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with down syndrome. he didn't have an easy life but taught their family for the need for selfless love and kindness for all living things. may they rest in peace, and may their memories be a blessing. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room". "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront next, breaking news, president trump admitting the coronavirus pandemic will get worse before it gets better as the number of cases in the u.s. is now just shy of 4 million. plus alarming new data coming from the cdc, the agency now saying there are likely many more people infected with coronavirus than is reported, up to 24 times more in some places. and 18 days, that's how long one man had to wait to find out he tested positive for covid. why the delay? cnn investigates. let's go outfront. good evening everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin
burnett. we have breaking news. the president admitting the coronavirus pandemic is about to get a lot worse in the united states. >> it will probably, unfortunately get worse before it gets better, something i don't like saying about things. >> which is all the more surprising because as we all well know, when the president doesn't like something, he just ignores it, as he's been doing with the pandemic. and now the president no longer able to ignore the reality on the ground. more than 3.8 million cases in the united states. in fact, in the past 17 days, the u.s. reported more than 1 million new cases, astonishing. the death toll now more than 141,000 people killed. 19 states in fact reporting an increase in their death rates. at least 27 states have paused or are now rolling back the plans to reopen. it is a growing crisis in this country very clearly, and today the president held what was
billed as a coronavirus briefing, his first since april, only there were no doctors and no experts and no plans as to what he is going to do now to slow the spread that we are still seeing and increasing. instead, the president tried to convince us to now believe -- to not believe our eyes, not believe our ears, and not believe our recent memory because he's now suggesting that he's always been in support of wearing masks. >> i have the mask right here. i carry it, and i will use it gladly, no problem with it. and i've said that. and i say, if you can use the mask, when you can use the mask. if you're close to each other, if you're in a group, i would put it on. >> that is legitimately a good message. that is the message that experts across the country have been calling for since april, yet this is now -- this is now, for the president, a do as i say, not as i do situation because the president said that today,
when you just saw but did not wear a mask when he was here with a group of people at the trump hotel last night while others were wearing masks. and he has made no secret that he does not like masks. >> the masks, it's going to be really a voluntary thing. you can do it. you don't have to do it. i'm choosing not to do it. >> i think wearing a face mask as i greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i don't know, somehow i don't see it for myself. they've learned about-face masks, the good and the bad. believe it or not it's not a one sided thing. >> for today you can count trump as pro-trump. kaitlan collins is life outfront the white house. what else do you hear from the president in this first briefing back. >> reporter: he says his administration has had a relentless focus on the pandemic but the president himself hasn't
because that's the first time he's taken questions from the reporters on covid since april. but what you did see from the president today is an acknowledgment he has not made recently, and that's that this is going to get worse before it gets better, he said unfortunately. and he encouraged americans to wear a mask while they're outside their home though just moments later he was forced to defend that video you just showed where he was at trump hotel and he was near people not wearing a mask and it's not clear those people had been tested. though today he defended it by saying he was socially distanced from those people. you can't really tell in the video. you may have noticed he was appearing by himself in the briefing room today. the only person who joined him was the press secretary kayleigh mcenany and no members of the task force appeared, as we reported this morning, were not expected. the president was asked why those members, the health expert of his administration, were not there to answer questions with him about what's going on.
