sed writing back in september, we believe our first duty is to this country and the president continues to act in manner that is detrimental to the health of our public. that's why many have vowed today what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while tlarting his impulse ls until he's out of office. >> and anonymous has this book length version of the op-ed that's going to drop in about a week. it's number one on a.m.son which tells you there's a lot of interest in whatever this person wants to say. i know they're being criticized for hiding, but then again, we don't know what position this person is in and why they may feel they need to be anonymous, so let's wait to see what it says in the book. but the picture being painted all the colors are the same. whether it's a description from nikki hailey about what was happening with john kelly.

whether it's anonymous accounts from this author from people who have left the administration. they're all described in a very consistent story and for republicans who continue to say that it's all fake news, people see right through that. as you said, that's why wednesday is a test for the country. it's the beginning of a test for the country because all of these facts have been lining up for the better part of three years. >> i think a lot of what we've seen what she's talking about we've seen before but let's not forget this book is a political document for nikki haileyly she had a decision to make. she was one of the people who defied donald trump while she was the u.n. secretary, on charlottesville for one where she made a strong statement, but shemts to be president. she wants to be the candidate in '24. she might want to be the vp candidate and i think she's sorely disappointed the republican never trumpers because she's come out very strongly and created this it's a little bit of political jiu-jitsu of yes, the president's done some things wrong, but i'm not with the

people who have criticized him. i'm a trumper at heart because u that's where the republican party is. >> what a week for a book tour in the midst of impeachment. >> and you reported last night john bolton plans to write a book. i just wonder going back to what we're reading in these excerpts from hailey, if john kelly were chief of staff today instead of mulvaney, do you think the president would be facing impeachment? >> absolutely. the president is his own chief of staff, own communications director and every other role that trashlly would be served by loyal staff to the president. a lot of staff is loyal to the president. but filling out those roles. joe lockhart was the press secretary for bill clinton. it's not really the case with president trump and so the situation he's in, while it is entirely political and i think there are some analogies to the 1997 '98 impeachment move with republicans where republicans

wanted to get bill clinton just like a lot of democrats want to get donald trump, there's a lot of evidence for why democrats may want to do that, but that atmosphere is out there and donald trump acts in his own way and as we've seen with trump supporter, they're seaying if you shoot somebody on 5th avenue, we'll have to ask why. >> do you think john kelly could have prevented the president from pressuring ukraine? >> no. if donald trump wants to pick up the phone and make a call, hooe going to do so. you know, we've talked for years now well if only donald trump puts down his phone and doesn't tweet so much, we know that's not going to happen. >> tweeting more than ever now. more than ever because he's trying to scream more loudly in his own defense. >> let me read a tweet today. the call to the ukrainian president, he still says was perfect and that's in big capital letters. he said read the transcript, which it's interesting he thinks that because he does say in that call do me a favor though, which of course is his own words an evidence that democrats are use part of this inquiry, but then

talks about republicans and writes this message to them. republicans don't be led into the fools trap of saying it was not perfect. but it is not impeachable. no, it's much stronger than that. nothing was done wrong. >> yeah, he's -- i think where the republicans are going to land is what you're beginning to hear, which is the president didn't use the best judgment. we don't think that call he should have made the call that way. but this is certainly not impeachable. and the problem with donald trump is he just can't, he's so thin skinned, he can't take any criticism. in comparing to 1998, president clinton was open to being senntured, but the republicans said that's not enough. we're going to impeach him but trump is unable to not understand that everything he does is perfect and as a politician, that kraets some challenges. >> sounds like he's saying,

guys, get if line. this is the message you should be saying. >> doesn't want anybody to give an inch. you saying clinton willing to give a foot. always saying he has a 95% approval rate, which is a lie, but he's saying that because if they defect, they're the only ones. he wants people to feel lonely without him. >> he knows how to market a message and is good with his words at saying things that people can grab on to. i want to play what we heard from eric sexual well today about how much evidence the house has and i want everyone to listen to the words he chooses to use. >> we have enough evidence from the depositions that we've done to warrant bringing this forward. evidence of an extortion scheme using taxpayer dollars to investigate a foreign opponent. >> because you were a former white house spokesperson, i wonderful rer do you think it would serve democrats well to start using words like extortion

