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good morning, everyone. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. overnight the president held an anti-science rally. that's really what it was. the president spoke to a packed indoor rally in nevada. many. thousands inside were not wearing masks. that's against the rules in that state. the president was basically breaking the rules and mocking them. 194,000 americans have been killed by coronavirus. >> the president knows how risky and potentially deadly events like this are. he told bob woodward he knew it was airborne back in february. it is now fair to ask whether he cares. we're also hearing for the first time that he has no regrets. >> nothing more could have been done. nothing more could have been done. >> joining us now is the director of the center for infectious disease research and policy at the university of
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minnesota. also with us is dr. jody deon odom, from the university of alabama at birmingham. doctor, last night, that rally, what should henderson, nevada expect in the next couple of weeks? >> it's very likely that there will be a number of cases that will occur as a result of that rally. any time you have indoor air, and that's where you are bring people together, you can expect there's likely someone infected in that group who will then transmit the virus to others. >> professor, you've been adamant and i like this about you being forward looking and talking about what we can do now in going forward to fight this pandemic. how does this event help move us forward in the battle? >> it reinforces that we're over with this virus and in fact, again, only about 10% to 12% has
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been infected and this virus won't even slow its transmission down until we get to 50 to 70%. even if a vaccine were to come on the horizon, it would be another 12, 14 months that many u.s. citizens could be vaks nc e vaccinated if they wanted to be. i don't care what partisan nature a rally is or why you're having it, you do put people in harm's way. people were very confused when they heard about the protest and the die it was outdoor air. we've seen a lot of activity and people say that's outdoor, too? no, that was indoor bars, the tattoo shops, indoor air. going into the future that's something we have to be aware of is a major challenge. >> that's really interesting to
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hear that discontinutinctiodist. president donald trump's staff say people shouldn't be protesting if they shouldn't be in big groups. here is the seven-day average, you see it bouncing around at very alarming levels. according to johns hopkins it was at 8.9% positivity rate. the last time the president held an indoor rally was in tulsa, oklahoma in june and after that, his friend and supporter herman cain died. he came down with coronavirus, he went to this rally, did not have any symptoms, his temperature did not show any temperature and he died a few weeks later. so, dr. odom, i don't know if you can hear me, but this is
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what doctors are very worried about what's about to happen now in nevada. >> it is. yeah, alwaisyn, we haven't have magical thinking. each person with coronavirus will infect two to three other people and millions of people are totally asymptomatic. it's why we're talking about masking and distancing still six, seven months into it because those principles work. >> again, the subject of where we are this morning, the number of new daley cases whhas hovere between 30,000 and 40,000, dr. fauci says he wants it at 10,000. what are you most concerned about over the next few weeks? >> i think everyone's worried about having lots of young people coming together and the virus spreading. when you have 35,000 case as day
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still, most of our communities still have coronavirus in them. so we can't pretend our way through this or magical thinking our way out it have. we have to accept what's happening, look at the case count and take active measures every day to protect ourselves and our families. that's the only way we can do this. as we're waiting for a vaccine, we know what we should do. other countries have done it. we should, too. >> doctor, when you hear president donald trump in that sound bite saying nothing more could have been done, nothing more could have been done. he just said that a few weeks ago. why do you think he thinks that he could never figure out or get his arms around more testing, contact tracing, modelling, i mean, all of the things that other countries did to not be in the dire straits that we're in? >> i think, first of all, this virus is a challenge in any country you're in. we're seeing you're heat up substantially but at a much
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lower level than we were. they were talking about 35,000 cases a day. when we compare that to when the house was on fire in new york and we had 22,000 cases a day and we thought it can't get any worse. we're going to see this kind of up and down, up and down but each time it goes up it goes a little higher, each time it kom comes down, it doesn't come down as stfar. >> thank you both for being with us. and now let's take a look at traps sally. tell us where it is, where it's headed and how strong. >> right now we're looking at 65 miles an hour. the big story is it a slow
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storm. look at how slow this is. this is 1 a.m. on tuesday, 12 hours later, 1 p.m. tuesday, 1 a.m. on wednesday. the slow storms, they have more time to pile up the storm surge and produce dangerous flash flooding and rainfall. >> so the slower it moves, the more time it sits over these population centers dumping the rain. how much rain are you looking at? >> a dangerous situation in some of these areas because of the slow movement. we could see and the forecast can shift this a little bit so we're urging everybody to be prepared for this. some areas could get 15 to 20, maybe up to 24 inches of rain, the coastal alabama, even 10 to 15 inches inland to mississippi and alabama as well. >> the problem is it's a slow moving storm that's going to rain a lot, correct? >> absolutely, john.
