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racing the clock. >> this is one of the largest, most difficult air lifts in history. >> will the president be able to keep his promise to evacuate tens of thousands of people from afghanistan? >> i made the decision. the buck stops with me. >> white house national security adviser jake sullivan and republican congressman and veteran adam kinzinger join me to discuss, next. astron astronomical rise. in covid infection. vivek murthy is ahead. congressman paul mitchell left his party over election lies. months later, as he bravely faced death from cancer, mitchell did one last interview with his final message. >> learn to understand people
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and judge less. and love more, and less hatred. hello, i'm brianna keilar in washington where the state of our union is worried about friends at home and abroad. outer bands of tropical storm henri have begun to pummel the eastern coast of the united states. henri is expected to make l landfall in hours on long island or new england. all the latest and an update about expected flooding and storm surge ahead. now, we are also watching the situation in afghanistan, at the kabul airport, growing more dangerous and desperate by the minute with 14,000 people there waiting to get out. the state department warning americans in afghanistan not to travel to the airport, as a top u.s. official warns there is a
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strong responsibility isis will attempt an attack there. a pentagon spokesperson did not rule out the possibility that u.s. troops would leave the airport to rescue americans who could not get there safely. and president biden promised to evacuate any americans who wanted to leave as well as tens of thousands of afghan partners who helped the u.s. during the war. over a 24-hour period this weekend, the u.s. evacuated 3,800 people from afghanistan and the secretary of defense has moved to propel commercial airliners to move refugees from the region. sam kiley is there at the airport. can you tell us what you're seeing? >> reporter: brianna, it's comparable to what clarissa ward has reported when she left. things have settled down at the airport. large evk whevacuees are
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from qatar and the united states and, of course, large military presence here. some of the refugees also are gathering on the outskirts of the perimeter, which we haven't yet been able to see, brianna. the situation inside the airport is comparable to the situation outside the airport where thousands have been gathering, where at least seven people were crushed to death in a stampede yesterday. i was speaking just as he was about to embark on a qatari flight, well-known journalist here evacuated. he said he didn't know whether he was happy or heartbroken. he was going to be alive, already left the country once during a taliban threat, in 2016, and came back on a lower profile. of course, he is leaving behind his family and friends, not sure
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if ever he would be able to return to his home country. another one getting on that flight, another former journalist saying he thought afghanistan was suffering a catastrophic brain drain now. that is something that the taliban is anxious to avoid while simultaneously they've been promising to have a more inclusive regime compared to the medieval rengime they had in th late 1990s, but on the ground, there is absolutely no faith in their promises of that, a consequence of which the huge number of people trying to get out, brianna. >> there is no faith. that is why they are risking life and limb to get out. sam kiley, thank you so much for that update from kabul. let's talk now with the national security adviser, jake sullivan, joining us from the white house. thank you so much for being with us this morning. can you just tell us, do you know how many americans and legal permanent residents are currently in afghanistan,
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awaiting evacuation? >> reporter: thanks for having me, brianna. we cannot give you a precise number. we believe it is several thousand americans who are -- we are working with now to try to get safely out of the country. the reason we can't give you a precise number is that we ask americans, when they come to afghanistan, to register with the embassy. many come and do that, but then they leave and never deregister. many others come and don't register at all. that's their right. it was their right, of course, to remain in afghanistan as long as they wanted and it's our responsibility to get them out. that is what we are in the process of doing right now. we are working hard to organize groups of americans, to bring them on the air base, get them on flights and get them out of the country. >> their family members are certainly advocating for them. there are a number of veterans who are, as well. do you have a sense from that the number of americans that may still be in country there, who have people or who themselves have contacted u.s. government to say they're there? >> as i've said, we've been in contact with a few thousand
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americans, and we are working hard to make arrangements, make plans with each of those people and each of their families to get them safely to the airport and get them out. we're communicating with them by email, by telephone, by text message. they've been very responsive and, as i said before, this is an operational and logistical challenge and a risky and dynamic environment. but we are executing a plan to get those american citizens out of the country. >> now the question is, how do you do it? and the pentagon yesterday hint ed as much at this, that this could be going on or may be going on. are there special operations happening right now? are there extractions happening outside of the airport within kabul to get american scitizens to safety? >> i am not going to speak to the operational parameters of what is happening at the air field right now. what i will tell you, brianna, and this is very important, is that for the american citizens
