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mr. nadler -- >> aye. >> ms. jackson lee. >> aye. >> for the third time in a little over a century and a half, the house judiciary committee has voted articles of impeachment against the president. >> we are defending the constitution and defending the integrity of the 2020 presidential election. >> to use the power of impeachment on this nonsense is an embarrassment to this country. >> the media announcing what it calls another successful quote, crucial test. >> it's a deadline for the u.s. to change its attitude. we really feel like we're going back to familiar territory here. this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. >> 8:00 here in the east. good morning to you. president trump is now just one step away from impeachment. the full house is expected to vote on two articles wednesday.
there are abuse of power and obstruction of congress. if passed that could make president trump the third president in u.s. history to be impeached. >> the president has a lot to say about this. apparently he's up for a political fight. we've learned he would prefer a long senate trial with witnesses and he thinks the spectacle of an impeachment trial could give him a political boost here. the president we know is douling down on this july phone call with ukraine, insisting that it was perfect. what else do we know from the white house this morning? >> good morning, christi. this isn't surprising, we've seen this over and over again during this entire impeachment inquiry, and as he gears up for this trial in the senate, do not expect president trump to retreat. as you said, christi, he would prefer a lengthier trial with some of those big name witnesses. think about a big reality tv show, adam schiff, the unnamed whistle-blower. however, senate republicans are trying to steer him away from that idea. they say opening the door to
more witnesses on their side would mean more witnesses on the democrat side which could be detrimental to president trump. however, while president trump cannot contain -- he cannot decide what exactly is going to happen, what this trial will actually look like, what he can determine is what his messaging will be. if the next couple of weeks are anything like what we saw this week, expect a lot of angry tweets and a lot of outrage. this is president trump just yesterday after the articles were approved in the house judiciary committee. g >> i think it's a horrible thing to use the too much of impeachment which is supposed to be used in an emergency and it would seem many, many, many years apart to be using this for a perfect phone call where the president of that country said there was no pressure what so, didn't even know what we were talking about. it was perfect, the relationship is perfect. >> christi and victor, one
important thing to note, a lot of republicans, even those who are defenders of president trump have said it's not a perfect phone call. they just say it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. >> let's look ahead to the senate trial, likely that's coming after the president is impeached next week. mitch mcconnell is defending some kmengts comments me made o news about coordination with the president to defend the president. what is his defense and explain the controversy. >> we have to look at it like an actual trial, the senate trial. all the senators are meant to sit as impartial jurors. when we go up to a lot of senators and ask them to comment on what's going on in this inquiry they say i'm impartial juror, i can't comment, that would be inappropriate. now you have the head of the jury saying he's working with the white house, on the same side of the white house. some republicans are iing insa
should recuse himself. mitch mcconnell has he has a reason for this. >> it was done in the clinton trial as well. we're on the same side. >> and tom daschle is a democrat. he said he never spoke with president clinton, however, his office was in constant coordination with the white house. this is just a necessary for the logistical aspects of peefl impeachment. >> kristin holmes, thank you so much. >> former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and presidential historian tim naftali is with us as well. glad to have you with us. tim, i want to start with you specifically about what we just heard there from leader mcconnell. compare that with what happened back in the 90s with lead aer
daschle. is that comparison applicable? >> well, what's really important is that leader mcconnell has to make the same effort that leader trent lott, who was then the majority leader, a republican leader in the senate in 1980, the same effort to create a set of rules that both sides will be comfortable with and the american people will be comfortable with. tom daschle and trent lott worked together to create these rules and then 100 senators voted in behalf of the rules of the senate trial of william jefferson clinton. and the question today is will leader mcconnell, whose first comments about this have been that he's coordinating his actions with the white house, will he be capable and willing to work with senator schumer to create a similar set of rules that 100 senators in the current senate will find acceptable.