he said dr. birx was just right outside though we should note that dr. anthony fauci told cnn at 4:00 that he had not been invited to this briefing. so, some people may remark on the president's shift in tone because he is acknowledging the pandemic, something he has not done in the last few weeks. but we should know he also did repeat some false claims, that the u.s. has one of the lowest mortality rates in the world which is not true, and also that he believes that the coronavirus is just going to disappear one day, also something that's been standing by. i want to note one thing he contradicted the press secretary on. earlier she said sometimes she's tested multiple times a day. kate, he said he cannot recall a time he's gotten more than one test a day. >> thank you so much. outfront now dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner. he's advised the white house medical team under president george w. bush. gentleman, it's good to see you again. sanjay, one of the things we know because of reporting,
people i've spoken to have said this as well, is the thing that changed the tone, made the decision to have the briefing, is polling. so, that is one thing that we do know. this was a press conference, more a press conference than a task force briefing, i think we could say. none of the task force members were there. dr. fauci told cnn, as kaitlan said, he wasn't even invited. the strangest thing was that dr. birx was right outside. i don't even understand that. was this what you were looking for and to hear tonight? >> well, you know, it's one of these things where i think it's good that there is some sort of acknowledgment from the president about this. you know, where i live, kate, there's still a population of people who still thinks this is pretty much a hoax, this whole thing. so, the fact that the president is out there talking about it and saying it's going to get worse before it gets better may acknowledge there's a problem here. you're absolutely right. i want to hear from the scientists, from the doctors about a plan moving forward.
we're still in the middle of the biggest public health cry so i was our lifetime. sometimes people forget that and we need to hear what the plan is going forward. i want to hear about testing. i want to hear about schools. i want to have a national plan. here's the plan. here's what we need to do. contain it means less than 1 in a million new infections per day. that's 350 people total per day would be getting infected. that would be the definition of ocontainment. that's the goal, how do we get here. that's what we need to be hearing from the president in the middle of this crisis. >> i almost chuckle because it seems impossible we would get to that point considering the numbers we're looking at sanjay. that's how far off containment we are, folks. dr. reiner, the president did make that admission this evening that everyone is paying attention to. it's probably, he said, going to get worse before it gets better. and he also said something -- we played a little bit of it before. i want to play it again, something that you have been calling for for quite some time. >> we're asking everybody that
when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask. whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact. we're instead asking americans to use masks, socially distance, and employ vigorous hygiene. >> are you satisfied, dr. reiner? >> well, i'm happy to see the president say this pretty much unequivocally. but we set the bar pretty low when we're con latgratulating t president on promoting the use of masks during a pandemic, after a period of 144,000 americans dying. here we are and i'm glad the president said it. but i want to echo some of the things that sanjay said. now going forward, now that we have an unequivocal statement about-face masks, let's hear the rest of it. let's hear the president promote
careful reopening of states or even more importantly prudent closing of states where the pandemic is out of control. let have the president talk about only opening schools where it's feasible. let's have the president start to talk about the flu season and promoting universal flu vaccination in the united states in preparation for when we are fortunate enough to have a covid vaccine. let's start paving the way. let's start taking on these positive steps. i'm happy the president did this today. we have a long way to go. >> that's not an unreasonable thing to ask for. and also, can we just say it really plainly. it's also really completely schizophrenic what we're hearing him say tonight. we heard him read a statement that you both would have written, that you should wear masks, you should wear masks, you should wear masks. but the president in an interview with chris wallace, as we talked about last night, said masks can also cause problems, masks can also be bad. it's completely schizophrenic. i fear what we're going to hear
from him tomorrow. one thing he did talk about was he's very optimistic about a vaccine. let me play that. >> the vaccines are coming and they're coming a lot sooner than anyone thought possible, by years. >> a vaccine is much needed, no question, especially in light of the new study finding that people are losing antiboyds, losing immunity within a few weeks after getting covid. can you lay out, what do we know right now about immunity? what does this mean for the race for a vaccine? >> yeah, you know, i'll preface by saying i think journalists and doctors are by nature skeptical of things. so, when we hear the idea that the pace at which this vaccine development is happening is very quick, i dug into this. i talk to sources every day about this, kate. and what i would say is i think optimism is still warranted here. we're still in the early days and nothing will, you know, be proven until we can actually show this vaccine is safe and its effective.
