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fast-moving developments, tonight. donald trump's presidency, unraveling. twitter, permanently, banning him. saying it's taking the action, due to the risk of further incitement of violence. and trump's gop support, starting to crumble. senator lisa murkowski, the first republican senator calling for trump to resign telling an anchorage newspaper, and i quote here, i want him out. he has caused enough damage. this as house speaker nancy pelosi demands trump resign, immediately, or democrats will move to impeach him, starting monday, for inciting insurrection. joining me now, cnn white house correspondent, john harwood. and senior congressional correspondent, manu raju.
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gentlemen, hello to both of you. john, the presidency is unraveling, donald trump's presidency. but now, "the new york times" is reporting that he is regretting that. what is going on, inside the white house? >> we've got a mentally unstable man, who still has the most formidable powers in the world, for the next 11 or 12 days, who is raging against his defeat. he suffered a grievous, psychic injury. he can't accept it. he is out of touch with reality. all of washington is scared, and people are trying to figure out how to keep him from doing more harm to the country than he's already done with -- by inciting the insurrection on wednesday. and so, you've got nancy pelosi, the house speaker, communicating with the chairman of the joint chiefs. you've got talk about the 25th amendment. you've got cabinet officers and
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white house aides resigning. all, people -- an impeachment effort going on or getting under way in the house. all of this is part of an effort to pressure the president into not doing further things that are dangerous. and it got a response. he reacted to the pressure, with that statement, last night, where he acknowledged he's not going to be president after january 20th. but, of course, as with all statements of that kind that he's browbeaten into making, he doesn't really mean it. and he can't accept the reality of the situation. >> manu, you have been at the capitol all week. these images show that it's still a disaster. but democrats are pushing forward with impeachment. what are you hearing about their plans? >> yeah. they are moving pretty quickly because what nancy pelosi is saying to her members is that, if the president does not resign or vice president mike pence does not invoke the 25th amendment, along with the cabinet, taking those
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extraordinary, constitutional measures to force a president out of office. if that doesn't happen, she is saying the house is going to move forward. and they're already taking steps to begin that impeachment process. a very quick one, by any historical standards. this would be lightning fast to bring an impeachment resolution to the floor, in just a matter of days. what they are looking at is, by monday, officially, introducing an article of impeachment for inciting insurrection. they'll go on one count. it'll detail his actions since the election, culminating in his incitement of that violent mob on wednesday. and then, when the house, assuming they go forward and they vote, the house would vote probably by midweek, next week. and then, the question will be how quickly will that move to the senate? when would they actually have a senate trial? because, don, tonight, all indications are pointing to that any senate trial would occur after donald trump leaves office. after january 20th, when the democrats take control of the
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senate. at that point, they could move to bar him from running from future office, again, if they have the support to do just that. that's the question. are republicans going to go along with this effort. by now, we know most, if not all, democrats are going to go along with it. how will republicans ultimately come down will be the big question, don. >> let's talk a bit more about republicans because majority leader mitch mcconnell sending a memo to senators, tonight, outlining how impeachment -- the impeachment trial would work. talk to me about that. >> yeah. it was basically saying he's not going to be able to do anything, under the current process because, under the senate rules, they have set a schedule, already, up until january 19th. january 19th's the first day senate would come back into session to conduct legislative business. it would require all 100 senators to bring the senate back, before january 19th, and they are not going to get the support of all 100 senators to begin an impeachment trial.
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so essentially, what he is saying is any impeachment trial will start january 20th, after joe biden becomes president. and once the democrats take control of the senate majority, that same time. so, the beginning, few days of the biden administration could be consumed with an impeachment trial of the former president, donald trump. such an extraordinary time, don. the concern among people is that, potentially, this could be a distraction for the biden team in the early onset, as he is trying to get his cabinet filled, trying to focus on his domestic agenda. which is one reason why biden did not embrace this idea, when asked about it today. asked if it was a good idea, he said i'll let the congress decide what to do. i want to focus on my agenda. a sign that, perhaps, he wants to get this over with and we'll see how quickly democrats can get it over with. >> i think most people would think, manu, that they can walk and chew gum at the same time. biden can continue on with his agenda, and the congress, meaning the senate and -- and the house, can move on with
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their impeachment as well. and they have a better chance with the next senate of actually getting this done, when they're in the majority at least. the vice -- the vice president would break the tie but not on this because they would need more votes but they have a better chance in the next senate, upcoming senate, don't they? >> yeah, at least to begin some of the process that -- to try to set the rules for the debate here. they would need in the -- they would have a majority support to set -- set the parameters for a trial. but getting to the threshold that they would need to move forward with barring the president from office, for instance, uncertain if they would be able to get to that point. >> yeah. as i said, a better chance. not necessarily, a guarantee. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. i want to bring in now, cnn senior political analyst, kirsten powers. also, mark mckinnon, executive producer of the circus on show time. and also, political commentator, anna navarro. lord. and i mean that.
