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following. note to our viewers, i'll be back tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m. eastern for cnn's special coverage of the house judiciary committee impeachment hearing. until then, thanks for watching. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. ♪ "out front" next, breaking news. a major vote paving the way toward impeaching president donald trump as the house intelligence committee releases a report with new revelations, plus a top republican on the intelien intelligence committee repeatedly named accused of coordinating with rudy giuliani. how does devin nunes explain that and kamala harris ending what was at one point a surging campaign and how it went so wrong so fast. let's go "out front." good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the bake breaking news. an historic vote this hour, and the house intelligence committee
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voting for the impeachment, and it is a big one here and accuses president trump of grave misconduct and abuse of power. it is now, this entire document in the hands of the judiciary committee and it is a handoff that matters for american history because it is the judiciary committee that will write the former articles of impeachment against the 45th president of the united states of america. donald j. trump and this report includes new phone ridiculouses that democrats say show the president's allies and including the top republican on the intelligence xhisht intelligence committee devin nunes, and mike pence's role in helping trump abuse the power of the presidency for personal political gain. so we'll have much more on all of what is in these pages in just a moment. i want to go first to capitol hill and manu raju is out front. first of all, this is a crucial vote in history in this process. what more can you tell us about where we are and what just
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happened? >> at the end of this phase, of this impeachment inquiry and a sign that this is moving rapidly through the house. we expect tomorrow the house judiciary committee will take the mantel of this impeachment push of which legal experts will discuss high crimes and misdemeanors and what about the evidence that it can be found in the two-month investigation and the president's handling of the ukraine policy and whether or not it violated the threshold for impeachment, it makes it very clear, even if they don't outwide call' president to be removed by congress and his conduct is unaccept sxabl something that violated natural impeachable and as the impact report. >> after, followed by articles
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and the house floor vote as soon as the week after. i am also told that behind closed doors nancy pelosi did not commit to impeaching president trump in private meetings with democrats tonight saying that she's still -- the committee, the judiciary committee still needs to confer about the matter and she needs to meet to decide the next steps. she would not discuss the scope of the articles of impeachment and nor would she commit to a time line according to sources familiar with the matter, but democrats are making no -- they're not outright saying the president should be impeached and certainly signaling they're moving quickly and it could still happen before christmas. erin? >> manu, thank you. and as manu was saying. the report that we have here, this is it. this is all the details and this is what they're going to use to draft articles of impeachment. what is in these 300 pages is crucial. what do you need to know? sarah murray is out front.
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>> house democrats concluding evidence of the president's misconduct is overwhelming as lawmakers take a big step forward in impreaching the president. by pressuring the ukrainian president to open investigations into the biden family in exchange for a white house meeting and security assistance, the president placed his own personal and political interests above the national interests of the united states. saw to undermine the integrity of the u.s. presidential election process and endangered u.s. national security, according to the newly released impeachment report. the 300-page document sharply condemned the president's efforts to block witnesses from testifying saying it would be hard to imagine a stronger or more complete case of obstruction than that demonstrated by the president since the inquiry began. house intelligence chairman adam schiff stopped short of recommending impeachment, but
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the sharply-worded document lays ground for a president to be impeach the in american history. >> the president will be back at it doing this all over again. >> other administration officials, vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo, rick perry allegedly knew of his actions. they spread false narratives about ukraine, former vice president joe biden and ambassador to u krkraine marie yovanovitch. the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani, ukrainian-american businessman, lev parnas, the office of management and budget and congressman devin nunes, the top republican on the house intelligence panel. >> it is deeply concerning that
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at a time when the president of the united states was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival that there may be evidence that there were members of congress complicit in that activity. our colleagues on the hill caught up with devin nunes earlier today and he refused to comment on this report. other house republicans say they don't have concerns about who devin nunes was talking to and evidence of the sharp split tonight. >> want to go to denny heck. good to talk to you, sir. this is the first time you've spoken out since getting the 300-page report which you've passed on to the committee. what's your reaction of the 300 pages? >> i am very sad. this is the saddest week that i can remember. i'm saddened that we've come to this point and we feel compelled
