tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN August 2, 2021 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
thank you for watching. it's time for the big show "don lemon" tonight starring d. lemon. >> this very dariant more conce for me and i think everyone. we have more people getting vaccinated thanks is good news but man, oh, man, oh, man. >> we're playing catchup and i don't like the cases getting younger. >> yeah. >> that's frightening. because you don't have a lot people vaccinated and that seems to be the achilles heel here.
it seems to be worse than before. that is frightening. >> i'll take you to my hometown, as you know, baton rouge, louisiana and you spoke to the governor earlier. >> cases are up over 120%. >> man, oh, man, oh, man. you should have heard the conversations in my house when my family visited in july what is going on there and even know over the phone and -- >> number one in vaccinations in the last week. >> yeah. >> number one. >> yeah, well, let's hope it stays that way. let's hope it keeps going in that direction. again, this is not political. this is about saving lives. keeping people healthy. i'm going to get to it. see you later, my friend. >> i love you, d lemon. >> love ya. this is "don lemon tonight" and look, a lot of news about covid. it is really unnerving. this is not hyperbole. i'm not trying to scare you. i'm being real. a lot of you are worried about that delta variant, as you
should be. worried about having to wear masks again. worried cases are on the rise. the average daily count up 44% since last week. that's a lot. it's now about 72,000 cases, that's a lot, higher than the peak last summer, everyone. and i hear you. i hear you. but we've got good news today. 70% of american adults have now gotten at least one dose of the vaccine meeting the president's goal. well, we met that goal about a month late, by the way. but the white house is mounting a full-court press trying to get the vaccination message out. even with cases on the rise more than 99.99%, are you hearing me? more than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against covid have not been hospitalized or died from a breakthrough case. there -- that's all you need to know right there. the vaccines are very good at preventing serious illness and death. and vaccinations are up, but
here is the question, will that be enough to turn the tide? >> while we desperately want to be done with this pandemic, covid-19 is clearly not done with us and so, our battle must last a little longer. >> so you want to watch, you want to stay tuned because in -- i have someone coming from my home state you want to hear from. in my home state of louisiana, they're expecting to hit an all-time record number of hospitalizations tomorrow. the governor jon edwards temporarily bringing back their statewide mask mandate for everyone vaccinated or unvaccinated and just spoke with chris a little while ago and said the situation is urgent. >> the urgency is that we have the highest case growth rate in the country and the second place state is quite a ways behind us. that's not a distinction we're proud of and the percent positivity is about 13% of all tests coming back positive and
that seems to be increasing, which means we have not reached the peak and we don't know how much further this is going to go. >> and more specifically in my hometown, a place i grew up, baton rouge, the state's largest hospital has no more beds left. no beds. can you imagine being sick enough to go to the hospital and being told there is just no room for you? and that's happening right in my hometown. all of this is happening as senator lindsey graham announcing today he has tested positive for covid despite being fully vaccinated, put up this full screen for you. the senator says he has mild symptoms but he is very glad that he was vaccinated because without the vaccine, he is sure that he would be much sicker. okay? so graham was part of a small group of senators of joe mansion's houseboat over the week weekend. senator mansion who is fully vaccinated said he tested negative. hear that? he is happy. i'm talking about lindsey graham
he was vaccinated because otherwise it would have been a lot worse. you got to wonder, though, whether maybe some unvaccinated republicans will listen to lindsey graham. but a new national poll tonight shows 31% of republicans will likely never get the vaccine. so no surprise a senior biden administration official tells cnn there are governors in this country who are putting politics ahead of public health. that official didn't name names. but florida's republican governor ron desantis would probably be at the head of that list. his state accounts for a stunning 20% of all new covid cases in this country. hospitalizations are breaking records. there were long lines today at a testing site and governor desantis, he's representing the party of no. >> i think it very important that we say unequivocally, no to
lockdowns. no to school closures. no to restrictions, and no mandates. >> he should be saying no to the kra coronavirus, the delta variant but you know. last week governor desantis signed an executive order to ensure there will be no mask mandates in schools. putting some warped idea of freedom ahead of the health and safety of kids too young to be vaccinated. that as the former president barack obama is raising some eyebrows celebrating his 6 0th birthday this week with a party for hundreds of people but we're told the party will be a covid compliant event in martha's vineyard. a source says a party will be outside and follow all cdc public health protocols, there will be testing for guests and a covid safety coordinator on site. but is it the right thing to do right now? with covid surging?
