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infections. it now has more than 240,000 cases. the highest total in the world after the united states. >> thanks, guys. and our special coverage will continue now with kate baldwin. hello, everyone, i'm kate baldwin, thank you so much for joining us this hour. he says he was pushed out for putting science above politics. he then filed a whistle-blower complaint to raise at alarm and the president then called him a disgruntled employee trying to help the democrats and that man is set to lay out his explosive allegations to congress and we now have his opening statement. in it an unsettling warning from dr. rick bright. that is who we're talking about. but the united states is headed for in his words, quote, the darkest winter in modern history with unprecedented illness and fatalities unless something
changes now. more on what dr. bright is expected to tell congress tomorrow in just a moment. but here is where the numbers stand right now. the national death toll in the u.s. now tops 83,000 people. 1.4 million americans have been infected but the picture on ground looks different depending on where you live. you could see nine states there on your screen are trending in the wrong direction with increased cases this week. with the biggest jumps in south dakota, arkansas and delaware did you 22 states are trending in the right direction with decreased cases this week. so some good news for the moment. but again this is only a snapshot in time. what you're seeing here. and that means even more americans are asking key questions about every day life like when will children be able to go back to school. there are big moves on this front today too. but let's start at the white house, kaitlan collins is there and joining me now. you got your hands on dr. bright's opening statement.
what else is he going to say to congress and is the white house preparing? >> reporter: well two things. we knew he would say it was retaliation and that is why he believed he was pushed out of the job and we saw that in the detailed complaint filed this week but he's talking about what is to come and the warnings about whether or not the u.s. is prepared for that. something he makes pretty clear in this opening statement that he's prepared to deliver tomorrow to lawmakers that is not happening right now. and he lays out a series of steps talking about things that he thinks need to happen. the ramping up of supplies and they need to be coordinated and equally distribute add mong states instead of the way that it is being done now, a patch work as some of the governors have described it. and he also said, kate, there needs to be a national testing strategy. but he's basically warning what is going to happen if this advice that he's offered and that other experts have offered doesn't happen and he says, quote, our window of opportunity is closing. he said without clear planning and implementation of steps that i and other experts have
outlined, 2020 will be the darkest winter in modern history. so he has a pretty dark warning there at the end about what this could look like and of course he is also -- we should know he is trying to be reinstated to his job. he's not coming out and offering this critique or analysis of what is going on. he wants to be put back in that position. now we've heard that it is unlikely, it is unclear how that is going to be resolved and we've heard from hhs issues pushing back saying he had other issues during his tenure. bright's team pushed back on that by giving us his reviews and showing one of the top hhs officials that he feuded with gave him really good reviews during his time at the head of the vaccine agency. so tomorrow is going to be interesting because it is a look from someone inside of the administration who apparently based on his statement does not have an issue offering this unfiltered view of exactly what he believes what went wrong in the early days of this outbreak.
>> absolutely. good work, kaitlan, thank you. so another focus for the white house today for sure is that key model that the white house has leaned on so heavily through the crisis just shifted yet again now projecting 147,000 people will die from the virus by early august. that is up nearly 10,000 from the last projection. but looking at the numbers from the last seven days tells a different story. when you look. these are from johns hopkins in the last seven days. nationally the rates of new cases are going down. and nationally the rates of new deaths on average per day are going down too. and if you look at the average of new cases among states compared to a week ago, more states are on the way down than up. that is looking back. now let's get to this new projection which is looking forward. joining me now is ali mcnaught, a professor from the health and
metrics and evaluation which develop this is model. thank you, professor, for being here. and now you project 147,000 deaths by august. what is driving the new projections. >> simply it is increases mobility and relaxation of social distancing in some states. so states are at different phases right now when it comes to how much the virus is spreading and some are relaxing measures prematurely and we're seeing increase in mobility and the virus is circulating which means more cases unfortunately and more deaths. >> and when you look at the model, and you break it down by state, some states are looking at higher death projections right now and then i want to look at the lower in a second. but if you look at new york, massachusetts and north carolina, they're looking at higher death projections than in the last report. people might be surprised by north carolina as it really hasn't been seen as a hot spot,