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i just had to take a breath because this is just nuts, anna. countless republicans, as you know, who have enabled this president for years, now trying to rewrite history. this is -- here -- this is marco rubio, earlier today. and a ktrt houston exclusive interview with ted cruz. watch this. >> many of those, in that mob, were believers in a ridiculous conspiracy theory and others were lied to. lied to, by politicians that were telling them that the vice president had the power to change the election results. >> the president's language and rhetoric crossed a line and it was reckless. i disagree with it. and i have disagreed with the president's language and rhetoric, for the last four years. >> you know these guys. they were trump's water boys. they carried his water. and, anna, you are now livid, i know. >> i would use another word that's not water boy, but i'm not going to.
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look. it's disgusting. it's disgusting for them to think that people are going to forget the complicity of republicans, like marco rubio, like ted cruz, like lindsey graham, like so many others, who sold out their principles. who sold their souls, in order to be close to power, in order to -- on air force one, to get the cuba policy they wanted, to get the supreme court nominees that they wanted. that they allowed this indecent, demented, deranged narcissist to take hold of the country, to take hold of the party. they completely sold out their principles, and while they were busy tweeting out bible verses, or giving sanctimonious speeches on the floor of the senate, donald trump has been doing this. but this -- this is what people need to understand. what we saw, this week, did not happen in a vacuum. the reason donald trump could incite, to violence, that way, is because he's gotten away with everything. because republicans have allowed
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him to get away with everything. they play dumb and look the other way. they did it after charlottesville. they did it when he put children in cages. they did it when he attacked black lives matter. they did it when he inspired, in white supremacists, to hunt down hispanics in el paso. so, you know what, guys, it's a little damn late. this is your legacy. look at yourselves in the mirror, and live with the fact that you sold out in order to be close to power. and you have now created a constitutional crisis, in the worst moment in american history. you own this. >> mark, lisa murkowski is the first republican senator to call on trump to resign. a new pbs/marist poll shows 88% of americans oppose that. even 80% of republicans. do you think other senators
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could follow lisa murkowski? >> i do, don. this week, republican party clawed its way to the bottom, with donald trump leading the way. so, the question is where does the party go from here? and we are seeing some -- the beginning of the division that's happening now with these -- people like lisa murkowski and liz cheney and others who are beginning to break from the -- the trump coalition. and so, i think we're -- i think we're going to see more of that, over the next couple days. and more of that, over the next couple years. and more of that, going into 2024. before this week, i would have said that donald trump had a stranglehold on the republican party. i don't think that's the case, anymore. i think that there is a growing division, and by the way, i think that the -- the twitter action, today, was the -- the -- maybe, the most significant act of counterterrorism during domestic -- domestically, in the whole trump administration. i talked to olive ia troy, toda who worked for mike pence, and interestingly, she said that when the whole discussion of domestic terrorism came up, that they -- she was either ignored or rejected because people
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around the president thought that they were trump supporters. >> really? wow. wow. >> yeah. >> kirsten, i think it was you -- go on, mark. >> i was just going to say i think that might attract some -- some hearings on that issue. >> yeah. kirsten, i think it was you, we had a conversation. i'm not sure if it was on air or off. that, i think you said that people are underestimating the gravity of the situation, what happened. and that we haven't fully realized it. the pictures are horrible but there was going to be more fallout from this than we realize. i think that was you. americans are horrified at the images of domestic terrorists, storming the capitol. i mean, they need to know who these people are. who are these insurrectionists? who are confident about accountability here? >> i'm not. i'm not. you know, and i think the -- you know, the -- the question is, you know, to sort of mark's point is, is this the bottom? i mean, we don't really know if
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this is the bottom. and i don't know how you put this -- the genie back in the bottle. maybe, you get some republican leaders who -- who condemn this and go against it. but, you know, they let -- as anna was saying, they let this go on, for four years, and -- and let donald trump basically create this cult of people. who we've seen not just what they did, you know, at the capitol. but where you see them harassing, you know, lindsey graham, who also helped create this monster. you see them harassing mitt romney, who has stood up against them. i mean, these people are out of control. that video that you showed earlier, which was unwatchable, you know, of an officer being crushed. >> uh-huh. >> you know, these are people who do not believe in anything that they say they believe in. they only believe in donald trump because they say -- these are the same people, the same president, who attacked black lives matter. who is always talking about blue lives matter. and look what they are doing to police officers. you know, they are getting in fights with police officers.
