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states. the sea of red on our trend map gets bigger and bigger every day. in texas, refrigerated trailers are arriving to handle the overflow in morgues. florida set a new record of deaths in a single day. there is no shortage of statistics to prove this pandemic is exploding here in the united states. but president trump appears determined to publicly ignore those facts and often ignore the advice of his own health experts. amid tension with dr. anthony fauci, we're told the president finally spoke with him yesterday for the first time in over a month. let's go to our national correspondent erica hill. erica, several states are reporting record deaths today. >> reporter: yes, and we know, wolf, those numbers don't lie. and they're not just numbers. each one of those is a person, is a loved one who has lost their life to this virus. texas, florida, and south
carolina reporting record high deaths just today, as we look across the country. we see deaths are rising in a number of states along with hospitalizations and a good chunk of the country is going in the wrong direction. confirmed cases in the state of florida, more than 315,000. now outpacing france and china combined. miami's hospitals are at 95% capacity. icu beds pushed to the limit. >> you cannot allow your hospital system to get overwhelmed because what will happen is what happened unfortunately in new york where people were literally dying in the hallways. >> reporter: as cases surge in georgia, governor brian kemp banning local officials from mandating masks. >> i'm deeply frustrated today. we believe our local orders can stand and so we're going to fight this. >> reporter: arkansas and colorado adding mask mandates today. at least 38 states now require face coverings in public.
target, cvs, and publix the latest businesses to require them for customers nationwide. >> the science at this point is very clear. wearing a mask can reduce your chance of transmitting covid and acquiring it five times. >> reporter: 39 states are now moving in the wrong direction. 16 are reporting record hospitalizations. all but two of those seeing a rise in deaths. >> even places that think they're doing quite well right now, they're not. >> reporter: in texas, austin's convention center and this laredo hotel now being prepped for non-icu covid-19 patients. two counties are sharing a refrigerated trailer as morgues there reach capacity. >> these individuals are family members and friends. >> reporter: new analysis from the cdc finds the travel bans for china and europe came too late, especially for new york city. the virus was already here. the northeast hit hard at the start, has been holding steady over the past month.
new cases in the midwest declining in mid-june, have now more than doubled. the west is seeing a similar spike while the south has exploded, more than tripling its daily case count. >> unlike other countries, we never got covid-19 under control here. basically we gave up. >> reporter: here in new york city, which is set to move into phase iv of reopening on monday, governor andrew cuomo has made clear that phase iv in new york city will not include indoor spaces. he also talked today about cracking down on bars, restaurants within the state of new york, saying he's enforcing a three strikes and you're closed rule because of complaints that have been lodged about a lack of social distancing and adhering to his reopening guidelines. the governor saying, again, he's concerned about what he's seeing in other states as they've reopened, what's happened with indoor spaces there. wolf, this is a reminder why he
these mandatory 14-day quarantines for people coming from more than 20 states. >> so significant. already, erica, thank you very much, erica hill reporting. now to the white house where officials are struggling to defend the president's coronavirus response amid growing criticism, even among some republicans. let's go to our chief white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, as the president tries to talk about other things besides the pandemic, dr. fauci is speaking out once again today. >> reporter: he certainly is, wolf. president trump just wrapped up yet another campaign style event on the south lawn of the white house. he's concentrating on winning reelection. the president finally spoke with dr. anthony fauci yesterday, sources tell us. in a new interview with facebook happening right now, fauci offered up straight talk on the virus. he warned that racing ahead to reopen states is, quote, perilous.
standing in between pickup trucks on the south lawn of the white house, president trump staged yet another photo opportunity that was unrelated to the coronavirus. that included only a brief mention of his response to covid-19. >> my administration has also eliminated massive regulatory barriers in our battle against the china virus. >> reporter: some of the president's fellow republicans say that's the been the problem all along, in a scathing op-ed in "the washington post," maryland's gop governor laid into the president's handling of the virus, writing, waiting around for the president was hopeless. if we waited any longer, we would be condemning our own citizens to suffering and death, which is how the united states ended up with such a patchwork response. the white house fired back, accusing hogan, who had coronavirus tests shipped into his state from south korea, of being two-faced be. >> it stands in stark contrast to what he said on march 19 where he praised the great communication that the president
has had with governors. >> reporter: press secretary kayleigh mcenany defended the president's record on the pandemic as well as mr. trump's drive to reopen schools, first saying the science should not get in the way of sending children back to classrooms. >> when he says "open," he means open in full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school. the science should not stand in the way of this. >> reporter: but mcenany then said mr. trump's position is supported by science, citing a study that says risk to children is low. but it's still unclear whether students would infect parents and teachers. democrats say it's just the opposite. >> serving his -- observing his behavior, i have concluded that he is like the man who refuses to ask for directions. all of the answers are there.
