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she going to compete in 2024? >> reporter: jim, she is not ruling it out. the 2024 olympics. remember, they're just three years away from these games. we had her to talk about, she felt scared for the first time in her life, battled her way back and made a big splash here. hopefully we'll see her back on the stage in a short time. thank you for joining me. i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour with kate bolduan" starts right now. hello, i'm kate bolduan. here is what we're watching. game-changer, the fda could grant full approval for the pfizer vaccine by the end of this month. is it enough to slow the delta variant wave hitting the nation right now? on an island, a blockbuster damning report of sexual harassment. new york's governor facing more calls to resign. i'll speak to an assembly member
ready to impeach him right now. a full heart, simone biles heads home with two medals and a stunning revelation about what all she was dealing with at the olympic games. thanks for being here, everybody. we begin this hour with a new hope covid vaccinations will soon get a big boost. dr. anthony fauci telling cnn he hopes the fda will approve pfizer's vaccine for full approval within the next couple weeks. that comment coming after "the new york times" reported fda full approval is expected by the start of next month. the hope is that final green light will encourage millions of americans still resisting getting a shot to do just that. the pace of vaccinations is picking up. nearly a half million americans getting their first shot each day. that is the highest it's been since the fourth of july. this comes at a critical moment. we learned today that the delta variant now accounts for 93% of
all cases of covid in the united states. so essentially, delta is covid and covid is delta at this point. the u.s. is now averaging more than 90,000 new cases per day, the highest in nearly six months. one scary new piece of data. the american academy of pediatrics says there's been a substantial increase in cases among children and teenagers. nearly 72,000 kids were infected with covid last week. that is an 84% increase over the week before. a lot to get to. let's start with dr. michael sack from the university of alabama at birmingham, director of infectious disease there. dr. fauci saying he hopes the pfizer vaccine gets that full fda approval, the gold standard of approval in the next couple weeks. what do you think full approval will do when it comes to people who are still resisting a shot? do you think that's what's holding people back? >> i think it's holding some
people back, kate. it's really something people say -- experimental. when it gets full approve, i think that will encourage folks, too. the uptick is probably due to people looking around and seeing friends and family members going to the hospital, some of them going to icu. i can't think of a single person who doesn't at least know one person or family member or friend who hasn't contracted covid in the last couple weeks. that's how explosive the delta variant is right now in the united states. >> nearly 72,000 kids got covid last week. i said it earlier, an increase of 84% from the week before. that's five times more than the cases at the end of june. how concerned are you about the impact of this variant in kids compared to earlier in the pandemic? >> i think everybody needs to understand that delta is different.
this is not january's covid virus. this is something brand new. we have to take what we thought we knew about covid and put it aside and look at this delta variant head on. what it's doing, number one, much more transmissible. number two, it's causing illness quicker. people are getting sicker if they're not vaccinated. three, as you just reported, kids, we did not see this with the original covid strains. we are now seeing it. it is quite alarming. our icus at the children's hospital are starting to get kids with covid pneumonia, our ers are filling up. covid pneumonia is not something we saw very much of in children. we're seeing it now. >> as you talk about icus and hospital beds filling up, the stress and toll on health care workers as another wave washes through is a big problem. i want to play for you how one nurse out of tennessee, how she describes it.
