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know it can feel futile. >> this is what so many vets are going through. i think a lot of americans don't realize the bond between american veterans and also these civilians who have worked with af afghans and, quite frankly, are alive because of these afghans. when some of these american vet veterans and so forth look at these afghans and their kids, they see their own kids. >> yeah. >> they see people who kept them alive. they're not really making a distinction between the importance of american lives and the lives of their friends. these are their friends. these are their brothers and sisters in arms, and they really want to see them delivered to the safety that they've been promised by the u.s. >> we appreciate what's going on in houses like yours around the country. cnn coverage continues right now. very good monday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. the desperate evacuation from afghanistan is accelerating, though fraught with danger. overnight a violent firefight
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erupted at the kabul airport between u.s., german and afghan forces guarding the airport and a group of unknown assailants. according to a white house official, the u.s. has evacuated 10,400 people on sunday alone. that, the most in a 24-hour period to date. a source close to the situation on the ground tells cnn the numbers at the airport, those waiting there, still remain close to 13,000 this morning. we'll have more on that in a moment. we are also following an imminent and major milestone in the race to vaccinate americans. two biden administration officials say full fda approval of the pfizer vaccine could come as early as today. once that happens, surgeon general says more businesses and institutions will likely begin to mandate vaccinations. another key step in the race to stem the surging delta variant. we're going to get to that in a moment. let's begin, though, with the violence in afghanistan.
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evacuations there, our team is tracking all the latest developments from the pentagon, white house. let's kick things off with nick pate en walsh in doha, qatar, where a lot of those evacuated af afghans are going. have u.s. forces been able to calm the situation down, first? >> reporter: yeah. it appears to be -- i don't want to say isolated because i heard gunfire outside the airport but incident that occurred at 4:00 a.m. in which apparently a sniper, not quite know who he was working for, shot dead one of the afghan security forces that assist u.s. troops in securing that base. now the afghans he was with returned fire, but they did so in the general direction of some u.s. marines, who thought they were under attack. as far as i understand, fired back, injuring four afghans. a real sign, frankly of the confusion. there was sleepless, zmausted
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marines when i was there a week ago. now literally seeing people on their last legs. fraying security around the edges of the airport and frankly there is some sort of element wishing harm to those on the base, hence the sniper. signs beginning to deteriorate and many talking about the isis threat. the taliban on the outskirts of that pace as well. the numbers utterly extraordinary. 20,000 on the base. they've gotten that down to 13,000 in the space of about 24 hours. 10,000 people flown out. that is just absolutely staggering. and of those left, the majority, i understand, are afghans, some not entirely with documentation. the question is, how much longer does this go on for? and a source i spoke to on the base say there's no talk at this point of extending past august 31st. that's the deadline that joe biden originally set. that's the deadline the taliban want them to stick to. that means there are very fast
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moving days ahead as they bring out the remainder that they can and begin to withdraw the nearly 6,000 troops on the base. jim? >> we'll see if they're able to extend that deadline, nick paton walsh. a source for the taliban t tells cnn that all u.s. forces must leave afghanistan by the end of the month. it comes after president biden said on sunday that his administration might keep troops there beyond what is a self-imposed august 31st deadline in order to complete those evacuations like the one you're seeing there. jeremy diamond joins me now from the white house. i wonder, is there a white house response to this taliban statement here? i imagine the u.s. doesn't have to listen to the taliban. does it? if it's willing to react with force. what's the position there at the white house now? >> reporter: listen, officials have been very careful as they discuss the possibility of extending this august 31st deadline. we did hear from the president directly on this yesterday.
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he did say that discussions are under way about the possibility of extending that deadline past august 31st. the president, in the past, has said he believes these evacuations can be completed by that deadline but that he will kind of determine whether or not it needs to be extended once he crosses that bridge. but it's clear that the taliban do not want the u.s. to extend past that. and then, of course, if the u.s. and taliban are at odds, again, the u.s. just controls that airport. so they are encircled by taliban fighters. that can become a very dicey situation. the president did say that the u.s. is doing more to get americans safely to the airport. listen to him just yesterday. >> we're working hard and as fast as we can to get people out. we've made a number of changes including extending access around the airport, the safe zone. >> reporter: it's clear that the united states military also app
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appears to be doing more to get americans who are outside of the airport actually into the airport and on to flights, but those efforts, many of those are still staying quite secret. one thing to watch for tomorrow, president biden is expected to meet virtually with g7 leaders, and sources are telling us that those g7 leaders are also e expected to press the president to extend that august 31st deadline. it's not just americans and af afghans but coalition partners who need to get their people out. jim, finally, the president still stressing that this evacuation was going to be hard and painful no matter what, despite the intense criticism he is facing, including from members of his own party. the president insisting this has been well executed. but, again, the criticism is really far reaching on the execution of this, if not for the decision to withdraw all together. >> jeremy diamond, thank you very much. right now the u.s. military is establishing, it says, alternative routes to the kabul airport for the people trying to escape the country. many of them simply can't get there. it's due to increasing threats impoed by the terror group known
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as isis k. this, according to u.s. defense officials. cnn's barbara starr is at the pentagon. how is the u.s. military doing this? the president says he is extending the cordon, in fact, outside the airport walls. we're hearing of alternate routes. does that mean that u.s. forces are leaving the kabul airport to escort people there? >> reporter: jim, the pentagon, white house, state department, everyone is being very close hold about the details of this for obvious reasons, which is they're trying to keep these routes going as long as they can without having that isis k element know where they are and potentially interfere. right now, isis k, isis in afghanistan is a major concern for the administration. they are concerned very much that they, that isis group, may be planning an attack. the national security adviser, jake sullivan, spoke about it over the weekend. >> the threat is real.