the scientists have the answers. >> reporter: on wednesday, the president spoke with dr. anthony fauci, the first time in weeks. fauci tells "in style" magazine, "sometimes you say things that are not widely accepted in the white house and that's just a fact of life." the latest poll show the public is rejecting the president's record on the virus, with joe biden holding a commanding lead, with most people saying they don't trust the president on covid-19 but they do trust dr. fauci, who seems to get that. >> you've got to do it correct me. you can't jump over steps, which is very perilous when you think about rebound. and the proof of the pudding is, look what's happened. there really is no reason why we're having 40, 50, 60,000, other than the fact that we're not doing something correctly. >> reporter: the trump administration briefly removed covid-19 data coming in from hospitals that's accessible on the website for the centers for
disease control, data that included hospital bed occupancy, staffing, and personal protective equipment supply figures. while the data was later restored, the white house denied it's hiding anything. >> no one is taking access or data away from the cdc. this is all about getting more data out there, not less data, and ensuring in particular that our doctors get that daily data. >> reporter: the president responded to the turmoil by demoting campaign manager brad parscale, replacing him with political adviser bill stepien. parscale found himself in hot water after mr. trump's disappointing rally in oklahoma where thousands of seats went empty and mr. trump said he would like to see less testing for the virus. >> so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> reporter: as for dr. fauci, some trump advisers appear to be getting the message that the infectious diseases expert is more trusted than the president. one senior trump adviser told me some of the latest polling has gotten their attention adding, quote, i think when over 60% of the public trusts fauci on covid-19, that should be taken in consideration.
but wolf, no sign yet that the white house is ready to take the muzzle off of dr. fauci when it comes to national tv interviews, he's continuing to do interviews like the one he did on facebook today. in georgetown a couple of days ago, fauci says he still feels like he's getting his message out, just not the way he would like, wolf. >> we would welcome him, obviously, back on "the situation room" any time. jim, thank you very much. joining us now, dr. christopher murray over at the university of washington and dr. ashish jha, director of the harvard global health institute. dr. jha, hospitalizations in the u.s. are rising sharply right now. we'll put the graph on the screen. we're almost back to the peak we saw in april. what does that indicate to you about how serious this situation is right now? >> wolf, thank you for having me on. the situation is pretty serious, wolf. you have to remember that the peak that we had last time was
weeks after we shut things down. there is always a lag between when we act and when the virus peaks. if we're hitting these numbers now and we're not shut down, and i believe the states in the south, most of them are still not taking this seriously, my expectation is that those numbers will continue to claim for days and weeks ahead. >> that's so worrisome. dr. murray, in just over a week, just over a week, the u.s. has seen more than half a million new confirmed coronavirus cases for a total of 3.5 million cases right now. it's not just cases and hospitalizations that are up but deaths as well, as some parts of texas and arizona are running out of room in the morgues that they have. what does that tell you, dr. murray, about the next few weeks and months? >> well, wolf, we expect death tolls will continue to rise. there was the huge surge in cases in the last two to three weeks. finally we're now seeing that turned into a surge in deaths,
not just in florida, texas, arizona, california, but it's spreading into a number of other states. so, very concerning. that's why our forecasts through to november 1 are up. we're up to expecting 224,000 deaths in the u.s. over that time frame. >> 224,000 deaths by november 1. and right now it's 138,000 deaths. so thousands, thousands of americans are going to be dying unless something dramatic happens over the next few weeks and months. dr. murray, this is a pretty ominous -- it's getting worse right now, based on your projection. >> it certainly is. and there's nothing yet that's happening that's going to put the brakes on it, as dr. jha just said. it takes about three weeks from the time you have really strict measures to, you know, really break transmission and bring
