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we'll, of course, wait and see if more local counties try to handle that. >> andy scholes, thank you for being with us. "new day" continues right now. i never imagined this was what was going to happen. i just thought maybe he was being arrested. >> the fallout from the death of daunte wright still reverberating. the chief of brooklyn center police and the officer who fired the fatal shot have both resigned. >> to the wright family, we let you all know from the floyd family, you all have our condolences. tuesday were a first look at derek chauvin's defense. >> i felt that derek chauvin was justified, was acting with reasonable necessary in interacting with mr. floyd. >> announcer: this is "new day." welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around
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the world. i'm john berman. poppy harlow is with us all week. great to have you here. >> great to be here. charges could be fired against the minnesota police officer who shot and killed daunte wright. 26-year veteran officer kim potter has resigned. this could happen very quickly. hundreds of people gathered last night for a third night of protests. >> there was also a very emotional and touching moment. you're watching it right now. this is daunte wright's parents meeting the family of george floyd who left the courtroom to console the wright family. floyd's death was also marked in tuesday's protests with demonstrators kneeling for 9:20 in his honor. the murder trial of former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin will continue this morning. defense attorneys opened their case yesterday with the use-of-force expert who testified that chauvin's restraint techniques were
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justified in his opinion. he also testified that floyd was, in his view, not compliant. we'll talk about all of that ahead with our experts but let's start with adrienne broaddus in minneapolis. good morning, adrienne. >> reporter: poppy, good morning to you. as you mentioned, this case is moving fast. days after daunte wright was shut and killed, we could hear a charging decision for the officer responsible. that's according to the prosecuting attorney in washington county. for those of you at home watching and listening, i want to give you a point of reference this. is hennepin county. washington county is another jurisdiction. about a year ago a new policy was implemented. whenever there's a case involved excessive or deadly force, the prosecuting attorney in that jurisdiction doesn't handle the case to avoid a conflict of interest. nonetheless, the officer who spent 26 years on the force here, kim potter, submitted her
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resignation letter to the city yesterday. but the mayor told me he hasn't accepted her resignation. and folks here in the city took over the streets. you can see the trash littering the road behind me. they took over the streets to express their opinions. they want justice and they want potter criminally charged. the protesters and members of the family can't unsee what they saw. listen in. >> my nephew was 20. did you all not see my great-nephew? did you not see that beautiful baby? he's fatherless. not a mistake. that's murder. that's murder. say his name. >> daunte wright. >> say his name. >> daunte wright.
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>> reporter: and, john, you can hear her pain. she can't unsee what she saw in that video and so many people who gathered here overnight, they can't unsee what they saw, and they see not only with their eye but their heart as they stand up for justice. john? >> all right. adrienne broaddus for us in minnesota. adrienne, thank you so much for your reporting. joining us now, criminal defense attorney bakari sellers and law enforcement analyst charles ramsey. he led police departments in philadelphia and washington, d.c. bakari, we have word from the lawyers in charge perhaps prosecuting this, we could get word on charges as early as today. how is this going to work in terms of how these charges will be presented, and what do you think we're likely to see? >> the first thing that will happen is the family will usually be informed of -- the
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victim is usually informed of what the charge is. the involuntary manslaughter charge -- sorry for this analogy. it's a heat-of-passion charge. that's the best example they give you in criminal law school when you come home and your wife's cheating on you and you shoot everybody in the house. in the heat of passion, that's involuntary manslaughter. as soon as you take a break and think about malice aforethought, that turns into murder. she made a decision in the heat of passion, in the heat of the moment which caused the death of another, which is your involuntary manslaughter. the third-degree charge is where
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you have to show a depraved mind. they may not be able to prove that. >> when involuntary manslaughter comes with up to ten years in prison. it's what the officer in the killing of oscar grant in kamala was convicted of. bakari, is it depraved mind or heat of the moment? we saw the moment. the word saw the moments on that video, taser, taser, terrace. we see the weapon in front of her. she sees the weapon for a matter of seconds before it's fired. what does that leave you thinking as we wait for charges? >> i mean, she sees the weapon, but she's also focused the individual. i don't think the shooting was intentional, but the man is still dead, and so there's negligence there if nothing else, and so i think there is room for some form of charge, but i'm not a lawyer and i don't know specifically what that will