if you will. what is going on in north carolina in particular? >> so north carolina, what you're seeing right now is the effect of increased detection of cases going on in north carolina and the relaxation of some of the social distancing. so they are relaxing the social distancing at a time where the case of numbers are going up. so that would lead to expectation, of course, they will have more cases and unfortunately more deaths in north carolina. >> yeah. and now on the other hand you have states like georgia and fli -- and indiana looking at a decrease in projects deathed. what is going on there. >> so georgia, a very good example, the projection between north carolina and georgia is different. georgia has seen a steady number of cases on a regular basis. remember they opened up about two weeks ago so we see the impact of that increase in mobility right now in the coming days because the incubation period is 14 days. but the fact that they have declined mobility for a longer
time we're seeing a leveling of cases and hoping that will be maintained in one condition, if the people in georgia, when they go out right now and they're increasing the mobility, that doing it safely by wearing a mask and by staying away from each other and keeping the safe distance. >> so in general as we have followed every update from your studies and your reports, it seems that the big change is that did you early on as a group expect the country, the nation, states and localities to stay home longer until there was more of a decrease or leveling off in deaths before they went out? is that what we're seeing here? just earlier on you thought people would abide by the guidelines put forth by the cdc in a more strict way that what we're really seeing happening. >> exactly. that is a very good poin, kate. early on when we projected mortality we assumed everybody
would keep the social distancing measures until the end of may and that the states will not implement them will do so in one week and as you have seep our numbers were coming down. then when states started relaxing measures prematurely and mobility started increasing even before the relaxation because people started anticipating a change in the stated policy and they started moving around. so we have seen right now an increase in cases in some places and we are projecting, unfortunately for the country, more mortality by august 4th. >> these projections, these death projections, they're only through august. why is that, professor? >> reporte . >> because right now we don't have the information past august 4th. we'll up date our models in the long run but everybody else is expected unfortunately a second wave of the virus and we are concerned that the second wave will come at the same time as the flu season and you know from
past the flu season overwhelmed our hospitals sometimes and now we have covid-19 and flu season. and we have to be very careful right now. that is why the concern we need to bring the level of sick lation in every state very low so we don't have high level of virus circulating when it comes back for the second wave. >> and i think smsing th-- that something that is important. your assumptions, you're not assuming that come august that is going to be the peak of deaths and it is all going to be gone. that is just the material that you have to work with right now so people need to understand 147,000, that is not all of 2020 or the life span of this virus at all. >> indeed. this is not -- we're not out of danger. we're estimated 147,000 by august 4th. this virus will be with us for a long time until we have a vaccine or a superdrug that will take care of it. >> professor thank you for your
work. appreciate it. thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. a new warning just in fromland world health organization. the top official now saying the coronavirus may never go away. elizabeth cohen is here and watching this and tracking this. elizabeth, translate this, pars this for me, what is the health organization really saying here. >> this is so sobering that it makes sense when you think about it. viruses typically don't just disappear, especially one like this one that has become so widespread. when you think about measles, didn't go away as we learned last year, it is still here that just most of us have been vaccinated against it. so this virus, until we get a vaccine, it appears it will hang around for a while. let's take a listen to what this w.h.o. official had to say. >> this virus may become just another endemic virus in our
community and hiv has not gone away and i'm not comparing the two diseases but i think it is important to be realistic and i don't think anyone could predict if or whether this disease will disappear. >> reporter: i think that word "realistic" is important and if we decide as a society how much we're going to go out and mix with other people, let's be realistic this virus is not going to disappear and we'll deal with this until we get a vaccine. >> everybody needs to keep that in mind as we plan for life to be quite honest. you also have new reporting, elizabeth, on u.s. vaccine makers considering a move that is considered really quite unprecedented. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, so this is an unprecedented situation where we are trying to get not just a vaccine but several all at once very quickly and i'm told that vaccine makers and the governor are considering doing something that hasn't been done before in this country which is let's all