>> so, you also heard there people, there are lawmakers who are saying you know what, leader mcconnell just has to recuse himself, this isn't working. to that you say what? >> he won't recuse himself. nobody can force him to. that's up to mitch mcconnell. i do think what he has done here is a real problem. first of all, i think it's a problem. there are senators on both sides who have already voiced where they're leaning on impeachment. i don't think they should do that. they'll have to raise his or her hand and swear an oath to be impartial judges of the evidence. what mitch mcconnell is doing goes way beyond the pale here. mitch mcconnell even boasted i will be coordinating on everything with the white house, with one of the parties in front of him. and he's all but guaranteed an acquittal. both of those things undermine public confidence in this being a fair and open process. >> so speaking of a fair and
open process, help explain for us the balance, ellie, the balance of power with justice roberts and leader mcconnell. paul cowan was on last hour andy called justice roberts a wild card because he will have a certain amount of power there. the question is what will he do with it.certain unknown about what chief justice roberts will do. when chief justice rehnquist presided in 1999, he did very little. he had a famous quote saying something like i did very little and i was quite good at it. there's two ways they can work out the rule here. they can reach an agreement like trent lott and tom daschle did in '99 and if they can't, chief krs roberts has to decide, do i
want to be hands on. the senate under majorities rules get to set the procedures. you would not expect chief justice roberts to take over and override the will of the majority. >> tim? >> i agree with ellie. cheap justice rehnquist was following chief justice chase's precedents. that's why i get back to the importance of the rules. it really important for mitch mcconnell, if he has any credibility left, to go to schumer and start the process of working out rules that are respected and appreciated and supported by both sides of the aisle. part of those rules will involve the number of witnesses president trump clear lirr wants a sh clearly wants a show trial, a
reality tv show but it's up to the senator to decide how many witnesses there will be, whether they will be live or on videotape as was the case in 1999. that's why it's so important for the two to work together and why mitch mcconnell's kmengts hacom been so damaging to the process. >> the verbiage has been controversial. is this an opportunity for democrats to kind of sell their message for 2020? >> sure i mean, look, donald trump has sort of -- one thing you hear from the democrats over and over again is that donald trump has really forced their hand. and you heard the clip just now of donald trump saying, well, this is too dangerous, we can't be impeaching every few years. the question is what did donald trump do in order to make this happen? and i think democrats are under no illusion here. i think in all likelihood, the overwhelming likelihood is that the senate acquits and likely on
a straight party line vote. but the democrats said we have a constitutional duty here and it's more important that you draw a precedent that you cannot get away with some of the things donald trump has done. >> tim, real quickly, what is the state of the country when this is all over, tim? >> what one doesn't want to see happen is the normalization of impeachment. if the democrats get a chance to lay out the grounds for the two articles of impeachment, the evidence that exists, the public will understand there has to be a threshold of evidence. if on the other hand the republicans message that we saw in the debate and house judiciary committee really capture the imagination of american people ap people think there's nofd behind th there's no evidence behind this, just hatred for president trump, i think it will be used more in the future and it should only be used in the most serious of
cas cases. >> elie hoenig, thank you to both of you. >> north korea has conducted a crucial test. they say it was part of a nuclear deterrent system. north korea will not say exactly what it tested and south korea is unable to confirm any specifi specifics. >> justices say they will hear testimony on the president's financial record and tax return. >> and we are counting down to kickoff of the 120th army-navy game. coy wire can you feel it? >> reporter: welcome to philadelphia, pennsylvania, home of the declaration of independence. philly cheese steaks, boys to
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subpoena trump's long-time accounting firm and two of his banks to -- for financial documents. it will be decided in the heat of the election campaign. no documents are going to go forward for now while the justices consider the cases. trump has shielded his documents on multiple front since before the election and the case has implications far beyond impeachment and the trump era. the house subpoena go to congress's power to investigate. the house wants the documents as it looks into trump's foreign policies, foreign interference in elections and hush money. trump says that the house has exceeded its authority when asking for these documents. in a separate case that goes to trump's claims of absolute immunity from state criminal proceedings, lower courts ruled against the president citing cases concerning president nixon and president clinton. after the proceedings are over, what the supreme court grants mean today that president trump's legal problems are far from over, they will continue.