that as the senate is gearing up for the fight over the amendments to the trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. majority leader chuck schumer says the longer it takes to finish the bill, the longer we'll be here and the middle of all this with infrastructure on the line with covid raging again in hot spots across the country, what does a top republican in the house doing? making what he apparently thinks is a funny, funny joke about hitting the speaker with a gavel. >> look, i know he's joking if
you want to call it that, first rule of comedy is you have to be funny considering the times that we're in, as well. joking about hitting the speak we are a gavel. less than six months after rioters stormed the capitol hunting for nancy pelosi. >> can i speak to pelosi. we're coming. we're coming for you, too. >> disturbing language? you bet. why does kevin mccarthy think it okay for him to do that? we heard way too much violent talk from his boss the twice i'm peached one-term former president let's not forget told the rioters we love you, you're special. you know what? why don't you try telling your funny, funny joke about hitting
the speaker with a gavel, try telling it to the brave mipolic officers that risked their lives to keep them safe on january 6th and see if they think it's funny. those officers, american heroes lost another of their own. d.c. police officer gun gunther hashida who defended the capitol died but suicide on thursday. look, we don't know why but his death is the third known suicide of an officer that responded to the capitol during the attack. officer michael fanone, another american hero, i man i got to know well worked with office hashida for a number of years and said he was loved by everyone. mike also said and i quote here, grappling with mental health issues should not be deemed a weakness. if anything, it is a strength. and he is right about that. and he's not the only one speaking out about mental health in the wake of what happened on january 6th.
listen to officer harry dunn. >> i wanted to take this moment to speak to my fellow officers about the emotions they're continuing to experience from the events of january 6th. there is absolutely nothing wrong with seeking professional counseling. what we went through that day is traumatic and if you're hurting, please take advantage of the counseling service that are available to us. >> again, he is so right. all of this can be hard to talk about. but there is no shame in asking for help, for yourself or for someone you know who is struggling. you can call the national suicide prevention lifeline or text the crisis text line at the numbers up on your screen. let's hold it there for a bit. look at your screen at those numbers and that's how you can get in touch. if you're having issues or you know someone who is having issues, no shame. no shame. no stigma. call those numbers or text them.
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the delta variant reeking havoc among unvaccinated americans. louisiana seeing more new cases of the coronavirus today that at any other point than at any other point in the pandemic. louisiana's governor john bell edwards announcing he's temporarily reinstating the mask mandate for vaccinated and unvaccinated. many state hospitals are getting overwhelmed. >> it has become an extreme hi clear that our current recommendations on their own are not strong enough to deal with louisiana's fourth surge of covid. in fact, nobody should be laboring under the misapprehension this is just
another surge. we've already had three of these. this is the worst one we've had thus far. >> i'm joined now by the emergency room medical director at our lady of the lake medical center in baton rouge, which is my hometown. doctor, thank you very much. this is important. appreciate your joining us. you're on the front lines of this new wave of cases in louisiana. how bad is it? >> well, thanks for having me, don. it's pretty bad. this is, as i've been telling people, this is the fourth round we've been going through this and the worst round so far where the health care team is tiring out trying to battle this and it seems that all the things we were experiencing back in march of 2020, april of 2020, we're not doing the same things current state. mask wearing, social distancing, kind of respecting each other's person space. you know, then at that time we didn't have a vaccine but now we do and there is a lot of discussion should i get a
vaccine or should i not? it's still a very personal decision for people, but this round is proving that it's a community decision whether you're going to get the vaccine or not. when i hear people's hesitation, it's reasons that are selfish. it's for themselves. and i'm not saying you're selfish if you don't get the vaccine, i'm saying think differently. think bigger. this is a community, a nationwide, a worldwide pandemic, and if you look up the world, the definition of pandemic, it's pretty scary and there is a way to fix this. the short term is mask up. the long term is vaccination. >> yeah. listen, doing research for this and also discovering this for the entire time that we've had -- we've been dealing with covid-19, you know, even today i was reading and looking some of the research involved going online and people said, there were people saying it's not real and the hospitals aren't full. hospitals aren't experiencing any difficulties. there aren't many patients going
