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faculty member at howard yearsty. she was a family oriented mom who enjoyed parties and dancing. may they rest in peace, and may their memories being a blessing. thanks for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront next, breaking news, president trump now insisting the light is at the end of the tunnel in the fight against the coronavirus, yet it was 24 hours ago he said it was going to get worse. what changed? plus, the president still pushing to fully reopen schools, saying it can be done safely because kids don't catch the virus early. but not everyone agrees. and republicans turning on one of their own for supporting dr. fauci. now that congresswoman is fighting back. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm kate wald win in for erin burnett. breaking news, one day after the president appeared to accept
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reality, saying things are going to get worse before they get better -- remember that, with the virus? the president today painting a much rosier picture today at a press conference, with again, no medical experts. >> we will get to the other end of that tunnel very quickly, we hope. the light is starting to shine. we've been doing it properly. cases remain low and very stable. as far as the coronavirus, as you say, i think we've done some amazing things and i think you'll probably see that if you compare our statistics to other countries and if you look at death rates, et cetera, you're going to see, and especially into the future with what's happening, you're going to see some very, very impressive numbers. >> first he calls america's numbers impressive. here are the facts. the u.s. right now is on track to hit 4 million cases within the next day. cases have been rising at an astonishing speed now. now more than 3.9 million.
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remember the u.s. has just 4% of the world's population. but a quarter of the world's cases, california also overtaking new york as the state with the most cases. 12,000 new cases a day. and hospitalizations across the country are closing in on the all-time high which was set back on april 15th. you also heard the president mention the death rate. look at the u.s. compared to other countries. according to johns hopkins, the u.s. has the 10th worse death rate when compared to other countries. mitt romney certainly does not think the u.s. is the envy of the world. >> with regards to the coronavirus crisis, i don't think it's been a great example for the world to see america under the current administrative plans. >> so, then to testing. this was the president just moments ago.
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>> today we surpassed -- first time, we surpassed 50 million tests. that's far more than any country in the world. >> 50 million tests in about five months. it was back in april that a group of harvard researchers said that the united states needed to be testing 20 million people a day in order to safely reopen and contain the virus. republican senator bill cassidy of louisiana who is also a physician was asked my manu raju if he is satisfied with the level of testing in this country. his response is, quote, i don't think anybody's satisfied with it. and dr. anthony fauci who was, again, also not at the briefing is also not impressed. >> certainly we are not winning the game right now. we are not leading it. >> kaitlan collins is outfront for us live outside the white house. kaitlan, you asked the president an important question, why no doctors and medical experts were there again tonight.
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what did he say? >> reporter: it wasn't something he fully explained yesterday. he only said dr. birx was, quote, right outside. the question is what's the thinking now and why has that changed? before the briefings before he scrapped them in april he was appearing with the experts. the president defended the decision to appear solo. he said he is briefed by them. he cited dr. fauci and said he just had a conversation with him recently and a conversation with dr. birx and he said basically they're briefing him and he's briefing us and he thinks that's a concise way of doing things. while these briefings are much shorter than they used to be, the question is is it a way for the american public to not get this information from the health experts like they were before when dr. birx was coming out with these briefings, all of this data that she was showing before. all you have to do is look tonight at the senate republican integrity is reporting on a conversation they were having
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when they were communicating to 11 cities in the united states they need to take more aggressive measures to contain spreading virus and communities. those are questions that can be useful if the health experts were there. the president was asked, kate, about his push to reopen schools, something he has advocating strongly for and even said he wanted to tie federal funding to whether or not schools reopen. he said he would feel comfortable sending his son and his grandchildren to school right now if the situation called for it, if these schools were open. as we've seen, the president has so many times accused these schools of playing politics by not reopening. but kate, if you look at what's happening across the country, there are several schools in red states in red counties that the president upon in 2016 that said they are going to delay or do remote learning from the beginning of the school year because they're too concerned they can't take the right precautions to protect their students and staff. >> individual schools, individual school districts and even state superintendents as we're going to speak to later in