and we still have time to get there. but i think the drum beat of evidence so far has been encouraging for sure. i think with regard to antibodies waning over time -- they say you may lose antibodies every 70 or so days according to a new study. i think that's something that vaccine nolgss, people focused on this, are paying attention to. there's all different ways to measure immunity as i myself am starting to recognize talking to these researchers. antibodies is an easy way to measure it. but the way the body responds to an infection through something known as t cells and something known as b cells to some extent also play a significant role. two things to keep in mind. one is that antibodies alone may not be the only measure of immunity. people may still have immunity even if antibody levels wane. and two, more anecdotely, we haven't seen a lot of reinfections in this country. people's antibodies really waned after a few week, you would
think we would start to see clusters of reinfection. we haven't as of yet and i hope we don't. that's another clue there should be protection as well. >> that's interesting. that's a good way of putting it. republican congresswoman liz chaney was verbally attacked by some of her fellow republicans for her support of dr. anthony fauci. your former vice president dig cheney, long time in congress, you know the congresswoman quite well. supporting the top infectious disease expert in the country is now as politically sensitive as wearing a mask. >> yeah, i know congresswoman cheney quite well. i wrote a book with liz and the vice president several years ago. and i have enormous respect for her. representative guess on the other hand is the congressman who mocked the pandemic several months ago by wearing a gas mask on the floor of the house.
he's also the guy that brought a holocaust denier to the state of the union. and i have no respect for him. look, there are members of the republican caucus who have become the truth tellers, people like liz cheney and governor hogan of my state and senator romney. those are the people who are telling the truth. the pandemic has become politicized, and it has to stop. we have to focus on the facts. and i applaud liz for defending, you know, scientists like tony fauci. all of our politicians should do that. >> if you know anything about liz cheney, getting verbally attacked by the members of congress isn't going to stop her. it's good to see you. thanks so much. the cdc is now suggesting that the number of people infected with coronavirus could be much more than the official count. we're talking 24 times higher in some areas. plus massive testing delays. one of the top labs in the u.s. admitting it could take up to two weeks to get the results.
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times. this, as the state just saw its highest daily increase in new hospitalizations. athena jones is outfront. >> reporter: encouraging signs, the tally of new daily coronavirus cases nationwide falling below 60,000 for the first time in about a week and the positivity rate dipping under 8% for the first time since july 5th. and new cases steady in 20 states and falling in 5. still trouble spots abound in the south, the midwest, and the west. with nine states and puerto rico seeing highest seven day average for new cases. and hospitalizations continuing to climb. >> this is why it's so important to get the message out. we're still at the beginning of the pandemic. >> reporter: this as the analyst reveals the number of cases is likely much higher than the tally. the number of people infected is sometimes 6 to 24 times the number of reported cases. more than 50 icus in florida
have reached capacity and 39 hospitals have asked the state for additional medical staff. dozens of nurses have tested positive for the virus. >> we're running out of, you know, beds and nurses and caregivers. and the trend is in the wrong direction. we're barely -- i would say dancing on the head of a pin right now. >> reporter: the surge in cases in many states supercharging the back to school debate. >> the most important thing we do is outside offal skoos before reopening to lower the rate. >> reporter: one pediatrician arguing only a small number of children suffers complications, one child's hospitalization or death is too many. >> children deserve better than this. now is the time to invest in infrastructure to get kids back to school safely. >> we have 23,000 children that have tested positive for covid-19 here in the state of florida. >> reporter: florida's teacher's union suing to block governor
ron desantis order to reopen schools. >> that's not fair to teachers and students who want to get back to work. >> reporter: just this morning, miami's mayor announced summer camps will be closed after three children tested positive for the vir virus. we just got new numbers out of florida where hospitalizations have risen 37% in 12 days. even though more than 50 hospitals in the state say their icus have reached capacity, governor desantis said at a round table today, we're turning this thing back nay different direction. >> outfront now, amy marty, professor of infectious diseases at florida university. she's adviser to the mayor of miami-dade county. i want to ask you about this alarming data from the cdc that there's likely many more cases of covid out there than we know about right now, 6 to 24 times