>> so elie stick around to answer a question or two. jay sekulow, the president's attorney, grateful the court took the case. a bit of disappointment from nancy pelosi. is this a win for nancy pelosi. >> it's a preprevioreprieve. it's interesting to try to forecast how this might come out in is three different cases combined into one. in three district courts and the intermediate court of appeals. all six of those courts have said those tax returns have to be produced. so far it's six for six against donald trump. how will it come out in the supreme court? we can't know for sure. i think we'll see a divided court. >> quickly detail the importance of this court ruling on this
these cases. >> so in order for the supreme court to take a case it requires four of the nine justices. at least four have said we want to take that case. i think we're likely to see a split along the four liberal and four conservative questions and i think your swing vote will be chief justice job roberts, though he is conservative, he's becoming more unpredictable and he has sided with the liberal group, most recently in the case last term on the census and the citizenship question. he swung over with the liberals and swung that case 5-4. chief justice roberts will be the one to watch. >> you saw that here and with the individual mandate. thanks so. >> thanks, victor. >> mississippi's 15-week abortion ban was ruled unconstitutional yesterday. the fifth circuit court of appeals struck down the ban. it is the latest legal blow to an effort by a
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welcome back. all seven democratic candidates who qualified for next week's debate say they will not participate if they have to cross a labor union picket line and there may be one because there is right now a labor dispute involving food service workers at loyola marymount university. >> they all tweeted in solidarity with the local 11. ironically, the unity comes as senator elizabeth warren doubles down on her rivals of pete buttigieg and joe biden. welcome back to both of you. >> thank you. >> julie, let me start with you. i want to start with a bit of sound from senator warren. she's not naming anyone. she names mayor bloomberg later. i want you to listen to the criticism of former vice
president biden and now former mayor pete buttigieg. >> unlike some candidates for the democratic nomination, i am nomt cou-- not counting on an epiphany and supporting tax increases on the rich that they've imposed under democratic presidents for a generation. >> we've seen the dip in polling, but is this resonating, helping her campaign getting a little more aggressive? >> we'll have to see if this hps her campaign. this more intense rhetoric from senator warren really comes as she has dipped in the polls and as buttigieg has risen. i think she's very much trying to position herself as that progressive alternative to buttigieg and biden. so it makes sense that she would go on the attack at this point.
but going back to that labor dispute involving the dnc at loyola in los angeles, it was interesting because senator warren was actually the first candidate to essentially come out and suggest that she would threaten to boycott the debate with all of this. so i think this is her very much trying to position herself and trying to hold on to her front-runner progressive status. we see that she hasn't really taken off the gloves when it comes to going after senator bernie sanders, but i don't want to ignore him in all of this discussion because there was an interesting poll that came out of south carolina yesterday that showed him for the first time very much edging up on former vice president joe biden in the state. this was the first time that joe biden did not have a double-digit lead in the state. so i thisnk that suggests that bernie sanders, who has had very consistent support through the primary could be edging up and that's something that senator warren needs to be aware of. >> what's interesting about
senator sanders is that one of the narratives of the 2016 campaign was his challenge was african-american voters but the most recent poll out of south carolina showed that he was just second to former vice president joe biden with african-american voters. the two of them split more than 60% of support from black voters. let me go to you, alex. that retracted endorsement of jack huger, who is replacing katie hill, he said our movement is bigger than any one person. i hear my supporters who are frustrated and understand their concerns. he said today he is rejecting all endorsements for his campaign and i retract my endorsement. this is after he learned more about comments he made about african-americans and muslims and jews. is this a misstep? how are they explaining this?
>> that seemed a convenient way to make the best of a bad political situation where the candidate actually said i don't want to take any endorsement and that allowed bernie sanders to say i'm just respecting his wishes without ever having to admit that he made a mistake. you know, it appears that the sanders campaign was not prepared for the backlash they were going to face. they were warned, especially the california team was warned about this is a politically fraught issue, it is an incredibly important swing district and, you know, previous writings and comments are problematic. especially when they are replacing what congresswoman who left after revenge porn was leaked about her and has become a little bit of a feminist rallying cry. the sanders campaign was clearly caught a little bit flat footed but, you know, to the earlier point, he has raised the most money, he has raised the most money from the most donors, he has the best small motor vehicle
