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i'm brianna keilar live from washington. and under way right now, the senate trying to rush a mammoth stimulus package through today. this is a bill that promises to inject $2 trillion into the american economy. the end goal is to fend off a new great depression. this morning, new york's governor offering a glimmer of hope, evidence suggesting that social distancing and putting
american life on hold might be working, but there is a disconnect today between when president trump wants to get america back to normal and when his own health experts on his coronavirus task force say that would be safe to do. now, the latest cnn tally puts the number of coronavirus cases in the u.s. at more than 60,000, which is almost 10,000 new cases each day. and of those cases nationwide, about half of them are in new york. the governor there, andrew cuomo, saying last hour, his state has ten times the problem of the next most impacted state. some good news this morning that social distancing measures might be working, he says, but that is really just a glimmer of hope in a very dark picture coming from new york. the hospital bed shortage is serious. and as of this moment, new york is still short about 15,000 ventilators. governor cuomo is warning, "we have purchased everything that can be purchased." and in new york city, every facet of city life really hit in
some way, and that includes the new york police department. 211 confirmed cases in the nypd as of last night. the sick-outs would cripple the department under normal times. there are nearly 3,000 officers who are at home. cnn's brynn gingras is in new york city. brynn, give us the latest. >> reporter: yeah, and brianna, listen, i just talked to a police officer who told me that he now -- his partner is being shifted to a different borough here in the city because there is a need in that particular borough. so officers are all being shifted around, because as you said, this is a huge burden on that force, and you know the size of the nypd. so, this really goes across the board, right? if it's fdny, nypd, emergency workers, not just here in new york, but of course, across the country. here outside this hospital, i want to get out of the way so you can see. listen, this line has gone down in the last hour, which i don't know if that's good or bad news, but it's certainly what we're seeing, but i can tell you at one point this line was wrapped
around this hospital. and within just the last three days that we've been reporting here, they have now added another tent. that white tent wasn't here yesterday. that is an annex to the emergency room where these people you see standing in line can get care, possibly even get the coronavirus test. but again, i keep mentioning this, but it just breaks my heart, because you imagine all these people standing in line for hours, not feeling well, having flu-like symptoms, trying to just get some sort of care, get some sort of answers. that's the situation here on the ground. it's what the governor has constantly talked about in his news conferences. and then, of course, he's highlighted the needs, right? yesterday he was extremely fiery in his news conference talking about the need of ventilators, personal protective equipment for the nurses and doctors. the good news is, he says the state has enough for the next three weeks, but again, he's always said that after three weeks, you know, that apex of the curve, that's when he's expected for that surge in hospitals to hit. so, who knows what's going to
happen after that three weeks. and you know, nicely put out there that, you know, there's that need for ventilators, and we really only have about half of what this state needs, according to the governor. so, the need is here, and certainly, we are seeing that every day that we are out here in front of this hospital. it's certainly pretty jarring to see, standing here and seeing these numbers increase, increase by the day. >> yeah, it is scary to watch. there's no way around that, brynn. thank you so much for that report there on the ground in new york city. president trump has picked easter as his target date for reopening the economy and for people getting back to work, which is 18 days from now. let's talk with dr. wilbur chen, an infectious disease specialist at the university of maryland and also a member of governor hogan's covid-19 task force in the state. i just wonder, doctor, easter. 18 days from now. how comfortable are you with that? >> um, not comfortable in a nutshell.