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the program. kaitlan, thank you. so. outfront with me now, dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jonathan reiner, director of the cath lab at george washington university hospital and advised the team under george w. bush. round two, i guess, gentleman i wanted to ask you about tonight's briefing. sanjay, tonight the president, he put a lot of blame for the surge in cases which i was -- i found curious. i wanted to hear where he thought the problem was coming from. he did mention young people going to bars. that's one thing we know people have talked about. but he also blamed protesters and spent quite a bit of time blaming mexico. is there any data to back ythat up? >> no, i don't think there's any data specifically on mexico, you know. i heard him mention that as well. we actually looked up to see if there was any data on that, and i didn't find any. this is a simple sort of thing to understand in term of viral dynamics. when people are more closely
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clustered together, unmasked and they're spending duration of time together is over 10 to 15 minutes, that's when they're most likely to spread the virus. a couple of things can help reduce the likelihood of that transmission. wearing a mask, obviously significant benefit. you look at some of the studies, saying you're wearing a mask, it's six to seven times less likely to transmit the vooirs. it's not perfect but it does a good job. the other thing, being outside. 18 to 20 times less likely to spread the virus. the worst possible scenario, indoor, crowded, no masks, people next to each other for a long period of time. and the best case scenario would be that if you are going to be around people at all, outside, physically distanced wearing a mask. >> it's not a grand conspiracy. it's not even really -- really as you said, it's simple and important and needs to be repeated because medical experts aren't there with them to say that. dr. reiner, again tonight, there
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were no doctors with them or any of the experts that are advising the task force or the briefing. kaitlan was talking about how she asked the president why not and she said he thought it was a more concise way of doing it. they brief him and he briefs everyone else. we have three years of evidence, don't we, of why that is somewhat problematic. number one, he does not stick to the facts, and he has repeatedly down played the virus. when it comes to public health messaging, is it ever better to hear from a politician instead of the scientists? >> no. next question. look, the president doesn't want doctors fauci or birx there because they are real time fact checkers. without them, he can say things which are either misleading or out-and-out wrong. so, today, the president touted the improvement in the positivity rate. he said in april the positivity rate was over 16% and now it's
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down to 8.5%. well, that's sort of true, but what he didn't say is that it had gone down to as low as 4.3% in june. but then because of the reopening of states, it then doubled. so, that's the kind of fact checking that, you know, white house reporters can do easily if birx or fauci come to the podium and the president just can't have that. but the public needs that. the public needs to hear the unvarnished truth. and the truth is the truth. and the more the public understands, the better the public will adhere to prudent policy. so, we need to see fauci and birx and redfield back on the podium. otherwise, it's just a political rally. it's just another presidential political rally. >> and i'm also just wondering, just real quick, what you actually -- what is gained and learned at the briefing. you know, he said at one point
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it's all going to work out. it is working out. i love the optimism that it is going to work out. i love being a can-do society. but you've got to put the processes in place and putting national strategy in place to actually get it to work out. >> right. this is something that i think docs deal with all the time. jonathan and i have talked about this. everybody wants to be hopeful, sure. but honesty has to lead the way. full transparency and frankly a plan. that's what patients want. that's what the country wants is a plan. here's the problem. here's the solution. here's how we're going to get to this and here's how we're going to implement that solution. that's what we're still not hearing. so, you know, sometimes you walk away from these briefings and i try to put myself in the shoe of the viewers and people would say it sounds like they're okay, there's not much to worry about here. on the one hand i'm glad he's dog it because there's a need for people to be reminded that we're still in the middle of the worst public health crisis of our lifetime.