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everybody always asks about how strong it going to be. it's not going to matter in this case. because of the size, how slow it is, because of the rainfall and all that time to pile up the water, 7 foot to 11 foot of storm surge and in alabama, mobile bay could see five to six foot of storm surge. >> this is sally. it's one of five named storms we're looking at now, which is an incredibly high number. >> every desk behind me is occupied. we're watching seven different areas. five advisories at once, the first time sense september 1971. >> any of those in particular that might make a coastal impact in the united states beyond sally? >> so far we're looking at most of these out along coast, we have advisories with paulet and
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berld, you can see out in the atlantic out there, most of these we have some rain. we're watching these very closely. >> now to the catastrophic wildfires burning in california, oregon and washington state. what's the situation this hour, stephanie? >> reporter: 24 of those deaths are in california. we are standing untder the bob cat here. i've been watching the glow and watching ash standing on my jacket as they continue to fight this one. this is just a state that is battling fires throughout the summer. we have seen this and it just
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taxing the firefighters here and the systems that are put in place where they can take these firefighters and move them from one part of the state to the other where they need them. there's just so many fires bushing here in the state, let alone what is happening in the western region where we have some 100 fires that have burned almost 5 million acres. so this has been a very difficult situation. it's very clear when you listen to the politicians here in california that they believe that this is because of the climate crisis. take a listen to what los angeles mayor eric fwgarcetti a california governor gavin newsom had to say. >> i listen to fire professionals, not the president of the united states or a politician when it comes to what causes these fires. it's been very clear, years of drought, whether it's too much water or toof ra much rain in p of our country right now, this
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is climate change. >> that's the reality we're facing, the smash mouth reality, this perfect storm. the debate is over around climate change. just come to the state of california. >> and to that point, 3.3 million acres have been burned in california so far in 2020, so 3,400 structures have been lost. where i'm standing now about 300 homes are evacuated. think about all of that happening throughout california, all of that while the state is still very much dealing with the coronavirus. so the masks, which many of them don't work for the smoke, my happens to work both ways but most people are worrying about keeping their family safe from the coronavirus and also dealing with the incessant smoke, which is also detrimental to lungs. >> stephanie be careful.
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had become the leader of the one nation suffering the most from the virus. the president came to this conclusion -- >> nothing more could have been done. nothing more could have been done. >> now to talk about this and more are cnn political commentator bakari sellers and scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush. great to see both of you this morning. scott, do you agree that president donald trump could have done nothing more to fight the virus? >> no, i don't. i mean, obviously when you look back on the situation, the government was slow on testing. rhetorically i think the president has had some missteps. it doesn't mean everything he's done has been bad or wrong and he certainly did the right thing on china and travel issues and ramping up the defense production act and now ramping up warped speed. you can't look at the results and what the american people think about it and say it was
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perfect. obviously people don't believe that. i also think there are a lot of public officials in our federal and state governments would say the same thing. if we held them to the stale sa -- same standard, you'd have to say the same thing about them, too. >> and, scott, one more thing. do you think that holding a big packed indoor rally in henderson, nevada is the right way to do that? >> i think outdoor events would probably be smarter and i do think they should encourage people to wear masks. i often wondered if they handed out branded trump 2020 masks if peop they would wear them. a lot of people in both parties are doing that. so i think it would be smart if
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the president did that as well. outdoor events strike me as smarter play. is there they strike all doctors as smarter. this isn't guesswork. they have traced event and a lot who are people get sick at indoor events at outdoor evenevents. >> bakari, what do you see? >> the rally last night was reprehensible, it was neglectful. it shows this lack of ability to take this virus seriously, which is why we were here. barack obama -- i think mitch mcconnell stated this. barack obama left a play book to ta deal with this virus. but they've dismantled so many things, simply because it came from the obama administration. now we have communities, particularly black and brown communities, which have been devastated as a disproportional rate because of this virus and
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our economy is at a point where it's going to take years to rev it back up and bring it to where it was. saying it's going to disappear and go away is just not healthy and is dangerous rhetoric. >> help us explain politically speaking, how does holding a big indoor rally with no mask mandate and breaking nevada's own state rules that don't allow for any gathering of more than 50 people, how is that a politically wise move for president donald trump? >> there are a significant number of people who support the president that think that we're being held to a double standard in this country, that if you're willing to go out and protest certain social issues, you get a pass. >> but those are outdoors. >> the minute you support the president you're held to a
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different standard. i'm telling you the truth. out here that's what people see and what they think. >> i believe you. shouldn't they see a distinction between indoors and outdoors? >> i agree. we're in the time of the year -- nevada is different weather but we're in the time of the year where outdoor events could be very useful to anybody running a political campaign right now. the indoor events are risky. not wearing a mask is risky. a lot of people who engage in risky behaviors -- i think people say if they can exercise free speech, so can i. >> you think it's politically wise for the president to do that because it does speak to the feeling of his base? >> no, i'm not saying it's wise. i'm saying there are reasons why they would do it and there are reasons why people would go to a rally but there are risks. what if there's an outbreak.