i think people are going stir crazy. they're feeling cabin fever. i can understand that people want to get out there. i understand that businesses want to reopen. but on the other hand, i think that in this situation, i'm really concerned about an acceleration of the infections that we're seeing nationwide. >> and i wonder when you hear the president talking about this goal -- and look, we've heard from a task force, a coronavirus task force, a white house source, who is saying that is more of an aspirational date. but i mean, he's very much in charge when he's talking about the days and this desire that he seems to continuously want, which is to reopen sooner than his experts are saying. how concerned are you by the fact that he and his scientific experts are not on the same page? >> well, you know, of course i'm concerned, and i hope that all parties are listening to each
other. i think on the one hand, there is -- there are people who are economists and others who are trying to make an economic argument under this instance and others, such as myself, health care workers, public health officials, that are trying to also understand and balance out lives. and so, i think that at this time, what's implicit in kind of the question is that there is an economic argument to lives either saved or not saved and for the medical systems, you know, the burden that we're having right now on the medical systems as a whole, how they're being overwhelmed. so, again, that's a discussion beyond me as well, but i think that it is concerning. you know, i continue to watch and see how this develops. i'm hoping that we will continue to extend this social distancing
and all of these other measures for beyond easter. >> yeah. i think -- and we've been hearing that from all of our schmert experts, so you're in a lot of company. the world health organization saying that the united states could be the next epicenter, but that it's not too late to turn it around -- testing, tracing, isolating, treating. what do you think about that? is it possible with the way you see things going in the u.s. for the u.s. to turn that around? >> yes, i'm hopeful. i think that there are a lot of activities that are in progress and that on a day-to-day i hear about new developments. positive developments in which we are opening up more hospital beds, we are getting more lab testing online. these sorts of measures that, again, are helpful. you know, the w.h.o. certainly has that concern that they've said that the u.s. could be the
next epicenter. i think that we're seeing a lot of cases continuing to evolve. here in the u.s., we're now kind of right behind italy, so we're -- we don't want to be in that enviable position of having more cases. we don't want to be a leader in that instance. but again, you know, the more time that we're able to buy with the social distancing and closing of businesses allows us to continue to surge our capacity in many different areas. >> do you think that there should be stay-at-home practices across the state or across the country? how do you think that should be carried out? >> yeah, i think that what i've been seeing is that from state to state, there are slightly different practices, but a lot of unifying factors are coming through many of the states, especially the states that have community transmission that's
been well defined, and that is that the closure of schools, the closure of nonessential businesses. in some states, they've used the word lockdown. other states, such as maryland, we don't use the word lockdown, but we've basically employed the same measures as many of the other states, so we've been very aggressive here in maryland. and i think that it's been due to those measures that we've seen some early successes, at least, with minimization of community transmissions. now, it's still early, so the data are not completely out, but i think that we're still seeing that we're minimizing what could have been much worse in the acceleration of cases. >> yeah, we're right here in washington, d.c., next to maryland, sort of waiting, looking at this wave coming at us and just wondering how big it's going to be when it crashes. dr. chen, thank you. >> you're very welcome. thank you. the senate stimulus bill comes in at a hefty $2 trillion. so, what's in there for small
businesses, for big businesses, and for individual workers? i want to bring in our julia chatterley. so, julia, these cash payments that have gotten a lot of focus, the thing is, they're likely not going to get to americans as quickly as they need, because they need the money now, right? so, tell us about this expansion of unemployment insurance. what's there? >> so, it was a one-two punch. you're quite right. and you are focusing on the important thing. this was an extension and an expansion of unemployment insurance. a bump every week of $600 on top of what you get from the state, your individual state where you're living, but it was also expanded for four months. but actually, it's even bigger than that. if you're a furloughed worker, so you're still on the payroll, but you're not earning, you also qualify, and the benefit there is that if you have health insurance, you continue to have that, too. but it also includes the gig economy workers, your uber driver, people who are
self-employed, contractors as well. there was always a gray area here, and this is vital for this economy. it's around a third of workers operate in this space. so, this is a big deal. >> that is a very big deal, and i'm so glad you highlight that, julia. when we're talking about the timeline for folks seeing that cash payment, when are they going to see that? who all is going to be getting that check? >> a great question, too. so, $1,200 for adults. if your income is below $75,000 a year. it then incrementally phases out as your annual salary rises to the point where you get to $99,000 and then you don't get a check. for children, $500. so, that gives you a sense of the payments. you asked the right question, though, because what we've seen in the past when these payments have been made, checks can take up to two months to get to people. maybe they've accelerated that and they can do that this time, but i think the hope is that technology's a little bit better now.