that peak down. unless we see more action, mask mandates everywhere, people being more careful, closing restaurants, closing bars, and some of those measures, it will just progressively get worse. >> nearly a thousand americans died just yesterday from coronavirus. you know, dr. jha, a new study from the centers for disease control finds 96% of coronavirus patients had either a fever, a cough, or shortness of breath, and about 45% experience all three of those symptoms. so how can this data help us? and we hope it can, slow down the transmission of this deadly virus. >> yes, so those data are really intriguing and interesting and reminds us that primarily this is a respiratory virus. it shows up in many ways the way the influenza virus does, other respiratory viruses do. what's critical out of that, wolf, it says to people if you have any of those symptoms, you don't have to have them all, but
if you have any of those symptoms, you absolutely need to go get tested. you need to keep yourself quarantined. you've got to break the chain of the transmission, that this is not some esoteric set of symptoms that's going to get people, it's the classic stuff of fever, cough, and shortness of breath. >> and dr. murray, i want to get back to your new model which projects 224,000 americans will die from this virus by november 1. just a week or so ago, your previous forecast projected just over 208,000 americans would die by november 1. so what contributed specifically to this dramatic increase, thousands of additional americans dying? >> for a long time, wolf, cases were shooting up. florida went up in cases tenfold, yet we didn't see deaths go up. we saw a small increase in hospitalizations. and, you know, it could have gone one of two ways.
if that transmission out there is mostly in young people, much smaller percentage go to hospital, much smaller percentage die, maybe that huge surge of transmission wasn't going to translate into a lot of deaths. now the signal is clear that we're seeing a surge in hospitalizations and deaths. and that's what the models are picking up on. and with, you know, nothing in sight to put the brakes on that, it will continue to go unless we change course. >> we've got to change course to save lives. it's that critical. dr. murray, dr. jha, to both of you, thanks for joining us, thanks for all the important work you're doing. just ahead, a republican governor now calls president trump's pandemic response hopeless. is this the president in denial? plus the epidemiologist leading california's contact tracing effort sounds the alarm. we'll talk about it with the san francisco mayor, london breed. much more of our special coverage coming up in "the situation room." are you a christian author with
a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! we're following all the breaking news on the coronavirus crisis as infections, hospitalizations, and deaths soar at a terrifying rate. tonight dr. anthony fauci is issuing a new warning to states about the dangers of easing restrictions too quickly. >> you've got to do it correctly. you can't jump over steps, which is very perilous when you think about rebound. and the proof of the pudding is, look what's happened. there really is no reason why we're having 40, 50, 60,000 other than the fact that we're not doing something correctly. >> let's bring in chief political analyst gloria borger and cnn senior political commentator david axelrod.
gloria, the virus is running rampant through much of the country right now but you would have no idea of that based on president trump's behavior. is he in denial about this crisis? >> he's living in an alternate universe because the real world doesn't fit his political narrative. he has to be saying we're doing a great job, the virus is on the way out, there isn't more infection, there's just a lot of testing, and we all know, and the doctors and scientists have told us that that is not the case. so what's worse than his denial, wolf, is his inability or unwillingness to deal with the problem at hand. it's almost as if he's paralyzed, stuck in 2016, trying the same old same old campaign tactics of division that we heard in 2016. it certainly worked then. but the country has changed. the country is in the middle of a very dangerous pandemic. and the president is standing there without confronting the
issue any more, hoping that everyone will believe him when he says it's going great. >> but these numbers clearly don't lie. >> right. of course. >> david, the republican governor of maryland, larry hogan, has written an article today in "the washington post." among other things, this is the republican governor writing, waiting around for the president's response was hopeless. if we delayed any longer, we would be condemning more of our citizens to suffering and death. has the president, david, essentially given up his duties to keep americans safe right now because there could be a national program, a national plan that he gets behind, he's reluctant to do so. >> well, in fact, if you look at other countries that have more successfully navigated this, it's because they have a national plan, and their naturally leaders were willing to be truthful with their citizens about what sacrifices were necessary and what steps needed to be taken.