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they're crushing them. they are punching them in the face. i mean, the only thing they believe in is donald trump. and the last thing i'm going to say is this was, and you know, don, we all know, all of us know, because we all said it. this was the most predictable thing that could ever have happened. and everybody who predicted this was called crazy and trump-derangement syndrome and all these other things. and this was always where this was leading. >> yeah. and listen. we are going to play that video. hang on. i just want to tell our viewers. we are going to play that video kirsten just referenced after the break. but, anna, let me say this and then you can comment. i really do have to go because we have a lot of show. when i saw the hoards of people you will see in that video, i want you to imagine that being a group of darker people in that crowd, trying to crush. and what -- i think i have agreement, unanimous agreement, from here. i think that there would have been more blood shed and more arrests. anna. >> would have been a massacre. >> listen.
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what i was going to tell you is i'm not as optimistic about where the republican party goes from here, as mark is. and i do think that there's notable exceptions, like mitt romney. like, liz cheney. like adam kinzinger. but, after what happened on wednesday, after people got killed, after they had to hunker down, 138 republican congressmen still voted for this trump charade that's been feeding highs to hlies to his supporters. and seven senators did the same. including, shameful ted cruz and josh hawley because they are looking at their personal, presidential ambitions. and putting that, over country and over national security. >> well, good luck with that. good luck with that, for both of them. especially, after this. thank you, all. appreciate it. thanks so much. next, that powerful video we just mentioned. you have got to see it. showing exactly how brutal the riot was at the capitol. a riot, incited by the president
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of the united states. >> i wish he would just do what nixon did and that's step down. somebody ought to go up there and tell him it's over. plane's waiting for you. you're out. 3 made-for-you formulas with 2% pha exfoliate and condition for soft, balanced skin. find the one. neutrogena®
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okay. so, we have some new video, tonight. and i need you to see this. we showed it last hour. we are playing it again, because it is important. it does come with a warning that this footage is really, really disturbing. what you are about to see is a
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mob of rioters on the west side of the capitol fighting, violently, to get into the building. here it is. >> just go home. okay? you see me. just go home. talk to your buddies and go home. i'm not hurting you.
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>> help! ah! >> if that doesn't move you and it doesn't get you to see just the horror in all of this.
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these you-know-whats doing what they're doing, it shook me, and it should shake you. ap office an officer, a man crushed in the door by a mob of rioters. you hear him screaming? those rioters who did that showed up at the capitol, after the president incited them. they went there because they were told, by trump, that the election had been stolen from them. that they were having their rights taken away from them. the officer crushed in that doorway. we don't know his condition, now. cnn did speak to the person who captured this footage. he says police did, eventually, succeed in fending off these rioters from entering the capitol, at this spot. though, the exact location, again, we think, was on the west side. but it is, specifically, unclear.