in. there is still that information out there. doctor, what can you tell people about this, please? >> well, as my mom told me a couple days ago, you look tired. i am tired. i'm tired because we have a team that's constantly on the front lines of this and we're working really hard and it doesn't seem to be an end in sight. the hospital is full. the hospitals all around the state are full. you know, i'm reaching out to medical directors at some of our partnering hospitals and they have patients in the emergency department waiting for an admission for 37 hours. icu holds we can brailout and bring to the mother ship of our lady of the lake. we're not able to do that now. our hospitals and departments are stressed. we're short staffed. there is a national nursing shortage. we're doing this with less team players, you know, think about that on a soccer field with three or four less team players than you're supposed to have. it's a hard game and we're playing it now and not quitting
but it's hard. >> moments ago, the governor, governor edwards told chris who is on chris' show, he said there is a 13% test positivity rate. that's high. and he said 90% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated people but 10% are among the vaccinated. he thinks that co-morbidities ae a factor here but that's got to worry you, no? >> sure, absolutely. you know, the breakthrough rate for most vaccinations when you have the flu every year, it's not uncommon for people to come into the hospital after they've been vaccinated. a lot of it has to do with age and comorbidities but that number of admissions, 80 to 90% of unvaccinated patients is really astounding. there is not much in medicine that's 80 or 90%. this fourth wave told us what we need to know about the pandemic. the first couple waves, maybe we could get away with not paying attention to this. this is a serious statistic.
anything above 80% is very telling. >> in laymen's terms, what has it told you? it told us what we need to know about this pandemic. what is that? >> previously, you could be young and healthy and i could understand you saying i don't want to get a vaccination because young and healthy people don't get sick and hospitalized. >> children, as well. i said that before but not anymore. >> exactly. but now we do have 50% of our patients that are admitted are under 50. that's telling us this is evolving and changing. it's making it harder and nobody is really -- nobody is really safe from it but even if you could get through, what about the rest of our community? what about the rest of our friends and families? those that are scared. those that have been vaccinated, those that are wearing masks. those that do say six feet away from each other, what does it say what we don't do those things? that's the most important message is we need to be kind to
each other. we need to be -- we need to have an element of human here. let respect everyone's decision to get through this thing f. you're not going to get vaccinated. stay home and stay six feet away from people. wear a mask. wash your hands. the vaccination is a very personal decision but again, it's now become a community decision if you decide not to get it. >> on the subject of children, nearly a dozen children are being treated for coronavirus at the hospital over the weekend. several of them in the icu. do we need to be worried more about that, about what delta can do to kids, doctor? >> yeah, i mean, any illness can get someone sick. covid is definitely the same. whether it's rsv, which is really running through all of our children's hospitals, or flu or covid, children can get sick. they don't have all the mechanisms that we have as adults to fight things and they are very brittle.
the fact we're having more hospita hospitalizations is concerning. the number of covid infections in school aged children is rising. at least in louisiana, we're starting school this week. that's a concern. what is the next couple weeks hold for us back in march and april of last year, kids were out of school. we were all in lockdown so we didn't have the same thing to worry about but we're at a -- the positivity rate is on a very steep upward curve and now we're going back to schools. it's concerning for a lot of people. >> doctor, i know you're tired and as your mom said, i don't think you look tired but she knows you better than i do. keep up the good work and stay strong and stay safe. thank you for what you're doing. appreciate it. >> very much appreciate it. >> thanks. breaking right now, we're hearing of a fourth officer who responded today january 6th insurrection dying by suicide. we'll tell you about it more next. new wireless plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene
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we're back with our breaking news. we said there was a third officer earlier and now we're learning a fourth officer who responded to the insurrection has died by suicide. metropolitan police officer kyle defratag was found deceased. the cause of death suicide after we learned earlier today of the death of d.c. metropolitan police officer gunther hashida.