get together and do one big trial. to vaccine companies that would compete would get together and do one big trial and have one controlled group because part of the trial is that youinock late or inject people with nothing with a placebo to see how that compares to those who have the vaccine and if you do it together you only have one group and that saves time and money. so this is being considered. it tells you how different thisvithi this -- this situation is from other situations. >> thanks, elizabeth. one of the largest university systems in the country and just canceled in-person classes for hundreds of thousands student this is fall. why did they make this call and will others follow suit. and the biggest jump in grocery store prices in almost 50 years. what you need to know. s, and private clouds, and hybrid clouds- things can get a bit cloudy for you. but now, there's the dell technologies cloud,
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it's a question on every parent and student's mind. will students go back to class in the fall. will college campuses be bringing students back in the fall. the vast majority of schools from k to 12 to higher education are still trying to figure out a way to make this work. but the nations largest four-year public university system just made the call. and the answer is no. the california state university system announcing it will keep the majority of their classes off campus and online. that is almost half a million students across 23 campuses. this is the first major university system to make such a decision. will more join? joining me now is president of cal state university fullerton fram vergy, thank you for being here. >> glad to be with you, kate. >> thank you. cal state fullerton made this call earlier back in april. and now the entire cal state
system is with you. what was the determining factor? what did this come down to? >> well, it comes down to health and safety of our faculty and our students and our staff. our two north stars if you will are keeping our community safe and providing inclusive excellent education for our students and we're looking for the balance to continue to do both. the safest thing to do would be just shut everything down but then students wouldn't progress to graduation, wouldn't get their education. so we're looking for that balance. >> was it one thing in particular, was it you just couldn't figure out a way to keep students socially distanced and in a classroom or in a residence hall, what was it that couldn't be overcome just because of the way that what is required and the way colleges are set up. >> well, you have to imagine that cal state fullerton is the
largest of the csu's and we have 40,000 students and 5,000 faculty on campus. so we have a lot of people on campus in an urban setting so we have limited space. we want to make sure that we could practice social distancing, physical distancing for our students that they have the proper protective equipment to protect them and their health and safety. the density, if we were just to bring everybody back, would be unsafe from our perspective. and that is really important to be sure that we limit the access or the exposure to potentially to the virus. >> why make the call in april and may? do you not think -- i don't know, that there is a way that progress could be made in three months that would make you feel any differently? >> well, i'll answer that two ways. first of all, it is important to know that the university will be open. we will be serving our students.
so we didn't make a call to achilles the university. we made a call to provide our courses virtually. ch and if you look into the future and listen to the epidemiology and the experts in this area and as your last guest just mentioned we're expecting a large wave in august and much larger wave in october, november. we just pivoted from face-to-face instruction to virtual instruction literally on the dime. we want to make sure that we can be careful to protect our students and it is much easier to move from virtual to physical face-to-face instruction if it becomes safe and to phase that in than it is start face-to-face and have to move to virtual quickly. that is a potential for disaster. >> that is a great point. what do you need to see happen, what needs to happen for you, for cal state fullerton or the
system, the entire system, to feel comfortable for more students to be back for in-person classrooms? is it anything short of a vaccine? >> well it won't surprise you that my -- what i need to see is reflective of what the cdc needs to see, our state department of health and our health experts which is a continuing reduction in the number of coronavirus cases that are reported in california and especially in southern california, those numbers are still increasing not decreasing. a decrease in the number of deaths as well. hopefully none. and those numbers are still increasing in southern california. we would also have to have a much more vigorous ability to test and trace and when you have 40,000 students on campus and a very porous campus where there are thousands of entry points on to campus it is hard to test and trace. so short of a vaccine we're