or bribery? >> i think democrats over the last week or so have moved away from quid pro quo. that's a legal term that people don't really understand that doesn't have you know, meaning like extortion and bribery do. and republicans can say oh, there's we know even if there was a quid pro quo, republicans are going to have a lot more trouble saying even if there was extortion and bribery, that's okay. that's why you seen the shift in language and that's what this is. you know, it's not a, this is not a criminal trial where you're saying you violated this statute. it's a political process. where democrats say you extorted a foreign government. you bribe them with the idea of a visit and with $400 million and i think that's a lot more powerful. >> let's think about what we're going to see this week. on television. this is your wheel house. based on what we know in terms of viewership, you think back to some of these other scandals,

iran contra, watergate, the clinton impeach. ment. how important is this week this terms of getting the american people invested in. >> this is the first internet impeachment. when the white house joe was still a text media. most people weren't online yet. there were so smart phones, so this is the first time we're going to have an impeach. prosecco that is clipped and remechanicsed in all of these ways shared on social media. the reality is most people won't watch live. most people will watch clips and then hear iing about it later i the day as it's being digested. i think that's really important. democrats and republicans are going to be trying to control that messaging more and i think that episode so to speak matters a lot. we're talking about basic democracy. but from a television perspective, democrats have to come out strong. for the same reason when we watch netflix or listen iing to podcast, we only choose to keep listening if we're interested in episode one so i hope the

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. it could grow before it gets trimmed down. reaction is pouring in after former new york city mayor michael bloomberg officially filed to run in alabama's democratic primary next year. he's planning to do is same in arkansas before that state's deadline on tuesday. bloomberg's laying the ground work should he decide to run. here's how democrats he'd be running against are responding. >> when people look at the white house and they see this multimillionaire including by the way independents, moderate, republicans and now he's messing up so many things, i don't think they say oh, we need someone richer. i think you have to earn votes and not buy them. >> what we need is a dynamic democracy. not some billionaire who decides he wants to run for president of the united states because he's a billionaire. >> i think that our elections should not be something that are

bought by billionaires. >> i think that mike's expressing concern about this primary field and shouldn't have concern. >> he's a solid guy. i have no problem with him getting in the race. >> okay not exactly a warm reception. mark preston is joining us now from iowa. mark, a lot of the other candidates have attacked bloomberg's billionaire status. should they feel threatened? >> i think they should and for this reason alione. michael bloomberg can write any size check that he wants. he can use that money to run ads as many times as he wants. in fact, he's doing so already. and the criticism you're hearing now are from folks that feel threatened or they feel like they can get some political currency out of attacking bloomberg. so whether or not he's for real about this, who knows. but he's certainly taking steps towards it and if you are in the current field right now, i would be concerned only because michael bloomberg certainly has

a background, he was three terms as a new york mayor, but he also has the money and whether r or not he can win the nomination is irrelevant. really can he cause problems for the other candidates in the field. >> he's known for being a data guy from a fox news poll, 32% of democratic primary voters said they would never vote for him. the same percentage who would consider voting for bloomberg, only 6% said they would vote for him. so bloomberg can't feel good about those numbers, then again though, he was only a hypothetical candidate when that poll was taken. >> not too surprising. if you look at the third of folks who said they would not vote for b michael bloomberg, you go back in history and look at what his political affiliation was. he was once republican then independent, then democrat. so certainly, if you were from the left, if you're supporting warren, bernie sanders, if you are a liberal democrat, someone who's proud of it, talks about it, then you're not going to be a michael bloomberg person. so that makes sense.