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because of the president's behavior to have to pass this report, that he abused his power and he betrayed his oath of office and i'm equally if not more saddened by the fact that my friends across the aisle, many of whom i believe are good people near are abjectly self-deluded or worse, beyond comprehension in terms of cynicism. the president did this. he did this. he violated the law and what he did, moreover is wrong, and i am sad that we've come to this points. >> the report lays out calls we did not know about. pages 156 through 159 for anyone at home who wants to skip to some crucial parts lays out a whole bunch of calls that we did not know about involving rudy giuliani, his indicted partner helping him get dirt on the bidens and devin nunes your colleague on the committee. it also shows multiple calls that giuliani had on these krurl dates where he's having
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conversations about ukraine and pushing the investigations with a number shown simply as quote, one. "-1." one of them is 12 minutes and one of them is almost nine. another one is almost nine. these are meaningful calls. who do you think giuliani was talking to. who was number one? >> probably someone in the white house p, but look, there's lots of information. we just got meta data, what tha is when the calls occurred and what the duration was, but there's lots of information that would have further helped us exactly what went on here that the president in an unprecedented move to obstruct congress refused to allow to be brought forward. the contents of those calls would be one because if we were allowed to talk to those people we would know exactly what was being said. >> one are one of these calls, dur aith minute, it says white house number and those are the
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longer, and 8:24, 8 and:28, 13 minutes, these are all to dash one. i'm just wondering if that's it is president of the united states or are you not comfortable speculating about that? because it would be speculating at this point, erin. >> i don't think we need to speculate about the misdeeds because of the evidence that bears it outside that there were misdeeds is overwhelming in and of itself. >> thoosz calls show giuliathes giuliani, and it's the same day that giuliani, according to "the washington post" took credit for ousting the ambassador to ukraine, a person whom the president of the united states disparaged on the phone call to the ukrainian president. what does this tell you? eight phone calls with the white house on the day giuliani takes credit for ousting ambassador yovanovitch. >> it tells us intuitively for
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which there was evidence. there was a coordinated campaign for reasons that i'll go to my grave not understanding to oust ambassador yovanovitch through character assassination. remember, he had fully the authority, president trump to remove her. he did not have to attempt to destroy her professional and personal reputation. he chose to do that because that's his style because frankly, he can be cruel and for no purpose. he being have just removed her, but y rudy giuliani is into -- in this up to his neck and we've known it all along. before we go, republican senator john thune, this will go to the senate, as soon as the house votes on it if you vote to impeach. he was asked if the president should have asked the ukrainians to investigate the biden and just the basic fact and he was very careful to say that the question here is not whether it's appropriate and whether it's impeachable. we can all read between the lines of what he's saying.
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is that disappointing to you? >> i would love to be having the debate about whether or not the president's misdeeds are impeachable, but that's not the debate seem to be having though, right, erin? because the republicans are en masse in the house denying that there was anything wrong or improper that happened. they are en masse propagating this completely debunked conspiracy theory about ukraine engaging in interference in the 2016 election. let's have the debate about whether or not this rises to the level of an impeachable offense because that's a debate that would be happy to america. >> thanks, congress mid-cap. appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. >> deaf en nunes just revealed about the calls about rudy giuliani and the indicted ukrainian associate. >> what is your reaction in being named in the report, sir? >> and the white house publicly calling the report ram bellings of a basement blogger, but behind the scene, this story is different and as first lady
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devin nunes and two days later on april 12th, four calls made between nunes and lev parnas. lev parnas is now indicted and one of giuliani's associates who was digging for dirt on the bidens and ukraine. so nunes was talking to both of these individuals multiple times as this theory is being publicly pushed on fox news. gloria borger, joe lockhart, press secretary for president clinton during his impeachment investigation and former prosecutor laura coates. let me start with you, how bad does it look for devin nunes who is on the intelligence committee? >> it looks pretty bad. if i was a member of the house ethics committee, first of all, i would look into this and ask questions about recusal, whatever the rules are, governing recusal in the house of representatives or disclosure, and i would be
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asking questions for devin nunes and i don't know if adam schiff was told about these phone calls. you know, devin nunes was a key questioner during these committee hearings. >> yeah. >> and the second thing i would worry about is the southern district of new york. the southern district for new york has indicted lev parnas. parnas is clearly trying to cut some kind of deal and if you're a lawyer working for the southern district, you would say what is it that you were talking to devin nunes about? what did he want to know? >> right. >> did he use his office to try and coerce you into giving him more information? there are all kinds of questions you would ask if you were a lawyer. i'm not one. laura coates is, so she can talk about it, but those are what comes to mind right away. >> yes, he was a questioner and supposedly asking researched questions and obviously calls all of that into question, but
