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good evening. i'm alex marquart in this evening for an acabrera. the president returned from his holiday weekend at hiss florida estate and he heads back to the white house it's not yet clear if he made a major deadline in the impeachment inquiry. the white house had until 6:00 p.m. eastern so an hour ago to let house democrats know whether or not the president is going to be sending a legal team to wednesday's impeachment hearing. that is the first one under the house judiciary committee. let's get straight to the white house and cnn's sarah westwood. sarah, any word now from officials on what will happen on wednesday? >> reporter: well, alex, white house officials are being tight-lipped about whether a response went to the house judiciary committee on whether the white house plans to send a
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lawyer to this hearing on wednesday, the first in the judiciary committee as the impeachment proceedings move into a new phase. but white house officials speaking to cnn did say that they were not happy that chairman nadler had scheduled this hearing for wednesday when the president will be in london for the nato summit. but of course this offer from nadler to allow a counsel from the white house to be present put the white house in a bit of a tough position. because on the one hand we have heard complaints from trump official and trump allies all throughout this process about the lack of legal representation, about the fact president trump didn't feel he'd been given due process in the earlier part of this inquiry. bet sending a counsel to that hearing could lend an air of legitimacy to the proceedings that trump and his allies have slammed as a sham. that's of course a tough decision for the white house. no word yet on what they will do about that. also the white house is facing another deadline on friday. that one as to whether the white house wants to mount a public defense in future proceedings in
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the house judiciary where the vote will be for the articles of impeachment if the democrats move in that position. but we don't know whether the white house does want to begin its public defense of the president on friday or whether they're going to save that for when this moves to a trial in the senate if the gets that far after christmas day, alex. >> that first deadline passed an hour and two minutes ago. thanks so much for joining me. let's take a deemer dive what is ahead this week and in the coming weeks with cnn political analyst david gergen. also here with me is cnn counter terrorism analyst fill mudd. he was a cia counter terrorism official and a senior advisor to the fbi. gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me this evening. >> thank you. >> david, i want to start with you. we've been talking about this deadline all weekend long, this first one. whether or not the president would be sending a legal team to attend the first hearing on wednesday. that deadline passed an hour ago. we still have not heard anything
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from the white house or from capitol hill, as a matter of fact. david, what does the president gain or lose by not participating? >> well, i think this is a no-brainer. i'm puzzled why the white house seems to be divided on whether he should send counsel or not. earlier part of these proceedings the white house has complained along with republicans he couldn't have counsel there, and they couldn't participate, they couldn't take notes, come back and tell the president or talking to some of the witnesses, whatever they want to coo. that all of that was unfair. and now they've been given an opportunity to send counsel. i assume they'll do it. and the president just returned. and i would think in a normal white house what you'd find tonight the president would come in, get a little something to eat, haul in his people tonight and get an answer by 10:00 or 11:00. >> obviously the ukraine scandal is going to be at the center of the impeachment hearings going
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forward as they were in the intelligence committee. we've heard a number of republicans talking about how ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. senator john kennedy is among those republicans who are still pushing this conspiracy theory. kennedy, in fact, at one point apologized for it to our chris cuomo. but listen to what happened today. >> i think both russia and ukraine meddled in the 2016 election. the fact that russia was so aggressive does not exclude the fact that president poroshenko actively worked for secretary clinton. now, if i'm wrong -- >> actively worked for secretary -- my goodness. wait a minute, senator kennedy you now have the president of the ukraine saying he actively worked for the democratic nominee for president. come on? you realize the only other person selling this argument outside the united states is this man, vladimir putin. this is what he said on november 20th. thank god nobody is accusing us anymore of interfering in u.s.
