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>> they have tried out a lot of different messages and strat strategies, but it's her lack of sticking to issues that has put her where she is today. >> for her, it's do or die iowa. we'll see. a couple weeks left. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." this is cnn breaking news. hello, this is a special edition of "cnn right now." breaking news, police are investigating a terrorist incident at london bridge where a number of people were stabbed. we want to warn you that the video you're about to see is graphic. members of the public tackled the man to the ground as police moved people away, shots ring out.
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the suspect died at the scene. nick paton walsh is there for us. nick, why is this being treated as a terror incident? >> we don't know the motivation of this man and police say much about this is still unclear. particularly that in itself. but this particular assailant, you saw him in that graphic video on the ground there, he was said by police to be wearing a hoax device. suspicious vest to some degree. possibly a suicide vest. that will give you some indication as to the kind of motivation behind this. he was also, we understand, carrying a knife, too, and some of the video shows the public throwing themselves at him. one of them taking away a knife from the scene of the attack. police say they were called to a premises. we don't know exactly where that was. that appears to be where this attack began. around about 2:00 today. then this incident occurred on london bridge. at which point, you see police
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officers pulling away a member of the public described by london's mayor sadiq khan being the best of humanity, attacking this assailant, trying to get control of him. they pull 9 publthe public awayr seeing this suspicious hoax device on the assailant and the police take the unavoidable decision to shoot this particular attacker. he's said to have died at the scene. after that, of course, a lockdown comes into effect here in central london. one of the busiest parts, so close to the financial center here as well. people towards the end of their friday lunch time perhaps thinking about going home early. scenes of panic, fear, gunshots never heard in a part of london like this hardly. stabbing crimes part of gaung cu gang culture, but this caused deep shock at this part of the city. we've seen large numbers of armed police coming and going,
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and they're ensuring there's no residual threat around here. i'm a good two blocks away from where the attack was, the concern being this man may not have acted alone. it appears according to boris johnson that the incident is over. for the last few hours they've been referring to this as an ongoing situation. they seem to have it more under control. we hear from station staff that key parts of the beyond ground, the metro facility here may reopen soon. it seems like they have a handle on this particular incident. the assailant is dead. several people stabbed. some seriously injured. the key question now is who was this man, what was his motivation, where did he initially begin his attack at about 2:00 today, and what does this mean in terms of the enduring terror threat towards london. a city so frequently targeted in the past years. >> a lot more questions to answer. nick paton walsh, thank you. earlier i spoke to one witness standing near the scene and captured the moment a suspect
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was apprehended. we will not show you the moment that suspect was shot by police, but you also see there's a man who takes a knife from the scene, we decided to blur that part of the video because we don't know who that man is or his role. watch this. >> when i realized something was happening, i kind of looked up from my phone, and there was -- looked like members of the public were fighting with a man that was -- it looked like he was trying to be pinned down on to the pavement, the left-hand side of the pavement on london bridge. at that moment, i kind of saw, like, it looked like a shine of light come across from the man on the floor. i realized quickly it was a knife. the sun was shining on the knife. it was a relatively large knife. at that point, i realized it was something quite serious going on there. and very quickly, it was at
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least one member of the public. and then police went over with some guns, and it ended with the man being shot. >> it was your understanding as you were recording it that it was a police officer who fired that shot? >> yes. definitely, yeah. >> how quickly did police respond to this incident? >> within seconds. it was very, very fast. >> that was before you started recording? >> the police weren't there when i first started recording, but i think it was maybe 20 seconds later. so this was all under a minute, i would say. they were very quick and very swift. thank goodness for the police in london. >> after you stopped recording, then what happened? >> we were kind of locked on the bus for a little bit. and from that moment then we
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were -- everybody was kind of wondering what was happening. we didn't know if there were explosives or things like this, so we went to the back of the bus to get as far away as possible. then we heard the police shouting at us and people more or less saying run, so the driver opened the doors and we ran as quickly as we could. >> joining us now is james galliano. james, we still don't know the motive. we know someone was shot and killed. everyone is still on lockdown. are police worried about another potential attack? >> that's got to be the number one concern. the first thing is police at first treated this like it was a terror attack. that's what you got to do in the post-9/11 world. you assume the worst and assume terrorism until proven otherwise. when the police gave a quick press statement, they said they declared this a terror attack. we don't know what kind of