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be. when you listen to the video, you hear her announce taser and you hear her after the shot. again, it shoulden happen. she's a 26-year veteran. you can't afford to have those kinds of mishaps when it comes to use of force. you simply can't. a person has lost his life. you can never get that back. a family is suffering because of your negligence as a police officer, and that certainly is something that cannot be overlooked. >> again, we should note this within a few hours, so we'll be able to talk with much more authority about what the charges and implications there are. if i can, i want to turn focus to the derek chauvin trial yesterday because there really was a stunning moment and that's defense witness barry brodd, a use-of-force expert who testified about two things. i want to play an extended clip here. he's saying two things, which are remarkable in light of the video evidence and in light of the other testimony that we've heard. he's saying that george floyd
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was non-compliant when he was in the prone position on the pavement and he was saying that putting him in that position doesn't constitute a use of force. so listen. >> what part of this is non-compliant? >> i see a picture posted that a person would have both hands in the small of their back resting comfortably versus moving around. >> did you say resting comfortably? >> or lying comfortably. >> resting comfortably on the pavement. >> yes. >> at this point in time when he's attempting to breathe by shoving his shoulder into the pavement. >> describing what the signs of a perfectly compliant person would be. >> so attempting to breathe while restrained is being slightly non-compliant? >> no. >> i want to do two things here. first to chief ramsey, just on the facts he said, that george
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floyd on the ground was non-compliant t idea that it wasn't use of force. based on your decades of experience, is what he's saying close to the truth? >> no. i don't know mr. brodd. i've never met him. but i've met people who have a similar mind-set. i don't know exactly what's on his mind-set, but i have talked to people who go out of their way to justify what a police officer does. this is not justifiable, period. i think probably if the defense had it to do other again, they may have thought about a different expert witness to come in and testify because he didn't appear to be well prepared in terms of being able to present testimony. i thought the prosecution really pretty much ripped it to shreds on cross-examination, but, again, i think those things like resting comfortably on the pavement, the man died. i mean what does that do to your
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credibility as a witness in the eyes of a jury? i mean i just don't get it. i really don't understand the strategy. >> so, bakari, what does the jury see there? they had so many witnesses testify in the opposite from the prosecution and then you have this one guy saying day is night and night is day. what's the impact on the jury? >> i agree with chief ramsey here. this expert witness wasn't very good. he may be an expert as deemed by the credentials needed to testify in court, and i think the criminal defense attorney is going to suffer because of how bad the testimony was. there are people who go out of their way to justify everything law enforcement does. there are lots of people we're seeing right down the street, if he would have complied, things would be difference and they take the light off of the officer's actions.
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this expert witness, i'm not sure, was good for even getting those people on your side, but the caveat, john, like anything else we say, and i know people get tired of me saying it, it only takes one juror. so we shall see. but i don't think this expert witness was effective in even getting that one juror. >> commissioner ramsey, i want to take a step back because, again, this is happening in the middle of the chauvin trial, and it's another black man killed at the hands of police in and around minneapolis in less than a year. i mean george floyd was killed near the end of may, and when you look at the makeup of the brooklyn center police department, it suffers from what the minneapolis police department did, and that's a real lack of diversity or representation of the city. they have four black police officers in a force of 47 in a city that is about 30% african-american. can you speak to this broad issue here of a total lack of representation? >> well, diversity is a problem,
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there's no question about that. but i think it points to a much larger issue, if i may just for a moment. the conviction of derek chauvin should that occur or the officer in the wright case or whatever, is not going to really fix the problem facing us as far as policing in america is concerned right now. the problems are systemic in nature and have to be addressed that way. we do have problems with hiring in our business, use of training. i think the president made a mistake by not taking the lead on this saying our congress should do it. our congress isn't capable of doing much of anything right now. this is going to require presidential leadership in looking to police, but the entire policing system -- the police is a good place to start, but it shouldn't end there. the entire system should be review and serious recommendations and implementations of those recommendations need to occur, but we're going to be having those conversations over and
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over again. >> charles ramsey and bakari sellers, our thanks to both of you this morning. >> thank you. the johnson & johnson vaccine put on hold across the united states. dr. anthony fauci weighed in on vaccine hesitancy moments ago. where is this all going in really days next. out here, you're more than just a landowner. you're a gardener. a landscaper. a hunter. because you didn't settle for ordinary. same goes for your equipment. versatile, powerful, durable kubota equipment. more goes into it. so you get more out of it. not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a little differently. hey, i'll take one, please!