joining me is charles ramsey and the philadelphia police commissioner and cnn law enforcement analyst. my goodness, chief ramsey. let's say good evening to you but it not a good evening. thank you for joining. we're learning about the fourth officer that died but suicide. what goes through your mind when you hear this? s >> first of all, i want to offer my condolences to the officers killing themselves as well as the men and women of the department because it's tough when you lose an officer. clearly, there is a mental health issue here that we got to address. it's not just the january 6th insurrection that the officers responded to, of usuy obviously traumatic inls -- incident but day tod day trama. this adds up over time.
>> are you worried about this number keeping up, rising? >> i am and i have been for a long time. i mean, there is a very high rate of suicide among police officers. and a lot of it is due to untreated trama. psychological trama that officers are exposed to on a regular basis. you know, in policing, it becomes almost routine to go to homicide scenes where sexual assaults have taken place, child abuse or what have you. that's not normal. it is not normal to be exposed to this on an on going basis and have to do a better job of taking care of the mental health of our police officers. do a good job if you get shot, stabbed, hit by a car but the psychological wounds we need to pay more attention to and have regular mental health checkups for these officers. understand and observe, reck ni -- recognize early signs perhaps a person is in mental distress. don't wait until it's too late because then you wind up with
the out come we're talking about tonight. >> officer michael fanone that testified before the committee on january, the select committee last week he worked with officer hashida for years and released a statement about him saying in part he was loved by everyone. there is no one in the law enforcement profession lovered -- loved by everyone, most are loved my some. more needs to be done to normalize the conversation about mental health not just in our profession. grappling with mental health should not be deemed as a weakness, if anything it's a strength. why is there such stigma about mental health? there is stigma around mental health throughout society but why in policing considering the amount of stress and as you said, as you so eloquently laid out for us, what police officers face in situations they face every single day? you know, it's part of the culture of policing. i've been around a long time. pack in my day when i was
working the street as an officer, i mean, you know, if something happened, you know, suck it up and keep moving. it didn't matter what it was. so, you know, a lot of that is still present unfortunately then you have officers that are just afraid of losing their jobs. if they admit they're having some psychological issues after all, you know, they carry a badge, a gun and so forth and they don't want to get caught up in whether or not they're doing to be able to hit the street. if they're going to be fit for duty. so i mean, there is a lot of things that have to be taken in consideration but the bottom line is if they need help they should seek it. i think the leadership police departments have to be more proactive in forcing the issue. not waiting for an individual to stand up and say hey, i got a problem. have regular mental health check j ups for everyone including the police chief because believe me, police chiefs are under an awful lot of stress and it's hard on everyone especially if
untreated. >> this is probably the insult to injury category here. that's why i'll play this. this is officer fanone during his testimony trying to down play what happened on january 6th. here it is. >> i feel like i went too hell and back to protect them and the people in this room, but too many are now telling me that he le ll doesn't exist or he lerks lerks -- hell wasn't that bad. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful! >> it is disgraceful. we have people saying that it was tourists, that these officers weren't brave. they should be able to handle this, that this was just a normal day at the capitol, that they were crisis actors. really, just saying hey, what they went through just denying their reality. what kind of an impact do lies like this about january 6th have on these officers that risk their lives that day?