the report in cases depending on where you are. we were thinking about it, just to paint a picture for everyone, back in early april in south florida, there were 10,500 reported cases. as the cdc reports it's likely he's 11 times worse than that. that would mean something like 117,000 infections. what does that tell you? what do you do with that? >> well, first of all, there's a lot of things we have to consider. when you look at the cdc study, the cdc is conducting a number of different serological studies. the one you're referring to has a particular set of limitations that are very important for people to recognize. number one, it's a study that's based on blood that's coming from a number of different places in the united states and going to two labs and then going to the cdc and it's from people who are hospitalized or going to the hospital for routine check ups. so, it's not the general population that's being looked
at. that's an important thing to know. the second thing is the aliza test that was used to do that study also has a little bit of ability to detect some ordinary coronaviruses. so, there's a tiny bit of problem from that as well. but even with all that that i'm just telling you, it's still an incredibly important study and very significant in terms of the total population of people that have been infected with this virus. but it's still way below the total numbers that would be significant if we wanted to talk about herd immunity, which is not something i'm even sure we can ever have with the sars 2 virus. >> yeah, it's almost like you would hope there would be a silver lining with it, and everything we're hearing is very unlikely, very unlikely that it would get to the herd immunity level at all. florida set a new record today for the number of people requiring hospital care for covid. as athena jones was saying, in just 12 days, hospitalizations have risen 37% in 11 hospitals
in miami-dade county alone are out of icu beds. i want to play with that in mind what the governor said today. listen to this. >> we've got a health system that's working. we've seen obviously the hospital censuses really stabilize in most parts of the state. some of them have even declined which is a good sign as well. so, i think that, you know, we're going to get through it. i think we are on the right course. >> from your perspective right now, is the state on the right course? >> from my perspective right now, we are in a desperate situation. here in miami-dade, the number of admissions per day continues to go up. and as you mentioned, our use of hospital beds, icus, and ventilators is at critical levels. and we are bringing in respiratory therapist positions, physicians, nurses, nursing assistants to get these patients
taken care of but it's extremely challenging. >> doctor, thank you for what you do. thanks for coming on. outfront for us next, testing results taking up to two weeks to come back. how these delays are undermining the effort to contain the virus. drew griffin investigates. and the man suspects of killing a federal judge may be linked to the death of another person in california. ♪ we see you. doing your part by looking out...for all of us. and though you may have lost sight of your own well-being, aetna never did. by setting up virtual monitoring for chronic patients, 24-hour telemedicine visits, and mental health resources for everyone. we're always here to help you focus on your health. because it's always, time for care.
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tonight president trump suggesting he's now open to putting more money towards coronavirus testing. this comes after it was revealed the white house was pushing back onramping up funding for testing, tracing and the cdc. listen. >> i think that we are doing tremendous amount of testing, but if the doctors and the professionals feel that even though we're at a level that nobody every dreamt possible, that they would like to do more, i'm okay with it. >> now one major testing lab company says some people may have to wait up to two weeks to get results back as they struggle to keep up with all the testing demand. drew griffin is outfront. drew, what's behind these really
incredible delays we're talking about now six months into the pandemic? >> yeah, i mean, we are behind in testing. we remain behind in testing, and talking about ramping up now means we're going to continue to be behind in testing. the numbers don't lie. we're doing incredible amounts of testing. the president is right. 50 million tests in the united states, hundreds of thousands a day. the problem, though, is we need more of it. so many people are testing positive, kate, that it's just increasing demand for even more testing. in fact, labs tell us it's an infinite demand and they just can't catch up. they don't have the capacity even as they have continually increased capacity. you'll lead to things like quest diagnostics which released its turn around times yesterday, turn around time of about two weeks or up to two weeks. that means for an average person it's going to take two weeks from the time you're swabbed or you spit in the cup until you