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what if one of these events causes a huge outbreak? i don't know whether it's wise or unwise. i wouldn't go to an indoor event right now truthfully. and i think a lot of people people the way i down. >> only 35% of the american public feels that -- approves of president donald trump's handling of covid. so it's been hovering at that number since july. explain the politics, bakari of this. >> it's hitting people right smack dab in the face right now. scott doesn't know this because they don't play a lot of football in kentucky. >> hey, easy, easy, easy, bakari. come on now. >> it's difficult because we cannot -- we can't even go watch
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our gamecocks play football, you can't fill the stadium and watch clemson play football right now. there a lot of people witnessing this in different ways. now you're looking at nfl games where no one is in the stands except for jacksonville. so high schools a some high schools are wondering if they're plays al all in is hitting people culturally and they're not able to enjoy it the same way. you can't just go sit in a bar right now and watch football with your friends. this is just a difficult time. it did not have to be this way is the thesis, but for donald trump. >> we have some sound from the rally. they were very clear about how they feel and what story line they're believing. so here is that. >> i don't have any of the
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symptoms and neither do they. and if they did, they wouldn't be here. we're not stupid people. >> reporter: you know the virus can be spread with people who don't have symptoms as well, right? >> of course. >> if i catch covid, that's the consequences of my action. i'm willing to take that risk and enjoy myself today. >> people who wear masks are sensationalists. you want to give o of that vibe of doing something right. doing something right is being here, being patriotic and rooting for my president. >> reporter: doesn't science say being outside in the sun kills the virus? >> yes, that's what they said. >> scott, what do you think when you hear that? >> i pray for the safety of everybody who winds up in the
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situation of getting coronavirus. it's deadly. i worry about folks who go to big events. i worry about the protesters. i see them on tv. any kind of an event right now, it worrisome because people have died and are dying. >> do you wish that president donald trump gave them the real scoop, what he knew in february, that it was going to be five times more deadly than the flu? do you think that would have helped those folks hear that? >> can i chime in and help scott real quick? i don't think that these individuals would necessarily cha change their mind simply because of something that donald trump said. it's like a different world. when people consume their news from facebook and all of these different conspiracies, you see people -- it was so funny when she was saying you're not watching the science. we're like what are you talking about? these individuals who have this
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undying affection for donald trump, you see them show up at the rallies and willing to get covid for their president, it's just a really weird time and i'm not sure there's anything that could be done to get those people to think differently, behave differently or actually act -- >> i don't know. i think people do listen to their leaders. i think people are quite impressionable based upon what their leaders say. that's why we elect leaders. but you could be right. let's hope it isn't undying affection. we hope there haven't a spike in henderson but history will tell us otherwise. and coming you, a man who made the climate crisis the focus of his presidential campaign, tom steyer, joins us with what he's saying next. at kay, we believe that nothing should get in the way of love. shop your way, in-store or online. kay jewelers.
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candidate tom steyer. he made climate change the focus of his campaign and of his career. >> there's no doubt, john, about the connection between climate chang and these fires. in california we've had record breaking heat this entire summer and at levels that are for people in california who know what it means, really shocking we got the highest temperature recorded in human history in death valley, but we also got 120 degrees last week in saab lewis obisbo. so to have the worst fires by far followed by the greatest heat in history by far, it's
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inescapable there's a link between the two and that this is an urgent crisis that hassingha dealt with immediately. >> you're hearing from those fighting them saying there's something qualitatively different about these fires that just make it harder to battle. >> i don't think there's any question about that, john. it's also the number of fires. we've got three of the four biggest fires in california history going on right now. so that the firefighters who have done a fantastic job are stretched incredibly thin. you know, these are intense, huge blazes. i think people across the united states know that this year just in california we've burned up more acreage than exists in the state of connecticut. this is a huge, immediate, urgent problem. >> there's no question it's an immediate and urgent problem.