if you've paid taxes, they could have you a direct deposit information. also a similar story with social security benefits as well. so, the hope is that we can use a combination of the two and simply get money into people's hands as fast as possible. this is meant to be an instant cushion. >> yeah, and i want to ask you, because just in, julia, there's a disturbing, new report from the economic policy institute, and it predicts that 14 million jobs could be lost by this summer alone. so i mean, that's more than 10% of all private-sector jobs lost. what does that number say to you? >> it's a real warning. i mean, we are talking great depression-style percentages in terms of unemployment. this whole stimulus bill was about trying to prevent small, medium-size, and large companies, letting go of their workers. this is the critical thing. so, if we're talking, if we look more broadly at the small and medium-sized businesses there, the key on that lending and the grants will be, please keep hold of your workers. same story. there's been a lot of controversy about this lending
facility for big businesses, and there will be conditions and oversight attached, but again, it's about holding on to workers. brianna, it's going to come down to how long this economic stop goes on, how long even the strongest businesses in this country can continue to hold on to workers, particularly given that they have a lack of clarity about the future. this will help, but some clarity on the outlook here in trying to cushion people, there's still a lot of uncertainty, and my money's on more stimulus being required. >> more being required, yeah. we've been hearing that from the states. so, i think we'll be hearing that from a lot of folks as well. julia chatterley, thank you so much. >> absolutely. thank you. >> and i will speak to a coronavirus survivor about what she's going through. we'll talk about her message for young people who think they cannot get sick. plus, the governor of louisiana says his state has the fastest growth rate of cases in the world. and prince charles testing positive for coronavirus. what it means for the royal
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the coronavirus pandemic has been mainly understood in data, the number of confirmed cases, the infection rate, the number of days required for quarantine, but it's so important to share these stories of the people who are behind those numbers. and one of those people is lara wolfson. she is one of nearly 100 people who contracted this virus after attending a medical conference in boston in late february. and now, three weeks after her first symptoms appeared, she has pretty much fully recovered, and she's joining us now to talk about this. laura, you look health, but i'll tell you, we've had a lot of folks on who are recovering from this who say they can still feel
just how tough it's been to go through this. walk us through how you feel now and how this all began for you. >> yeah, hi. i'm feeling great now. i feel back to my old self, and i don't have any lingering symptoms. but over the course of the last two weeks is probably the sickest i've ever been in my life. it started with just a really little dry cough that i didn't think very much of. about almost a week after exposure at the conference and then a couple days after that, the cough disappeared, but i could tell i was coming down with something. it's just those early stages when you get sick, when you think to yourself, eh, maybe i need to take a little extra vitamin c today. but in the days that followed, i had a fever of 101 for almost a week. i had extreme fatigue. i can normally power through most cold and flu things, but this really knocked me down for
a full week in bed with very little energy to do anything. and maybe one of the scariest symptoms was the tightness in the chest. so, it is as they describe, just a little bit of difficulty breathing. it's the pneumonia chest. so, difficulty filling my entire chest, and when i did fill my chest with air, it would make me cough. it was very uncomfortable. >> and so, how did you manage that? did you just -- i mean, were you truly fearful? were you uncomfortable? >> i was very uncomfortable. as you know, there's no cure, so they send you home and they tell you to treat it like the cold or the flu. so i was taking over-the-counter medication -- dayquil and nyquil every four hours, trying to hydrate, and i was resting, not necessarily by choice, but this just really knocked me down.
>> yeah, you just had such incredible fatigue, as you described. and you know, one of the things that you've talked about in sharing your story is that it's not just the physical symptoms, it was also just the mental element of this. tell us about that. >> yeah, for me, that mental and emotional really rivaled some of the physical symptoms. it was this incredible dread once i found out what my diagnosis was, that i had coronavirus, of notifying my friends and family that i had seen in the week before i had any symptoms. they say that when you don't have symptoms is one of the most dangerous times to be spreading the virus. so, i had just been going about my normal day, going to work, photographing other conferences. it was two of the busiest weeks i had had in months and i had seen hundreds of people. so, notifying all of those people was heartbringing for me, the fact that i was inflicting this panic and anxiety that i was experiencing on them and the
fact that they would then have to quarantine and tell their family members. you don't know who you've seen that week that has a compromised immune system or lives with a grandparent or a parent that could experience these symptoms so much worse than i did, and one of the -- i guess if there's a silver lining, i was so busy during those two weeks that i didn't have a chance to go home and see my own parents. my dad has pancreatic cancer. he's on chemo. and that would have been the worst possible outcome i could have imagined from all of this. >> yeah, that is -- i mean, that is a blessing, lara, that you were not at home to see your parents. can you speak a little bit to -- i know one of the reasons you're sharing your story is because you want other people to know this can happen to them. they don't have to be older. they don't have to be immunosuppressed. you are young. you are health. y. and this happened to you. >> yeah. i'm 36. i'm very active.