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but i do wish it would be substantive. and i wish like jonathan that the scientists would be there. i love the united front. here are the scientists, and as president, i support them and we're going to make sure the plans we're recommending get implemented. >> you can look elsewhere and see that there are national plans that have worked, dr. reiner. you heard mitt romney say that he doesn't think the united states has set a great example for the world here. i want to play more of what he said. >> look at other nations, look at germany, the eu. they had some tough times as we did, but they came out of them. and we're still struggling, in part because of lack of effective oversight of this process. >> if it has been so different here than, just take germany, what example would you say the united states has set? what's working there that's not working here? >> leadership. you know, warren buffet says that when the tide goes out,
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that's the time you get to see who's been swimming naked. and the tide went out this past spring in the united states. and then when the tide went out, we saw that we didn't have adequate supplies of ppe or the ability to manufacture it. we didn't have testing capacity. we couldn't ramp it up quickly. we didn't have the leadership to tell the country to social isolate and wear masks. and then once we put those policies in place, we didn't have the patience and the persistence to stick with it until the virus was really subdued. so, that's what the world has seen. the world has seen that sadly, my country, our country has been swimming naked. >> i'm still trying to find optimism, dr. reiner. we still can change it. we can still -- i don't know how to go with the metaphor. we can still put swim trunks on. sanjay, on vaccines, really quickly. a few candidates are entering phase three. dr. fauci spoke today about
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something they look for during this phase of the trial. i want to play this for everybody. >> one of the ones that we want to keep a special eye on is the possibility a vaccine-induced enhancement of infection. in other words, the paradoxical situation where you get infected. >> so, some people are already concerned about the safety of the vaccine because of the talk of warp speed and the record speed they're moving at. this sounds additionally concerning from a safety standpoint. are you concerned about the safety of these vaccines? >> i think these are the types of things that you look for, vaccine-induced enhancement means you give someone a vaccine. instead of being protective against a further infection, it can make a future infection worse. it has happened with other vaccine candidates. i mean, you know, we're starting to really look underneath the hood of this, right? kate. so, people are seeing all these
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things they're typically not used to hearing. that's what they've got to look for. we do have to continue to be diligent about looking at the data and making sure the fda does its job. there's a regulatory process here. it's got to be safe and effective. we're not there yet. it's still really early days. >> that's exactly right. there's a long way to the finish line for sure, even with the optimistic things we're seeing and promising things we're seeing. great to see you guys. thank you. outfront next, california hitting a new record with cases as the health director in los angeles warns the virus is set to become one of the leading causes of death there. plus president trump is pushing schools to fully reopen within weeks insisting it is safe, but is it? i'm going to talk to the top education official in south carolina, and georgia struggling to contain the virus with near record hospitalizations and yet the say it is paralyzed over how to stop the outbreak. cash back n everything. that's ebates. i get cash back on electronics, travel, clothes.
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in the sunshine state, seven weeks after the governor announced bars were back. people go, enjoy, have a drink. it's fine. we want to not have huge crowds piling in. >> reporter: in texas, the navy sending medical personnel to the hard hit rio grande valley. doctors report a tsunami of patients. >> i went to put someone on life support to intubate someone, it was my sixth grade schoolteacher. >> reporter: the number of patients in the hospital is inching closer to that grim april peak. the national covid daily death toll just topped 1,000 for the first time in two weeks. but there is some optimism. take those vaccine trials. >> we have well over 100,000 people that have already signed up as volunteers. >> the u.s. government just pre-ordered 100 million doses of pfizer's potential vaccine, might be ready for regulatory review as early as october, might be available by the end of
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the year. >> we are optimistic. we are open hopeful. things can go wrong that can slow a project. so, those are optimistic. >> reporter: meanwhile, this is california's current normal. you can get a haircut, but only outside. >> i lost a lot of customers. they're scared to come out for one. two, loss of jobs. >> reporter: this state now leads the nation with the most confirmed cases, over 400,000, just surpassed new york. but look how each state got there. new york a brutal early spike. california a steady climb. >> we saw a slow tidal wave coming n. emergency medicine we called this time to prepare the golden hour. >> reporter: that time and the lessons learned from new york helped a lot. similar case counts, but california death toll, less than a quarter of new york's. >> we're hoping this is the peak, but we're all dreading the upcoming flu season.