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right now who are sitting at home, we will be reaching out and contacting you. we've already spoken with nearly all of them. we will be making a plan for them to come to the airport and have secured the capacity to get large numbers of americans safe passage through to the airport and on to the air field. the goal here is to move people as rapidly and safely and efficiently as possible. that's what we're doing. >> you know, there are many afghans, including afghans who have a legal eligibility to be in the u.s., who are braving those conditions you're warning americans against at the airport, because they know that the u.s. has a deadline. "the new york times" reports that the 2-year-old daughter of an interpreter who worked for an american company, who worked with american troops, was trampled to death in a crowd yesterday. and you know the situation outside the airport isn't getting better, it's getting worse. how many afghans still need to be evacuated? and can you guarantee them that even past august 31st, you will
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get them out safely? >> first, brianna, we are all heartbroken by the scenes outside the kabul airport. i read the same article you read about that young girl. and it's terrible. it's just awful and tragic, and it is a sign of the human costs of what is unfolding in afghanistan right now. what we are doing, every single minute of every single hour of every single day is working to establish as much order and security outside that air field as possible, to create safe passage for all civilians, including the afghans who work for us, to the airport, to get them on planes and get them out. and we are not going to rest until we have followed through on getting visas to all of those people and getting them on planes and getting them out of the country. >> those crowds, of course, are vulnerable to attack. how real is this isis threat? >> the threat is real.
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it's acute. it is persistent. and it is something we're focused on with every tool in our arsenal. commanders on the ground have a wide variety of capabilities they're using to defend the air field against a potential terrorist attack. we're working hard with our intelligence community to try to isolate and determine where an attack might come from. it is something that we are placing paramount priority on stopping or disrupting and, we'll do everything we can as long as we're on the ground to keep that from happening but we are taking it absolutely deadly seriously. >> the u.s. is talking, coordinating with the taliban. the hakani network, a powerful hardline ally of the taliban, affiliated with al qaeda, is also involved in negotiations and security in kabul. its leader was designated as a terrorist a decade ago. is the u.s. talking, is the u.s. coordinating with the hakani network? >> we're engaging through military channels with the taliban.
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the taliban, obviously, to an extent, are integrated with the hakani network. our effort is with the taliban military commanders currently in charge of security in kabul because they need to understand that americans and those who have worked with us need safe passage to the airport. if that passage is disrupted or operations are intervfered with the united states will deliver a swift response. >> you actually, at some point this week, at least one point, stopped flights leaving the kabul airport as you had evacuees building up inside because there weren't places willing to accept the passengers you're flying out at that moment. are you increasing the capacity that other countries are willing to take? >> we now have agreements with 26 different countries on four different continents in what is an immense diplomatic and operational undertaking so that people leaving kabul have places to go.
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we had an operational pause, as you said. right now, flights are taking off, as your reporter just indicated. we are flying people out at an efficient clip. in fact, in the last 24 hours, the united states alone flew out 3900 people on military aircraft and are partners with flights we facilitated flew out 3,900 people for the total of 7,900 people in the last 24 hours. they're moving out to multiple different bases, multiple different countries. and that will continue as this operation unfolds. >> i do want to listen to something the president said on friday that's gotten a lot of attention. let's hear that. >> we know no circumstance where american citizens are carrying an american passport are trying to get through to the airport. to the best of our knowledge, the taliban checkpoints, they are letting through people showing american passports. >> all right. so, we know that's not true. we know there are many instances where that has not been true.
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and the pentagon has acknowledged that as well. we also -- you know, he also said that al qaeda is gone from afghanistan. but, of course, from the u.n., the joint chiefs, we know that is also untrue. why is he misleading with his words here? >> first of all, i reject that characterization with respect to al qaeda. right now our intelligence community does not believe that al qaeda, in afghanistan, represents a threat to the united states homeland. that's what the president was referring to. he has also clearly said over time that al qaeda could, in the future, represent a threat to the u.s. homeland and that is why he has positioned an over-the-horizon capability with intelligence assets and defense assets to ensure that never ha happens. and he has pointed out that we have been able to deal with and suppress terrorist threats in other countries that do have attack capabilities against america without a permanent military presence on the ground. we intend to do the same thing when it comes to afghanistan.