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i wonder what if this were happening in states that mattered in the electoral college? what if it wasn't oregon, washington, what if this was happening in wisconsin, what if this was happening in florida? we see hurricanes and every politician in the country descends on the state. >> i any we all knthink we all a global issue with the fires. we've seen floods, we've seen hurricanes, you know, in the midwest and in florida, in every one of those states. so, yes, we are suffering here realtime in california. but, in fact, this is a global problem. look, this is crying out for national and international leadership. the number one thing we can do is elect a different president who going to recognize the
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problem, deal with it forcefully at home, deal with it forcefully overseas. it's the only solution we have to this problem is honest to god, joe biden. >> and donald trump who will be in california has not acknowledged the role that climate change played, has blamed forest management. what role does forest management have in these changes? >> one is to try and prevent the climate from changing and the problems and the second is to deal with the problems that exist. mr. trump is playing politics by denying the issue and then saying we're not dealing with the problems, we're not adapting to this. in fact, the federal government run by donald john trump owns
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half of california. he's playing politics with the pain and suffering of the american citizens. it's reprehensible. it got to end. >> what are issues surrounding climate change and the coronavirus pan demmic? >> there's absolutely a through line. we have a president who will not act on scientific data and believes he can make up the truth himself. that has caused the deaths of americans, thousands or tens of thousands, additional americans who didn't have to die as a result of his failures in coronavirus. what we're seeing in his four years of actually intentionally exacerbating climate change is a president who can't deal with the facts and doesn't realize a basic point, which is that if we deal with climate change, we can create millions of good paying,
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union, middle class jobs, we can make ourselves healthier, particularly in underserved black and brown communities where the air stinks and the water is undrinkable, and we can also deal with a huge issue confronting the health and safety of every single american. this is a signal failure of leadership but the president of the united states. >> tom steyer, we appreciate having you on the show. good to see you again. glad to see the tie hasn't changed, even if the candidacy is gone. we're not saying climate change starts the fire, but climate change contributes to the way they burn and the intensity of the way they burn. and now every vote is crucial in california. >> do you feel your vote could
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be a deciding vote in this election? >> oh yes. i feel this could be very, very close. >> we have reporting from one of the key swing counties next. a live bookkeeper is helping
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breaking overnight, early absentee voting was supposed to start in pennsylvania. not a single county is ready to send out ballots to voters just 50 days ahead of election day. what have you learned, vanessa? >> alisyn, this is a significant hiccup for voters in pennsylvania. many are eager to get to the polls. both democrats and republicans there know that the margin that trump won by in that county made a difference in his victory in pennsylvania.
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>> in pivot aal lucern county, pennsylvania -- >> my neighbor always put up obama signs so i wanted to get back on them. >> they said, hey, trump signs are in and people started flooding in. >> lucerne could be crucial to deciding pennsylvania this year. it happened in 2016 when the county which barack obama carried twice backed president donald trump by 26,000 votes. overall he won pennsylvania by less than one point. >> if you're running for the office, you ignore northeastern pennsylvania at your peril. >> trump promised to bring back
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manufacturing are the largest industry here and in 2016, industry jobs grew. in pennsylvania, they gave trump the edge on handling the economy. >> i do think trump will do a good job with helping to bring back the economy. >> reporter: he voted for trump on that very issue, something that democrats and republicans here say is their number one concern. his fanly owns sever-- family ol pizza shops. two didn't survive the pandemic. but it's the issue of policing and race in america that has him questioning his vote. >> a lot of african-americans i think have been left behind on a lot of policies. i don't think donald trump has done -- he's done some things to help. i don't think he's done enough compared to the window of opportunity that we have right
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now. >> reporter: across the street jay's record shop also took a hit during the pandemic. he closed for two and a half months, collecting unemployment for the first time. >> the effects of the pandemic could have been less if we took the right initiative and had leadership at the beginning of the pandemic and we did not. and now we know that trump actually knew but downplayed it. that is a disgrace. >> reporter: with pennsylvania's battle ground status, voters in lucerne say they're prepared for another close race. do you feel like your vote could be a deciding vote in this election? >> oh yes. i feel it could be very, very, very close. >> reporter: now the candidates know how critical lucerne county is to pennsylvania. vice president pence was just there visiting within the last month. and particularly for democratic voters i spoke to, we know that
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joe biden will be in scranton, pennsylvania later this week but democratic voters are really hoping that joe biden makes an appearance in lucerne county, something hillary clinton did not do and democrats there felt like they were forgotten. they hope that joe biden doesn't make that same mistake. alisyn. >> vanessa, really interesting to hear how those voters are feeling today. thank you very much. join anderson cooper for a special presidential town hall with joe biden. cnn has reporters around the world covering the latest developments. >> reporter: here in jerusalem, the country is preparing for a second general lockdown after a surge in coronavirus cases last week that looks like it's continuing to this week.