the president never has gone down that road and has basically defaulted to the governors. and then he has misled governors. you see many of the states where we have eruptions now are led by governors who followed his advice on masks and other provisions. i've said before that we have this paradoxical situation where we have a president of the united states in charge of a government that is trying to fight the virus who is also leading the resistance to that government's directives. and that has created an enormous problem in states like florida and arizona and texas. and yet he seems not to be moving on this. you know, even if you want to look at it in crass political terms, the president is suffering because of his lack of leadership on this issue. he has ratings in the low 30s on this issue. and his overall standing and his
standing relative to joe biden has deteriorated during this period. and yet he doesn't seem to be willing to change course. so it's a tragedy, but it's also a political puzzle as to why he would continue down this road. >> the new polls show his job approval number in the low 30s. gloria, the president's standing in a lot of other polls is being impacted specifically by his handling or mishandling of the pandemic. in response he's now demoted his campaign manager. but is that going to really make any difference at all when the president continues to ignore the reality of this coronavirus pandemic? >> no, it's all of the same piece, following on what david just said, this is a president who is kind of paralyzed here. and he can't figure out that what he would need to do to increase his standing is to actually deal with this virus, wear a mask very often, tell people to wear masks, and try and get this under control.
so it's not the campaign manager, wolf, it's the candidate. and he of course will refuse to see that. and there are very few people, if any, who can tell him that. but if you look at those poll numbers, i was looking at one astonishing number from this week which effectively said that 60% of the american public do not believe that the president is actually hurting getting the pandemic under control. this is not about how he's managing it. they believe he's actively hurting things. so that is a leadership failure on any level, wolf. and he just doesn't see it. >> gloria borger, david axelrod, thank you very much. ahead, the battle over masks between the atlanta mayor and the georgia governor has escalated big time with a lawsuit. and i'll speak with the san francisco mayor london breed about the crisis in california and how her city is coping. what i'm worried about
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we're back with breaking news on the huge toll the coronavirus pandemic is taking on this country right now with more than 138,000 deaths and more than 3.5 million people infected so far. we have breaking news out of one of the states hardest hit right now. our national correspondent dianne gallagher is in georgia for us.
dianne, the state's governor is banning cities and counties in georgia from ordering people to use masks. >> reporter: that's right, wolf, within the past hour here the governor brian kemp administration filed a lawsuit against atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms over the city's covid-19 restrictions, including the city's mask mandate, claiming that it violates his executive order. now, that's an executive order that he extended through the end of the month just yesterday. and he included some brand-new language yesterday where he explicitly prohibited any local government from enacting any sort of mandate of facings coverings or masks within their county or city. now, chris carr, the attorney general of georgia, said about the lawsuit, quote, the state of georgia continues to urge citizens to wear masks. the lawsuit is about the rule of
law. the city of atlanta cannot continue to knowingly enter orders that are unenforceable and void. here is the thing, though. it's not just the city of atlanta. at least a dozen other counties and cities across the state of georgia have mask mandates. in fact two other mayors said just today, athens and savannah, that they plan to continue their mask mandates because of two reasons, the same as mayor keisha lance bottoms, safety and science. and what makes this all even more perplexing is that governor brian kemp is not an anti-masker. he had one on earlier in marietta, everyone around him had them on. two weeks ago when he was flying around the state on his "mask up" tour to encourage people to wear masks, numbers were better than they were today. georgia has been experiencing a record number of hospitalizations and deaths from covid-19. it's perplexing why it's come to
this. but according to the governor, the mayor of atlanta is not adhering to his order, wolf, and they're going to take legal action. >> wearing masks will save lives, period. dianne gallagher, thank you very much. let's go to florida, randi kaye is on the scene. randi, the state recorded a record of 156 deaths as new cases are soaring right now. are hospitals right now able to keep up with the surge? >> reporter: wolf, the numbers are certainly concerning. 14,000 new cases just in the last 24 hours, so now the state is hovering at about 315,000 cases and 4,600 residents here have now died. so the numbers, as you said, are certainly going up. if you do look at those hospitalizations, now 9,100 people or so hospitalized in the state of florida. that's up 7,000 from when the state first started releasing