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>> reporter: other hotspots, average new case counts are plateauing, high but flattening. >> we are certainly not at the end of the game. i'm not even sure we're halfway through. >> reporter: now, kate, those university of washington modelingers have just dropped their projected death toll by 5,000 because so many people are wearing masks and so many places are mandating them. but they said if we adopted them universally across this entire country, we would save another 35,000 american lives between now and november 1st. >> it seems pretty simple at this point. thank you, nick. outfront now, dr. william schaffner at vanderbilt medical center. it's great to see you again. i want to ask you about this big announcement first that the government and drug maker pfizer have reached a deal to produce 100 million doses of a covid-19
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vaccine once it's approved, of course. how big of a deal is this and how unusual is this? >> it is very unusual, kate, but you and i and every other taxpayer in this country are laying some bets. we're helping manufacturers in advance start to manufacture vaccines such that when the clinical trial is finished and we see that the vaccine works, we hope, then we'll already have a stock pile of vaccine in the warehouse ready to go. so, we're betting on a number of different horses simultaneously. we hope they all come in because we need as much vaccine as possible. if the vaccine doesn't work, we'll just have to trash the vaccine, and we've lost only money. but this is unusual. we're doing things simultaneously that we used to do in sequence. that's helping us get there as quickly as possible. >> yeah, that's how we're cutting down on time.
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following that announcement, the hhs secretary said that he is very confident that there won't be any supply chain issues in getting the millions and millions of doses ready to deliver quickly. let me play what he said. >> we're right at the beginning of operation warp speed, work to lockdown finish capacity as well as syringes and needles and glassware. so, we secured that to be able to ensure we'll be able to vaccinate the american people once we get vaccines that are demonstrated safe and effective to the fda's gold standard of approval or authorization. >> now, that sounds great, dr. schaffner. but do you trust that to be true? because the federal response has very clearly had trouble scaling up anything since the beginning of this pandemic. >> well, kate, i always say underpromise and overdeliver rather than overpromise and underdeliver. but i'm cautiously optimistic. i hope that's true. we need a ray of good hope here
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and sunshine. so, let's hope that that will work. >> yeah. the president tonight, he was talking about testing, and he was touting the fact that the united states has surpassed conducting 50 million tests. but testing is a glaring example of where the federal government has falling short. i mean, ou have quest diagnostics, one of the big companies. he's already warning people could see delace of two weeks to get results back because of demand. now they're admitting they won't be able to cope when it comes to flu season in the fall. i'm going to play for you what the governor of california has said. >> it's rather per postrouse that you can get a test and 13, 14 days later, you get a result. it's utterly meaningless. >> it's also at this point, i think, inexplicable. can you explain how this is possible now months into this fight because it is only going
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to get worse? >> you're looking at me to explain this? >> exactly. >> no, i'm sorry. i don't want to be facetious. i don't care about comparisons between countries. the question is do we have the testing materials, the personnel, the laboratories, do we have the throughput so that we can test effectively here in the united states to fulfill our own needs? and the answer to that is no. we're not there yet. we expect to get even more testing needs in the future as was said given influenza season coming up. we'll want to test it even more. our supply chains are tenuous, as it is. we've had difficulties in our own laboratories here at vanderbilt with that. so, everything is very edgy. and obviously we would like it to improve because testing is one of the fundamental aspects of being able to keep track of this virus and help individual patients as well as give us a public health view of what's
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going on. >> and this was knowable. this was knowable from the very beginning there were supply chain issues. thank you. outfront for us next, south carolina's governor is pushing for kids to be back in classrooms five days a week. but the say it's top education official does not agree. why? she's my guest. plus it was the first state to reopen and now the state is dealing with a surge of cases and hospitalizations with no end in sight. a special report ahead. you mayt sight of your own well-being, aetna never did. we're always here to help you focus on your health. because it's always, time for care. i thought it had to be thick to protect. ♪
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tonight, breaking news, president trump pushing for schools to fully reopen in just a few weeks, saying it will be safe. >> i think most governors, many governors, want the schools to open. i would like to see the schools open. >> and in south carolina, the governor there is echoing that. listen. >> parents need to have a choice. they need to say to their districts whether they want their children to go in class five days a week or whether they