but michael bloomberg is a guy who looks at data, he looks at where the numbers are. and clearly, this was something he saw in the numbers he wanteded to float this idea that he was going to run. >> okay speaking of billionaire, you're there in iowa for tonight's cnn town hall with business man tom steyer and a recent quinnipiac poll has him as 3% there. nationally, he's around 1%. this is a guy who's been spending a lot of money on ads as well. what do you think his message will be tonight to try to gain more traction? >> well, tom steyer's interesting because he's somebody who is writing his own checks. he's very much like michael bloomberg but he's not somebody who's going to be deared to the more liberal wing. we're in a state that's very liberal on the democratic side. that's not going to work well for steyer. if you take him and michael bloomberg and put them together, they seem to have similar problems. their problems are is that they

have an incredible checkbook they're able to work off of, yet those are the types of things that's really enflaming the liberal left. those folks writing checks for so $100. he's put a lot of money towards liberal issues and i think you're going to hear a very somber, serious tone from him. he's somebody who's trying to reach out to those biden voters. perhaps the klobuchar voters and try to build a coalition around a more sent ris ideology so that's tom steyer's plan. that's michael bloomberg's plan. certainly that's joe biden's plan. we don't know if any are going to work though. >> thank you, sir. and make sure you tune in tonight at 7:00 p.m. for the cnn town hall with tom steyer from iowa. this week, the stakes rise dramatically as the impeach.

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the impeachment inquiry were a plate play, it would be over and act two would be getting underway. on wednesday, witnesses will be testifying publicly for the first time and this is huge. so r far, all testimony has been in private and it wasn't until recreptly that those transcripts from inside those hearings started being released. that brings us to cross exam with ellie whoes who's here to answer your questions. up until this point, many witnesses we've heard from at least through the transcripts that have been released have testified about what they learned of trump's plans and dealings with ukraine but didn't say he told them directly. one wants to know could the president have a defense zm. >> this week, we saw new defense which is essentially this was the work of people around donald trump but not necessarily donald

trump himself. so let's assess. first of all, it is really hard to square that with the july 25th phone call between trump and zelensky where we see trump making demands to the president of ukraine in his own words. now this week, some of the testimony you talk b about brought us really closer to the inner circle of the west wing. we learned that mulvaney was essentially involved in withholding foreign aid. we learned the white house counsel received one of the complaints that went up through the ranks and john bolton disapproved of what was happening and sounded an alarm. so the question now is will these people testify? we know mulvaney and bolton said no. we are not obeying our subpoenas. house democrats have a tough decision. are they going to fight? i don't think they're going to have enough time in courts. but be clear, all these people can choose to testify if they want. look at taylor. they came forward and testified. by failing to do so, it's

unavoidable. mulvaney, taylor, they're keeping the full truth from coming out. >> the president and his defenders say the whistleblower needs to testify. one viewer wants to know what legal consequences could there be to publicly identifying the whistleblower. >> there are two categories of law potentially in play here. first, civil and administrative penalties. civil law says you can't take personnel action to punish somebody who's come forward with information. it doesn't use the phrase, whistleblower. that means you u can't demote somebody, fire somebody, if they've come forward with information. the penalties here are primarily administrative and financial. but where the real teeth are is on the criminal side. i believe there are criminal statutes here. witness tampering. it's a federal crime to try to intimidate a witness, to try to get them to influence or delay or prevent their testimony. also, it's a crime to retaliate against a witness. to take harmful action against somebody to pay them back for

coming forward with information. now will our justice department take action here? i don't know. bill barr has shown little inclination in doing it, but to me, this can't be about politics. protecting witnesses is core to what we do in our justice system. >> so if the house impeaches and the senate convicts, which is unlikely because of the political playing field we're dealing with, but one viewer wants to know the that happens, can trump appeal in court? >> i think he might try. he's said before i'm going to go to court to stop this impeachment, but if he does, it's a virtual certainly he won't succeed. the constitution gives the senate the sole power to try impeachment. sole power. no mex of the courts makes no mention of any appeal rights. we have a precedent here. the nixon case, not richard nixon, walter nixon, a federal judge in 1989 who was impeached, convicted, removed, repealed then the supreme court said you can't appeal. you have no right oi proceedal

apo appe appeal. first of all, how will the roger stone trial impact what we're seeing on impeachment? similar themes here of people being willing solicit foreign aid. second, will house democrats take up those fights in the courts? the clock is ticking, i don't think they're going to. third, the big question, what will we learn from our live witnesses we're going to hear from bill taylor, george kent -- we have a big question, but the big question is will seeing them live on camera really moou the needle and really change any opinions in the public at large. >> it's going to be a long week. >> fun. >> thank you, make sure you read h column and submit your own questions. latino voters could decide which democrat faces president trump next november. will elizabeth warren be that candidate? hear her pitch to them, next. my cause...