>> it's worse because it got better for a brief shining moment, there was a light at the end of the tunnel. it was getting better. the nurses like me who became nurses during all of this were starting to see what it was like to be a nurse in normal times, and then the numbers started picking back up and the units opened back up and the rest raters came back out. it's like thinking you walked out of a war and being told you have to go back in. >> how do you describe it, doctor? >> a brief shining moment like camelot that's now gone. that's exactly right. i wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" that likened, exactly as this nurse said, that the health care workers are feeling they're going back for their third tour of duty into a war zone. this time the case numbers are going to probably be worse. in alabama, we're predicting by labor day the peak number of cases will be two to three times
higher than our worst time in january. so everybody has got to brace themselves and get ready. i lay this at the feet of unvaccinated folks really generating this. i'm not casting blame. i'm just saying it's causal. july 4th weekend everyone went out because the camelot feeling was there, felt like we could get back to normal. unvaccinated folks represented 65% of the population in the southeast, and the delta variant was lurking, jumped in, sparked a flame. now that flame is a wildfire. >> i want to play something. this is a sound bite that came in from the acting mayor of boston. i want to make sure i have the context of this right. the acting mayor of boston, massachusetts, kim janey on tuesday likened requiring proof of a covid vaccination to slave papers and birtherism. let me play a sound bite from this mayor. >> during slavery, post slavery, as recent as what the immigrant
population has to go through here. we heard trump with the birth certificate nonsense. here, we want to make sure we're not do anything that would further create a barrier for residents. >> an additional layer of this is, although she has put out a statement that she is encouraging people to get vaccinations. i'm wondering what you think that message, coming from a mayor of a major american city. >> gosh, i really am having trouble following that completely. here is where i would break it down. politics infused into this epidemic is harmful. it's held us back every step of the way. it's given a platform more misinformation. and that's what's caused the most amount of damage, in my opinion, is this infusion of politics into public health. we've got to stop that. what we need to do is keep a simple message. delta is here. it's bad. it's going to be worse in the next three weeks. what we can do to protect
ourselves is get vaccinated. for the time being, mask up again. this virus is much more infectious -- it's being transmitted from a vaccinated person to another vaccinated person. that was not the case prior to delta. it is the case now. when we go indoors, we should wear our masks even if we're vaccinated and try to f a void large crowds if we can. >> your clarity on this issue has been something i've definitely appreciated. thank you so much, doctor. >> thank you. let's turn now to president biden who is changing his approach to tackling the pandemic of the unvaccinated at this moment. he is now taking a much harder edge against republican governors in some of the hardest hit states like florida and texas for continuing to stand in the way of covid preventive measures. banning mask requirements, banning vaccine requirements, this just as biden is also again pleading with americans to get the shot in order to stop the
delta variant. will this strategy work this time? joining me is andy slavitt, former senior adviser to biden's white house covid response team. andy, thank you for being here. i think biden's shift yesterday was important. i want to play for everyone just to remind them of what he said to governors. >> i say to these governors, please help. if you aren't going to help, at least get out of the way of the people trying to do the right thing. >> do you believe that governor desantis and governor abbott are personally making decisions that are harming their own citizens? >> i believe the results of their decisions are not good for their constituents. >> it's now less help me help you and more kind of taking them to the mat. do you think this is the right approach, andy? >> some of us are glad the
president is taking this tact. he's doing it for the simple reason, he wants to leave no american behind. if you live in florida, he cares about you as much as those in delaware. ron desantis can choose to get vaccinated or not get vaccinated. if he really believes in local school control, what's the principle he's jumping on to say they can't require vaccinations, can't require vaccines, can't require proof of vaccinations? i think he did this, ron desantis, at a time when it seemed like the cost would be low because he thought covid was over. he's now learned the hard way, and if he had any sense, he'd backtrack. >> that's quite interesting. that's a really interesting way. when it did come out, things were going in the right direction all across the country. things are not there now. a very different response, andy, from another republican governor, asa hutchinson of arkansas, another state getting hammered by covid. he said yesterday, quote, in
hindsight, i wish that had not become law. he's talking about a ban -- a law banning local mask mandates in the state that he signed into law earlier this year, and he very clearly said, in hindsight, i wish that had not become law, because of where things are now. what's the difference between these republican governors? >> i think he's missing a pronoun when he says that had not become law. he signed that into law. good for him for recognizing the situation he's in, and applause for him for trying to get his state vaccinated. very hard for politicians to admit that they were incorrect. the truth is, signing your own -- prohibiting your own ability to govern your state in the case of a public emergency is playing politics and it's not smart. look, i think the matters for everybody is, if you're not vaccinated, i think you've seen up close what it feels like and
what your neighbors are going through who havaren't vaccinate. if you're not vaccinated, now is a good time to do it. >> what a lot of what we're talking about now is leadership, and the example of leadership. we learned today that president obama, who you worked for, he's decided to cancel a big birthday party he had planned for this weekend. it was going to be hundreds of people all outdoors, even with vaccine requirements and testing protocols they apparently had in place. the big thing is canceled and it's scaled down to family and close friends. do you think that was the right call? >> i do. far be it for me to tell president obama what to do on his birthday. i alone have had 15 or 20 people in the last week asking me if they should keep their wedding plans, their meeting plans, keep their travel plans. as people do look to other
public figures, and if you were going to decide what to do with your own wedding or your own event, he's providing a sense of caution, a small gathering is okay, but gathering in large crowds is something he doesn't want to send people the wrong message for. a lot of people do follow what president obama does. a lot of people follow what president trump does. it would be nice to see him set some good examples as well. >> yeah. just the long list of choices and leadership we're looking at right now. andy, thank you very much. >> thanks, kate. coming up, calls for new york's governor andrew cuomo to resign are loud and getting louder. i'll talk with one state lawmaker who said she's already drafted impeachment papers. a big win for the biden win of the democratic party and also for trump's hold on the republican party. the special elections in ohio that grabbed everyone's attention. with hydration that beats the $400 cream.