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want a virtual education. >> in class five days a week. that is what the governor of south carolina wants. but not all south carolina school officials agree, including the state's top education official, state superintendent molly spearman. thank you for being here. when the governor is saying in person five days a week needs to be offered in all districts, what did you think when you heard that? >> well, my goal is to have everyone back. i think all educators want to have our schools open five days a week as soon as possible. but we've been working all summer on plans, and each district is unique. the spread of the virus is unique. the facilities are unique. the needs of the students are unique. and i believe it's best left at the local level. now, i am requiring two things that every district offer a virtual option. and we can do that in south carolina. but i'm also requesting that
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they have some type of face-to-face option as well. and generally it's going to be a hybrid option. a few districts will be opening five days a week, but i'm watching to make sure they can do that safely. >> i'm just curious why the governor isn't listening to that. >> well, i think, you know, it's easy to say everyone back five days a week. but the truth is we are offering virtual options in south carolina. we have our own virtual schools, virtual charter schools. districts are dog their own virtual programming. so, every parent in south carolina will have that option. we think it will be -- there will be enough students who choose that. it looks like it's running somewhere from 20% to 30% of parents are choosing the virtual option,that that will decrease the in-person population and some classrooms, some schools will be able to open and maintain a smaller class size
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where social distancing can happening. but if they can't do that and they can't do it safely, they've got to go to other options. so, that's what i'm working with them and that's what i will approve. but again, we're pushing, and i do know and i've required -- i'm requiring our districts to have some type of face-to-face contact with students because we really do need to put our eyes on the students, make sure they're okay, talk with them. so, that will be a requirement even if they go virtual, that they have some type of initial face-to-face with students. >> what i'm hearing you say over and over is safety leads, safety first, then we can talk about our plans. with that in mind, i want to play for you something that the president actually just said today about schools. >> they don't catch it easily, they don't bring it home easily. if they do catch it, they get better fast. we're looking at that fact. that is a factor. >> that's the president's
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understanding, and that, i believe, is why he's trying to describe his reasoning for saying all kids should be back in classrooms in schools. but is that your understanding of this virus? >> well, it is my understanding from health experts that younger children ages 10 and actually about 15 and under are less likely to transmit the disease, less likely to get really sick. but, you know, i'm a mother, a parent, and i know that some children might get really sick. and i'm thinking who's child is that going to be? is it my grand child? is it your child? so, i have to take this very seriously. >> superintendent, thank you very much for coming in. >> my pleasure. thank you. outfront next, georgia shattering single day records, hospitalizations have now tripled. where did the state go wrong?
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the state reporting more than 3,300 new cases today. hospitalizations are nearing record highs. despite that, officials are still publicly feuding over the best measures to get the virus under control. nick valencia is outfront. >> reporter: if georgiaens still had any doubt about the worsening pandemic in the state, recent covid-19 numbers are reason to worry. new daily cases have doubled and hospitalizations tripled in the last month alone. >> we are seeing increase in covid in the communities throughout the state. >> reporter: georgia is shattering single day records with around 3,000 new cases reported almost every day in the last week. but the state's leaders have turned to bickering and finger pointing amid the growing crisis. >> if you look at when it started, i think there's several reasons for that. number one was the
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demonstrations. number two, because of the demonstrations, that sent a message to people that, hey, it's all right to get out again. >> i think the problem is here is that georgia has been act something what psychotic. >> reporter: in april when state health officials believed numbers had plateaued and georgia became one of the first states to reopen, public health experts warned the consequences could be dire. on mae 21st nearly one month after reopening the state, governor brian kemp was cautiously optimistic. >> i'm proud of what we accomplished over the last several weeks. >> reporter: in the two months since that press conference, things have only gotten worse. since this perfect storm, the factors of under testing, early reopening and lack of enforcement of masking and physical distancing policies has compounded the pandemic playing out in george. >> reporter: harvard professor