that information. 49 hospitals, i just checked this before i came on air with you, 49 hospitals marking zero capacity for icu beds, so not a single icu bed. in the county of miami-dade, just south of here where i am, that entire county, wolf, is without icu beds. so now they are converting regular rooms to icu rooms, to icu beds, adding in that extra machinery, that negative pressure machine that they would need. in miami-dade they have a positivity rate of 29%. they're looking to get that town to at least 10%, maybe even single digits. but it's been hovering in the high 20s for weeks now. one infectious disease expert said that miami now is like wuhan was six months ago. and jackson health, the largest hospital in miami-dade, is saying they're trying to get people in and out of there as quickly as they can if it's safe for the patients to leave, they're trying to sort of usher them through there. and they also say that they are not taking any more patients unless the need is urgent, wolf. >> all right, thanks very much,
randi kaye in florida for us. let's go from florida to california. we're joined by the mayor of san francisco, london breed. mayor breed, thank you so much for joining us. as you know, during the last seven days california led the nation in recorded deaths. how did your state go from leading the nation in terms of its response to this virus to now leading the nation in deaths? >> well, it's been really unfortunate. i think that it has a lot to do with many of the large gatherings that continue to take place all over the state. you know we've gradually reopened in san francisco, and we saw a slight surge, although we're still doing okay. what we're finding in the numbers demonstrates that our latino workforce are the ones being infected in higher numbers, as well as people who are participating in large gatherings. so i think that people are tired of the virus but the virus isn't
tired of us. the fact is we can't get complacent. that has had a lot to do with what we're seeing. >> i know you're seeing a significant increase in cases in san francisco, it could be a whole lot worse but still an increase. you paused reopening plans. but if the cases continue to rise as they are now, will you consider reinstituting restrictions, possibly returning to a stay-at-home order? >> well, we are taking that into consideration. and we are trying to reiterate to the public, because especially for parents who want their kids to return to schools, that we need people to follow the order and to wear their mask. we need people to avoid large gatherings and to continue to wash your hands and to respect social distancing, because what this means is, we may have to make hard decisions to close businesses that we've already allowed to reopen if things continue in this way. but we do see our hospital rate continues to be fairly low. we do see the number of deaths
continue to be fairly low. we're at 51 here in san francisco. but we still see the number of new cases continue to rise. and that is cause of concern. our reproductive rate is at 1.3. we need it to get to 1 and below in order to make sure that we're able to continue to reopen. >> will students in san francisco, mayor, be returning to in-class school in the fall? how is your city approaching this critically important decision? >> well, right now, the school district has announced that they want parents to prepare for distance learning. and they're going to need to start the fall semester at home. and that has a lot to do with, of course, concerns around health and safety. and we want to make sure we're able to keep the students safe. we want to keep the teachers safe. but right now, based on with a we've seen with the data, we are not in a position where we will be able to allow schools to open at this time.
>> what are you going to do, mayor, with the students who don't have computers, who don't have access to the internet? >> the good news is, early on when this emergency first happened, we operated in our emergency operations center an equity team where we have been delivering computers. and this was very early on, computers and adding high speed internet to those areas where our low income students live. so we've been in a decent place as it relates to access. what we plan to also do is set up hubs in the community for the fall. but we've delivered a lot of compute computers, access to high speed internet in those communities. but nothing takes the place of students being able to come together and interact with one another. that's what i'm most concerned about, i think that's what a lot of parents are concerned about. >> what are parents going to do, let's say k through high school, if students have to stay home? at least one of the parents will have to stay home as well, right? >> yeah, well, it's a tough
choice. i want to be clear, we are living in covid for the next, you know, 12 to 18 months. and we are really all in this together. that's why when you have governors of states not requiring masks by their constituents, that's why we have a problem. we need something on a more national scale to address what we know we are all struggling with. yes, we want to open schools. yes, we want to open businesses. we want the economy to get going. but the only way that's going to happen is if everybody does their part. and we can't have governors, mayors, even our president making different decisions because we are all impacted by bad choices. >> as i say, these are life and death decisions. >> definitely. >> for mayors, governors, and the president, for that matter, that they have to make. mayor london breed of san francisco, thank you so much for joining us, good luck. >> thank you, wolf. ahead, security officials of the united states and key allies