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for weeks, impeach. has be getting all the attention, but on tuesday, immigration. the supreme court will take up a case to determine whether the president's plan to end the daca program is tugal. the fate of 700,000 young migrants known as dreamers hangs in the balance. immigration is also a key issue for the 2020 democrats as they make a pitch to latinos, a crucial voting block. for senator warren, that includes the possibility of suspending deportations. layla santiago has more. >> her cry comes with her story. her husband, she says, still detained by i.c.e. the translator at the town hall, she asks senator warren -- >> will you pass a moratorium on limitations. >> i am open to suspending deportations, particularly as a way to push congress for

comprehensive immigration reform. >> that's new for warren. not included in her immigration plan. after the town hall, we asked -- >> leaning toward one way or another, a moratorium on deportations given that yesterday, senator sanders' plan includes that. >> the way i would describe it is i should not be spending its resources deporting people who pose no threat to us. >> so is that a yes? >> it's a don't spend your resources on our neighbors and friends. >> and warren made her case, three daughters of immigrants sat in the front row, now eligible to society. >> in 2020, i'm looking for a candidate that will not only show their support for immigrants like me who have college degrees, who are fluent in english, who have upward mobile ity, i'm looking for a candidate who will support by parents, fight for people like my parents.

>> barbara is part of a fast growing piece of the potential electorate. hispanics are projected to make up more than 13% of eligible voters including 20 according to the pea research center. she says focusing on immigration is not enough to win her vote. >> health care is up there, but now after a -- we see latinos actually really r worried about discrimination against latinos and immigrants. >> search joe garcia rios is an expert on latino studies. they'll be popular in study lice floribut shouldn't all be courte same way. are you doing anything different for the latino voters? >> i think showing up is critical and i also think talking about what would touch their lives is krcritical. and part of that is about immigration. but it's also about education.

>> as 2020 candidates figure out the best way to reach the latino community, plans, town halls, tweets, insist candidates must understand the diversity within the latino community. >> that was layla santiago. bolivia's president has resigned. i'll have the latest details and why this matters next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ don't get mad. get e*trade, dawg.

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going the take power. it appears it's going to be the president of the senate, but the situation is very, very unstable and bolivia's not necessarily a country ma makes e headlines in the united states often but it is very important for two reasons. number one, the government of morales was socialist and they were happier to negotiate with countries like china. and way too happy sometimes to rail against the united states. reason number two, they have some of the largest deposits of lithium in the world. now what happened to the last three weeks? they had an election on october 20th. that a vast portion of the electorate considered fraudulent. they went to the streets. there was a lot of violence. and in the end, after three weeks, the commander in chief of the armed forces and the nation director of police invited very diplomatically, but very firmly, the president to resign and just

a few hours ago or less i should say a little over an hour ago, president morales resigned. now it is a question as to what happens now in terms of doing a new election, who can participate in that election and who effective lly holds power n in bolivia, but just like you said at the beginning, morales is no longer the president of bolivia. >> talk to us more about what this could mean now for the stability in south america. how important is bolivia to trade as you mentioned and security in that part of the world? >> well, morales used to to be r part of an axis of leftist leaders who as i said before rail eed against the united states. bolivia, maduro -- in brazil who was just freed from jail, so the balance of power between the left and the right is at stake here. argentina's right wing president just lost the election and so it depends on what happens next in bolivia. to see what's going to end up

happening to the region as a whole, but it is very interesting to me how what happened today has been interpret ed in different terms by different countries. venezuela calls it a -- while on the other side of the political spectrum say that democracy is about to return to bolivia. >> okay, thank you for that reporting. they used to be a common site along south africa's coast, but the common great white shark has disappear ed this year, but why? we'll take a look. forget about vacuuming for months.