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governor sexually harassed nearly a dozen women over a period of years. one of his accusers reacting this way to cuomo's defiant response to the report. >> it wasn't an apology and he didn't take accountability for his actions. he can't once apologize and then say he didn't do anything wrong. he blamed me and said that i simply misinterpreted what he had said, but his line of questioning was not appropriate. >> now the new york state assembly is ramping up efforts for an impeachment probe. 48 members would vote for impeachment. 76 are needed to pull it off. joining me is one of those calling for governor cuomo to resign. uni liu. i'd like to foes cuss on the report before we get to impeachment. what bothered you the most?
>> every page of it bothered me. i read all of it last night. what this report says is at least 40 witnesses who swore under oath, under penalty of imprisonment from lying that they witnessed conduct from governor cuomo that the attorney general said amounts to a pattern of criminal activity, clear violations of law, and the governor's response has essentially been, i didn't do anything, fake news. new york obviously deserves a lot better than that. you just played a clip from the incredible charlotte bennett who was talking very directly to the response that he gave where he named her and continued to abuse her and gaslight her on television. >> i actually did want to get your take on what you thought when you heard and saw, because the images that were run by his team as well were part of this of the governor's recorded video
response. what did you think of it? >> i mean i said before and i'll say it again, that he was gaslighting new yorkers now the same way he was gaslighting the women that he abused. he continued to gaslight charlotte during the video that he played and in his statements. it took 179 witnesses and a statewide investigation by the attorney general to even get people to hear what folks are saying and have been saying about his abusive and predatory and very toxic work environment. >> we're showing on the other side of your screen, some of the images that were run by his team during that recorded video of him trying to say he kisses people all the time. he does this to everybody. that was part of his argument. >> he said it was cultural and generational.
>> i get that you don't believe that at all. >> i don't think this is a cultural or generational divide, not at all. >> you said you have had impeachment articles prepared for a while now. how soon do you think impeachment will begin? >> i think it's a process that should have already started, but i think that this is really up to the call of our speak. we have to be in session and the session is only called back at the will of the speaker. it's up to our speak. right now he's saying that the judiciary committee needs to finish their investigation. they said they're going to do it expeditiously. so i'm assuming that they have a meeting on monday. i'm hoping that that's as quickly as they go. i think we need to go as quickly as possible.
every day that we're not im impeaching this governor, our legislature is not acting, is another day that his staffers are in danger of more abuse and harassment. >> are you confident that you will have the numbers to remove him? >> i'm confident. >> our latest count was something like 43 members have indicated. you think it's beyond that? >> it's much beyond that. >> do you have a count of what you think the level of impeachment is? >> i think there's a running tally made up by a couple of young people who had put together a spreadsheet, but we are basically not allowed to, quote, unquote, take a vote in pri private. from what i'm hearing, there has been zero numbers not calling for resignation or impeachment. >> thank you so much for your time. i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you so much for having
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florida's public schools are grappling with a back-to-class balancing act, how to keep students and staff safe from the state's covid surge and at the same time the avoid retaliation from the governor. republican governor ron desantis is threatening to withhold funding from districts that require masks in class. florida's second largest school district, broward county, is hitting pause on its plans because of that threat. at least two others are working around the governor's order including duval county public schools. that's where leyla santiago is now. what are you hearing? what's happening. >> reporter: we talked to parents who got emotional over
the mask issue in schools. there is a very strong divide when it comes to who should be wearing masks in school and who should make that decision. less than a week away from school, however, we realize it's not just the parents voicing concerns. >> dear superintendent, dr. green and school board members, i would like to encourage the requirement of masks at school in duval county. >> reporter: in a letter to school leaders, lila hartley describes her little brother, 10-year-old will, isn't old enough to get the vaccine. >> i'm worried if vaccines are not required, my brother could go to school one day and the next be dying in the hospital. >> at school i wear two masks because i want to make sure i don't get sick. >> reporter: their father, matt hartley, wants duval public
schools to mandate masks. >> i care about your kid as much as i care about your kid. i don't want any kid to is aring being hospitalized or getting long covid symptoms or just being a part of our community spread. >> reporter: mandating masks, however, would defy an executive order signed by governor ron desantis banning schools from forcing students to wear masks. after hearing from dozens of parents, the duval county public school board voted to change its code of conduct for students late last night. >> any student not wearing a mask pursuant to this policy must prove his or her or their parent or guardian, complete the opt-out procedures. >> reporter: moms for liberty, a nationwide group whose local chapter of duval county believe requiring masks in school is government overreach. mother of two keisha king will not send her daughter to school with masks. >> the best and most fair thing
to do is give parents the option of whether they want their children to wear a mask or not. >> reporter: what the american academy of pediatrics and the cdc says is best, universal indoor masking at schools to prevent unvaccinated students and stop the spread of covid-19. >> masks not only prevent me from passing it to you, there also is you not giving it to me. vaccinated people do have the possibility of trance mighting the virus even though they're not sick. it's layers of coverage. >> reporter: and layers of comfort and security for students like lila hartley and her little brother, both well aware of the fiery debates surrounding the masks they're advocating for in the upcoming school year just days away. >> it's okay to have your own opinion. you can think what you want to think. but also, these masks have proven that they're saving, that
they're saving people. masks are important so we can continue to enjoy in-person school and not have to hurt families and staff with this terrible virus. sincerely, lila hartley, student at landon middle. >> reporter: kate, duval county not the only district to take up the issue. last night in alachua county, the school board voted to require masks for the first two weeks of school given the surge in cases. >> leyla, thank you so much, good to hear from lila. a smart chica. coming up, teachers, firefighters, city employees, if you work in denver city government, you must get vaccinated or you risk losing your job. why the mayor wants to go further with his vaccine mandate, maybe further than any other city in the country so far. i leave the entirety of my estate. what?! turns out, sarah's right about the general.