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there is a concern about hesitancy out there. the fact that this was done would in my mind underscore how we take it seriously. anyone who has a doubt they may not be taking safety very seriously, i think this is an affirmation that safety is a primary consideration when it comes to the fda and cdc. that's why it was done, and that's why it's a pause. it isn't a cancellation. it's a pause. >> that was dr. anthony fauci a
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few minutes ago on cnn. blood clots led to the suspension right now of the johnson & johnson vaccine. the cdc advisory panel will hold an emergency meeting today. with us, our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta and the director of the vaccine center at children's hospital and a member of the fda vaccine advisory committee who was involved in the emergency use authorization for the j&j. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> sanjay, let me begin with you. now that we're 24 hours from getting this out, what are your thoughts for americans especially after hearing dr. fauci answer all of john's important questions? >> i think the top line is that this is a very rare event that we're talking about here, you know. i think we're talking about something that's less than one in a million. as far as blood closet, people are saying, blood clots, i've
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heard of those. is that that big of a deal? i think we have an image we can show you. it's a blood clot that occurs in the veins, the sinuses of the brain. blood goes to the brain. blood needs to leave the brain. if bleed clots, it can have a hard time leaving and can cause brain swelling, blurred vision, headache, and seizures. it can be a serious problem. not all blood clots are the same. that's what prompted an investigation. this is the area of the body i deal with. it's tough sometimes to treat these clots because what's happens ising is you develop a blood clot but you don't have enough platelets to counter the blood clot. sometimes people can treat that inappropriately and make the problem worse. so i think when dr. fauci said, hey, we wanted to make sure we sent a message to clinicians out there, you see this, ask, hey,
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have you gotten a vaccine recently and if so, maybe having this type of treatment pattern is important. but i hope this pause doesn't last for very long. >> doctor, you were with us yesterday analyzing this as it was breaking yesterday and you said yesterday looking at the very limited data we were seeing this looked real, a real thing worth looking into it 24 hours later with dr. fauci saying he thinks days, a week or so, weeks in terms of a decision on where to go from here, where do you think this is headed? >> i think today is critical. when they consider what's going on, they're going to vote at the end of the day and make likely one of two conditions. one they're going to say i think we need to be transparent that this is a very, very rare problem associated with j&j and whoever gets this vaccine needs to be fully inforled about it.