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terror group this was, if it was a group or lone offender. number one priority right now, determining were there any accomplices to this. that doesn't just mean someone working directly with this attacker, but whether or not this attacker was inspired or directed by some other type of extremist group. >> as far as the investigation, what needs to happen before anything can be reopened? >> first of all, london bridge. the ira bombed it in 1992. you and i sat on set one weekend together, june 3, 2017 there was a terror attack that had marked similarities to this one. it was a vehicle attack, this one doesn't appear to have been a vehicle attack, but a knife was used, an edged weapon and a hoax bomb vest, the suicide bomb vest. right now authority also have to keep significant portion of that bridge closed. they'll have to do everything they can to harvest as much forensic evidence as they can. and then this is the 21st
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century, they're going to be mining social media. they'll be looking for whatever digital imprint or digital exhaust this attacker might have left behind. >> london officials have declared this a terrorist incident. i want to be careful not to jump to conclusions before we know more, but does this have the markings of any specific group? >> it does. i heard some terrorism experts talk about this. this appears to be the type of extremist similar in nature to the one that happened a couple months ago in june of 2017. that was an attack by isis. now, no terror group has come out and claimed responsibility for this. and for police, while we assume terrorism, meaning there was some political goal or aim that was associated with the violence or the intimidation or the threats of saying, we always have to be cautious to follow the evidence where it takes us. i assume once police have more information on this, they'll be releasing it fairly soon. the >> as always, james gagliano,
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you're great to have on with all of your expertise and insights. thank you. >> thank you. still to come, will the white house show up to a consequential impeachment hearing? the clock is ticking. and the taliban undermines president trump's surprise revelation that peace talks have restarted. and one of kamala harris's campaign aides writes a scathing resignation letter that describes a campaign imploding. so t-mobile is giving you an iphone 11 on us for each new line of unlimited. for yourself, or up to a family of four. keep your family connected, and hurry into t-mobile today, to get up to four iphone 11's on us. only at t-mobile.
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it's a big week ahead for president trump and the impeachment inquiry. it started with closed door testimony and then the public testimony, and now the house judiciary committee buttons it up with hearings of their own as they try to nail down the articles of imbeach.. the president has been invited to send their own attorneys. when the hearing starts the president will be out of the country, far away from washington. he's heading to england where he'll have to explain to european allies why the u.s. is cutting money for nato. it is an important week in this
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possible impeachment of president trump. what are you hearing? >> next week will be a significant week because it heralds the next phase of this impeachment inquiry. we're expecting the house intelligence committee to submit its report, outlining the central allegations against president trump in this ukraine scandal. and that will key up the first hearing from the house judiciary committee that will come on wednesday. it will be the first phase of the next phase of the impeachment inquiry where the house judiciary committee could begin drawing up articles of impeachment. that's the committee responsible for doing that. it will start this next series of weeks durings will have to d whether they will move forward with impeaching president trump. for now that could happen by christmas. we know that time lime shifted several times, we could get an answer ton whether that happens by christmas time. the main question is whether or not to participate in the house
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judiciary committee hearings. so far the house judiciary committee has invited the house to have an attorney present for that first hearing on wednesday. the white house so far has not made a final decision. as of now, they are leaning against that. that is despite the white house's central complaint that the process has been biased against them and they have not o participate in those hearings s committee prepares to get down to the details of impeachment, we have to wonder what will that final bill look like? some are advocating for narrow articles of impeachment, zeroing in on the ukraine scandal. my next guest is going the other way. sophia nelson is a former republican council for the house oversight committee during the clinton impeachment. it's good to have you here. some are advocating for narrow articles of impeachment, you think nar rrowing the articles would be short-sighted. why? >> two things. i think that this is bigger than