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what's the significance of this? it appears possibly helping giuliani get dirt from ukraine on trump's political rival right in the middle of helping him. >> i'm not sure it has that much significance as far as impeachment proceedings. they have to have a very, very solid case going forward against the president. this is a whole separate thing that gloria puts her finger on that the southern district of new york, and these people don't have the giuliani crowd or the drug dealers according to john bolton and they don't have the same protections as the president and it may be a back-doorway to get a lot more of the details here of the theme we already know about. >> the attorney for lev parnas tweets today. devin nunes, you should have recused yourself at the outset of the impeachment hearings. let lev speak. >> so laura, when you hear this, lev parnas clearly wants to talk and he knows a lot. he knows a lot about giuliani and perhaps he knows a lot about the president himself because of
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his conversations with rudy giuliani, and certainly now about devin nunes. how big of a threat could lev parnas be? >> i'm never dismissive of somebody because they may be in a position to be opportunistic and lev parnas who has everything to gain from potentially being cooperative or disclosing information and possibly putting himself in a greater light, but because of the proximity of the powers that be in this case, it may be that he has extraordinary information about the idea of the role. remember what we're here for, though. the role is not about whether devin nunes in particular or rudy giuliani at this time or lev parnas or his associate was the central figure in the coordinated effort. it's whether the buck stopped at the president's door and according to this report, erin, talks about the very coordinated effort led by and delegation beginning with the president of the united states. so if lev parnas has additional information that's added to the function that says, look, the president was well aware and
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similar to what ambassador gordon thompson said that everyone knew about it. if he could add to that, perhaps he is better suited for the trial, if there is one. >> right. >> and obviously, on that point, joe, chairman schiff said he has the 300-page report. it shows a preponderance of evidence showing the president was united states, and he said i'm actually not passing judgment yet. here's what he said. >> i'm going to reserve any kind of a public judgment on that until i have a chance to consult with my colleagues, with our leadership and i think this really needs to be a decision that we all make as a body so i'm going to continue to reserve judgment. >> yet here's schiff wrapping up the impeachment hearings as the
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chairman two weeks ago. >> when the founders provided the constitution for impeachment they were worried about what might happen if someone unethical took the highest office in the land and used it for their personal gain. this president believes he is above the law, beyond accountability and in my view there is nothing more dangerous than an unethical president who believes they are above the law. >> so what's the strategy? clearly, he -- he's laid out a case and thinks the president should be impeached. >> president schiff needs to show deference to chairman nadler at the direction of nancy pelosi took the lead on the investigative part of this and did a tremendous job. so what he's doing here is saying, well, now it goes to the next and i'm not going to pre-judge what chairman nadler is going to do, but what he did is he gave chairman nadler an exact -- >> you can just go through it.
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the white house tonight slamming the house intelligence committee report that lays the groundwork for impeachment. press secretary stephanie grisham, quote, chairman schiff's report reads like the r ramblings of a basement blogger and she said that right after her boss said this. >> we had our biggest fund-raising month ever. i don't think we've ever had the spirit that we have right now in the republican party, and the impeachment hoax is what's done it. >> jim acosta is traveling with the president in london tonight. so, jim, obviously this is the public front and full of superlatives. do they have concerns, though, that you have heard behind the scenes? erin, white house official says they are still going over the detail, but i did talk to a trump campaign source that they are still worried about rudy
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giuliani there was no reason to worry. based on what a surface so far in this impeachment inquiry and what's in the schiff report and the president and his top aides as you were mentioning are taking personal shots at the chairman of the house intelligence committee after the report alleging that mr. trump abused the pressure of his office to dig up dirt on joe biden and it also said and this is just quoting here at the end of this one-sided sham process, chairman schiff and the democrats utterly failed to produce any evidence of wrongdoing by president trump and before the report came out the president ripped into schiff calling him, quote, deranged. he also reiterated, erin, talking to reporters today that he's not going allow his acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney or mike pompeo to participate in the house impeachment proceedings where the republicans would have more control over there, but so far the white house and this is
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interesting,ier interesting, erin, not picking apart the details and they've not laid out why rudy giuliani was in contact over at the office of management and budget and a trump campaign source said this evening that rudy giuliani should be worried about what's in this report and another trump adviser has described giuliani as a liability and giuliani has hinted that he has this, quote, insurance policy in case the president turns against him and giuliani, we should mention, he was only kidding about that one. >> thank you very much, jim acosta, live in london and it is worth pointing out, rudy giuliani was the omb, and why is rudy giuliani calling omb anyway. everyone is back with me. gloria, do you think president trump should be worried after today's report and specifically to jim's reporting about giuliani? >> sure. he's half way thrown him under the bus so i think he may be all of the way under the bus in the not too distant future.