going to be living with a virus for a long time to come. as our chancellor said, you can't change the biology so what we're trying to do is work within that biology to provide the best protection for our students. and as things become better, as the number of cases drop, as we increase our expertise in being able to assure physical distancing and have the appropriate protective equipment and sanitation and sanitizing more and more students and more faculty will be brought back on to campus. >> i think everyone respects someone who is following the science. president vergy, that is for sure and letting science lead the way. in general, do you think -- what do you say to students who are concerned they're not getting as good of an education, that college experience is not the same if they can't be in classes together. >> well, the first thing i would say to students is the same thing i would say to my faculty, staff and my community, which is
i understand not only that virtual learning may not at first seem the equivalent to face-to-face learning but more importantly that you are under stress in this pandemic right now. and i appreciate and feel for and empathize with the stress that you are under. i want to assure that you, as i said, we pivoted to virtual instruction in a matter of days so we went from all face-to-face instruction to all virtual instruction in a matter of days. we've work -- we've been working hard to make that instruction vibrant and engaging for the students and to measure the outcomes to make sure that we do provide what is appropriate. but we will continue -- to provide that equipment the best we can. i think i might have lost you. >> no, i think we still have. but president vergy, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. and thank you for what you're
doing. we'll check back in. just into cnn, a new study raising questions about a coronavirus test used by the white house and touted by the white house. cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is back with us. elizabeth, what is this? >> so even before the study there were other studies that called into question the accuracy of this abbott test, the one that the white house is using on its staffers, sometimes daily, to make sure they don't infect each other or the president. and what they found was that when they compared it to another test, that the abbott test missed half of the positive specimens, they said they were negative. and according to this study it looks like they know they're positive because the other test said they were positive and the people had symptoms of covid-19. so one doctor i talked to and infectious disease specialist said maybe it is time to look again and see if there is another test to use. the advantage of the abbott test
is that it is fast, it is 15 minutes and portable and easy to carry around and convenient but doctors told me you sacrifice credibility. >> if you can't trust the test results, where does that leave you, at square one. thanks, elizabeth. still ahead for us. the cdc is set to issue a new warning about the coronavirus and children. what doctors and parents now need to keep an eye out for. ep. so, no more tossing and turning. because only tempur-pedic adapts and responds to your body... ...so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. during the tempur-pedic summer of sleep, all tempur-pedic mattresses are on sale! i got up, i put make up on. i have jeans on, who is she? family run! sometimes you like modify a recipe and it's so good! your girl, is still losing. ♪ join now, pay later. get your first three months free!
a new alert coming from the cdc. cnn has learned the agency is preparing to warn doctors across country to keep an eye out of the inflammatory syndrome affecting children that believed to be linked to the coronavirus. and reported -- and also asking them to report cases to local and state health departments when they do see them. doctors in the united states started reporting the findings weeks ago but now new york is reporting that it is investigating more than a hundred possible cases just as one example. joining me now is dr. jeffrey
burns from boston children's hospital and has a panel of pediatricians working to get to the bottom of this. thank you for coming in. you brought together a group of very smart minds to look into this. what is the consensus right now? >> well, kate, if i could, let me break out, because this is confusing, the infection and its impact on children versus what we think this inflammatory syndrome means. and it's i think people have been reading, one of the bright spots in the pandemic is that covid-19 has not been producing critical illness in children frequently. it is true that some children are becoming critically ill from covid-19 and some have died. but most are able to use their white cells, what we call an immune response to really fight off the infection in a way that if it worked for adults, we would not be in this terrible pandemic and their white cells and how they fight it off are clues on how to develop a vaccine and treatments.
now this inflammatory syndrome that people have been talking about the last several weeks, we believe the working position is that it is the white cells, the immune response, that successfully fought off an infection perhaps four to six weeks ago such as their parents weren't even aware they were ill but now four to six weeks later, the leading thought is that it's their own immune response, the white cells that are accelerating and causing the fever and the imflamation in the children. >> and i think that is something that is very striking is what you're talking about here this post viral response is how i heard you say it. so they've had -- they've had covid and may not have known it, even parents m not have known it considering how children have responded, and then weeks later this happens. could you explain that more.