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ukraine. it started with the mueller report, which i think that people thought, okay, that was over. then ukraine just came out of nowhere. y you're looking at the standard fof a president. i think there's an abuse of pow power, there's obstruction of justice. you have a number of places to go with this that a broader than ukraine. ukraine is more narrow. i think the breaches and the things that this president has done are a lot bigger than just ukraine. >> you mentioned abuse of power, obstruction of justice, any other articles you would recommend? >> i think emoluments violati s violations. the fact that the secret service and other federal agencies had to spend millions of dollars since this presidency began at trump properties to protect the president and those are the places he goes, the emoluments
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violation is huge. while the president does enjoy protections under executive privilege, executive immunity, i think judge jackson slapped that down this past week saying it's not an absolute immunity under article ii as the president suggests he has as president. >> what do you say to critics who would argue your articles are too broad including speaker pelosi and adam schiff who want to keep it narrow? >> i'm not sure they do want to keep it narrow. if you just focus on the ukraine issue of obstruction of justice or inviting a foreign power to get involved in our elections, i think that arguments will be what you saw from the republicans and the same in the senate which is okay, maybe the call wasn't perfect, maybe it wasn't great, but he had no intent to really do anything that was illegal or an abuse of his office. i think it will be harder for them to prove. the republicans didn't budge on
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this. i was surprised. i thought some of the witnesses were come peelipelling and prob for the president, but i don't expect this to be different once this goes to the senate. i would go broader that sets a future standard for presidents that can be problematic if we don't define what a president can do and what he cannot do. that's what this impeachment needs to be about. >> quid pro quo is straightforward veshs versus th mueller stuff and beyond. if you expand the articles beyond ukraine, don't you risk muddying the waterers and maybe losing the 50% support there is from the public? >> i think quid pro quo is clear for you and i in washington, but not for people in iowa, texas, oth or other places in the country. that's inside the beltway language. people can relate to the president abusing his power of the office in any number of ways that i listed for you that i
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think regular people can relate to. is that what we want a president do in the future? not just this president but what about going forward. my position has not changed. if you can't impeach this president you can never impeach any president in my opinion going forward. it's never going to get, i think, this serious in terms of a number of violations. unless there's a president waiting out there that we really don't want to learn about. >> sophia, happy friday. happy to have you with us. >> you, too. new drama in the 2020 race. one of kamala harris's campaign aides resigning with a scathing letter about the campaign. hear what she reveals. and back to the breaking news, a number of people stabbed in what london officials are calling a terror incident. we'll go back live. stay with us. you're watching cnn. there's a company that's talked to even more real people
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to the campaign trail now, the last time that kamala harris polled in the double digits was back in june. after that first debate. she was at 17%. right now, however, not so much. you can see biden is still on
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top but harris plum totmeted to. what happened between june and november? alex burns has some insight into that. his latest article is entitled "how kamala harris's campaign unvau unrav unravelled." you spoke to 50 former and current campaign standards, you write that harris's decline has not really been a surprise. almost seemed predictable. explain. >> so, two of my colleagues and i spoke to dozens of people who are close to the campaign, formerly worked in the campaign, still work in the campaign, contributed money to the campaign, the picture we came away with was the harris campaign as an organization that is at war with itself. it is divided into feuding camps, even inside the groups of kamala harris loyalists, people who are based out in california versus the campaign office in baltimore, people related to her who are in senior positions of
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the campaign versus people who joined much later and who simply at almost every level do not see eye to eye about the campaign's message and strategy. at the heart of this, most of the people in or close to her inner circle would agree, at the center of this is a candidate who has never really defined a clear and consistent message for why she's in this race. why she wants to be the president. >> you write about what some have described as flawed decisions. walk us through what were those flawed decisions. >> earl live on the campaign made a set of big strategic bets on some of the later states in the primary calendar, south carolina and nevada, downplay iowa and new hampshire. that turned out to be a significant mistake. they wanted to develop a direct feud with joe biden early, as you saw in that first debate. they were not able to convert a big clash with joe biden on the debate stage into sort of sustained growth for harris in the primary. there was a debate and there continues to be a debate inside