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of course, the president is concerned, and they can downplay it all they want, but this is a comprehensive report that says a couple of things that should be concerning to the white house. one, this isn't just about a phone call. this is what the report calls a dramatic kresh endo within a month's long campaign driven by the president and his senior officials and they go through who they are and they include the vice president in that, i would add, and they say that they were either knowledgeable or active participants in an effort to extract from a foreign nation the personal, political benefits sought by the president. in other words, as gordon sondland put it, everyone was in the loop, and then they go through chapter and verse describing it. so if i were in the white house, secondly, the question is not so much whether it was inappropriate and it may be inappropriate and not impeach believe and senators, if this
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goes to the senate and i think it will, they'll have to ask themselves not whether it was appropriate, but whether it was an acceptable way for a president po, well, if this president would get away, from doing anything corrupt if he or she thought there would be nothing to pay for it. >> vice president pence is mentioned multiple times to reports for failing to provide notes to investigators and senior u.s. officials including the vice president, the secretary of state, the secretary of energy were either knowledgeable of or active participants in an effort to extract from a foreign nation the personal political benefits sought by the president. those words, talking about the vice president and everybody else close to the president, knowledgeable of or active participants in. >> it's a shame that people are exhausted by the term collusion,
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erin, because essentially that defines that very terminology there to suggest that you are all in the loop to actually have a coordinated effort in campaign to do something that would take the power of the electorate. the fact that everyone's involved in it, of course, and we all know from either watching the public hearings, hearing about the closed-door proceedings and whether the president and rudy giuliani's own tweeting other and things, where there is a concerted effort to stone call, as well and if someone was able to provide exonerate you or put you in the best possible light, would that not be the 3r7b who you coulded choose? the choice not to do so and instead say it's a stonewalling issue because of the integrity is compromised and maybe it would play out better if the president were not invited to address these things and if people were not offered want opportunity to reject these things and instead they would reject it and that's why where
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we are right now and that's why this is a classic case of stonewalling. by the way, which the president was offered of, and president president clinton and president nixon, joe. >> everyone knew which gordon sondland said, but when they are going so specifically at the vice president himself. >> right. i think they are trying to create the the reality that there is a massive conspiracy, and everyone was involved and the vice president was one of the key players here, and they know that the vice president is a key political player in this -- and they want to make sure that he doesn't go away scot-free, but i think it's mostly to show the enormity of the conspiracy when you start going through cabinet members and the head of the omb and then this shadowy group run by rudy
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giuliani. you see a conspiracy and you see the president at the top of it. >> laura, when you see john thune, senator john thune say, denny hack said i would be thrilled to have john thune in the house, where ad all, i'm not going to talk about whether it's appropriate and i just just want to talk about who had been kri cal of the president and come back out a little bit come out and say that. >> i hear two things. the president's words are impactful for people who are worried about re-election or worried about position in republican society. i hear the notion that because this particular inquiry is so narrowly focused, it leaves room for people to not take the difficult position to say we'll look at it in its entirety. there is a reason why they're
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not looking at everything in the mueller report and he can do it without compromising his integrity further. >> thank you all very much. >> the house judiciary committee and hey, this is in their hands and they're the ones who read it and draft the articles of impeachment over the president of the united states, donald trump so what will those articles be? plus trump ridicules kwamala harris for quitting the race and harris isn't taking it tonight.