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says the way in which georgia officials interpreted data may have given a poor since of confidence. georgia's health department fact dated it's numbers. the georgia department of health defended the practice to cnn calling it the traditional way to look at data during an outbreak, adding georgia has been reporting the data the same way since the beginning of the pandemic. while it says less about when infections are occurring, presenting data is important to understand the case burden we're facing each day. but harvard researchers say back dating caused errors. >> decline in cases every week because the positive cases keep getting back dated to when the symptoms first began. >> reporter: cnn asked governor kemp to respond. he declined an interview but as
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for how things stand now, his office say grass don't look complementary. tuesday night, governor kemp launched a new campaign encouraging georgiaens to wear masks. but public health experts warned it may take more than that. >> you go back to flattening the curve and wearing masks, following the best guide lipos around physical distancing and in cases where the pandemic is getting out of control, a local shutdown. >> reporter: state and local leaders are sending mixed messages to georgians. we know that wearing a mask helps stop spread the virus but wearing a mask continues to be a topic of political debate in georgia, georgia's governor brian kemp suing atlanta's mayor over a mask man date. he says he doesn't think a mask mandate has to be in place for georgians to, quote, do the right thing.
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outfront next, trump sending federal forces to albuquerque. >> today i'm announcing a surge of federal law enforcement into american communities plagued by violent crime. >> albuquerque's major responds next. plus, it's getting ugly. more republicans attacking republican congresswoman liz cheney for supporting dr. anthony fauci and slamming the president and now cheney is responding. om and curiosity, there's a bridge. between ideas and inspiration, trauma and treatment. gained a couple of more pounds. that's good for the babies. between the moments that make us who we are, and keeping them safe, private and secure, there's webex. ♪ ♪ beautiful.
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new tonight, president trump announcing he is sending federal law enforcement agents to chicago and albuquerque. they say that -- trump and his team say it is part of operation legend, the program to surge federal agents to help local communities tackle violent crime. here's the catch, those city's mayors didn't ask for help. >> the effort to shut down policing in their own communities has led to a shocking explosion of shootings,
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killings, murders. this rampage of violence shocks the conscious of our nation and we will not stand by and watch it happen. >> outfront now, the mayor of b albuquerque, tim keller. thank you for coming in. you called them trump secret police and called it a stunt. now that you've heard the announcement, do you feel any differently? >> well, i don't, and, you know, it's just because we're very concerned about this concept where it's a real bait and switch. so, you know, we hear one thing and then two weeks later like in portland all of a sudden it is secret police trying to round up protesters. and i think every mayor in the country wants to never see what's happening in portland in their city. and for us right now because of the president's own words, when he says he's going after democrat cities as part of his re-election strategy, we're very
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concerned it's about insightici violence. >> do you know or have you been told what these officers are going to be doing in albuquerque? >> this is what's interesting about this. you almost know that something is up because one the president is talking about albuquerque which doesn't usually happen. but two, we've been told nothing. and usually we get formal mous, we get details, there's task forces put in place. we have received no formal documentation about this at all. >> the attorney general, he described the program and what they were doing, the announcement, as standard anticrime fighting activities. let me play a little bit more of what the attorney general bill barr said. >> kind of operation obviously, then the tactical teams we use to defend against riots and mob violence. and we're going to continue to confront mob violence. but the operations we're
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discussing today are very different. they are classic crime fighting. >> he says it's not going to be a portland-style deployment. and last year, your city had a -- saw a record number of homicides. if this program is just what bill barr says, could you use the help? >> you know, for us, we always want to try and find partnership when we're fighting crime. we do know that we have down until the six months so we're feeling better. the challenge is the disconnect between the president and the attorney general and, you know, i think you got to look at the voice at the top and, you know, yesterday that voice was explicitly articulating sort of gaslighting strategy against immigrants and people of color and protesters in progressive democrat cities. so look, we're concerned about it. i think that one thing is look, if we can get a situation where we're assure that our values in our city are maintained in the