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her campaign about how to deal with her record as a prosecutor in san francisco and as attorney general in california. warring factions split between senator harris's sister and consultants who worked with her in california about whether to lean in to her record as a district attorney and law enforcement official or make some apologies for it and make ideological and policy concessions to the left wing of the democratic party. you add it up, you have a campaign that month by month or at least season by season has been changing message, changing strategy, and in a campaign of this scale, that kind of inconsistency is rarely a blueprint for success. >> finally, there was a final straw for an important position inside her campaign. the state operations director writing a resignation letter which you got your hands on. let me read part of it. this is my third presidential campaign. i have never seen an organization treat its staff so poorly. she goes on to say it's
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unacceptable with less than 90 days until iowa we still do not have a real plan to win. she says the treatment of staff specifically was the final straw for her. what kind of treatment is she referring to? >> that's the final straw for a lot of people. when you got to the end of october, early november, the campaign started letting people go in large numbers. essentially wiping out their operations in states like new hampshire to focus on iowa. there was a meeting at the beginning of november with her campaign manager and a whole bunch of folks on the staff where he was asked repeatedly to sort of walk through the strategic implications of these firings and this sort of reorientation of resources and how it positions them to win. there were not satisfactory answers forthcoming in that meeting. so people do feel -- people still inside the campaign and left the campaign felt like they were dealt with capriciously, and by never defining a clear
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plan for winning in those early states, the campaign kind of wreaked havoc on a lot of peoples lives. people who picked up and moved to these states or worked for a candidate this they believed in. >> we'll see where this goes. alex burns, thank you very much. i recommend everybody read your piece in the "new york times." so much more insight that we couldn't cover in that short conversation. thanks. back to our breaking news out of london, a man stabbing several people near london bridge before being shot dead by police. official there's calling it terror related. and the taliban undermines president trump's surprise revelation that peace talks have restarted. hey there people eligible for medicare.
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whew! call unitedhealthcare today and ask for this free decision guide. let's return to breaking news. police are investigating a terrorist incident at london bridge near the financial district where a number of people were stabbed. the video you are about to see is graphic. you see a cluster of people on the bridge. they're surrounding a man, assumed to be the suspect on the ground. police are yelling move, move to get the public out of the way. from here, we'll let the video play out. >> get back! get back!
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get back! [ gunshots ] the suspect died at the scene. nina dos santos is at the scene for us. what is the situation where you are now? >> we're 4 1/2 hours after this incident occurred at london bridge. i'm standing on the south side of the river thames, about 200 meters behind me is the start of london bridge, and it was this end of the bridge where that man was shot dead. as you can see, they just reopened the security cordons in the last five minutes or so. people finally managing to make their way back closer towards the river thames, also into the big thoroughfare that is london bridge station, which has many, many hundreds of thousands of commuters that pass through its doors every single day. that station has been under lockdown for about four hours, it's finally reopened. a lot of people in the office
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buildings here as well witnessed things firsthand. throughout the course of the afternoon i've been speaking to various eyewitnesss who have been saying the moment they realized that it was gunshots, there was sheer panic and people being evacuated from the buildings coming down the street, that included mothers with young children who were out christmas shopping, tourists, and also as i was saying before people who just were getting on with their day-to-day lives try doing black friday shopping or otherwise on their lunch break from work. what's the latest that we know? the metropolitan police gave a statement about two hours ago saying that they're treating this as a terrorist related incident. they're weeping inkeeping an o to motivation, but saying he was essentially targeted and shot dead by two london police officers when they realized that he was wearing what appears to have been a hoax suicide vest. in that video you saw two brave m members of the public tackle
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this individual before a number of people sustained serious knife wounds as a result of this situation. we don't know what condition they're in as of yet. >> okay. still a lot of questions, especially the motive and the condition of those victims. thank you very much, nina dos santos. the taliban today is undermining president trump's surprise announcement that peace talks have been restarted. what the white house is saying about all this. and lindsey graham once called joe biden the nicest guy in politics. now he wants him investigated. what's behind the change of heart? the flexibility to handle whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said... i got this. usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it - easy. she can even pick her payment plan so it's easy on her budget and her life. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa