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>> americans who have clearly had problems getting through the taliban? >> first, the president has consistently directed his team to do, and what he has explained, in fact, in that very press conference, is that if there are any issues with americans through the city, we have dealt with those cases one by one and resolved them. when that information is presented to us. there is another challenge, though, brianna, which your team has reported on quite effectively, which is americans who then get to the airport have had a hard time getting inside because of the very large crowds of people outside. that is a logistical challenge we've been working on over the course of the past 72 hours. we now believe we have alternative methods of getting americans into the airport. that's what we're executing as we speak. >> jake, thank you so much for being with us. jake sullivan at the white house. we appreciate it. >> thank you. a critic of both president biden and former president trump over the afghanistan withdrawal, gop congressman adam kinzinger, who served there, will join us
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all in the hope that you never need any of it. ♪ ♪ welcome back to "state of the union." i'm brianna keilar. many afghans who assisted the u.s. military during the war are desperately trying to make their way into the kabul airport. governors from both parties are saying they will offer aid and welcome these refugees, but resistance is already building among some in the republican party. let's talk now with republican congressman adam kinzinger, who served as an air force pilot in
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afghanistan. sir, thanks for being here. i do -- we just spoke with the national security adviser, jake sullivan. i want to get your reaction to what we heard from him. do you think that things are getting better? >> well, i mean, i guess given where we are and the fact that we have the best military in the world that can execute anything, we're better than we were, in a better place than we were a week ago. that doesn't mean we're in a good spot. i think we have a responsibility to talk about what went wrong, where we're screwing up, as we sit here and point fingers at the other party because that's what we're obsessed about. this was a disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. even, you know, jake himself said, yes, there is an acute isis threat on the ground. how is it that we leave afghanistan? we'll be able to maintain a counterterrorism posture, supposedly, with this over-the-horizon imamagic stuff have. but there's already an isis threat there when we're there. what is the taliban like, what prior administrations have said, not attacking isis?
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once we finally leave and finish this evacuation, which i certainly hope we're committed to following through with every american and every afghan that helped us and deserves that shot to come home. i have no idea how we're going to be able to maintain that posture and stop the growth of terrorism. it's a real concern. >> as we're looking at making good on that promise, the u.s. making good on that promise you just talked about, the pentagon spokesman was asked earlier this week about u.s. troops operating outside the kabul airport, and he was clear they weren't doing it. it now seems like that may not be the case. it seems, according to what the pentagon was saying yesterday, that there may be some of that happening. is that your understanding, that u.s. troops are outside the airport, that there could be special operations extract ing people? >> you know, i wouldn't be surprised. i don't know that off anything besides open source reporting. let me say this. i think this is a really
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important thing, brianna. you know, we kind of have this failure of confidence right now in this country. and i think we could do a whole segment talking about what went wrong in the nation-building side of this. i don't think it's as easy as saying we're not good at nation building. but even the people that are totally against afghanistan say we're really good at fighting, we're just not good at bit building back. okay. assuming that, why are we sitting in the kabul airport right now with such a lack of confidence that we're begging the taliban to allow us to save our own citizens, that we're very scared to death to talk about if anybody has gone outside of the wire, because the united states military is truly capable of anything. look, okay, we can fail at the buildback of afghanistan. again, we could have a whole conversation on that where i might disagree a little bit, but we know we're good. and we're sitting around, licking our wounds in the airport. and even president biden at one point said, gee, we just can't
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guarantee the outcome. the united states military can -- by the way, i commend the military for carrying out this almost near-impossible execution of this, particularly given the circumstances they were handed. >> we're seeing almost a bifurcation right now of u.s. citizens being told by, you know, the state department not to come to the airport, it's too dangerous, but you're not seeing these visa applicants or folks who are eligible for that, folks who helped the u.s., being deterred by that. part of that is because they see the deadline, this august 31st deadline and it's coming up fast for them. according to the "new york times," the 2-year-old daughter of a former interpreter was trampled to death in the crowd. do you think the president is making good on his promise to get americans and afghans who helped americans and their families out? >> look, i certainly think he's trying. i'm not going to say that president biden at this moment wants to do anything but that. i think the execution has been extremely disastrous. i also think you have to go back not just early in this