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4,217 new cases in a day and that marked three straight days of more than 4,000 cases. it because of those cases that prime minister benjamin netanyahu announced a three-week closure right before the high holidays. citizens will be required to stay within a quarter mile of their home, schools and restaurants closed except for takeout and delivery, entertainment and leisure venues will be closed as israel tries to get these numbers under control. here in paris a new worrying record set on saturday, the number of new cases above 10,000. the french prime minister spoke to the nation on friday night saying that the figure he was really worried about was the rise in the number of hospitalizations. there is no suggestion, though, that france heading to a second general lockdown with the french prime minister announcing that on a country he was handing to local authorities now, the responsibility of fresh measures
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to try and contain the latest rises with two of the big hot spots at the moment expected to give him the measures to bring the numbers back under control. so an architect is challenging the homes are built in puerto rico. she's one of cnn's champions for change next.
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all this week cnn is highlighting change makers dr redefines what is possible. we call them champions for change. we are talking about a bold project in puerto rico, how they
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are building storm-proof homes through shipping containers. >> there were about 70,000 homes destroyed, some had no roof, some had only a toilet standing. we don't have to live this way. my company is challenging the way we look at construction. we're using shipping containers as a base structure. i'm a third generation architect. my grandfather and my father are both architects. they've always taught me that being part of a community and helping out that community is actually really important. some days after hurricane maria, i joined fema to work as a construction inspector. i remember this one case a lady came into us and we couldn't find the house. and we couldn't find the house
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because there was absolutely nothing left. the desperation in that woman's face, i'm just never going to forget it. the name of my company is called conti design studio. in spanish, it combines into many surprises, for example, with you, as in you can take your home with you. >> these actually look really good. there's no holes on the roof, there's no holes on the walls. this is a really beautiful container, a really beautiful future home. >> our first home was build on an island off the coast of puerto rico and was one of the worst off communities after hurricane maria. hello! when i come visit the owners of this hours, it makes me so happy to see this couple was actually able to get their dream because
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it was more cost effective and faster. it's probably one of my proudest moments. >> translator: i open those doors and i'm in paradise. it was her dream to have something that is ours and we achieved it. at first we didn't have a lot of faith, but she fought for us to build. >> translator: she lives with her hair standing on end waiting to see people get hit by another hurricane. this is the best option. >> almost three years after hurricane maria, the island is experiencing a string of earthquakes. in the south part of the island, this has left some homes and businesses uninhabitable. we are using one of our homes as a health command center in order to be able to distribute
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supplies and aid to the people that have been affected by the earthquakes. communities have gathered together and built camps where they're sleeping in tents in open spaces. >> i lost everything. but that's okay, i'm going to get up again. with the help of god. >> the median income in puerto rico is about $20,000, when the average home costs about $100,000. the math just doesn't add up. our kont 1 model goes for about half the price of those in puerto rico. the goal is produce a hundred units a month. we can use it for disaster
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relief and we want to produce them here in puerto rico and ship them all around the world. >> i got to say talk about innovation, right? >> i was just thinking that. puerto rico's been hit so hard. you need creative minds like that to help. >> we will continue to share these inspirational stories all week long. be sure to watch our champions for change one-hour special this saturday at 10 p.m., hosted by who it. >> i argued for bigger print there. it's hosted by alisyn camerota and john berman. our coverage continues next. of e tooth's surface. pronamel is formulated to help deliver minerals to the tooth's surface to help reharden and strengthen your enamel. ♪ this feeling watch me while i break the ceiling ♪
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i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. if you don't live on the west coast, watch these pictures,less wrenn to these stories, devastating wildfires scorching multiple states. at least 35 confirmed dead and dozens missing across california, oregon and washington state. tens of thousands of firefighters are battling these flails, it's a military-like operation all under a cloud of dense smoke. millions of acres have been burned so far. the weather coming could make it even worse. this is someone driving through it trying to escape with their lives. trump will head to company today after taking criticism for not doing more. and the president's rally last night, thousands of supporters packed indoors in a pandemic defying science and defying the governor's orders. many of them not wearing ma


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