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we are just hour away from the house judiciary committee meeting first judiciary hearing and as the house intelligence committee releases the 300-page report arguing there's overwhelming evidence of abuse of conduct and obstruction on the part of president trump. congressman, this is now yours. these 300 pages are yours. how does this report impact your hearing tomorrow? >> well, our hearing tomorrow focuses really on the legal standard. that is, what do the terms, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanor mean? what is the context in which our founders adopted articles of impeachment or the constitution that provide for articles of impeachment and our founders were principally worried about
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foreign interference and abuse of power and we'd just won the war of independence and we wanted to prevent the president from being above the law and it's important to understand what the legal terms mean and what these constitutional provisions mean and what the conduct is for the enactment of these provisions in the constitution. so we'll have legal scholars that are going to walk us through the history and the legal standard, and i think it will be important as we look at the facts and then have to apply this legal standard and we were getting that process with the hearing tomorrow. >> i want to ask you about the process because you mentioned the legal experts and they're digging into the background of the four law professors who will testify tomorrow. two of them are registered democrats and one of those donated to elizabeth warren this year. i would presume you knew all of that coming in. were you comfortable with the criticism that you knew was going to come by choosing those individuals? >> look, we know that the
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individuals that are coming before the committee are renowned legal scholars, they're constitutional experts from very respected universities with lots of scholarship, and look, this is a pattern of the president. he has attacked the credibility, the background of witnesses routinely. they attacked individuals who have served in uniform. they've attacked great patriots in the foreign service and intelligence community. this will is an effort to distract about a very serious case about bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors and how those terms apply to the conduct of the president of the united states. >> before the public testimony you said that cnn that democrats were having discussions about what articles of impeachment would look like. where do those discussions stand now? >> no, i think a number of members have been thinking about it if, in fact, what those look like and we've not begin that deliberate process and we've received the report tonight from
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the intelligence committee and we have engaged with respect to the contents of the mueller report. tomorrow we'll begin the hearing on the legal standard and the constitutional provisions, but the committee hasn't yet begun a discussion about whether or not we will move forward with articles of impeachment and what those will be. we're just not there yet. >> where do you stand now on your thinking? >> obviously, what we have is about ukraine and that's what you're considering. however, you could include articles of impeachment on the mueller report, right? on anything, obstruction any whatever it might be from there. where do you stand personally on that? do you keep this on ukraine or do you now say, look, let's put it all out there? >> i think what we have is a pattern by this president of putting his own financial, personal and political interests ahead of the public interest. and we have a lot of evidence and a lot of different context that demonstrate that. i think the committee will have to make a judgement if we decide to move forward with articles of impeachment whether we keep it
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narrow or limited to the ukraine scandal or we include other things and i think that's a judgement call for the committee after again, there is a thorough review of the intelligence committee report and a deep understanding of what the evidence of the constitution provide and i haven't made a judgement to which of those is the right path. i think that discussion will happen if and when we decide to draft articles of impeachment. >> congressman andy biggs says there will be a bunch of brawlers, that it will get hot and feisty, making a joke of it and implying it will be aggressive tomorrow. jim jordan will be there and we saw him in the house int intelligence committee along with others. do you think the republicans will try to disrupt it? >> we've seep the republicanes try to distract from the deadly serious nature of the inquiry. this is about the president of the united states asking a foreign power to interfere, to undermine the national security of the united states and to undermine the integrity of our election and abuse his office.
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these are very, very serious allegations and however, i've seen our republican colleagues time and time again, behave more like the defender for donald trump than an independent part of another branch of government charged with oversight. i don't think it would know different, but in terms of the legal scholarship and we certainly can't account for how they'll behave. >> i appreciate your time. >> kamala harris' spectacular rise and fall. what went wrong? >> she got her answers wrong ndk didn't know where she stood. >> that was a former staffer and why this relationship is so fraught. this holiday season choose the longest lasting aa battery... (music) energizer ultimate lithium backed by science. matched by no one.