>> tremendous impact. it's irresponsible on the part of elected leaders that take that position. they know full well that wasn't a normal l daday and tourists d through the capitol. they know that and yet they lie and try to spin the truth. they act like it's a game and it's not a game. you've got lives at stake here. you got men and women that will tomorrow fight for those very same people that are saying those kinds of things and they know they will be there to protect them no matter what. and so, you know, ifor them to turn around and pretend it didn't happen is disrespectful and fanone is absolutely right. i mean, it takes its toll. it really does. and i don't think people really realize just how difficult a position not only those officers are in but just think about policing in general. it's been a rough couple years in terms of policing and the way police are viewed and understandably so in many instances, but everyone is being
painted with that broad brush and now on top of that, you've got january 6th and all the rhetoric and things that are going on around that. it's just tough being a police officer right now. >> chief ramsey, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> here is breaking news, a fourth police officer responded to the capitol on january 6th has died of suicide. metropolitan police officer kyle defratag was found decease on july 10th according to the public information officer. the cause of death was suicide. the department says he had been with the department, fratag had since november of 2016. our thoughts and prayers are with his family. all of this can be hard to talk about but there is no shame in asking for help for yourself or someone you know struggling. call the national suicide prevention lifeline or text, the crisis text line at the numbers up on your screen. we'll leave them there as we go to break. [relaxed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪
okay. we're pack now and as we have been reporting, we have some breaking news. another police officer who keep defended the capitol on january 6th dying by suicide. we're learning that metropolitan police officer kyle defratag died on july 10th and we learned gunther hashida also died but suicide. joining me is congressman james clyburn. sorry i had to give this news to you or we have to talk about this news. two more officers lost. our hearts go out to their families. terrible reminder how violent january 6th was. the emotion and trama still out there. does it make the house cop mitty d -- cop committee on
insurrection more urgent? >> yes. people need to come to grips with something happened on january 6th>> yes. people need to come to grips with something happened on january 6th that never happened before. never have we seen this violent insurrection brought on by fell low americans and we all know what happened. we all know where it happened. we all know that something and somebody is behind all of this. and to see four lives lost that to me is just unacceptable. and for my republican colleagues to continue to obstruct, refusing to take part in trying to get to the bottom of this is beyond me. i don't quite understand that. it makes me have a great
appreciation of what thomas payne was writing about back when this country was trying to give birth to itself when he talked about some are soldiers and sometimes patriots. people that will stand for the country so long as the weather is right. people that are patriotic in the sunshine but when the storms come, when the challenges come, they're nowhere to be found and that's what is happening to our republican colleagues. they are sunshine soldiers and they are just absolutely a threat to the future of this great country. >> and speaking of people who are standing up for what they believe in, a number of our civil rights leaders are out there. reverend jesse jackson is out there, as well arrested today protesting asquingainst the filibuster and black civil rights leaders are on the front line saying now is the time to get the voting rights passed.
how is this going to get done? >> well, it is really hr 1 that is sitting over in the senate for the people act. the john lewis act has not been introduced in the house yet simply because the john lewis act is simply to try to correct what the supreme court said was wrong with the 1965 voting rights act. now here is where the rough comes pause in order to reauthorize the john lewis act or hr 4 as recalled, you have to have a record developed for why you are targeting these specific states. now, before it was only around six states. what we did the last time out was expand it to around nine to 11 states. but you know, if you make the preclearance section of the john lewis act apply to all 50
states, there will be no need to have this record develop and so i have opinion asking the c congress, the senate can take s 1. they enterintroduced it before. take s 1 and put the preclearance in it for all 50 states and take what is in hr 1 for the people act and pass it. that's all we want out of hr 4 is what we call preclearance and the senate can do that if they apply it to all 50 states. they don't need the record being developed on the house side that we cannot get done before september. >> well, let's hope they're listening. i want to ask you now about this really contentious primary doing on in ohio for marsha fudge's house seat. you're supporting chauntel
brown. lo lots of attack ads. name calling. what do you think this outcome will mean for the direction of the party? >> it all depends what the results will be. you know, i'm a great believer that we must do everything we can to elevate the political discourse in this country. we just had a president who lowered that discourse to a level up nimaginable. we cannot have legislating by sound bytes and i'm a big believer that we should be working on trying to make headway for the american people. but there seems to be people who are more interested in what the headline is. more interested in got ya politics and so i've been supporting chauntel because she asked me to support her. chauntel is the kind of person i think will help elevate the political discourse in this
country. she is a big supporter of joe biden and i worked with her for about ten years on marsha fudge's various events and i think she would make an outstanding congress person and i do believe that as my dad used to tell me all the time, the first line of a good education is good manners and i'm doing everything i possibly can to help people get e llected to office to bring that kind of attitude to the political discourse. >> you're right about that. my parawents used to say that, well. i forget about that saying. a certain group in this country now could sure use some good manners. congressman clyburn, appreciate you joining. >> thank you for having me. they attacked him as a traitor. his career was destroyed but key impeachment witness alexander vidman isn't done talking yet. you know what? he's here next.