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administration, but especially the last administration and, frankly, even president obama's and say, why was this afghan civ issue, special visas processed so slowly? i've been working on this since we i've been in congress, by the way. we could have been working on t that, people who had been waiting on just one piece of that. why did steven miller in the last administration slow it down? we would be able to slip in, raising the cap on special immigrant visas to get rid of t some of this backlog. the state department under multi administrations, why was it so slow at processing these? we are where we are. what's most important, brianna, there's nobody who never doubts we'll be in a war again. if we fail to follow through on a commitment to these afghans, that's going to put a serious national security at risk. we have a fund set up to help
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afghan refugees and their families and have roadway ed, this is what's amazing to me, $80 million. it shows that the heart of the american people are with these folks' plight. >> you're seeing members of your party, some of whom you mentioned there, president trump, certainly others, mike pompeo, nikki haley, mike pence, and they criticized the president biden administration despite contributing to this siv log. what's your reaction to them rewriting history? >> you know, it's amazing. what breaks my heart probably more than anything on a political side is that america is being displayed out in the world and embarrassed in the world and our american allies are saying america looks weak. honestly, the republicans are putting out talking points to make biden look bad, the democrats are putting out talking points to the administration and past administration. we're so tribalistic it's hard
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to imagine a republican saying everybody is responsible. let's keep in mind, mike pompeo met with the taliban as donald trump was publicly saying we have to get out of afghanistan at all costs. it's not worth it. mike pompeo meets with the taliban and tries to negotiate something. by the way, they end up getting rolled harder than-- almost as as neville chamberlain because they knew what the outcome was. they set this up to fail but always, of course, joe biden could have easily turned this around and instead used it as the excuse to get out. both parties have failed the american people. it can't continue. it particularly can't continue with just pointing fingers while america is embarrassed in front of the world. >> you mentioned the efforts that you are undertaking and many other veterans are joining you in this as well, trying to get afghans, their friends, ou of afghanistan. you are seeing in your party what appears to be a trend for some politicians seeing opportunity in this.
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they're painting afghan refugees as invaders. you know, there are undertones even of racism here. what is your message to people in your party who are doing that? >> for sure. look, here is the thing. most republican members of congress, for instance, i think when we talked about doing this afghan siv program, we had a vote on that recently and only 16 republicans voted against it. those 16 republicans face should be everywhere and should be asked why they did what they did. in the media eco chamber, this fear mongering, they're coming to your neighborhood, these hoards of people that haven't been vetted. that is not america. you know, you can always have questions with how this was executed but america's always been the country that opens our heart. and, by the way, refugees to this country have always been the ones that are extremely entrepreneurial. we all know that. they come here. they work hard. they fight hard for success.
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. welcome back to "state of the union." i'm brianna keilar. fda's full approval of pfizer vaccine is imminent and could come as soon as tomorrow. a major development that could convince more hesitant americans to finally get their shots. for the first time since july, the cdc administered more than 1 million vaccines for three days in a row. and that uptick due, in part, to people getting a dose of reality, seeing the situation where u.s. deaths top 1,000 per day for the first time since march. joining us now is the u.s. surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy. s sir, thank you so much for being with us this morning. i wanted to ask you, because the fda, of course, is poised to give full approval to spfizer's vaccine this week. could that come tomorrow? do you expect that this decision is going to make more americans
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willing to get vaccinated? >> well, brianna, i won't get ahead of the fda's announcement. we've known for a while they were considering the full approval for the pfizer vaccine. and i anticipate if and when that comes, that will have two impacts. i think for people who have been waiting for this, and that's a small number of people, but i think still significant. this may tip them over toward getting vaccinated. but i also think for businesses and universities that have been thinking about putting vaccine requirements in place in order to create safer spaces for people to work and learn, i think that this move from the fda when it comes will actually help them to move forward with those kinds of plans. all of this said, brianna, what's important for us to realize is that we've had strong evidence from real-world data that this vaccine has been doing remarkably well and has maintained a strong safety profile. we've given it to hundreds of millions of people. we've seen it's doing its job. that's why we're continuing to recommend that people get