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elections. now they're accusing ukraine. you just accused a former president of ukraine. you've done exactly what the russian operation is trying to get american politicians to do. >> so phil mudd, john kennedy there going one step farther. and this of course is in addition to the secretary of state mike pompeo who we all know is the former cia director also saying that ukraine should be investigated for their role in the 2016 election. how dangerous, phil, is this? >> i think this is pretty straightforward question. we looked to the white house and american president to talk to the american people about stuff that the american people themselves don't have the capability to investigate. there are two separate stories here that the white house is trying to confuse. did russia interfere with an american election in 2016? yes. did the american president try to with hold money from ukraine so that ukraine would investigate the president's political opponent? yes. the white house is trying to
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confuse these because the real story that american taxpayer dollars were withheld to try and press the ukrainians to investigate joe biden is ugly. i think this is not about national security but domestic politics. and actually i think the republicans are winning. they're confusing the american people by saying this is about russia and ukraine together. and the american people don't have the capability nor should they to figure out what the facts are. >> and when it comes to domestic politics it is clear that the president is drawing a line between us and them. take a listen. >> we're winning. you're smarter, you're better looking. you're sharper. and they call themselves elite. but if they're elite, then we're the super elite. could you imagine? they take this perfect call and they want to impeach your president. the failed washington establishment is trying to stop me because i'm fighting for you
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and because we're winning. very simple. >> so, david, how do democrats or the super elites as the president just called them there, respond to that? should they? >> i don't think they ever sbnd to the day to day. what they need to pull together is a massive indictment that i think ought to include not just the question of inappropriate activity with ukraine by the president and his men but also they ought to take on the other additional issues which speak to his fitness for office, and that is a variety of pieces of evidence that mueller came up with on obstruction, that he purposely decided he should not resolve whether it was obstruction or not. that's up to the congress, and now the moment has come for the democrats to stand up and say this is part of the problem, too. and it's generally a problem that is he in fact fit for the office. that's a worthy debate to have. you know, the president frankly
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i think is right, that it's doing better than one would have expected, but i think it's really, really foolish to write off professional people in this country, people who have -- have advanced degrees, people who have made some money who can see this for what it is, and it's a sham that's being erected to confuse them. >> i'm sorry, he was actually calling the republicans the super elites. phil, to you -- >> yeah, the super elites. he's going after the elites, and i think the elites in this country, you know, there are a lot of flaws, but by and large the elites have served the country well. >> looking ahead to this week it's going to be very impactful and consequential on a number of different fronts. we have the president who as we just said has to respond to this first deadline about his legal team participating in that first hearing. so we've got the hearing in the judiciary committee an capitol hill, but the president is also heading to london to attend a
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nato anniversary. phil, do you think that the impeachment process is going to be something that's going to be weighing on him as he is dealing with essentially a crucial moment in u.s.-nato ties? >> i think it is. but i think in a subtle way. we watched him do everything from go to baseball to football games to try to be more statesman like overseas. he's talked about trying not to participate in the sort of difficult political questions in the u.k. about exiting from the european union. i think the president realizes he's in trouble, and he's going to try based on his advisers advice to step out of some of the difficult things he's said on twitter to nato. the question is whether he himself personally can step out and not say something on twitter that people like me say that's ridiculous. i'm not sure he can. clearly he's trying to do so. i question whether he can, but
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he knows he's in trouble and i think he's trying to be the statesman. can he do it, alex, i doubt it. we'll see. >> that's one piece of advice he reportedly got from mark penn, the pollster was to travel more and do things that look more presidential so people aren't focused so much on impeachment. i want to talk about the 2020 race and its most recent entrant, mayor michael bloomberg. and we're seeing a clip from september. before he got in the race but not too long ago that i think is very relevant and going to come up in the campaign and question he is faced with, it is surfacing again online and getting new scrutiny. let's take a look at that. >> the communist party wants to stay in power in china and they listen to the public. when the public says i can't breathe the air xi jinping is not a dictator. he has to satisfy his constituents or he's not going
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to survive. >> he's not a dictator? >> no, he has a constituency to answer to. >> he doesn't have a vote, he doesn't have a democracy -- >> that doesn't mean he can survive -- you're not going to have a revolution. no government survives without the will of the majority of its people. >> margaret hoover pressing the former governor of new york there. what do you make of that? president xi is not a dictator and he has constituents? >> this is going to be fascinating. look, michael bloomberg is a smart guy. i'm not sure east coast liberal sells to middle america that the democratic party has to win, but he's a thoughtful guy who recognizes that the chinese communist party is evolved. that's going to be played into the twitter environment that president trump lives in to say that michael bloomberg is sympathetic to the chinese. that's not what bloomberg says.