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or what they have to do as has been done in some european countries, we need to restrict the use to people of a certain age because this is a phenomenon that occurs primarily in younger women. i don't think they're going to withdraw the vaccine. i think that would be a mistake. the only way out of this is an important component of this, but as dr. gupta said, it is a serious problem and a real problem. we're seeing it in a similar way with the uk astrazeneca vaccine, which a similar platform. i do think it is real, but it is extremely rare. >> sanjay, the headlines have been about women between the ages of 18 and 48 because that's the six who have been impacted so far. people might not remember, but you know what happened in the fall. that is, you had j&j pausing because of a blood clot in a young man. >> that's right. so this is -- you may remember, this was last fall , and the j&
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trial was paused. it was initially described as an unexplained illness. we didn't have a lot of details. but what we learned is it was a blood clot that occurred in the same sorgs, the brain, and it was a 25-year-old male. they said, look, this doesn't seem to be associated, the trial continued. they may be looking at it as as well to say, hey, look, are there other cases out there? there may be other cases out there where people went to their dock torque they had this problem, but they didn't put it together with the vaccine. now, you know, you have an opportunity for people to sort of look through the records and say, we've had these types of things. i think it's rare. there may be others out there as well. are there men? are there some sort of common denominator, you know, between all these people who have sort of developing this problem. just to demonstrate how rare
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this is, one in a million we talked about with regard to developing these sorts of blood clots. it was one person who died out of the six. just the risk of death in that same age group, we went back and looked at that same age group, 18 to 49-year-olds. the risk of death if you get covid-19, 1,810 in a million. i think when you look at this and say it's rare, what does that mean? this is how much more of a problem it is if you get covid because you weren't vaccinated. still i hope the message ends up being very clear here to go ahead and get the vaccine. >> doctor, it's been a no-win situation for the scientists involved here. you're seeing criticism from people saying, oh, they shouldn't have done this, it's so rare, it's going to make more people hesitant. practically at the same time you have people saying, see, we told you so, these vaccines are dangerous. >> dr. fauci's clip earlier that you played was right. in a rational world people would
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look at this and say, look, the fda and cdc really cares about safety, so much so they're completely transparent about extremely rare risks, therefore, i can feel comfortable about the other vaccines that they don't cause that and i can feel comfortable with this vaccine and it's a very, very rare phenomenon. we don't live in that world. we don't live in a rational world. when people hear there's a problem, they don't care whether weather it's one in ten or one in a million. they hear, this could happen to me. in new york state where you have the lottery, sell it with a similar phrase, this could happen to you. that's what worries me. this could make people more concerned about getting vaccines and they may choose not to get them, and vaccines are our only way out of this pandemic, so we need to explain what's going on, as dr. fauci said earlier, and people need to understand it. i'm worried people will have free floating anxiety about this
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and have more hesitate tansey to get vaccines. >> thank you for being with juice let's take a moment to remember some of the more than 563,000 americans lost to coronavirus. reverend david atkinson was a senior pastor at the united methodist churve nch collierville, tennessee. colleagues say he was about 6'5" but knew how to speak to people and build trust. atkinson leaves behind a wife and three grown sons. >> 48-year-old ali thomas was a beloved figure in the north texas fencing community. he grew up in egypt, fenced for the national team and ended up in the united states and became a fencing instructor. he had been training the egyptian team for the tokyo olympics and he leaves behind three daughters and a legacy. the youngest two of his darts
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president biden will announce this afternoon he plans to withdraw all u.s. troops from afghanistan by september 11th, ending america's longest war. it comes as we've learned that the president will address a joint session of congress two weeks from today. thank you so much for being with us this. is a significant moment in history for all of us. i'm probably older than all of you, but we all remember september 11th. all remember how the united states began its involvement in
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afghanistan. and president biden has decided the u.s. troops are leaving no matter what by september 11th, and it's got bipartisan support and bipartisan criticism as well. it's sort of one of these things where you have different things from different people in both parties, seung min. what are the politics of this. >> right. i think that's a good way to sum it up. if you recall, former president trump's decision to set this deadline to withdraw troops from afghanistan which is the may 1st deadline we've been talking about so much is one of the areas where congressional republicans had been willing to vocally criticize president trump, so you're seeing many republicans on capitol hill very much criticize president biden for this decision, setting this deadline, not making it based on decisions on the ground. but you're also hearing some criticism from senior democrats as well. i thought the democrat from new hampshire, her comments saying
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she was very disappointed with this decision and it's sort of the view you're leaving afghanistan and leaving the situation on the ground as a concerning move. so we'll see how the biden administration continues to build support for this action over the next several months. it will be something capitol hill will certainly be closely watching. >> she said this understand mines our commitment to the afghan community, particularly afghan women. it's also a clear indication of where the biden administration is pointing its focus, namely on a rise in china, asia, and i wonder what your take is big picture here and what it tells us about what the next matter of years are going to be like in terms of where their foreign policy focus will be. >> yes.