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the man that shot this footage, also, said of the rioters, nothing really fazed them. they just kept rotating, in and out. they would say, we need fresh patriots. this was not patriotic. this was an attempted coup. this was some messed-up stuff. incited by the president of the united states. but, you know what? federal prosecutors are announcing charges against 13 people, connected to that attack on the capitol. law enforcement now searching for more of the people involved, as investigators try to piece together just how this riot, that killed five people, unfolded. here is alex marquardt with the latest. >> reporter: this is the moment president donald trump launched the riot. >> we're going to walk down
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pennsylvania avenue. >> reporter: telling his supporters he'd have their back. >> we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you. >> reporter: trump's family doing what they could to egg on the crowd. >> we will never, ever, ever stop fighting. >> we are in this fight to the bitter end. >> this the donald trump's republican party. >> reporter: and rudy giuliani, literally, talking about taking up arms. >> let's have trial by combat. >> reporter: then, they get back into their cars and leave, as the crowd unleashed and fired up, makes its way to the capitol. it isn't long before the rioters manage to get through the police line. overwhelming the officers and breaking through the barricades. the insurrection is underway. now, two major questions. why wasn't security stronger? and who is this mob, whose riot led to the deaths of five people? >> there was a failure of -- of leadership at the top of the
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capitol police. >> reporter: immediate blame is placed on the head of the capitol police, who defends his officers, saying they acted valiantly. but last night, he agreed to step down. the house sergeant at arms resigns as well. recognition of their failure to keep the capitol secure and lawmakers safe. how valiantly the capitol police performed is, very much, in question. one officer takes a selfie with a rioter. here, others are seen stepping aside from a doorway, allowing the rioters to try to get through. moments later, a plain-clothes officer shoots through the door, hitting a woman, an air force veteran, who dies. as the chaos grew, there were frantic calls to get support, from the pentagon, from the national guard, from anyone. >> i got a phone call from house majority leader steny hoyer, who was calling me saying that he and speaker pelosi and senator schumer were all together, in an undisclosed bunker.
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they'd been spirited off to. some undisclosed location that the u.s. capitol police was overwhelmed. that there was no federal hlaw enforcement presence, and that the leaders -- leaders of congress were pleading with me, as the governor of maryland, for assistance from maryland's national guard and state police. >> reporter: governor larry hogan says special, riot police were on the way. and agrees to send maryland's national guard. but, he says, that was held up by the pentagon, which needs to approve. it didn't happen, hogan said, for another 90 minutes. >> in the meantime, we did not hesitate. we continued to mobilize and -- and get ready, so that, if, and when, we finally got that approval, we could immediately move. >> reporter: the pentagon, now defending itself. saying it offered assistance to the capitol police, days before the january 6th riot. but was turned down. >> we engaged with the capitol police, last week and into the weekend. they confirmed, to us, after our
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request, they were going to come to us with any request for assistance. on sunday, 3, january, that they were not going to have any request for assistance for dod. >> reporter: the d.c. national guard had been told by the mayor of washington to be unarmed and only to help with traffic in the subway. so far, there has been no serious response, by law enforcement. for most of the afternoon, the rioters swarmed the capitol. unchallenged. not until nightfall did reinforcement finally help push the rioters back. there is this long line of metropolitan police. so, that's the washington, d.c. police. who, in the past half hour, have slowly, methodically, peacefully, pushed these trump supporters back from the capitol. by then, the damage was done. rioters got onto the senate floor, where vice president mike pence had just sat. this one, with plastic handcuffs. as another, with a smile on his
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face, snags speaker pelosi's podium. congressional offices trashed. congressman jim clyburn insinuating that rioters had been told where to find his unmarked office. >> where my name was. you won't find my name. but they found where i was supposed to be. so, something else is going on untoward here. >> reporter: another rioter told "the new york times" that a capitol police officer directed him to senate minority leader chuck schumer's office. in pelosi's office, this man kicked his foot up on her desk. he has now been identified as richard barnett. arrested and charged with three federal counts, including theft of public property. arrests and charges are pouring in. almost 100 total arrests, for the week. west virginia state legislator, derek evans, who recorded himself storming the capitol, faces criminal charges. the justice department says, so far, 13 people face federal
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charges. 40 were charged in superior court. assault cases, firearms cases. one man charged had filled his red pick-up truck with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle, and a handgun. the vehicle's found by a bomb squad near the capitol. future charges, d.c. federal prosecutor said, could include seditious conspiracy, rioting, and insurrection. the d.c. police and fbi putting out photos of persons of interest. asking for help from the public to bring justice to those who brought such a dark day to america. alex marquardt, cnn, washington. >> all right, alex, thank you very much for that. social media companies combatting the online calls for violence. permanently, banning trump from twitter. but is it too little, too late?