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the question is going into an electoral cycle whether the president can portray bloomberg as sympathetic to the chinese. that's not what i heard here. i'm not sure that wins an electoral cycle. that'll be fascinating, alex, fascinating. >> david, obviously there are lots of reports about the muslims in concentration camps in china. here we have mayor bloomberg saying president xi is not a dictator. your thoughts? >> first of all i'm probably prejudiced here but i think mayor bloomberg was first counsel of new york and they've got other issues. i think the point he was making was he's not a dictator or authoritarian. it's hard to do that in china today, and i do think that authoritarian governments are not democratic governments. there's much about them to be reviled.
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but they do -- people do last a long time to authoritarians generally do pay attention to what people think. people in china they think a lot of progress has been made, and their very loyal to the regime. many are very loyal to the regime because of that. >> all right, gentlemen, thank you for bearing with me as we hit on all those different subjects. we're also covering some severe weather that has left more than 50 million people under winter weather alerts from oregon all the way to maine and we have the latest forecast. that's next. she wanted to move someplace warm. but he wanted snow for the holidays. so we built a snow globe. i'll get that later. dylan! but the one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with homeowners insurance. what? switching and saving was really easy! i love you! what? sweetie! hands off the glass. ugh!!
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today is supposed to be the busiest travel day of the year right after thanksgiving with some 3 million people heading home after the holidays, but severe weather is causing big headaches for many travelers. nationwide more than 50 million people are under some sort of winter weather alert. thousands have flights that have been canceled or delayed so far with more storms expected. wet roads triggered a 20-car pileup that snarled traffic for five hours this afternoon in maryland. luckily no one was seriously injured. cnn meteorologist karen mcguinness joins us now. where is that storm system and where is it going? >> it's still encompass a great portion of the great lakes and
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midwest, although it begins to exit towards the northeast. even then we don't have clear forecast for folks. it's going to be some of everything. that in addition to the wind. all right, the center of this storm is still located across the lower great lakes tracking towards the east. there's a secondary area of low pressure. here's the cold front. we've got that warm air coming up from the south. what does that mean? that is the problem. that is the reason why we're seeing some of that rain and temperatures that are above the freezing mark but still have that cold air sweeping in on the northern edge of that. so as the system makes its way a little bit further towards the east, we start to see areas around new york city that see a rain-snow mix changing over to snow, changing back to rain. so still that little component there keeps us kind of a fluid forecast over the next 24 to 48 hours. boston, i see where you've got a rain-snow mix. it is a miserable night. those temperatures hovering
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right around the freezing mark. those roads are going to be dangerous. if you are traveling outside of new york city going into interi interior sections of new york, it is going to be awful. those roads around albany have been terrible because these bursts of snow have materialized over the last few hours and those roads are going to be treacherous. speak of treacherous, let's show you what's happened in rapid city, south dakota. portions of of the midwest did see up to 2 feet of snowfall. it has been miserable. but in rapid city, south dakota, cars were stranded, the roads were terrible to travel on. the we saw near blizzard conditions. it was a mess. but not just on the roads. in the air. we've seen thousands of delays. about 6,000 delays into and out of the united states. almost 800 reports of cancellations. those numbers have just escalated throughout the evening hours. so as people head back from
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their thanksgiving holidays, it has been a real quagmire. and alex, going into tomorrow people in those metropolitan areas, new york, boston, philly are still going to have some problems going into tuesday. >> what a mess. stay safe everyone out there. thank you very much. now some breaking news. next, the white house responding this hour to that request from the house judiciary committee. (vo) the moth without hope, struggles in the spider's web. with every attempt to free itself, it only becomes more entangled. unaware that an exhilarating escape is just within reach. defy the laws of human nature. at the season of audi sales event.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news. we have just heard from the white house regarding tonight's 6:00 p.m. deadline to participate in the judiciary committee's first impeachment heari hearing on wednesday. sarah, what did they say? >> reporter: we have here this letter from pat s letter to jerry nadler. nadderler had offered the white house an opportunity to have counsel present at their first hearing which will take place wednesday. the white house had responded saying they will not have a lawyer present at this hearing on wednesday. i want to read you a key part of this letter again from white
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house counsel pats cipollone to nadler. and while it remains unclear whether the judiciary committee will afford the president a fair process through additional hearings. and they go onto say additionally under the current circumstances we do not intend to participate in your wednesday hearing. now, throughout this letter cipollone is attacking the process democrats have pursued throughout this inquiry. they say it's too late to procure the profound deficiencies that have tainted this inquiry. he does say in this letter that in future proceedings perhaps the white house will consider sending a lawyer. trump allies, white house officials have been complaining throughout the president has not been afforded his due process lights, and witnesses have not been allowed to have administration lawyers accompany them to these hearings.