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president trump is back from afghanistan where he touted american progress against the taliban and says the group now badly wants to make a deal. >> the taliban wants to make a deal. we'll see if they want to make a deal. they didn't want to do a cease-fire. now they do want to do a cease-fire. >> then this morning the taliban responded to cnn saying "our
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policy regarding peace talks is the same as it was, if america wants talks would resume from the point where they stopped." the white house is now trying to clarify things. they say there's been sporadic contact with the taliban and that they're in the process of restarting talks here. do you think the president got ahead of himself? >> this wouldn't be the first time that president trump was overly optimistic about getting a deal with the taliban. having worked on these negotiations, oftentime there's a oftentimes there's talks about restarting talks and there's discussions which the taliban and u.s. negotiators have had since last weekend about launching official talks and official channels which would be led by the ambassador halil if the talks restart. so president trump was
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expressing optimism about talks restarting, but he would benefit himself and our team by consulting with them about the state of the talks and not getting too far ahead of his skis. >> as far as the troops on the ground and the numbers left there, the president talked about bringing more home. but also says that that would not necessarily happen until there's a deal made with the taliban. can the u.s. safely bring all u.s. troops home if there is a deal made with the taliban? >> troops are a trump card in these negotiations. the taliban wants to see a u.s. withdrawal and we are asking the taliban to renounce terrorism as part of the agreement. there's an inconvenient truth. the united states has already started drawing down troop presence in afghanistan just over the last year. we've been rotating troops out and not replacing them. so the taliban does know that while we still have a significant troop presence we have already started diminishing leverage in the negotiations. so we are not in the same position as we were in september when we were looking at an
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agreement with the taliban because we have less troops and also because the taliban knows that president trump is heading into an election year, he campaigned on bringing these troops out. so from that perspective i don't think we have the same balance of power in these negotiations as we did just a few months ago. >> the president will head to the nato summit next week. and it comes on the heels of this announcement that the u.s. is going to cut back on the funds and the money spent for nato. what do you see is the impact going into these meetings? will that complicate things? >> it certainly will. what will complicate it more is the idea which the taliban knows, nato knows, north korea knows, that president trump is willing to cut and run from conflicts like in syria or from commitments with nato. it is worth noting that the commitment that we are diminishing with nato is for their operational budget. we give money directly to nato for operational purchas purpose
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spend an amount of gdp on defense spending. any partner, whether an ally or enemy knows president trump makes these really spontaneous decisions, often against the advice of his security professionals, lead negotiators, and that's the reality for any discussion that president trump will enter into. >> thank you sam vinograd. sad news out of mexico. a famous american climber died after a tragic accident. we'll explain what happened and a pattern develops of trump officials saying he is the chosen one sent by god. we'll discuss. 448,134 to be exact. they answered 410 questions in 8 categories about vehicle quality. and when they were done, chevy earned more j.d. power quality awards across cars, trucks and suvs than any other brand over the last four years. so on behalf of chevrolet, i want to say "thank you, real people."
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one of the world's most acclaimed rock climbers brad gobrite hat ds died while climb a popular cliff in mexico. rescuers retrieved his body wednesday and his partner for injuries. the climbers were doing a short rappel when their rock stuck causing them to fall. his partner crashed into a bush and survived but gobrite fell past him and died. sad news. what's not to like? how about -- the nicest man in politics? those were the words senator lindsey graham used to describe
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former vice president joe biden. this, at one time. now the senate judiciary chairman is asking the state department for documents related to biden and his son and their dealings in ukraine. it wasn't too long ago graham had a very different opinion. >> if you can't admire joe biden as a person then probably you've got a problem. you need to do some self-evaluation, because what's not to like? here's what i can tell you. that life can change just like that. don't take it for granted. don't take relationships for granted. i called him after bo died. he basically said, well, bo was my soul. talked for a long time. he came to my ceremony, and said some of the most incredibly heartfelt things that anybody could ever say to me, and he's the nicest person i think i've ever met in politics.