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operation that it actually is what the a.g. says, of course, we can work together on it. we do it on a daily basis. it usually not involving the president of the united states. >> and that's one thing, i mean, you well know and many of our viewers do. there is often coordination between local law enforce 7ceme and local law enforcement. we see that all the time. you just don't trust them or take them at their word? you don't trust them? >> you know, we don't. i think for good reason. it started with, well, there is a long history but at least in our town and since i've been mayor, the separation of children at the border was a big issue in our community where we were told one thing and then it came down that all of that separation was actually happening. and then with a lot of these grants, there are strings attach that basically say by the way, we'll deport people and we don't support that in any way in albuquerque. for us, there is just a history of them being very two-faced and so as a result, we don't really trust them, and i think until
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the president will put in writing and in an mou agreement that this is not portland, i will never repeat portland and that's not what this is, and then agree to city ordinances, which we have to protect people of color and immigrants, then we can work together. >> what's an -- remind me what an mou is. >> a memorandum of understanding. >> there we go. just want to make sure we're on the same page. now i understand you. mayor, thank you very much. appreciate it. let's see what happens. i'm interested to see if you get anything in writing like that. thank you for your time. >> you got it. thank you. "outfront" next republicans stepping up attacks against one of their own, liz cheney responds. he alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is everywhere. on every sidewalk, track, and trail across this country. all of us are raising funds for one goal:
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tonight liz cheney is responding to support for dr. anthony fauci and calling out president trump. >> reporter: congresswoman liz cheney defending herself from an all out ambush from members of her own party after a string of high profile splits she's had with president trump. >> the president appreciates people that are direct and explain what they think but i think most of the time far more of the time than we agree than disagree. >> reporter: on monday simmering tensions over those disagreements with trump boiled over into a heated closed door meeting with house republicans on capitol hill. >> it's a slow news day. >> reporter: a small group of the president's most loyal allies spoke up in a coordinated way chastising cheney in a way that's painful. >> she's out of step with a
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majority of trump supporters and republicans in the country. >> reporter: matt gaetz one of her chief critics accounted details as the president's defenders, members of the conservative house freedom caucus stood up and listed issue after issue where they believe cheney hasn't shown loyalty to the party or the president. over her public defense of dr. anthony fauci, her support of a primary challenger to tom massy and her splits with president trump that have grown more frequent over the last few months like this tweet featuring the former vice president saying real men wear masks and along with other republicans calling trump's plans to remove u.s. troops from germany dangerously misguided. calling cheney to step down from her leadership position or be removed and senator rand paul a long time critic of cheney over foreign policy accused cheney of trying to sabotage trump's foreign policy. telling cnn i don't think she's
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good for the country. and the president's son don junior tweeting that republicans already have one mitt romney, we don't need another. cheney shooting right back. >> well, donald trump junior is not a member of the house republican conference. >> reporter: sources say this is part of a larger fight brewing about the future of the gop after the election. cheney may run for next speaker of the house and congressman jim jordan, one of those who called out china this week has ambit n ambitions to run for the same spot, too. multiple sources tell cnn. those close to cheney say this is about her principles, not the politics of the moment. >> there are members of the republican caucus who have become the truth tellers, people like liz choeney. the pandemic is poll lit siitic has to stop. >> reporter: unlike other republicans, liz cheney so far has been immune to a counter punch from president trump.
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kate? >> stand by. thank you. appreciate that very much. thank you-all so much for joining us this evening. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" with john berman starts right now. the president did not once mention the single central fact of the coronavirus pandemic at the briefing tonight. the fact that almost 143,000 americans have now died. john berman here in for anderson. nor did the president utter a single word about another fact. the nation's daily death toll surpassed 1,000 and is on the brink of doing it again tonight. more than california eclipsed new york in total cases with texas about to do the same. the president made no mention of these new revised guidelines for reopening schools we were supposed to have seen by now which are being rewritten because the president considers the existing ones too tough. what we did hear with parents and teachers and school administ