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he writes we may consider participating in future judiciary commit proceedings if you afford the administration to do so meaningfully. remember that the white house has another deadline coming up on friday at which they can say whether they want to have administration officials or the president's personal lawyers mount a public defense of the president in future judiciary committee proceedings. so that's something we could see on friday. cipallone leaving the door open for that, alex. >> all right, the white house still entertaining that invitation from jerry nadler. sarah westwood at the white house, thank you very much. now nine people are dead in south dakota after their plane crashed trying to take offane a snowstorm. we'll have details on the survivors. that's next.
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for the white house and its lawyers to participate in the first hearing in that committee on wednesday. let's get right back to cnn's sarah westwood at the white house. so, sarah, let's make this clear for our viewers. there are two deadlines that the white house had to respond to. the first one was tonight. the second one was friday night. both of them similar in that they are inviting the white house, the president himself, as well as a legal team to participate in the proceedings, the first of which is a hearing on wednesday. what have they responded tonight? >> that's right, alex. and the white house is saying they are not willing to send a lawyer to that hearing on wednesday. it'll be the first in the house judiciary committee. now, interestingly pat cipollone, the white house counsel who sent this letter to chairman naddler this evening, they had a 6:00 p.m. deadline to do so spends much of the five page letter complaining about the process of the impeachment
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inquiry so far. for example, citing the fact president trump, white house lawyers, republicans were not able to call their own witnesses, that the white house counsel didn't have access to transcripts from depositions that took place behind closed doors weeks ago. and yet now the house judiciary committee and house democrats have given the white house an opportunity to participate in its first hearing in its next phase of the impeachment inquiry and the white house is turning it down. pat cipollone in this letter citing the fact they were not provided enough information about what this hearing will entail. cipollone has said he read in media reports it'll involve legal scholars who will play out for the president when historical significance of this major move but not a lot of major information about who will be there. so cipollone cites that as one of the reasons why the white house won't be sending a counsel to that hearing on wednesday. he did leave an opening to
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perhaps participate in future impeachment proceedings. nadler giving the white house to mount a public defense at this phase of the impeachment inquiry if they so choose. the white house is still weighing whether to do that, but they want more information what those house judiciary proceedings beyond just wednesday will look like. so that door is still open. but wednesday when president trump will be in london for the nato summit, the white house not taking this opportunity to have a lawyer present despite all their complaints about due process so far, alex. >> but, sarah, if we're parsing this language if you look at it on its surface, there's no reason to be optimistic or expecting at least that the white house will be involved in that next hearing. but it is important to note they have not closed the door on that. they are still entertaining that invitation to participate in the hearing, the broader hearings
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because this first hearing is expected to be a more academic hearing with scholars, with legal experts about the importance and the history of impeachment. so the white house despite criticizing quite significantly the process in this first letter, they are still very much going to take, it seems, the next few days to at least entertain that next deadline, that invitation which they have to respond to by friday, right? >> that's right, alex. and the white house had really sort of painted themselves into a corner in this situation because on the one hand they spent this entire inquiry criticizing the process, complaining that they haven't had legal representation. but on the other hand, sending a lawyer to this impeachment hearing on wednesday would lend an air of legitimacy to these hearings president trump has spent a lot of time criticizing as a sham. so really this was going to be a tough call for the white house either way. but it does undermine the white house's argument they've had all along that these impeachment
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proceedings aren't fair, that they haven't had the chance to have representation when they are passing on the first real serious opportunity that they've had to participate in the public phase of the hearings, alex. >> sarah, is the biggest question that the white house is grappling with the prospect of legitimizing this process by sending a legal team. they're not going to send the president but sending lawyers to these proceedings? >> reporter: well, one of the biggest things they're grappling with at this stage is how and when they're going to mount a robust public defense. that's been a complaint from house republicans, senate republicans and allies, that so far the white house hasn't riley been coordinating well with allies on an impeachment strategy. and really the president himself has been all over the place. so when the white house will start a concerted public push, whether they take opportunity with this friday deadline to do so at this stage of the impeachment proceedings before the vote on the articles of
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impeachment, which house democrats say they want to get done by christmas day, or they could wait until this moves over, if it does, to a senate trial where there will be more of a structure for the white house to be able to mount that public defense, and they could have more influence over the process because it just takes a simple majority to set the rules for the senate trial. so that'll be really up to senate leader mcconnell. the biggest issue is grappling when to start that offensive push to try to push back on this narrative democrats have spent weeks crafting in public, and that's what we'll see with that friday deadline there, passing on an opportunity to have representation on wednesday in this largely academic hear agyoz you said, alex. >> stay right there. we're going to take a quick break and have much or on our breaking news right after this. applebee's new sizzlin' entrées.