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twitter, permanently, suspending president trump's personal and campaign accounts, aztec a as tech and social media companies crack down on hateful and extreme right-wing speech. google banning parlor from the android app store. a move, apple is reportedly considering as well. and steve bannon's youtube channel has been banned but is it too little, too late? let's discuss now. cnn chief media correspondent is brian stelter. good evening to you. so, critics calling for trump to be banned from twitter for a very long time. why is this happening now? >> because he is about to leave office. he can't hurt these companies with regulation, anymore. and now, it's a lot easier to ban him. sorry, don, is that cynical? because that's the truth. but the official reasons, from twitter and from facebook and youtube, is that trump is using these platforms, potentially, inciting violence. and that is a very real fear
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among the technology companies. they are looking ahead, to inauguration day. they are worried about further protests, that could turn into riots in the days leading up to inauguration day. they are looking at some of the tweets that are being posted. and saying there could be further violence. what we are seeing is online radical -- online radicalization, extremism, taking root in real life, in reality, in washington. and twitter doesn't want to be responsible. these executives don't want any more blood on their hands, don. >> yeah. and you know, he tried to figure out a workaround for his twitter ban, by tweeting from the official potus account. that was quickly deleted, as well. but he hinted at plans to create, quote, our own platform. what's that all about, brian? >> he can try to do that. he can go off to fringe-social-media networks. he does have many other ways to communicate with the public. i'm not going to tell you anything that he hasn't already thought about. but, you know, donald trump has an e-mail list with tens of millions of e-mail addresses. he has text message phone
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numbers for many, many americans. this campaign, this white house, has lots of ways to reach the public. and it's the twitter feed that the president's been obsessed with, and that is why this is such a blow to him, personally. and why we have to wonder about how he is handling this. look, don, for four years there have been concerns about the president's mental health. i know, sometimes, that's an uncomfortable thing to bring up. but it is front and center, right now. all of his toys have been taken away. his megaphone's been taken away. twitter, facebook, and all the rest. he can claim he is going to run off to some fringe website no one's ever heard of but that's not going to have the same impact as twitter. >> he could just do what the -- what the -- i was just going to say real presidents did before him, and that was put out a press release. but, you know, hey. >> hold a press conference. >> exactly. hold a press conference. thank you, brian. i appreciate it. thanks so much. the feds say police found a truck full of bombs and guns near the capitol during the riot. those details are next. s-
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so, we have some breaking news on the investigation into the insurrection at the u.s. capitol. federal prosecutors say police found a truck packed with bombs and guns, just two blocks from the capitol building, on wednesday. we are also learning about a man charged with allegedly texting that he wanted to shoot house speaker nancy pelosi. it comes, as a new video posted
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online shows rioters breaking through police barricades and threatening pelosi. >> [ bleep ]. >> cara joins me now. cara, thank you, appreciate it. what are you learning about this threat to the house speaker? >> well, don, this is one of several threats that we are learning about, that have been detailed in federal charges, today. this situation involving a pick-up truck. there was a pick-up truck, from alabama, that was parked two blocks from the u.s. capitol. inside authorities say were 11 homemade bombs. and inside, these mason jars, there were materials that prosecutors say would have been the equivalent, if ignited, of napalm. now, in addition to those 11 molotov cocktails, they also found an assault rifle and a pistol. when they did apprehend this man, hours after this truck was
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there, sitting, just two blocks from the capitol. as all of this was going on, undetected. they did track down the man, and, on him, they also found a pistol and he was charged with having an unregistered weapon. but it is one of several criminal charges that we are seeing, as prosecutors really begin to detail, to the public, just the kind of size and danger that was just so close to the capitol, and even inside the capitol, don. >> all right, cara, thank you. i appreciate your reporting, this evening. incitement of insurrection. that's what democrats are citing as a reason to impeach trump. what are the chances he will be the first president to be impeached twice? so grab nightshift to fight your symptoms, get your zzz's... and get back to your rhythm. feel the power. beat the symptoms fast.
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a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to and never go to the post office again. the house speaker, nancy pelosi, issuing president trump a stark choice. resign, immediately. or face impeachment, for the second time. white house advisers say, as of tonight, there is no chance trump will resign. if he doesn't, house democrats, they plan to introduce an impeachment resolution, on monday. accusing trump of inciting insurrection. let's discuss with cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein and harry litman who is a former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general. good evening, gentlemen. harry, first. so, cnn obtained a draft of the impeachment resolution against president trump. a single article. incitement of insurrection. it's about the worst thing a president can do, so give me your thoughts.