do -- small-dollar operation in politics. it would be a mistake to count him out. replaces two early state directors and doing some reshuffling and layering and others doesn't bode well exactly either. >> julia, back to you. "the new york times" reporting this weekend that president trump is suspicious of the commission on presidential debates and this is their reporting. you have to take the president's comments sometimes with a grain of salt, but the possibility that he will not participate in the 2020 presidential debates, is this something that republicans could carry, the democrats could fight against? what are you hearing about this? >> you know, at this point i think if president trump were actually to not participate in those general election debates, that would be a huge issue for his campaign. even though he is president of the united states and he already has this vast platform, a bigger
platform than any of the democratic candidates running right now, the debates are very much an opportunity for any candidate running to position their ideas against their opponents' and very much go one on one with their opponents and have the american people observe that. i don't know if it would be the best public relations move. i don't think his political base, who has been very loyal to him will necessarily care but that could definitely hurt him, i would say, with potentially independent swing voters. it could just be seen as him more stirring the pot and creating more of a distraction. however, i think, you know, in the grand scheme of things, i don't think these debates are a top priority for voters, but i don't necessarily think it would play well for president trump. >> alex? >> you know, i think a lot of this was baked back in 2016. if you'll remember, the first debate his internal microphone inside the room wasn't working. the next debate, the commissioner didn't want imto bring a woman who had previously
accused president bill clinton of sexual misconduct, they didn't want to let him bring those women into the booth. so he has been frustrated and aggrieved with this commission for a long time. i would expect that and my sources within the trump world sort of expect he is going to complain, he is going to whine, he's going to push to get as favorable standards as possible. by the end of the day he will probably end up debating and this is a little bit more of a strategic move to gain leverage with the commission rather than a serious threat. >> all right. we will have to use one of the president's phrases, we will see. good to have you both this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. >> so the spectacle of the 120th army-navy game, a display of balance between service and sports. coy wire is in philly. no one did it better it and the man you're about to talk to, yes? >> yes. one of the greatest football
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>> coy wire is live with roger staubach. >> i am here with the football legend, navy's heisman-winning quarterback, two-time super bowl champ with the dallas cowboys and nfl hall of famer, roger staubach. you have a special role today. >> the coin toss, usaa is a sponsor for the service academies in the game. they put this coin together. it going to be the coin toss. >> last year president donald trump flipped this coin. he will be here again today. so presumably he could flip it yet again. >> mr. staubach, with all of your success over the years, how did the u.s. naval academy prepare you? >> the academy, leadership was the name of the game. our responsibility when you go
in, when you graduate you're ready to have men and women working for you. i mean, it's a major responsibility. but over those four years, it taught me a lot that had a hot to do with being in the service when i was in the service and also i had a real estate company for over 40 years. what i was taught at the naval academy was the foundation for my life really. it was a great experience. i mean, i had four years there and still close to the academy and still close to naval academy graduates. my life is naval academy. >> you still look like you could strike a heisman pose, too. they never seek out award and accolade bus we do get to highlight those who celebrate our country. today uniforms navy is back to the 60s. the two heisman winners are
featured on the uniforms and will wep what you meant to this organization. what does that mean to you? >> when i was a flee, joe had just graduated and some of the varsity players stayed and helped coach the flee football team. i met joe. i watched him play and all of a sudden i got to meet joe b bellino. i would never have dreamed my number would be on a helmet with joe. >> it's an honor. each navy football player will be wearing a jersey with a specific patch representing someone who served in the u.s. navy. this was kaleb king who died in plane crash just last year. what does that say about this game? >> it shows how much we love our brethren. i mean, it's honoring -- in our
country today, woor he're honor our military. i go back to the vietnam area and today we're honoring our military. and it feels so good when someone comes up to you and says thank you for your service. of course, honoring kaleb along with the many others, we can do it here is he army-navy game. >> from victor, christi and all of us here, thank you for your service. it's the only game being played where everyone on the field is willing to give their life for everybody watching. >> go navy. >> a family claims that hackers accessed their home security cameras and watched their daughter. >> and we've got the video to show you. also, former kentucky governor matt bevin defending hundreds of pardons he issued in his last days in office. the fallout from these controversial pardons. who could be back on the street? unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you?
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welcome back. a couple of minutes ago in references senator elizabeth warren's comments about former vice president joe biden, i also said former mayor pete buttigieg. that's wrong. he's still the mayor of south bend, indiana. i apologize for that slip. just wanted to clear that up before we moved on with the show. all right. lt's go to these families who are claiming that hackers accessed their security cameras, giving them live feeds of their front doors, their living room, even their bedrooms. watch this. >> who is that? >> i'm your best friend. i'm santa claus.