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we have more on our breaking news this hour. the white house has just responded announcing it will not participate in this week's impeachment hearings with the house judiciary committee on wednesday. the white house counsel responding to judiciary committee chairman nadler's
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letter. tonight just now as the deadline expired we have a senior congressional correspondent manu raju on the phone. what more do we know? >> yeah, this was not a surprise because the white house had been signaling for some time it would not participate in the upcoming proceedings because it contends that the process has not been fair. what the white house is arguing in this letter the house judiciary committee chairman is that the president did not have a right to interview fact witness, first-hand witnesses that testified before the house intelligence committee. those witnesses, of course, laid out a pretty serious concerns of the president's conduct with respect to ukraine, with respect to the president listing rudy giuliani his personal attorney to push for investigations into the president's political rivals. the president has asked for those investigations of aid to ukraine to withheld. and now they say now that the wednesday hearing before the house judiciary committee is
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different because that's going to be more an academic discussion with legal experts and the like discussing what has been found in the house intelligence committees investigation so far, and they say they don't even know who the witnesses are yet at wednesday's hearing so they can't participate. they have not yet responded to a second request for a later deadline to discuss whether they're participating due to proceedings but they're not eager in large part because they want to continue to make the argument the process has been unfair to them, something the democrats have rejected. a bit about that process, alex, tomorrow will be a big day because that's when the house intelligence committee will reveal behind closed doors of reports of the members of that committee will go behind closed doors and review those findings that on tuesday before that house intelligence committee will vote to adopt that report, and send it to the house judiciary committee which will begin its proceedings starting with that wednesday hearing about impeachment, whether or not the threshold meet high
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crimes and misdemeanors and follow quick action after that where the house judiciary committee will vote on articles of impeachment most likely the end of next week. that's what we expect at the moment. and then afterwards the full house is expected to vote to impeach president trump. that would be the third time in american history that would happen. but tonight's news, alex, the white house trying to make clear they will not participate, and engaging on the obsns other than the president did nothing wrong. >> and that is the next step, that next deadline on friday for the white house to respond whether they will be participating in the broader process after wednesday's hearing. manu raju, senior congressional correspondent, thank you very much. all right, our breaking news, the white house will not participate in this wednesday's impeachment hearing. we will be -- we'll have much more on this breaking news after a short break. we'll be right back. ble phone company. (woman) but to businesses,
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and we are back with our breaking news that the white house will not be participating in this wednesday's impeachment hearing, which is the first under the house judiciary committee. i want to bring back our cnn legal analyst paul callan by phone. this is now just under two hours since this deadline passed. there was a response from the
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white house. they said they will not be attending wednesday's hearing. are you surprised? >> no, i'm not at all surprised. this is entirely consistent with a strategy that's been pursued by the president's lawyers through the mueller investigation, which is promising enormous levels of cooperation, promising the president would be involved and palling back the last minute. remember there was a lot of talk about this when the president was talking about testifying under oath for mueller and eventually a compromise was made with only limited written questions being asked. and i think here we've heard throughout the hearings that the president wanted to participate, that he was being given no due process and treated unfairly because the democrats wouldn't allow participation. and now when they offer it, he's saying he doesn't really want to be involved. so it's consistent with that strategy. >> but it's important to note that the white house has not ruled out that participation. they have this second
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invitation. in a letter from jerry nadler the chairman of the judiciary committee to participate in the hearings after -- the proceedings after that wednesday first hearing, which we understand will be more academic and historical and be talking to experts rather than witnesses. so there's the next deadline on friday night. do you have any expectation that the response will be different? because we just heard from the white house counsel and he did seem the leave the door open. >> well, it's always possible that they'll change their approach, but i really doubt it. because, alex, when you look at the situation, you have republicans on the judiciary committee, many of them are lawyers, and they can communicate back to the white house what's happening. and they can also confirm with white house lawyers and use those questions on witnesses who may be called in the hearing. so the president really gets to participate through his republican allies on the committee.