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>> joining us now is former congressman charlie dent. congressman, what's your reaction when you hear graham's sentiment towards biden then compared to what we're seeing now? >> well, i think what's happened is lindsey graham is clearly focused on his primary election in south carolina. simple as that. i don't think there's any other explanation, and one can make an argument that hunter biden's relationship certainly doesn't past the smell test. nobody is suggesting it was illegal or criminal, maybe ought to look at it but just speaks to lindsey graham is very desperate about the primary in south carolina. no other explanation. >> interesting. at the time he was saying those words was in another election campaign as he was hoping to be the 2016 republican presidential candidate. i had a chance to interview that reporter with graham that day. here's what he said. >> and so lindsey graham end of
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the day i think decided, well, i can either continue to do this kind of one-man show that no one seems to be paying much attention to, or i can be relevant. i think that was the word he used in that profile in the "new york times." end of the day decided to be relevant and that was more important than saying what he actually believes. >> not sure if it's the same thing of what you've been saying. this idea of graham trying to stay relevant. or is it? >> well, certainly i think he does want to stay relevant but unfair to suggest lindsey graham is the only republican who had made very harsh statements about donald trump as a candidate. marco rubio, nikki haley, ted cruz -- i can go down a long list of people who are somewhat supportive of this president. secretary of state mike pompeo
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all spoke this way. the question, did they mean what they said then or what they say now? that's what this is about. lindsey graham is one of a long list of people. >> do you think he meant what he said then? >> i think they and i think a lot of those other folks meant what they said, too, but as you suggested earlier on, i think relevance matters to somebody to be in the game. i had been critical as the president then as a candidate and didn't say things nearly as frank as they did and i meant what i said and haven't changed my opinion. others have. many like to be close to pow around itpower and it's important. >> you decided you're not in the political realm at the moment. decided to leave. listen to what michael bloomberg's said. >> 31 congress seats in the country that are swing
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districts. mike bloomberg spernt an enormous amount of money, time and leadership to focus on the election the. 15 elected where women. if you're in one of those districts today and a moderate member of congress almost all would tell you today these impeachment hearings are tlertenning their re-election. think about that. those are the sdictdistricts, t tilt the presidential election. these proceedings are making the president's re-election more likely, not less likely. >> do you think the impeachment proceedings are helping trump in 2020? >> ana, i think the politics of impeachment are a bit unclear. nobody is quite sure how this will play. certainly those house democrats in those swing seats are exposed to some real risk. it's not clear how much. some more than others. the congressman from south carolina and utah and oklahoma, for example, i'm sure are at much greater risk than others who are in margin's districts.
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by the same token i would argue senate republicans from swing states, maine, south carolina, also at great risk during this whole impeachment process. this cuts both ways. >> some trump supporters call the president the chosen one sent by god, we've heard, including secretary of energy rick perry. listen. >> i said, mr. president, i know people say, you said you were the chosen one. and i said, you were. >> congressman, do you think this is one reason many conservatives stand by trump? >> well, you know, i find it absolutely head slapping people could be so swayed by demagoguery that they could actually almost, you know, worship this man as if he were some kind of a god. i mean, whatever happened to a healthy skepticism about politicians? i mean, this is just the most
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absurd thing i've ever heard. ridiculous. an insult to the actual chosen one, whoever that may be, that we would suggest that donald trump is the chosen one. this is where i think people have to really get about their -- get their senses back and be skeptical of politician. not cynical. somewhat skeptical. this is absurd people would say this. >> congressman charlie dent. two for two. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. that's it for me. "newsroom" with mike nobles starts next. thank you so much for being here. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and good afternoon. i'm ryan nobles in today for brooke baldwin in a special edition of "newsroom." and we're following breaking news out of london. what police are calling a
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