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vaccinated starting today and as soon as they can, because especially with the delta variant, getting that protection is more important than ever. >> you say that this would tip businesses and colleges to consider mandating the vaccine once it gets full approval. would you urge them to do had an? >> we already know that there are many businesses and personalities that have moved to toward vaccine requirement. one thing some states have been doing, to create a safer school envir environment, requiring that employees in the school, including teachers and other staff are vaccinated as well. to create a safer environment for our kids. all of these are reasonable. when we're faced with the most transmissible variant we've seen to date, the delta variant, when we have our kids essentially is the point of concern in their schools and health and well-being on the line, we have to take every step we can. i think these measures, these requirements we're seeing are
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absolutely reasonable. i think they will help. >> the biden administration unveiled this new booster shot guidance this week, saying that americans should get a third vaccine shot eight months after their second shot. how worried are you that americans just might not get these booster shots? >> well, brianna, it's our responsibility to make sure people know what the science is telling us about covid and about the vaccine protection, and to help people to get those booster shots when that time comes. and i'll tell you, brianna, the reason we made this decision is because we looked at the data very closely. we, meaning myself and the top public health and medical experts in the department of health and human services and we saw while protection against hospitalization and death is remaining strong due to the vac vaccine, there was a waning of reduction and protection against mild and moderate infection, and our worry was as time went on, we may start to see an erosion in the protection against the worst outcomes of covid. we're not recommending a booster
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today because you still have good protection from the vaccines. the week of september 20th, pending the fda and cdc advisory groups weighing in, that's when we'll plan to start the booster shots and we'll do everything we can to build on the last eight months and make sure that people have the accurate information from credible sources. >> what about folks who got johnson & johnson? they're still in the dark about how they will get boosters. some people want to receive a pfizer or moderna shot as a booster when it's available. i know that's not recommended right now, but is it safe? is it unsafe? >> well, i'm really glad you asked, brianna. there are millions of people in our country who received j&j. we want to make sure that their protection continues as well. here is what we would believe. we believe j&j recipients will likely need a booster. we are waiting on some data from the company about a second dose of j&j so the fda can fully evaluate the safety and efficacy of that dose.
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we also have studies under way that are called mixing stusd where we have one type of vaccine followed by another type of vaccine. that would include j&j followed by a pfizer or moderna vaccine. as soon as that data is available, we can present that to the fda and they can also review it for safety. so, as soon as those studies are done, we'll have more to recommend to j&j recipients about the timing of a booster and which shot they should get. >> health officials in mississippi say that poison control center calls are climbing, because they're seeing residents taking something called ivermectin, anti-parasite drugs for horses and cows to treat coronavirus. this has even led to one hospitalization. can you be clear for the american people on this drug? >> brianna, that is he heartbreaking to hear. let me say very clearly that ivermectin is not a recommended treatment for covid-19. it is not a recommended drug to prevent covid-19. the best protection we have
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against covid-19 is the vaccine. if you get covid-19 we actually have treatments that work from steroids to monoclonal antibodies and other treatments but ivermectin is not one of them. what this highlights is the profound cost of health misinformation. we've been seeing health misinformation is a problem for years. but the speed, scale and sophistication with which it is spreading and impacting our health is unprecedented and is happening and largely embedded on social media platforms. this is why i put out a surgeon general's advisory on health misinformation, in part calling companies to account to step up and take more responsibility for this health misinformation on their sites because it is costing people -- >> can i ask you to that point? yes, you have been clear on this. facebook said this weekend that a new story under mining confidence in coronavirus vaccines was the most popular link in the u.s. during the first quarter of 2021.
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so, you've issued this warning, cert certainly, about misinformation. what do you make of this news? >> well, i think it reinforces what we've known for a long time, that there is a lot of misinformation circulating on these sites. i will readily say that the sites have recognized that this is a challenge, and they've stepped up to do some things to reduce the spread of misinformation. and i credit them for that. but it's not nearly enough, because there is still a tremendous amount of misinformation circulating. people who are super spreaders of misinformation are continuing to put out inaccurate information online. and there are algorithms that continue to serve up more and more misinformation to people who encounter it the first time. these are things that companies can and must change and they have a responsibility to do so quickly and transparently. >> dr. murthy, thank you so much for being with us this morning on "state of the union." >> of course. thanks, brianna. good to speak with you again. he chose the truth over
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former michigan congressman paul mitchell left the gop after former president trump tried to question last year's election results and soon after, mitchell resigned to spend more time with his family. tragically, he didn't get much more time.