i work out every day, eat well. i would consider myself in very good health. and the circumstances i found myself at the conference wasn't anything that gave me pause. nobody sneezed on me. you know, i was just behaving normally at my job. i don't touch clients. so, this was -- i caught this so easily, and that's really why i'm sharing this. it's a cautionary tale of we need to stay home. we need to do the social distancing. and i think everybody should be acting as if they already have this virus. we should be self-quarantining. >> all right. it's very good advice. lara woolfson, thank you so much for sharing your story with us. >> thank you for having me. >> we're going to get you coronavirus questions answered. join anderson cooper and dr. sanjay gupta for a live town hall called "coronavirus facts and fears," live tomorrow night
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new york may have the most cases of coronavirus in the nation, but louisiana actually has the fastest growth rate of the virus anywhere in the world. this is according to the governor who released this graph using case data through last saturday. and it shows that louisiana is surpassing new york and also the netherlands in terms of just how quickly this coronavirus is spreading there. within a single week, louisiana has seen its case load grow by ten fold, from fewer than 100 cases to more than 1,000. currently, there are close to 1,400 cases with at least 46 people dead from the infection. and the economics researcher who has been crunching the numbers on the state of louisiana is joining me now.
gary wagner is a professor at the university of louisiana at lafayette. and professor, thank you so much for joining us and giving us a sense of what louisiana is going through. give us a sense of the kind of impact a trajectory like this has on louisiana. >> sure. thank you. it's a pleasure to be here. i started taking a look at the data that johns hopkins university has been compiling last week, just to get a sense of for the areas that had been affected longer than louisiana and the trajectory that they were on, what insights we might be able to gather that from, and i was really surprised to learn that if you look at the first two weeks after a confirmed case, louisiana is outpacing, as you mentioned, everywhere else in the world. so that obviously puts us on a very bad trajectory, unless something changes. so, right now, we are outpacing spain, outpacing italy, and i think we know what can potentially happen based on what
we're seeing in those countries. >> okay. you're an economist, to be clear, not an epidemiologist, so i know it's not really for you to explain why the growth rate is this high. but looking back on just the timing of this, it's worth noting that it wasn't too long after mardi gras that cases started popping up, is that right? >> that's correct. in fact, in louisiana, the first case, the first confirmed case occurred 13 days after the end of mardi gras, and it occurred in orleans parish, which is where new orleans is located. in the new orleans area, the new orleans metro area is still the hotspot in the state where we're seeing very rapid growth in new confirmed cases. >> and right now, your state is under a stay-at harks home order. this is a state of emergency that's been declared. the governor has been consulting with you as the state's going through this. how often do you speak with him? what are you telling him? how is this data being used to
try to improve the situation? >> so, i update the louisiana department of health on a daily basis and make some projections about what i think is going to happen with caseload growth. they share that information with the governor's office. i've been on a couple conference calls with him, but i don't speak with him on a regular basis. i think that mitigation steps that the governor took on sunday, hopefully we were early enough in the process where we can flatten out the growth trajectory for the state and not end up in a situation like we're seeing in spain or italy, for example. >> yeah. and gary, thank you so much for joining us. we are keeping our eyes on louisiana. we are thinking of all of you as you are starting to go through this with these really concerning numbers. gary, thanks again. >> thank you. after lagging behind the rest of the world when it comes to testing for coronavirus, can a just-approved, rapid-results test help get the u.s. back on track? and nearly one-third of the
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the coronavirus outbreak is now very personal for nba star karl-anthony towns, who plays for the minnesota timberwolves. his mother is now in a medically induced coma after testing positive during a recent hospital visit. on instagram, towns fought back tears while describing what this is like for him and his family. >> i talked to her when she went there, told her i love her. told her how much i loved her. she was telling me things i didn't want to hear, so i dismissed some things she was saying because it wasn't something i want to hear. it came it a point where, you know, it's difficult. it's very difficult for me and my family, to say the least. >> now, towns calls his mother the strongest woman that he knows, and he says she will beat this. the number of reported coronavirus cases is surging here in the u.s., but in china,