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a few biden administration officials said on a call they don't see afghanistan as a major threat to the united states as it was and that a permanent foot on the ground is no longer there. this is part of a shifting strategy where the united states foreign policy is sort of readjusting its focus to bigger threats. threats that are more likely to van impact on americans' lives going forward. now t taliban does not appear to be one of those threats in the minds of the biden administration. so focusing on biden, focusing on trying to fix some of the problems left behind by president trump's administration in the view of the biden camp is essentially the new goal, focusing on iran and the middle east and asia. they want to make sure that their focus is not sort of mired in some of these middle eastern conflicts like afghanistan and instead want to focus on areas where they think the american people will be impacted including rise of china. so this is an effort, a
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long-standing effort by biden himself to pull the united states away from this conflict in afghanistan and refocus not only on domestic priorities but the change on the global landscape. a hugely different conversation now regarding congressman matt gaetz. let me read this to you from cnn. first, joel greenberg, an associate of matt gaetz has been providing information since last year including encounters gaetz had with women in exchange for cash for sex. and they attended parties. at times they dressed in formal wear from a political event they just left, pmingled and shared drugs like cocaine and ecstasy. some had sex. one of the women said she
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received money from greenberg after some of the parties. she said that some of the payments were for providing sex but would not say who she slept with. she did say she never received money directly from gates. >> you have kind of one unsavely detail after another come out allegedly about gaetz's activities. lawmakers returned to washington this week as did matt gaetz. i'm sure republicans will continue to get asked about all of this later today and later this week, but what's surprising is that there is no internal -- there is really no internal pressure among house republican leaders, among other house republicans for matt gaetz to take some sort of action such as stepping aside from the judiciary committee. you have leaders from the congressional party on down saying they're going to let the process play out. obviously if representative gates is ultimately indicted,
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that does change things, but right now they're sticking by him and believing him at his word. at at the same time, only one republican has stepped down. so certainly this could all change in the next sect weeks, coming months, but in terms of the political pressure from his own party, matt gaetz is not facing that much. >> thank you both so much for being with us. u.s. capitol police officer billy evans honored in the capitol rotunda where he served for nearly two decades and died so tragically in the line of duty in an attack earlier this mon. his wife and two children share their grief with so many there paying their respects. president biden reflected on his own experience with loss when he addressed the evans family. >> mrs. evans, i have some idea
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of what you're feeling like. i buried two of my children, and people have come up to you and are going to come up to you for some time and say, i know how you feel. after a while, you know everybody means while when you feel like saying you have no idea that you know you're going to make it by holding each other together. most importantly by holding logan and abigail as tightly as you can because as long as you have them, you've got billy. >> you've got billy, the president said. billy is with you. this was just so heartbreaking and touching all at the same time. you're looking at now the president of the united states taking a moment to comfort the daughter of billy evans when she dropped her toy there on the floor. that happened while the house speaker, nancy pelosi, was
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if vaccines work, why are vaccinated people still banned from living normal lives? honestly, what's the answer to that? it doesn't make any sense at all. if the vaccine is effective, there's no reason for people who received the vaccine to wear masks or avoid physical contact, so maybe it doesn't work and they're simply not telling you that. >> a television performer speculating there's some widespread government conspiracy that vaccines don't work and the government is somehow lying about it. nonsense. but this morning serious people are asking about the decision to pause the use of the j&j vaccine when six out of 7 million people who received the vaccine had an adverse reaction. >> reporter: we're in a race between the covid-19 variants and the vaccines, which is why it was surprising to hear the
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j&j vaccine was put on pause while theda and cdc look at blood clots. it turns out six women got a bloot clot and one has died. context is key. this is out of nearly 7 million doses administered at the time. so even if the vaccine is behind the blood clots, the chances of it happening to you is literally less than one in a million. this is not a tough call. by comparison, there's more of a chance you'll be struck by lightning this year, which is one in 700,000. there's also a greater chance of being hit by a satellite falling from nasa or chances of dying from a car crash is about one in 12,000. it's an attempt to put this in perspective because your chances
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of getting covid if you haven't been vaccinated is for greater. get this. you're money than 200 times likely to get covid-19 today than to develop one of these rare clotting events, but why do they pause it? an abundance of caution is the most generous explanation because this unproven side effect is of concern even with astrazeneca. people can show up an get another brand. in other states appointments are being canceled for the time being, but this is not good. public health is hard. don't take it for granted. perfect is never on the menu. for example, the powe owe vaccine saves hundreds of thousands worldwide but it had its share of hiccups. we're learning that with double doses there's still a small chance you can come down with covid, though, it's unlikely to lead to hospitalization or death. that's the whole ball game.