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responding within minutes, don't worry, mr. president, i'll see you at your trial referring to the senate impeachment. harris had surged to the top of the pack before plunging in the polls, so what happened? >> it is with deep regret but also with deep gratitude that i am suspending our campaign today. >> senator kamala harris announced the sudden end to what began as a campaign of potential and promise. at her launch in january, thousands packed downtown oakland, california. >> let's do this! >> reporter: an attention grabbing moment, harris would have another at the first democratic debate when she launched an attack on former vice president joe biden on his opposition to federally mandated busing to desegregate schools decades ago. >> there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bussed to school every day, and
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that little girl was me. >> reporter: the poll numbers soared, but those campaign highs wouldn't last. harris struggled to stake a clear position in a crowded democratic field. on health care she seemed to say she would get rid of private insurance. >> let's eliminate all of that. let's move on. >> reporter: then she backtracked. >> it was in the context of saying let's get rid of all the bureaucracy, let's get rid of all the -- >> not the insurance companies? >> no. >> reporter: then a lack of clarity on her message shifting from one central theme to the next. >> talking about my 3:00 a.m. agenda. >> justice is on the ballot in 2020, and that's why i'm running for president. >> reporter: the costs piled up while her poll numbers plummeted. harris refocused on iowa just weeks ago projecting confidence. >> listen, we're going to do well in iowa, and i'm sure of that. >> she was getting some good advice at some points in this m ka pain. she followed it up with flops, got some of her answers wrong,
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didn't know where she stood on important issues. >> reporter: gill duran was a senior adviser for harris. sources tells cnn the campaign suffered from infighting her sister maya, leading to confusion among the ranks. >> if you can't find a way to resolve tensions between one of your long-time aides and your own family member, then it's not clear why you should be put in charge of a lot more than that. i think the country was ready for a leader like kamala harris. i don't think kamala harris was ready to lead the country, but she's young and we haven't seen the last of her. >> reporter: harris is california's u.s. senator. by dropping out now before a december 26th deadline, her name will not appear on the primary ballot in california thereby, erin, potentially avoiding an embarrassing loss in her home state. >> which she certainly wants to do with her political ambitions. next, the unusual relationship between the two
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melania trump in the spotlight tonight as she joins president trump in london. they are with prince charles and the duchess of cornwall attending a reception at buckingham palace with the queen, but melania trump has sometimes had to share the spotlight to be overshadowed by first daughter ivanka trump, and as kate bennett reports, it's complicated. >> reporter: unprecedented describes most things about the donald trump administration, one unique element, the presence of the president's daughter, ivanka trump and her relationship to first lady melania trump. glamour as mother and stepmother since 2005, but it was twibs
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duri 2016 during the trump presidential campaign. >> my father, donald j. trump. >> when the dynamic between the two women shifted to politics. most times on the campaign trail. >> hello, iowa. >> melania trump not interested in doing traditional spousal appearances, so it was ivanka trump as surrogate who stepped into the role. >> i just want to thank you, honey, because great job. >> staying on as the female face of the administration and the family after trump became president. >> this is the first u.s. government, all of government approach to empowering women in the developing world. >> taking on as senior adviser some of the more traditional first lady issues involving women, child care credit, and female entrepreneurship. >> a real power named ivanka. she would call me, and she would say, daddy, you don't understand. you must do this. and i said, all right. >> reporter: creating an odd dynamic, switching off front
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seat backseat as the two women in trump's orbit. a relationship that one source with knowledge of the relationship says has created a, quote, cordial but not close dynamic, and at times friction. there are similarities that have reportedly caused static. >> it's a very special place i will never forget. >> reporter: melania trump's first big solo trip was to africa, and ivanka's first big solo trip was also to africa. melania trump was the first to introduce highly produced mini videos of her events for public consumption. ivanka now makes her own short films with voiceovers and music. on trips with trump when melania goess go ivanka's profile diminishes, when she doesn't, ivanka often steps forward. in a way splitting the traditional norms, but sharing one key component. >> i give him many advices, but, you know, sometimes he listens. sometimes he doesn't.
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>> reporter: they both have the ear of the president. >> i'm candid in my opinions, and i share them, solicited or otherwise. >> reporter: kate bennett, cnn washington. >> be certain to check out kate bennett's new book, "free melania." thanks for joining us. ac 360 starts now. good evening, the house intelligence committee's impeachment report is out, and if you thought you already knew everything that would be in it, well, there's more. the committee voted to adopt it tonight as expected along party lines. the bottom line of the report is this, quote, the impeachment inquiry has found that president trump personally and acting through agents within and outside the u.s. government solicited the interference of a foreign government, ukraine, to benefit his election or his re-election, i should say. that's the part that we expected. what we didn't know was that the report would cite newly revealed hard evidence, phone records making it clear that this is not merely about that phone call the president made on july 25th during which he asked