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correspondent matthew chance is in moscow for us right now, reporting live. matthew, take us inside what happened and tonight, how is the kremlin responding. >> reporter: wolf, these are absolutely extraordinary allegations, that russia is actually spying on organizations that are trying to find a coronavirus vaccine, organizations in the united states, in britain, and in canada. what the allegations are coming from those u.s. and other western security organizations is that the hacking group cozy bear, which we've heard about before in the hacking of the democratic national committee in 2016 during the presidential elections, has been involved in accessing vulnerable computer systems, using malware to upload and download files on infected machines. the kremlin, whenever it's confronted with any malign activity allegations like this, it always denies them, and
that's been the case this time, kremlin's spokesperson saying russia has nothing to do with these attacks. security agents say despite these acts taking place, no damage was done to the effort to try to find a coronavirus vaccine, that's a good thing. but research into that vaccine at the moment, given the situation in the world, is extremely sensitive as countries try to find an effective treatment or treatments for it. russia is of course one of those countries. it's got one of the highest numbers of coronavirus infections in the world, 750,000. it's plowed massive resources into trying to find a vaccine of their own. and so they're very sensitve to this allegation that there's been any wrongdoing. they're saying, senior russian officials are saying tonight that these allegations of spying are simply an attempt to tarnish the russian vaccine which could, they say, be the first vaccine in the world, wolf. >> we'll see what happens, obviously critically important, that vaccine, we all want to see that vaccine. matthew chance reporting from
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speed up test results for contact tracing strategies to work. and those test results need to be delivered within a day to effectively reduce virus transmission. let's bring in the former fda commissioner dr. mark mcclellan. thanks so much for joining us. just remind our viewers why the speed of testing is so critical if contact tracing is going to be so successful. we can't wait four, five, six days and even longer, right? >> that's right, wolf. for people who have symptoms of covid or for those who have been in close contact of known cases, it's very important to isolate and get tested fast so that you can then getwith and really get outbreaks contained. and that's not happening. that can't happen when there's a weak delay in getting the diagnostic test results if you don't have to wait a few days to get the tests in the first place. we've got real delays taking place now.
>> we certainly do. how do you recommend to speed up. new research suggests it might help. what might that look like? >> wolf, i think there's some technologies that we can use right now for people who have symptoms or for those who are close contact. they need a test fast that's really accurate. and that's what the lab test, the so-called pcr tests are really about. the reason that we're having so much shortage and so many delays in testing, even though we're doing more testing than ever before, is because more and more people are getting tested and they should be because we want to make sure there's not spread among people who don't have symptoms. so much of the disease is spread by people who have minimal symptoms or none. but for most of those individuals where we're talking about screening, there are other tests available, so-called point of care tests that are much faster. they're not quite as accurate.
but that's okay because you're able to do lots more testing and people otherwise wouldn't be able to get it. two kinds of testing and the rockefeller foundation is taking on the initiative to get the smart testing approach out there. >> speaking of that, i know you contributing to the study that says the u.s. needs to get to 30 million rapid coronavirus tests per week. what needs to happen to get to that kind of rate? >> well, the exact number isn't as important as the strategy. so, this is about smart testing. it's about using those lab tests for people who really need them, those who have symptoms and the close contacts. and that could be done within the five or six million tests that we're able to do now. where we really need to ramp up, wolf, is in these other types of tests that are much faster to run, they don't require being sent off to the lab. they're not quite as accurate, but because we can test lots of
people fast we can do a lot more to contain the pandemic. >> the mayor of atlanta had to wait eight days to get her test result and she unfortunately positive. researchers insist, dr. mcclellan, it's not enough to simply have more testing but we have to have what they call smarter testing. so, what makes a testing plan smart? >> it's using the right test for the right reason. so, for the people who have symptoms using those lab tests that are now taking a week because we're trying to do so many of them, that's not going to work out for people who are going into the hospital or the doctor's office for a procedure, they need to get tested. for people who are working in high-risk setting, maybe even more people going back to school, that's a lot of tests. but they're not in people likely to have covid. so, that's where we can really ramp up the other type of tests, not the lab tests, not these
diagnostic tests that are so backed up now but point of care tests that are good for screening and can give good results in just a few minutes. and the capacity to do those things, wolf, is much higher and we haven't taken advantage of it yet. we're starting to do it with nursing homes, but we need to ramp that up across other high-risk settings too. >> thanks for joining us. we're going to have much more news right after this. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred... ...as have certain cancers, including lymphoma,
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