find out whether or not you actually have this covid disease. this is really unacceptable in any way, shape or form in trying to contain this. and not only do we have a lack of testing that's not keeping up with the demand, the old problem of supplies has come back. mayo clinic telling us that supplies are an agent, reagent supplies. and as they said, any little hiccup in the supply chain creates a ripple down the way leading to ever more delays on testing. we remain very much behind. and kate, they're looking ahead, they're looking to school starting, they're looking to all that pressure for even more testing as kids go back to school and we're just not prepared for it. >> with the waits this long, especially when you're talking about reopening society, bringing kids back to school, doesn't that make trying to contain the virus difficult but almost impossible when it comes to contact tracing? >> yeah. i mean, the idea of testing
was -- right -- you test somebody on a microlevel, you determine that they are sick, you isolate that person, and you go find everybody that person was in contact with. well, if you're waiting two weeks to find out if that person's sick, it means finding everybody that person has been in contact with almost impossible. the bigger issue though, as dr. sanjay gupta was talking about today is the virus now is so -- it's fast-spreading, kate. it's beyond testing. you can't get enough contact tracing going on to try to contain it at this point. the virus load has to come down before it's even possible. >> drew, thank you so much. joining me right now is tanner melvin. his story gets directly at this problem with these delays in testing. he had to wait 18 days to get his covid test results back to learn that he had the virus the whole time. tanner, thank you very much for being here. you were tested at the very end
of june. you finally received your results this weekend, 18 days later. first off, how are you feeling now? >> i'm feeling a lot better. thank you for asking, kate. i appreciate it. my wife and i both are dog a lot better. she's about four or five days behind me in symptoms, but we're both doing a lot better. thank you. >> 18 days is -- >> yeah. >> -- on the extreme end of waiting. but it is ridiculous still how long you had to wait. what was it like waiting 18 days to find out? >> definitely like a roller coaster. you know, the first -- when it cot to 7 days, i knew something was wrong. and then by the 15th day, we actually made a statement about it. and it was just very unnerving and very frustrating. we know a lot of people doing a lot worse off and we got to a point where we realized that we were doing okay but we still didn't really know what was
going on. >> that's the thing. it can get worse -- it can get bad really fast. and that's something that scares a lot of people. i'm sure you've thought about this. what would it have -- how would it have been different if you had received your results in let's say what should be a turn around time of a day or two days? what would have been different for you? >> for us, in particular, i don't think a whole lot. so, that's kind of why we wanted to start talking about it, because we're very fortunate. we were very fortunate in our symptoms and how fast it actually went through our household, the disease did, or covid. but there are a lot of people out there that aren't as lucky. they don't have the support systems that my wife erin and i have. that's why we wanted to discuss it publicly within our friend
group and now here with you. i don't know if anything would have changed. we would have known. we would have had peace of mind, but we continued to do our isolation, our self-quarantine and cleaning. you know, we had a system down. we continued that. we continue that to this day, but we're a little bit more open now. >> you told my producers that you and your wife, you were very vigilant. you were wearing masks, you were social distancing, you were really taking precautions. do you know how you got infected? >> absolutely not. i wish we did just so that we could have some type of tracing. but we really looked back at individuals, groups, any type of interaction on that level. i even made a call to some friends that i had seen back home weeks before this actually happened just in case. one of my best friend's mother
and father, i had actually seen, so i checked in with them. everybody's great. everybody's happy and healthy. so, we're really just not sure about where we did get it. >> that's the scary part. i hear that from so many people. you know, a lot of people i don't think get it how important getting a test result that quickly is for an entire -- not just your friend group or your family group but for your community. what do you think of someone who might -- who isn't concerned about how long it's going to take to turn around these results? >> well, try not to limit yourself. try to understand that there are people out there that really do need these results in an extremely quick manner. maybe it's job related. maybe it is health related. it's very difficult at this time. and i just want people to think and to understand that masks,