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impact more than 72,000 workers. joining me right now is denver mayor michael hancock for more on this. mayor, thanks for being here. denver's vaccination rate is at like 70% which is one of the highest in the country. why did you feel the need to take this step and extend it to private businesses? >> kate, first let me thank you for having me this morning. important issue. we really decided, and what has worked for denver, is that we look forward, lift our heads up and say what's in front of us. as we look at the horizons and realize, not only are we dealing with the covid virus, but a very transmissible delta variant, and we've got a cold season in front of us where the virus tends to thrive. with those concerns in front of us, we felt we needed to take bold action. you're right, we've done well in getting people vaccinated. a lot more work ahead of us.
with the cold season, the rise in virus, the variant. we had to take bold action. >> what's not clear is how you plan to hold private businesses and organizations accountable once the september 30th deadline has passed. how do you? >> we've got to be focused on what's important here and not be worried about the wrong stuff. this is about compliance. we've had many conversations with private employers who want to make sure their workforces are safe and healthy for their employees, but also for their customers. they're going to this into their own hands an make sure that they are following through and making sure their employees vaccinated. through public health inspections and regular contact, we hope to develop a system where they can upload information, but also during our inspections, we can determine how people are doing with regards to vaccinations.
>> what is the punishment? there's got to be a punishment or you don't hold people accountable. you'd love to work in a world where you don't have to do that, but that's not the world we work in. >> absolutely. >> is it fines? what holds it accountable? >> it is fines. let me be clear. i want to say again, first and foremost, the objective is compliance. that's what we want. if people get vaccinated, we all are safer. but absolutely employers and businesses can face fines by the city and county of denver, public health department if they're in a high-risk, high-venue location. >> as you know, when you put in place a requirement for employment, you may lose some workers. the local teachers union is not happy about this. they have spoken up about it. are you prepared to lose people when you're already looking at a tight labor market? >> we are. i'll tell you, kate, we really want to work with folks who work
for our city and county, work for our schools, maybe part of our first responders team who worked so hard during this pandemic. this is not about taking people's jobs. our number one objective is compliance. we will work with employees and employers to continue to raise awareness, continue to let them know the mandate is in place, and hopefully we gain compliance from that. here is how i look at it. if you choose not to be vaccinated, you're choosing to dismiss yourself from work, to fire yourself. it's not the mayor, it's not your employer firing you. you've made that decision as an individual. we recognize we may lose some folks from employment. the reality is nothing trumps the public health and safety of people that we are serving, and that's why we put these orders in place. we do not take these orders lightly. we understand what it means to people. we do them for a reason, with a great deal of data and deliberation and consultation with experts in the field. this is not to politicize or to
create a power move by government. this is about the public health and safety of all residents and employees in the city of denver. >> denver mayor, michael hancock, thank you. >> as always, thank you, kate. >> coming up for us. it was dem versus dem. why a special election primary in ohio was so closely watched. with the result is, what does it say?