>> mommy! >> i'm santa claus. don't you want to be my best friend? >> can you bring like a web browser up on your phone and type in the web site that i tell you? >> no. >> why? i'll leave you and your family alone. >> so that first one was an 8-year-old girl in her bedroom. you heard her call for her mommy because it was so frightening to her. the second one was a family in florida. put yourself in their position. they're just in their home and all of a sudden this voice starts talking to them and telling them things about their lives. makes you wonder how long have you been watching and what do you know about our family? ring says its services have not been compromised. the company says some users' log-in information could have been accessed through other means. they're encouraging users to use different passwords for each account and certainly set up
that two-factor authentication that add an extra layer of security to your account and a lot of the tech experts that we talk to say that two-factor authentication is key. >> can you imagine just in your house making a sandwich and a voice now says go to this web site and i'll leave you alone. that is frightening. >> it's frightening. >> former kentucky governor matt bevin is defending his decision to commute hundreds of convictions. last night bevin dismissed accusations he used the pardon power inappropriately. this is the tweet from the former governor. "am i perfect? no, never have been. but i did my best over many hours, days, weeks and years to reach fair and just decisions. not one person receiving a pardon would i not welcome as a
co-worker, neighbor or to sit beside me or any member of my family in a church pew or at a public event. >> we report on the fallout of his ambassadors. >> reporter: former governor bev in pardoned these people, a man who at age 16 killed his parent and left their bodies in a basement, this man who raped a 9-year-old girl and served less than 18 months out of a 23-year sentence. the victim's mother says it's a slap in the face. >> feels like we're going through it all over again. we just got to the point where we felt safe leaving the house. >> reporter: prosecutor rob sanders told cnn the man hadn't
served enough time to even begin sex offender treatment. >> it shocks the conscience. it offensive, it mind boggling how any governor could be this irresponsible. >> reporter: now there's also a question of political favoritism. >> we have someone who was convicted of killing someone in front of his wife at his home who pulled the trigger. >> reporter: state lawmakers say they want to investigate this case because the family of the man pardoned raised more than $20,000 last year to help bevin. >> the bottom line, if it looks like a duck and talks like a duck, you got to look into whether or not it's a duck. >> natasha chen, cnn, atlanta. >> still plenty of questions that will follow after that. still to come, jewish graveyards, schools, cultural centers in france were all attacked with hate graffiti and the threat of more remains. we'll discuss ahead. blocks, signals go y
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french authorities are investigating after more than 100 jewish graves were decent crated in communities near the german border. >> the damage is just the latest sign of rising hate across the globe cnn's melissa bell walks us through it. >> reporter: tombstones marked by hate, but also cultural centers, town has, schools. in august 42 anti-semitic
attacks in this region in just 18 months. this village is just the latest to be decent crated, 107 of its tombs were found marked it swastikas earlier in this month, and though the cleanup is under way, the stain will be harder to remove. >> this kind of symbol touched more than you think. it's waking the history, part of the family line died in auschwitz and -- so to see where i live, it's a disease in the society. the crazy of a national task force has been created. it was the french president who came. another kay that remains unsolved. a source close to the investigation says that locals are believed to be responsible,
locals who may have been incited by global web sites. while the hunt for the culprits continues, we wanted to find out where they are finding encouragement. two french language sides registered in the panamas and bahamas and enabled to stay online by an american company both shared pictures of the atta attacks. reached to comment, white europe told us they stand behind their posts. participate democracy told cnn while they don't condone the attacks, they do believe it's all a jewish conspiracy. both sites celebrating the number 14, a reference to a slogan coined by the late american white supremacist david lane, and which was also found graffiti'd on one of the westhoffen tombs.
both sites openly celebrate anti-semitism. that here in france is a crime. now, in the past cloud flair has diagnose continued its services. to the block daily stormer, so why the different treatment when it comes to hate speech that is in french? closu cloud fair has not respond to do cnn's questions. and cnn found that facebook did allow both until cnn reached out for comment, after which it blocked them. twitter told cnn that it's taking action to prevent linking to such content. we asked france's interior minister to do if the united states was doing enough. >> translator: no, there is a clear difference of culture.
it's not about opposing french or european consult kurt to american culture, but clearly on these subjects there's a belief in the freedom to say anything and everything. i believe there's no freedom when it's us and our fundamental values being attacked. >> it's a marking on sacred stone, it's a marking that spells out hate, and in this country, generations have understood what hate means and what it can lead to. >> reporter: the last tomb was buried last year, roger kahn hit escapes the camps and dying peacefully in his sleep at 88. with web sites celebrating attacks on tombs like his, the question is whether he will be
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