whatever stuff that's going on, this type of tracing and these test results, getting this back nay timely manner is a matter of life and death for some people. >> no kidding. tanner, thank you. so glad that you're doing okay. my best to your wife. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. outfront for us next, texas surpassing 4,000 deaths now. we're going to take you to one hospital where the situation is growing more dire by the day. and the mayors of six major cities telling the trump administration they do not want federal officers on their streets. what's the response? just over a year ago, i was drowning in credit card debt. sofi helped me pay off twenty-three thousand dollars of credit card debt. they helped me consolidate all of that into one low monthly payment. they make you feel like it's an honor for them to help you out. i went from sleepless nights
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it looks like he's getting ready to work in another world. >> it's overwhelming. it's a tsunami, what we're seeing right now. >> reporter: coronavirus patients have filled the hospital where he works. on most days he says he's treating about 70 different patients, four to five times more than he usually sees in a single day. >> i have never had to sign as many death certificates as i've been signing the last several weeks. talking to these families have been very, very difficult. >> can you describe the suffering you've seen among the patients. >> these scenes effect us. they're having trouble with the breathing. when it happens, it's heartbreaking. it is so difficult to watch them say good-bye to their relatives by picking up a phone saying i'm having trouble. i doctors crying all the time. i see doctors breaking down all the time. but then again,s that what we
do. >> south texas is the covid-19 hot spot inside the texas hot spot. hospital officials are warning that icu space are running out, nursing and doctor teams are stretched to the limit. >> do you feel when you walk into these covid units, it's a parallel yes, sir? >> it's definitely a parallel universe. >> he says the covid units are filled with the sound of patients gasping for air. many needing ventilators and gut wrenchi wrenching conversations. >> so, you have people telling you, doc, please don't put me on that, don't put me on that. you struggle because that's what they need. finally they just give up and they say go ahead. but, you know, you may be the last person i ever talk to, so please tell my family, my parents, my kids that i love them and that i fought hard.
>> reporter: jessica ortiz says her twin brother fought the virus for almost two weeks. the 27-year-old worked as a security guard at a jewelry store. >> your heart, i was here for you. sorry. >> reporter: he died on july 3rd. >> he fought long and hard. we all know you. >> reporter: at the funeral friends and family paid respects through a plastic shield over the casket. there was a fear his body might still be contagious. >> he meant the world. i just wish it wasn't him. i wish i had him with me because he didn't live his life yet. >> reporter: jessica is left with this last image of her brother, a screen recording of one of their last conversations, waving good-bye. >> and kate, you know, one of the things that everyone that we talked to is really struggling
with is feelings of anger and frustration. the doctors say they need more hospital bed space, equipment, relief for nursing staff and technicians. jessica ortiz is wondering if her brother would still be alive had politicians not rushed to reopen the economy and he hadn't had to go back to work, kate. >> that is heartbreaking and so important to continue bringing light and bringing a spotlight to their stories because it is a real -- it's just heartbreaking. thank you, ed. my god, my god. outfront for us next, six city mayors are trying to stop the administration from sending federal forces to their cities, but do they have the power to stop the president? the mayor of kansas city is next. plus the clues that could link the suspect in the fatal shooting at a federal judge's home to another deadly shooting in california. stomize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. what do you think? i don't see it.
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that federal law enforcement agents be kept out of their cities n. a letter to attorney general bill barr, they write this in part. i'll read part of it. it is concerning that federal law enforcement is being deployed for political purposes, the president and his administration continually attack local leadership and amplify false and divisive rhetoric purely for campaign fodder. this after we've seen ongoing clashes between protesters and officers in portland, oregon. outfront with me now, the democratic mayor of kansas city, missouri, one of the mayors that signed on to this letter. mayor, thank you for being here. have you heard anything back? >> we have not heard anything back. i think the reason that i signed on and the other mayors signed on is because we've had great concern. when you look at what's happening in portland, i think the federal involvement is pouring fuel on the fire. we have a lot of issues going on right now in american cities.