this morning big primary contest in ohio getting a lot of attention. the establish pick in the democratic primary, shontel brown will win the primary, defeating progressive nina turner. it's not only
that this pitted the democratic establishment against the progressive wing, this primary got quite ugly along the way. what can we take from all of this? joining us is cnn political director david chal land. >> both of these ladies had a long history in cleveland through local politics. the race become nationalized and that changed the tenor of it. over the weekend we saw senator bernie sanders supporting neen that turner. we saw members of the
congressional black caucus supporting shontel brown. president biden's agenda was at the center of the conversation. which one of these candidates will help push his agenda forward. shontel brown was the answer. she said she was going to run as a partner. it was
a coalition of moderate democrats, also jewish democrats who were concerned that some of the rhetoric that nina turner had been saying over the years. of course, african-american voters in that district. so a coalition of voters, but it continued setting the signal that moderate democrats, the joe biden wing of the party, if you will, is alive and well and winning these primary races. i just learned a few moments ago, an official says the president called shontel brown to congratulate her, and looks forward to her winning in november. with a district like this, it's a fait accompli -- >> it's the ball game.
you don't like to say it because you like to be most perfectly precise. i'll say it. it's the ball game. david, i heard your voice this morning. you can't draw too many conclusions from a special election. with this, do you see this as offering any message for the midterms? >> in terms of the midterms, kate and what jeff just said, this is not a competitive battleground district. this won't determine control of the house. it's a reliably democratic district. yes, this gives us information about the state of the democratic party and where you can build broader coalitions inside a democratic primary. but is different than all those battleground districts that will determine which party controls the house. as you know, there's been real concern inside the democratic leadership in the house charged with maintaining the democratic majority, that their messaging can get off base when the
progressives take the message too far to the left, harder to win those true battleground districts. i do think there are some lessons here about creating as broad an appeal as possible for the democrats in the biden era with the president still having majority approval in this country, a lot of democrats are trying to say to the candidates, tie yourself to joe biden more so than just to the progressive wing of special interests. >> progressive democrats are showing kind of a lot of strength and power at the same time. look no further than cory bush and how she single-handedly sitting on the capitol steps, forcing another eviction moratorium. you see strength there, too. i want to turn in a different way. i want to turn to the republican side of this, if i can. president trump's pick in ohio, in another ohio race also won. mike carey winning the seat for
steve stooifer's seat. what do you see here, jeff? >> kate, it shows president trump still is very popular in his base. this is a big primary field, 11 candidates or so. a lot of them are splitting up the share of the republican establishment vote. mike carey, a novice, a lobbyist but got the support of the former president, you can see those numb. won by more than 20 percentage points. for anyone who thinks donald trump doesn't have juice in his base, they're wrong about that. he he's very strong in his primaries. he'll continue playing in primaries. that gives some consternation to some republican leaders. this will not affect the outcome of the broader balance of power
in the house of representatives. >> everyone listen to jeff and da david. you cannot take too much from one race. >> it gives us a snapshot of the state of the parties right now. that's really important. >> good to see you guys. thank you. coming up, team usa shattering more world records at the tokyo olympics. a live report, next. because a quality night's sleep is scientifically proven to help increase energy and improve recovery. and it keeps you at your best all day long. the new sleep number 360 smart bed is temperature balancing. and it helps keep you asleep by sensing your movement and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. proven quality sleep is life-changing sleep. only from sleep number. no ink! ugh! i need you to print, i need you. you think you're empty? i'm empty. do you suffer from cartridge conniptions? be conniption-free, thanks to the cartridge-free epson ecotank printer. a ridiculous amount of ink!
another world record shattered at the tokyo olympics, this one in the women's 400 meter hurdles. cnn's coy wire is joining me live from tokyo with more. >> reporter: women are dominating here in tokyo. a woman break the world record in the 400 meter hurdles but had to settle for silver. sydney mclaughlin the world record holder was trailing at the last hurdle but the 21-year-old found another gear and shattered her own world record by nearly half a second to win gold. mohammed won that silver even though her time broke the old world record as well. she said they are like iron
sharpening iron. allyson felix finished second if her final heat. the 35-year-old is competing in her third olympic games but the first time as a mom. her time was the first time she's gone sub 50 since giving birth back in november of 2018. after mental health struggles for simone biles to withdraw from all but one event here in tokyo, she revealed she was coping with the death of a family member. she found out her aunt passed away a couple of days prior. quote, at the end of the day, you have to be a little bit more mindful of what you say online because you have no idea what these athletes are going through as well as in their sports. simone biles posted on instagram that she was leaving tokyo with a full heart. she says she's had a lot of
support and it really helped her through this time. >> you have no idea what athletes are going through. that applies to everything. thank you all for being here today. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. ♪ hello. welcome to "inside politics." covid cases climb above 90,000 new infections per day. the white house effort to slow the surge includes getting the pfizer vaccine fully approved asap and a new confrontation with republican governors. plus, former president obama's birthday bash another covid