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he was diagnosed with cancer this year. although he confronted it bravely, the cancer spread and he entered hospice care. his fight to preserve democracy didn't end. he spoke with my colleague, jake ta tapper, weeks before he died. we want share that conversation with you now. >> congressman mitchell, this is an unusual interview. i've never done anything like this before. you're in hospice with cancer, and you said you would like to t talk, but you don't want this interview to air until you're gone. hopefully, that won't be any time soon. tell us, first of all, how you're feeling. >> it's good to be with you. we had it under control and i was in rehab pretty well, then had some issues on the ultrasound and found it had spread significantly. so at that point in time, we just had to recognize reality, so we finished checking into hospice yesterday.
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i believe only god gets to decide. that's what i believe, and that's what i told folks when i was running for office. i don't believe in abortion, and i don't believe in executions, because it's violating what i believe. only god gets to decide. he gets to decide when i'm done, spend some time with my family. my mom always taught us, make a difference. don't just fill up space in the world. make a difference. this is why i did what i did with my career. i don't know that i can make much of a difference now except to my family. i want them to understand that you can die with honor. you can die with peace. why be angry and bitter with whatever god you believe in when your time is up? >> what are you happy about as you look at your life?
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what are you proud that you've been able to witness and to see? and what do you think you're going to miss the most? >> i'm going to miss my family, of course, first and foremost. what i miss right now is i w wish -- i would like to talk with president biden and the administration about we need real bipartisanship. our society is struggling. and it's struggling because people can't accept they believe in different things and look for what they agree on and decide if they're a good person or not. that's too bad. for example, if you don't agree with us on having a vaccine or not a vaccine, they won't talk
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to you. it's breaking up families. >> i imagine this experience has given you an even more unique perspective on the day-to-day concerns. a lot of people in politics and the news media have spent a lot of our lives dealing with. when you look at the state of our politics from your hospice bed, what does it look like? >> i think you have to choose whether or not -- you have to choose whether or not to love people or go through life seeking political gain, surrounded by hatred. i think we lack the willingness to just accept people. like our good friends on the dem democratic side. you may only agree 10 to 15% but i think the world of you. >> i've always called you congr
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congressman, but i'm going to call you paul, if that's okay. >> that's okay. we're well past congressman. >> it's been an honor, you and i have become friends with interviews, phone calls and text messages and it's been an honor to know you. and it makes me very sad that we're going to lose you. you've been a person who has conducted himself with real honor and integrity. and i hope you know that there are a lot of us out here who think that about you. >> i appreciate you saying that. i don't know that it's -- i do now a little better but it's not something i think of. for me it's innate to just say where can we agree? there's value in people you don't agree with. it's easy to find people you agree with. there's value in people that you may disagree with on something
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strongly. that doesn't inherently make them a bad person. learn to understand people and judge less. and love more and have less hatred. it's a strong society, political and it's destructive and just take the time to care about the other person. if you care about them, it's hard to hate them. >> you have six children, including a young son. someday maybe he'll watch this video, maybe when he's in his 20s, 30s, 40s. what do you want him to remember about his dad? >> i think i want all of my kids -- as you mentioned, my
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youngest is adopted from russia. we adopted him when he was two, or 22 months. when it became clear that i couldn't uphold my responsibilities as a dad to him in congress once i was resigning, i retired, i want my kids to know i did my best. and i did my best in my time. the surgery i had, they gave me a 10% chance of surviving, and i wasn't going to die. i was trying to beat this cancer and it slapped me. but i'll do my best to maximize the time we have. >> i want you to preserve your
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strength for the day, and i hope you have a long, long time left, but however much time you have left, i hope it's filled with love and peace, paul. thank you for taking time with us today. >> thank you for taking the time. >> congressman paul mitchell died this past week. he was 64. 40 million people are under storm alerts, and those on the coast being warned to get out as henri threatens new york and new england. we'll have the latest track, next. ♪ ♪
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