life is starting to return to normal, and one sign of that is that starbucks are starting to open once again. the coffee megabrand reopened about 95% of its stores, in fact, in china, that were forced to close as the coronavirus outbreak began to spread. i want to bring in cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yukavich. help us understand the impact and scope of starbucks in china, how china handled the coronavirus crisis there and how they made the decision that they would reopen their stores so quickly. >> right, brianna. well, it's been about nine weeks since this the originally closed their stores in china, and they've been slowly opening them over the course of several weeks in order to get to where they are today, which is at about 95% of their stores being open. they even reopened their stores in wuhan, which is the perceived origination of the coronavirus. but the ceo, kevin johnson, he did an interview yesterday with
cnbc, and he said that they were able to do that because they were able to map out and timeline how the virus was both spreading and then being contained. and based on that, they were able to understand how quickly they could then scale up their stores and open them. and what they're doing is they're trying to use that timeline and that mapping now here in the united states. the ceo of starbucks believes that we're about three weeks in to the surge, so they don't plan on opening stores any time soon, but they're using what they learned in china and applying it here in the united states, which could be very interesting for other businesses to sort of follow suit with, and brianna, as we know, starbucks stores are closed right now. the only thing that's happening there is delivery and drive-thru orders. but one of the advantages of being a big company like starbucks is that they are able to pay their employees for 30
days, whether they're working or not. obviously, some small businesses not able to do this, but larger corporations really trying to step up in this very unknown time here especially in new york city and across the united states right now as we're just starting to see this surge and starbucks committing to paying their employees for the next 30 days, brianna. >> yeah, 30 days. that is definitely going to help their employees who are at home not working. vanessa yurkavich. thank you. next, i'll speak live with an emergency room doctor about why more men are suffering from coronavirus than women and why the turnaround time on testing is one of the biggest issues right now.
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when it comes to stopping the spread of a pandemic, testing really is key. earlier this month, the w.h.o. director had a simple message for countries, and that was test, test, test. well, the u.s. has actually lagged behind other advanced nations in this critical area. the cdc's first test did not work, and it was weeks before new kits were sent out and then red tape kept labs from using their own tests. this weekend, the fda finally approved a coronavirus test that promises rapid results in approximately 45 minutes. the manufacturer says they will begin shipping this week, but is it too late? join me is dr. rob davidson, an emergency room doctor and executive director of the committee to protect medicare. doctor, i want to ask you about testing, but first, just give us a sense of what you're seeing at your hospital and what it's been like there where you are in the midst of this pandemic.
>> yeah, we're definitely seeing cases every day. the number of cases each day as a percentage of our patient population is definitely going up. you know, we've had some admitted patients. as a smaller hospital, we've had fewer critical care patients than the bigger ones, but we're definitely seeing the numbers. and as of yet, we've been really limited in our ability to test these folks, unless they're sick enough to get admitted or have some other factors. i just got word today in the last few hours that our reagent and testing abilities is now ramping up a bit, so our criteria are broadening a bit, so that's really good news, that finally we're going to be able to start testing more widely people with a variety of symptoms and get a better handle on the numbers of cases that we have. but here in michigan, i know our biggest hospital in the detroit area yesterday announced they're nearly out of ventilators. so, like it has been in new york and on the west coast, it's here in michigan and it's ramping up. >> what are all the limitations of not having enough tests?