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try the new light scent from gain. hello spring daydream. developing this morning, haiti's government resigning after months of tensions dividing that nation and we're seeing protests spilling into the streets. haiti's president says he's accepted and appointed a new prime minister. at the heart of the unrest is a dispute over the president's term limit, as well as his failure to organize new elections leaving legislative positions empty and the population effectively unrepresented. >> now to a really significant announcement coming officially this afternoon from the white house. president biden will announce plans to withdraw all u.s. troops from afghanistan by september 11th, ending america's longest running war. let's bring in our national security analyst, david sanger. he's a white house and national security correspondent for "the new york times." david, your piece, i was
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remarking this morning, following your fantastic pieces on iran, it was excellent. what struck me the most on the biden decision is that you say it comes with clear risks. obviously. that's obvious. my question is, what is the greatest risk and who fills the void that the u.s. clearly leaves pulling out in such an unstable situation still in afghanistan? >> well, that's exactly the right question. because one of the things that you have heard so often from this administration is that when the united states retreats around the world, somebody fills the void, and it's usually a bad actor. and that's the -- basically their critique of the trump administration's america first pull-back approach to the world. in afghanistan, i think the president was driven by the fact that he's always been a critic of the notion that the united states could make a significant change here, and this is a truly
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humbling moment for the united states because while we achieved our immediate objective, which was driving al qaeda out of afghanistan, almost every other objective we have had over the past 20 years, turning the place into a model democracy, establishing institutions, rule of law, making the economy self-sustaining, we have failed at almost all of those. and the president this afternoon is saying essentially that we are giving up the effort. that no more -- if you couldn't do it in 20 years, you're not going to get it done. but there are risks. and the biggest risk is the taliban takes more and more of the country and while joe biden is president, you have a situation like in saigon where you saw americans being evacuated. >> often times kids ask the best question and your partner jim sciutto's son asked him last night, daddy, did we win in
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afghanistan? and you just addressed that point right there. if you are looking at most of the goals over 20 years, you know, it was a failure. it's complicated, but it was a failure. what's the difference between the conditions-based withdrawal you hear some national security stalwarts in congress, condition-based, and what the biden administration is saying, no conditions, we're just leaving. >> that will be the next question that jim sciutto's kid asks, i'm sure, and tells you it runs in the family. it's a really big difference because conditions-based has always been the line used during the bush administration, the obama administration. which is to say if we see that there is stability and that the government of afghanistan is able to sustain itself and defend itself, then we will pull back. that was the essence of the obama policy. we'll do a big surge, train the
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afghan government and then pull back. what biden is saying is quite different and the difference is that now he's saying, we're leaving on september 11th, the 20th anniversary, no matter what happens. if they can tdefend themselves, great. if they can't, we're still leaving. this drives many in the pentagon a little crazy because their view is if you're leaving no matter what, what you're saying is, many people died for a cause that in the end we're ending. >> think of all their families this morning. >> that's right. >> let's turn to iran. again, your reporting on this is critical. here's the big newest headline. iran lashing back saying we're going to enrich our uranium from 20% to 60%. and what does that mean? you need 90% enrichment to get a bomb and it takes about a week to get from 60% to 90%. if that's all true and there's a lot of ifs there, jen psaki says