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when it comes to pregame displays, it's going to be hard to beat this one. this is in argentina where a sports club arranged for a hologram of a flaming lion to prowl the roof of their new stadium. that's pretty impressive technology right there. great white sharks, the massive corn voers who have inspired books, movies and nightmares are mysteriously disappear iing from one of thei most famous hundreding grounds. we go off the coast of cape town south africa. >> the back of the boat. we've come to dive with an >> it's probably the world's most famous location for seeing

great white sharks. >> on the front! >> there he is. there he is. >> we see plenty of sharks. >> that was incredible. it came right after us and checked us out. >> right there, right there, right there! >> but no great whites. these sharks are skcavengers. in 2019 the great whites of capetown have vanished. >> for me the loss of the great white sharks is losing part of my soul. this is an animal that's shaped my life. it's given my some of the greatest highs of my life. >> chris fellows, the photographer who put these sharks on the map, is forcing himself to speak in the past tense. >> the first time you saw this, what was it like?

>> it was unbelievable. everybody is fascinated by great white sharks, but flying great white sharks. to see this super predator taking to the air is fantastic. >> on the cliffs above, shark spotters used to take these sightings for granted. this year they've recorded zero great whites, not a single one. >> what if they don't come back? >> we're going to have to wait. >> fishermen say there are more seals now competing for the catch. >> the impact of losie ining an predator for the marine environment is going to be huge. >> the zero sightings is alarming but not surprising. she predicted the collapse years ago. in 2012 by studying genetics, she found that the population was smaller and more vulnerable than anyone imaged. >> what were your reaction to the population of great whites

in south africa? >> concern mostly, but also shock. i mean, we're expecting to find 1,000 or more individuals around here. >> overfishing, shark poaching and the weak gene pool have all contributed. >> people don't like to listen to sad stories and it is difficult to realize that humans could have had such an impact on such a prehistorical iconic predator. >> unless we really step up our efforts to conservative what we have left, south africa's once bou bou bountiful shores will be lost. new stunning claims this evening from former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley. details on how some of the president's top cabinet members

including his former chief of staff allegedly tried to recruit her to work around the president.

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swinging might seem like an outdated term from the '70s but even today millions of americans have dabbled in what's called the lifestyle. lisa ling attends the largest swinger party in the country. here's a preview. >> okay.

so tonight is the night that i will be going into the play room. and i'm extremely nervous about it. as it turns out, you can't wear just anything to the play room. to keep up an intimate vibe, there's a strict ban on street clothes. only baa jpajamas, underwear or. i decided to recruit my mom friend jackie. will you hold my hand for this? >> yeah. >> i've been trying to kind of prepare myself. >> i think you're going to be surprised. i think it will be good. at first i thought maybe i was intruding or looking at something i wasn't supposed to, so i had to kind of give myself permission just to go ahead and watch. >> curious? the new episode of "this is life" airs tonight at 10 eastern and pacific here on cnn. he's one of the president's fiercest defenders but senator lindsey graham wasn't always so keen to defend trump.

>> president trump and lindsey graham pretty much on the same page, but when graham said he's not reading the pages of impeachment transcripts -- >> the whole process is a joke. >> the jokes flew. it was compared to sticking fingers in your ears, especially since last month the senator said -- >> if you could show me that, you know, trump actually was engaging in a quid pro quo outside the phone call, that would be very disturbing. >> hard to be disturbed if you won't read the transcripts. >> i would just summarize the transcripts in three little words, okay? lindsey, don't look away, lindsey. don't look away. lindsey! don't look away. lindsey! >> lindsey graham these dayed was portrayed as off the rails.

>> they seemed to be incapable of performing a quid pro quo. >> the he's too stupid defense. >> an anti-trump pac put up a billboard in south carolina showcasing something graham once said about trump. >> i think he's a kook. i think he's unfit for office. he's a race baiting, company xenophobic religious bigot. >> he said i don't have your phone number and he said there's a reason for that. >> the reason being candidate trump gave out graham's number. >> let's try it. 202- >> graham responded with a cell phone destroying video. ♪ >> these days they often talk on the phone and now graham has joined trump in his reluctance to read. the president wouldn't like reading those old quotes. >> you know how you make america

great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. ♪ hello. i'm anna cabrera in new york. you're live in the cnn newsroom. the president's former ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley just revealed details of an offensive side-bar plan to undermine the president while she was at her post. she describes how she was approached by former secretary of state rex tillerson and former white house chief of staff john kelly. she writes, kelly and tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president, they weren't being insubordinate. they were trying to save the country.