and even when we're hearing this test that you can get a result in 45 minutes, what's the reality of trying to get tested, clauding people who may have minor symptoms? what's the reality of getting tested? >> yeah, the reality is, at least in our area, until today, our directive has been, you know, only the very sickest patients, those who are immunocompromised or health care workers really qualify. now that we're expanding, we're going to be getting into a less sick population. i think it's important, because in order to ever relax the restrictions we have in our state, which is essentially a shelter in place, we need to know, you know, kind of where we are on the curve of how many people are infected. we need to be able to test asymptomatic people, because we know that people can spread the disease before they have symptoms. so, you can, you know, critically isolate and quarantine the appropriate folks, and then those who are not at wrist get back out into the community and start opening up business again and get back
to work. >> and the cdc says that those with coronavirus symptoms, they're officially well when they no longer have a fever, when their other symptoms have improved and they have received two negative tests conducted 24 hours apart. that seems obviously tough, right, in terms of having enough testing to be able to do that. so, what do you do to make sure that people are over this? >> yeah, i mean, our directive has been, and this is under the guidance of cdc, given the lack of the ability to test folks to that extent -- if we're just dealing with symptomatic people that we're assuming are positive, we tell them they have to go home and isolate until their fever goes away and then give it three more days after that. and you know, all available data from other countries and now from this country, for the increasing number of cases, would suggest this is a safe route. of course, it would be safer if we could test everyone twice and get those negatives. and that's the hope going forward as these tests become more available. >> i want to ask you about what
we're seeing in this gender disparity, especially when you look at italy, that more men are dying from covid-19 than women. they're dying at a rate of two times that of women in italy. do you have any sense of why this is deadlier for men and if this is a true trend in the u.s. as well. >> from the all the data i've looked at in the past few days and epidemiological data. that seems to be more of a factor of lifestyle issues and in wuhan, originally, older men more likely to get infected. it may be an issue with, you know, the lifestyle of those individuals, why they may have beengregant living situations, where they were going to get the virus more likely. there have not been sufficient tests to determine if there's truly a gender difference between, you know, getting more ill or higher risk of dying just based on gender, so for right now, it's not really a screening tool or a marker for us to
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with more than 400,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus around the world, countries in high gear really doing anything they can to stop the spreads. lockdowns in place. people are being told to stay home and not to leave their houses. let's check in with global cnn correspondents for more. >> reporter: i'm tom mcclean in madrid, it's getting worse, not better. bringing total to more than 3400. the virus now killed more people in spain than it has in china where this outbreak began. and perhaps this shouldn't come as a surprise. spain has a shortage of protective equipment and ventilators that is so severe that they've now asked nato for help. spain has also struck a deal with china to buy nearly half a billion dollars worth of supplies, including 550 million
masks and almost a thousand ventilators. that equipment will start arriving this week, but the full order won't be filled until june. >> i'm in rome and here in italy, we're in the middle of a critical week to understand if the effects of the lockdown have been working. authorities are saying that this week, we should see the flattening of the curve. we've had three days of a slowdown in the number of new cases. we did have a spike in the number of deaths 743 over the course of a 24 hour period of time, which is not good news. but the fact that the new cases are starting to slow down is exactly what everyone in this country is hoping for. >> i'm in new delhi. lockdown for 1.3 billion people in india after modi made the announcement. the coronavirus has taken place in the coronavirus along with ten deaths.
will not be affected. now this big self-quarantine measure in india, over a quarter of the world's population is on a partial or total lockdown. >> reporter: i'm fred pleitgen, and germany had one of the highest positive cases but lowest death toll, because they tested early and a lot and able to isolate a lot of cases in the fairly early stages of the outbreak. germany also has one of the most sophisticated health care systems in the world, but even the germans warn they're still at an early stage and things could get a lot worse. >> reporter: i'm max foster outside of windsor castle in england. i'm told the queen is in good health after news her elder son and heir prince charles has contracted the coronavirus. he's at a safe distance in
scotland but i'm told he's in good health as well but self-isolation. the pair did come in contact with each other on the 12th of march, but the medical advice, i'm told, to the palace, he only became contagious the day after he met the queen, so now trying to work out who else he came in contact with. i'm brianna keilar. this is cnn's continuing coverage of the coronavirus outbreak. nearly a third of the globe is under some type of lockdown. more than half the u.s. is under some kind of order to isolate. and cases in this country have now surged past 60,000, but we begin with some major positives to report this hour on the pandemic. first, finally an agreement in congress on a $2 trillion relief package to help so many americans who are struggling. and second signs that all the sacrifices americans making are
working. this from westchester county, the nation's first containment zone in new rochelle. >> the good news side, can you slow the rate of infection? yes. how do you know? look at what we did in westchester. that was the hottest cluster in the united states of america. we closed the schools, we closed gatherings. we brought in testing, and we have dramatically slowed the increase. nassau county is 3,000. relatively right behind westchester. they were at like zero when westchester had started. so we can slow it and we have slowed it. >> but while the progress is made on those fronts, problems persist, especially for health care workers with a lack of life-saving equipment and also hospital space. plus, we're now hearing about infection hitting o