what we don't need is further relating to having any number of unmarked officers that are coming in and scaring the public more than i think is necessary when we already have local police departments that can address a number of the issues. so, that's why we sent the letter. we wanted to make it clear that we want only support when asked, not necessarily just folks intervening. >> and that's what i want to ask coming after you in part saying that you're supporting what's called operation legend, which is a federal law enforcement surge program to send federal agents to your city. are you still supporting this program while signing on to this letter? >> the short answer is yes. i think there is a way you can say we like having support from federal law enforcement to do things like investigations of unsolved murders and ballistics, those sorts of things that are distinct, where our police department is still leading. that's the situation with federal involvement here and
every one of our cities, we have fbi agents, atf, et cetera. what i have concerns with and most have concerns with is not your local fbi branch helping you out with unsolved homicides, particularly unsolved homicides of young people but instead, folks coming in to arrest protesters, folks coming in that aren't reporting to your local police department or talking to or communicating with mayors and frankly, our cities being used as political battle grounds, i think the president's advantage. >> look, if the president wants to send in a portland style deployment, i guess i can put it that way to kansas city. what can you do to stop them? >> well, i think step one, you know, hopefully the president will listen to leaders in every jurisdiction around the country. we know our communities. we know their challenges and assets we have to address any number of issues. that the why you have the letter sent first. i reached out to my
congressional delegation. i have two republican senators, a number of congress people around this area that also have, i think, helped push forward that message but ultimately, in the same way you're seeing people on the streets making noise, we need to as elected officials continue to make it clear to the white house, to the department of justice and homeland security that we're not interested in just an outside occupying force that is actually su our police. the time people are complaining, bringing in law enforcement agents from a thousand miles away is not the cure necessarily particularly dealing with protest activity. >> look, you've not been quiet, that's for sure. you've been outspoken and critical to the people turning out to the protest. i was reading one tweet you said i'll be dammed if i let non-black allies like those coming out tonight claim some high moral ground. what is going on? >> what is going on is simply this, i saw an interview with
the mayor of san francisco. there are a lot of people using the language, the narrative or black lives matter movement but don't care what black people want in our communities. here is the deal. we do have clear issues with violent crime in kansas city. we have issues where we want to solve more crimes. those are important steps. we also want to make sure that yeah, as we're looking at what are the cures and solutions, we're actually hearing from the people most impacted, not people coming from nearby college towns, which is an arrestee from this weekend, not coming to i think district and distort what the movement is. you know, i have talked to lots of people who have been protesting, lots of younger black folks protesting and i think they said they want to make sure their voices are heard, not just taken over by other forces. >> i'm looking to hear if you get a response from bill barr. mayor, thank you for coming in. could the suspect of the deadly shooting at the judge's
what a former long-time associate is saying about the suspect in the attack of a new jersey federal judge's family. investigators are looking whether he's connected to a similar incident in california. alexander field is "outfront". >> reporter: tonight, questions about the suspected killer dressed in a fedex uniform to carry out the killing of ester salas. a self-described men's right attorney was found dead the day after the shootings that killed salas' 20-year-old son and left her husband badly injured. he's seen here on the colbert report. >> i'm going to fight the famili femininist with my last dollar. >> reporter: they are seeing if he's connected to another deadly shooting in california. a gunman dress in a fedex uniform killed another
self-described men's rights activist. both had once been part of the same group, protesting what's described as legal discrimination against men. investigators are also looking into everyday that they had a broader plan, a search of his belongings turned up a fedex package addressed to judge salas and new york state's chief judge who is under state police protection. an extensive hate filled racist and sexist writings, he describes himself as an anti feminist denigrates salas and argued a case in front of salas. >> i took an oath and i stand by that oath. >> reporter: new jersey's first latina federal judge. the same writings are littered with attacks against obama and appointees including supreme court justice sonia soto minor and saying he hates feminism
more than i hate america. a spokesman for trump's 2020 campaign says we don't know anything about him but the crimes he's accused of are horrific. >> thank you so much for joining us. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" with john berman starts now. good evening. john berman in for anderson. with coronavirus deaths nearing 142,000 and cases approaching 4 million, you will hear people say there was a change in tone from donald trump today. it is true, his mouth admitted different sounds and words, a change but whether we see a change in policy, a change in action, that remains to be seen. still, for this one moment at this one briefing today, the president by in large said things out loud that he rarely does. >> some areas of our country are doing very well,do doido doing less well. it will get worse before it get