>> we've known about a post-viral syndrome and its ability to cause illness for decades. other viruses are known to do this. what we didn't know was whether covid would do this because as we all know covid-19 has only been present in the human population for six months. but from the data that we have so far, it would appear that this is a post-viral syndrome. so it is important to emphasize the children who have this inflammatory syndrome, they're not actively shedding virus and being infected, rather it is likely that they completely fought off the virus and that this is their white cells causing inflammation. now what makes this a little more confusing is the clinical picture of what the child looks like can take many forms. the one constant in a way is fever. they have a fever greater than
38 degrees or 100.4 or 38 degrees sent grade but that they could have rash or abdominal discomfort or pain. and the important thing for parents is to remember is it doesn't come on quickly. you don't have to see this right away and rush to the hospital. it comes on gradually. so parents could see it. that their child has a fever and is persistent over a day and see that their child is not responding well as if they had influenza and so parents do have the tools to recognize this. it is not subtle. you'll know that your child is not well. and then with this alert to the conditions throughout the country, bring the child to the pediatrician, pediatricians will be aware of this, they're looking for other causes of fever in the child, all of the same causes back in may of 2019, a year ago, what were the things that caused fever in the child
then, those have to be considered right now. but if they don't find those causes, then they know to look for this and transfer the child or have the child be seen at a major children's hospital where experts in immunology and infectious disease and cardiology and critical care could take a look at the child and make sure we understand what is going on. >> and thank god for you and your work and what you're doing on a daily basis. thank you, dr. burns. >> thank you, kate. >> appreciate it. still ahead for us, sticker shock at the supermarket. the cost of groceries seeing the biggest monthly jump in nearly 50 years at a time when people need that the least. when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice
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if you've been to the supermarket you've likely noticed grocery prices are soaring when it comes to staples like egg, meat and serial and the biggest increase since 1974. joining me now is business anchor julia chatterley. with prices falling everywhere else, what is the jump in the at grocery store. >> this eye popping price is at worst possible time, there have a couple of things going on in terms of the monthly jump. it is hard if you are trying to feed meat eaters. beef and pork hit records and this translating if you look at that more than 4% rise for egg, meat and fish.
16% rise for egg prices in the month of april but as you could see it is broad based. two things, more demand, less supply. we saw the supply chain issues at meat processing plants. they had work safety issues that meant less supply on grocery shelves but our demand has changed. we're cooking more at home and grocery stores with all of our shopping couldn't catch up. we will see supply chains adjust but it doesn't happen that quickly. we're stuck i -- with thee higher prices for a while and when one in five households are suffering from food inequality. when it couldn't be worse. >> and the federal reserve chairman offered up a devastating stat that households less than $40,000 lost their job in march. could you tell us about what he's warning. >> what he's saying is that the pain of the crisis that we're seeing is being felt by a lot of people but it is hitting the
lowest income families the hardest and i think that statistic is for everybody was just heartbreaking quite frankly. he also pointed to the length of the recovery. he basically echoed i think what dr. fauci said yesterday and that is a safe reopening of an economy is going to be a slower one as we try to contain case outbreaks. that just extends the pain for households like this. he spoke about this directly. listen in. >> the burden has fallen most heavily on those least able to bear it. the scope and speed of this downturn are without modern precedent, significantly worse than any recession since world war ii. we're seeing a severe decline in economic activity and employment and already the job gains of the last decade have been erased. >> the case of family foundation said today that 27 million
americans may have lost employer based health insurance and less than half qualify for medicaid. these are real people being impacted. it was a warning from jay powell and a call to action and saying congress needs to do more. they do. >> and time is of the essence. good to see you. thank you. coming up, nursing homes has been the site of many outbreaks but today the florida governor said he's trying to find a way to allow visitors back inside. how can it be done safely? chances are you know us.
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into nursing homes in the state. saying that it is necessary in order to count the psychological toll that isolation has taken on residents in long-term care facilities but other states like georgia are focusing on-ramping up testing and one-third of all coronavirus deaths in the country are connected to long-term care facilities. more than 28,000 people. joining me now is mark parkinson, president and ceo of the american health care association which represents over 13,000 long-term care facilities. it is good to have you back. on what the florida governor is working on, this plan to allow visitors back into nursing homes, what do you think of that? do you think they could do that safely right now? >> i don't. the thing that make this is virus so incredibly dangerous is that people could contract it and have absolutely no symptoms. in fact that is what caused this problem to begin with. the fact that in january, february and early march, there