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that's provocative and brings in their seriousness of continuing negotiations on a nuclear deal. what does that do to any u.s./iran nuclear negotiations? >> well, these negotiations have been under a lot of pressure in a lot of places. the israelis over the weekend appear to have been behind the staging of an explosion at natanz that was partly designed to set back the program. but many people believe was also designed to derail these negotiations because they don't think the iranians could ever be trusted in a deal. so the iranians had to respond. and the 60% basically is saying, we're going to walk right up to the edge of building a nuclear weapon or having the fuel to build a nuclear weapon. now the other thing that came out yesterday poppy was the worldwide threat assessment from the american intelligence community and what they said was that while iran has moved in fuel, they're still far behind in the design of a nuclear
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weapon. and that suggests that biden's got some time. that he doesn't need to be rushed by these threats. that while it's dangerous, while it's provocative, it doesn't mean they're going to turn this into a weapon in six months or a year. >> to an extent, is israel not driving this and getting what it -- israel did this to make it more difficult for the united states and iran to reach some kind of a nuclear deal. the immediate reaction has been iran saying it's going to enrich its uranium further. isn't that what israel wanted, weirdly? >> well, yeah, weirdly, in a way, i mean, the israeli view and american view could not be more at odds. joe biden believes in his heart that the only solution to this problem is a diplomatic one. benjamin netanyahu believes in his heart that a diplomatic solution cannot be trusted and will not last. and that the only real answer is mowing the lawn, which is to say, every few months, go in and do something that sets back
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their program. last summer, you'll remember, they blew up a big research lab for the centrifuges that make fuel. in november, they killed iran's leading nuclear scientist. now we've had this explosion inside natanz and, you know, it used to be ten years ago the u.s. and israel did these operations together. that was the cyberattack on the same plant in natanz. now we're really in different places. >> david sanger, as always, we thank you for your insight on so many different issues here. these are big moments. big challenges facing the united states. and we're really entering to an extent a new period in foreign policy. we'll need your expertise here. thank you. >> thanks so much. >> thank you, david. "new day" continues right now. police officer who shot daunte wright stepping down. >> i'm hoping this will help bring some calm to the community. full afccountability under the
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law. >> -- from where the chauvin trial was taking place. a police officer would shoot and kill another unarmed black man. >> president biden will announce the withdrawal of military forces from afghanistan this september. >> we have been there for far too long. that's been his view for some time. >> if we leave too early, we risk losing the gains we made the last few years. >> this is "new day." >> this is "new day." i'm john berman. poppy harlow here with me. criminal charges could be filed in a matter of hours against former police officer kimberly potter for shooting and killing daunte wright during a traffic stop in brooklyn center, minnesota. the killing police are calling a deadly mistake. potter and the department's police chief both resigned yesterday. wright's death has now been ruled a homicide. there were protests overnight with some demonstrators clashing
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with police as they enforced a curfew. at one point, demonstrators stopped and knelt for 9 minutes and 29 seconds to honor george floyd. >> emotions very raw, understandably, in and across minneapolis from these deadly police shootings that keep on happening. especially their members of the wright and floyd families came together to meet each other for the first time to console each other through all of this. this as the defense in the derek chauvin murder trial will call more witnesses today. yesterday their first witness took the stand and that witness claimed that chauvin's actions were justified while suggesting that floyd was resisting because he wasn't, quote, resting comfortably on the pavement. so many questions about that testimony that we'll get to today. let's begin this hour with adrian broaddus. she joins us live in minneapolis with the top store in brooklyn center. good morning, adrienne. >> good morning. last night we saw another night of unrest. the third night of


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