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as the house select committee investigates the deadly pro-trump riot at the capitol, and the former president's role in it, we're getting a new look at what led to his first impeachment. retired lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, who testified to congress about the phone call between trump and the ukraine president, is now telling his story on his own terms. detailing how the then-president pressured ukraine to investigate joe biden, and why he felt it was his duty to come forward.
>> dad, i'm sitting here today in the u.s. capitol, talking to our elected professionals, it's proof that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the soviet union and come to the united states of america in search of a better life for our family. do not worry. i will be fine for telling the truth. this is america. this is the country i've served and defended, that all my brothers have served and here, right matters. >> well, those last words, here, right matters. that's the title of his new book. and he joins me right now. colonel vindman, thank you for taking the time to join us. >> thank you, don. >> it's hard to believe, but that was nearly two years ago. since then, the former president tried to overturn the election. there was an insurrection at the capitol by a pro-trump mob, he was impeached for a second time. could you or anyone have
foreseen all of this chaos and tragedy that unfolded? >> absolutely not. i think in my worst nightmares, i couldn't have foreseen the catastrophe that resulted in 600,000 americans dead. we usually attribute that directly to president trump, but it's his enablers, the congressional leadership that failed to hold him accountable, that emboldened him going into a pandemic resulting in 600,000 dead. imagine a world where he was removed or even censured. would 600,000 have died? i think not. >> his first impeachment hinged on what you heard during that infamous phone call. take us back. what were you thinking when you heard trump asking ukraine's president to do us a favor? >> well, to me, it was the
culmination of an enterprise. in the preceding months, i watched as this irregular channel unfolded, with giuliani looking to do an investigation into president biden, and it didn't come into fruition. it was a nuisance until the ambassador was removed from offense, until vice president pence pulled the plug on his participation in the inauguration. and then the president himself stepped in and demanded an investigation into the bidens in exchange for a white house visit and aid. it was a slow-moving train wreck that i watched unfold, culminating on july 25th. >> and at the beginning, there was a little bit before that, or some before that, but at the beginning of this strange behavior and interviews from rudy giuliani, then after that it got more bizarre, even after
the first impeachment. immediately after that call, you went to your twin brother, a top ethics official at the national security council. you knew it was on you to say something. what did you tell him? >> yeah. so i walk into his office like i do so many times on any given day. i'm usually behind my computer, but if i wasn't there, i would be in his office. after that meeting, i marched in, he knew this was going to be a potentially difficult phone call. i closed the door, and in as solemn of a face i could muster, i said, if whatever i tell you becomes public, the president will be impeached. it was clear as day to me. >> you had a handful of people who stood up back then. today, cheney, kinzinger, they're standing up for truth and putting everything on the
line for what is right. do you have a message for them? >> i do. it's one of the key messages i try to communicate in the book. you know what the right thing to do is. you've done it repeatedly, trained yourself how to do the right thing. all you need to do is trust in yourself in follow through. frankly, my book is what i would like to believe is a tool to help folks overcome some of these challenges, train themselves to be better, and maybe each one of us could be a little bit better about dealing with challenges. >> listen, i wish you the best in life, and the best with your book. colonel alexander vindman, "here, right matters: an american story." thank you so much, colonel vindman. >> thank you. covid cases are up. but so are vaccinationvaccinati. the u.s. hitting a milestone today. more after this. d-new way for you to sell your car.
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