were tens of thousands of people in the country that were running around having the virus and showing no symptoms. they visited nursing homes, many of them worked in nursing homes, some of them sold goods to nursing homes and unwittingly spread the virus. it is a mistake to let folks back into buildings until we could test them and make darn inevitably some of them are going to have the virus and spread it. >> testing is something you have been kind of sounding the alarm on for a very long time, honestly, since away started talking about this, which feels like a million years ago but was just in march when we started this conversation. the white house is pushing to ramp up testing in nursing homes over the next two weeks. i want to get your gauge, how many nursing homes right now have enough testing so residents
and workers can be safe. >> first of all, we can't solve this problem until we test, we don't know what residents have it without symptoms and what staff members have it without symptoms and are spreading it to other people. so far 25% of all nursing home residents have been tested, 5% has been posted, which doesn't sound like a very high percentage until you learn that a good percentage of those nursing home residents who test positive end up dying. we need to get them tested not just once but on a regular schedule so we know exactly what's going on in the building. until then, we won't be able to beat this. we need to ramp it up. >> do you see good news for that on the horizon anytime soon, though? >> i do. the availability of tests continues to expand. so far in the country we've tested about 10 million people. but we're developing the
capabilities to test literally millions every week. and that's what it's going to take until we get to a vaccine. so we've gone from almost no tests available at all, nursing homes either getting none or maybe two or three, to where we are right now, where we're getting, you know, a more robust supply. we will get to the point, i think in the next month or two, where there are millions of tests available every week. but until we get to that point, again, i think it would be a mistake to open the facilities up to outside folks. >> when i saw that statistic which "the new york times" is reporting, 1the percentage of people who have died who have been residents of nursing homes, that's just crushing. for those families who have a loved one in a long term care facility, what is your message to them right now? >> i agree with you, it has been devastating. as a person myself who spent my
entire career taking care of residents and all the providers who spent their entire lives taking care of residents, to see what's happening to these residents, to their family members, to the staffs, have been absolutely devastating. our hearts go out to each and every one of you. please be assured that we have folks who have worked 60 days in a row, double shifts. they're not going to abandon these facilities, they'll do everything they can to keep your loved ones safe. if we can get the resources we need, we can make this better. there are literally tens of thousands of people that have recovered from covid in nursing homes. that's an a promising thing that's encouraging. we need more positive stories like that. and we're not going to quit until we're able to do that. >> mark, thank you very much, i really appreciate it. ahead for us, russia is reporting 10,000 cases per day, it now has the second most infections of any country in the world. what's behind in huge rise in cases and can the government get control of it at this point?
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are you awarussia now has t highest number of coronavirus cases in the world, after recording 10,000 new infections for the 11th day in a row. cnn senior correspondent matthew chance is with us now. matthew, what can you tell us about this sharp increase in russia, what's going on? >> reporter: it's been
increasing really exponentially for the past 11 days. we say there's been 11 consecutive days of more than 10,000 people confirmed with the virus. the russian government says they're stepping up the testing program and people are come to light who hadn't been registered in the official statistics. the suspicion is that russia at the start of this crisis underplayed the extent and pervasiveness of the virus in the country. they said it was all under control. they didn't take the measures they perhaps in retrospect should have taken, and now they're paying the price. and so the general acknowledgement is, what we do know is, the general acknowledgement is the figures are going to get much, much higher. even the mayor of moscow says he believes in his city alone, there are probably 300,000 people infected with the virus. so the upside on those figures is extremely grim indeed for russia, kate. >> absolutely. and the virus has also now reached vladimir putin's inner
circle. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: there's been a couple of people in the inner circle who have been affected. the prime minister a couple of weeks ago was hospitalized. but yesterday economy tri pdmite right-hand man of vladimir putin, his spokesman, you don't see putin anywhere without peskov either at home or abroad. the fact that he's been hospitalized poses questions about what's the health of vladimir putin like. peskov before he went into the hospital said, i haven't had a face-to-face meeting with president putin for at least a month. he tried to reassure the public. but it's got to make you wonder, has president putin been effectively shielded from all the people around him, including his spokesman and the prime minister as well, who now have coronavirus and have been hospitalized in russia. >> it really doesn't get much closer than peskov to vladimir putin. that is for darned sure. matthew, real quick, do we know the testing, like is vladimir putin getting tested on a
regular basis? is that something they're divulging? >> reporter: yeah, he's being tested all the time, so are the people all around him. he's also not working out of his normal kremlin, he's working out of his home office, usually by videoconference, although he having some face-to-face meetings, kate. >> matthew, thank you so much, really appreciate it. thank you so much for joining us, i'm kate bolduan. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. this afternoon an official at the world health organization said the coronavirus may never go away, it may simply join the coronaviruses that kill people every year. plus a dire economic warning coming from the federal reserve chairman today, calling the pandemic, quote, the biggest shock the economy has felt in modern times, unquote, predicting a multiyear recession
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