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>> it's about the worst thing a president can do. look, don, it's breathtaking. this -- no -- no law is more important to a democracy than fair elections, peaceful transfer of power. and you have a president, who's carried on a two-month campaign to eviscerate it. culminating, in working up a lynch mob of domestic terrorists to ransack the capitol. and as you just heard, by the way, looked to assassinate the speaker of the house. no crime and misdemeanor has ever been higher than this, in the history of the presidency. >> harry, the -- the current draft includes the president's call, pressuring georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger to find votes to overturn the election. why include that? >> just -- it includes it but it doesn't change the count. so, it includes it as a paragraph, just for evidence. to show his intent, which will be the big issue here, at least it would in a court of law. in the senate, it's what the senate wants it to be.
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but it shows this is part of an ongoing campaign. he's been doing it since november 4th, and this is just a vivid example of what he is doing, and why he is doing it. >> all right. to ron now. president trump could be the -- the -- well, be the first president impeached twice. i want you to listen to what two of the authors of the resolution told cnn today. here it is. >> it was a coup to try to keep president trump in power. and we just can't simply say you know what? let's just wait 12 days. he'll be gone. we have a responsibility to hold him accountable. >> he incited this mob to invade the capitol-l not because congrs was debating tax cuts but because we were accepting the certified electoral college results that show joe biden and kamala harris are going to be the president and vice president. so, he was attempting a coup and an insurrection and that's what this article of impeachment addresses. >> ron, when you hear that, what choice did lawmakers have after the president incited violence, to stop the peaceful transition
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of power? >> yeah, look. i mean, there is an overwhelming sense among democrats that there have to be consequences for this. if, for no other reason, than to make it less likely to happen again. there -- you know, whether that is impeachment, whether that is prosecution. i think they feel like there could be both. my understanding is they have over 160 co-sponsors, already. when they introduced this on monday, it will probably be higher by the time it is introduced. they believe they could have it on the floor, sometime next week. a provision, in it, would bar trump from holding federal office, ever again. but getting all the way over to 218 may be complicated. i mean, there are only 222 democrats now. many fewer than in the last congress. there is not a lot of movement among republicans. i mean, he got -- you know, he got a loud ovation, on thursday morning, when he called into the republican national committee, and a national poll tonight. his approval rating among republicans was still 77%. but i think democrats are very committed that there needs to be
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a consequence. and if it's not impeachment, i think many of them are looking to prosecution, which would be a -- an interesting and important decision for the biden justice department. >> yeah. certainly, will be. harry, to you again. the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, says any senate impeachment trial would not start before trump leaves office, unless there is an agreement of all 100 senators. what would a trial look like, under a democratic-led senate? >> well, first, it would be pretty unusual. it's happened once, and even then, it's not clear. the senate will, ultimately, decide this, don. that's the major point. if they want to have it after, they can have it after. but it's trouble for biden, i think. right now, he's got a sort of pitch-perfect tone saying congress will do that. i am doing covid. but if he begins his administration, his work on covid and the economy, simultaneous with an impeachment trial going on, against a former president who's already left office, that begins to be sort
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of, you know, feet tripping over each other. and it's problematic. can it be done, legally, after trump left office? if there are arguments on either side but the -- the short answer is if the senate thinks it can, then it can. there is no court that can decide, otherwise. >> so, ron, is this about -- about protecting president trump? or protecting republicans? or both? >> mcconnell delaying? i think -- i think, both. look. i mean, there -- the -- it is an open question, whether republicans are willing to confront the magnitude of what happened. you know, there -- as -- as i said, before, anti-democratic sentiment, small-d democratic sentiment, is spreading in the party as -- as the fear of demographic eclipse broadens in the republican coalition. i mean, there's -- there's no question in polling that there are a lot of republican voters who are open to anti-democratic, small d, means. and whether republicans, you
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know, for all -- for all the noise, a majority of house republicans voted, after the riot, to overturn the results in arizona and pennsylvania. in effect, to say, we want donald trump to be president for four more years. so, the party really, i don't think, has come full -- to the full grips with the magnitude of what has happened. mcconnell, as he often does, is trying to shield them from that. but, as i say, democrats, i think, are committed that there have to be consequences of some sort because we have watched, as harry said, for two months. an escalating campaign, through every possible means of pressuring state legislatures, and going to the courts. and now, unleashing a mob to try to overturn an election. and if you basically say, okay, that's it. clock's run out. walk away. you are asking for more trouble down the road. >> setting a very bad precedent. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. i will see you soon. enjoy your weekend. thanks for watching, everyone. what a week, huh? our coverage continues.
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