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and i think if he sends his own lawyers in and they become more active, he'll forfeit the argument that this is an illegitimate procedure. and remember that's what he's been saying all along, this is just -- it's all political, it's a witch hunt, it's the democrats out to get him. by allowing his own attorneys to participate in the proceedings, he gives the proceedings legitimacy. so my bet is he's going to continue with his pretending he wants to participate but then pulling back at the last minute. i think that's the strategy you'll likely see later in the week. >> all right, well, the week's about to start in just a few hours time. we'll see what the response is from the white house to that second deadline. we are going to take another quick break. we'll be right back with more of this breaking news. flying south. they never stray from their predetermined path. but this season, a more thrilling journey is calling.
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belgium. we spoke to some children. who had disturbing storying to share with us. we want to hear what you have to say about it. what do you mean nothing? you're a priest. a man of god. these children are accusing of abusing them you have nothing to say for yourself? >> nope. >> he said he was 13 when you abused him. do you remember him? at the compound. he and his father spoke to us. he was crying. he said that you told him you loved him. and you hurt him.
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you have nothing to say? >> no. >> it doesn't disturb you to hear children said this about you? do you want to say anything? we will of course be speaking to the managers about our findings. thank you for whatever this was. >> joining me now from london. that was powerful reporting. what kind of ramifications have you seen so far from the report? >> the belgium federal authorities have started an investigation based off our findings. the united nations suspended their work.
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the government there launched an investigation and the father in the clip has finally been recalled back to belgium. in a move that i think illustrates everything that is wrong with the churches handling of abuse, the salesians the catholic order after they withdrew him from the republic. it took four weeks of us repeatedly going to them to ask why is he in the country. after they withdrew him, they moved him to a campus in which they also held summer camps for children. that speaks to the lack of understanding and the lack of follow through. that the church has illustrated in every reaction it's had to the abuse scandal. >> we saw you doorsteping the priest. clearly they didn't want you in there. you went all over the place for this story. to belgium to the vatican. what were the kind of hurdles
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and challenges you faced? >> that moment that you showed, that was probably one of the toughest things we and i and the team we had ever done. everything that we had built around with regards to speaking to the victims who alleged new incidents of abuse by him. it really hinged on actually tracking him down. and tracking hem down in a country that is war zone. where the government only controls 20% of the territory. that was really hard for us. and just peeling back the layers of the ob ffy skags and the wal. this year the holy father announced they would tackle the abusers and the culture of cover up in the church. and what we found is very little has actually been done. and trying to navigate that was
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incredible hard. given what the victims that you will hear from later tonight -- given what they entrusted us with we felt strongly this was a story we had to tell. >> tell it you did. strong and profoundly important reporting. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and that is coming up next. join us as she travels across three continents for the cnn special report. "abuse and scandal in the catholic church: the case of the predator priest." and for more on tonight's breaking news we have all those breaking details on cnn.com. the white house announcing it will not participate in this weeks first impeachment hearing under the house judiciary committee. although they have not yet ruled out participating in future hearings. there's another deadline on friday for the white house to respond to that. that'll do it for me.
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thank you so much for being with me this evening. good night. i was a happy child. i was an artist. >> i loved to go to school. because i wanted to be with me friends. unfortunately, something came along. >> then i just sort of erupted and i just blurted out, i was abused. >> if they commit a crime, yo

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