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it is acute. it is persistent, and it is something that we are focused on with every tool in our arsenal. our commanders on the ground have a wide variety of capabilities that they are using to defend the airfield against a potential terrorist attack. we are working hard with our intelligence community to try to isolate and determine where an attack might come from. it is something that we are placing paramount priority on stopping or disrupting. >> reporter: so right now, if there's any shred of potentially positive news in all of this, it's that the u.s. works with the taliban to secure efforts to get americans and qualified afghans, third-party nationals inside the gates at the airport. they know that the taliban essentially is sworn enemies of isis k. and behind the scenes, they hope the taliban does something about it. >> we'll see. are they a trustworthy partner on had an? barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you very much. for a moment, some good news
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at home, on the race to vaccinate americans. the fda could grant full approval for the pfizer vaccine as early as today. remember, it's been operating to this point under what's called emergency use authorization. and many tens of millions of americans have been vaccinated. but making it fully approved could be a major step in ramping up evacuations as the delta variant fuels infection surges in many states. medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins me now. elizabeth, explain why making this fully approved would be so significant. >> you know, jim, in some ways it's not going to make a difference for people like you and me. we're already vaccinated. we got it under emergency authorization. it's the same drug. same clinical trial with more than 40,000 people. with the approval they've had more time to look at that safety and efficacy data. once it is approved then the thought is that people might feel more comfortable. the unvaccinated might feel comfortable with it. let's take a look at that and
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then some other elements that could mean this approval will make a difference. so again, it could encourage people to get vaccinated. some people might say it was only authorize ied in an emergency way. i want the full deal. i want the full approval. now i'll roll up my sleeve. unclear how many people will feel that way. it could also encourage businesses, schools, restaurants, et cetera, to mandate vaccinations. some are already doing it now. to get into a restaurant in new york city, you need vaccinated. some groups will feel now i feel more comfortable to tell people they need to be vaccinate d to work in my business, et cetera. let's look at how vaccinations are doing in the united states. they really had that spike in the spring, then really tank ed over the summer. and went up slightly very, very recently because people got scared because of delta. so, let's look at who is left. 84 million americans -- 82,
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rather, million americans, have not gotten vaccinated even though they are eligible. that's 29% of the eligible population. so still there's 29% of people living in the united states who could get vaccinated, who haven't. it's hoping that this full approval will make a difference to at least some of them. jim? >> trying to figure out 71% have, and given where we were a few months ago, that's no small thing. elizabeth cohen, thanks so much. >> thanks. florida's largest school district starts in-person learning today with a mask mandate in place. the miami-dade superintendent just telling cnn the district stands firm on this requirement, despite the governor's threats to penalize them for doing so. we'll go live there, next. plus, in-fighting among house democrats potentially coming to a head in the coming d days. could those disagreements hold up president biden's sweeping infrastructure agenda? we'll speak to a lawmaker at the center of that debate.
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desantis' order for requiring such mandates. one of the school districts going against the governor now. parents who filed a lawsuit over the ban will appear in court. leyla santiago is on the ground there. first, an anti-mandate was in place. now the schools are enforcing the mandate. is anything stopping them this morning? >> reporter: we went into this miami-dade high school and saw that the students were wearing masks. of course, that makes sense, right? last week, miami-dade passed the mask mandate that does not allow for a parent opt-out. this is the largest school zrik, as you mentioned, jim, in florida. 330,000 students. let's back up and go to the timeline as to how we got here. the governor signed that executive order that said those type of mandates not allowed in florida. two school districts moved
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forward with it anyway and have since been told by the state they are in violation of the law, and that state funding will be when would. since the state made that declaration, five more school districts moving forward with those mask mandates anyway, several others considering it as we speak. so, as i was in this school, talking to the superintendent, i asked him, how is he focusing on the excitement of the first day of school and the important things, safety, education and health, when there's so much politics at play? here is his answer. >> i hope to shoulder that responsibility and that stress, and immunize my teachers as much as possible from that. i think that's the responsibility. that's what i've conveyed to the community, to the state, to the federal government. now if there's a consequence, put it on me. if there's a price to be paid, put it on me. exempt our teachers and students from that.
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and i'm willing to shoulder that burden with pride and honor. >> reporter: the miami-dade superintendent saying that he has, since this passed, not had any communication with the governor's office. something else interesting. the miami-dade mayor was also here for the first day of school, and she was asked if miami-dade as a county would be taking any similar steps as the white house, offering to provide money if the superintendent's salary or school board members' s salary is when would. she said, yes. so now you have local municipalities also saying that they will be supportive of schools mandating masks like this. >> simple public health measure. leyla santiago in miami-dade, thank you so much. beginning next month, health officials will start giving covid-19 booster shots for those who are eight months removed from their second dose of the pfizer or moderna vaccines. new polling suggests that the third shot may be very popular among those fully vaccinated. senior data reporter harry enton
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joins us to break down those numbers. this is important here. tell us how popular these boosters are with folks. >> reporter: they're extremely popular. if you look, there was an ipsis poll conducted toward the end of last month, beginning of this month. what did you see? among those who are vaccinated, look how many said they would likely get it. 87% said they would likely get it if public health officials recommended it. what was also interesting is if it was recommended to get it annually like a flu shot again 87% of vaccinated adults said they would. so they're quite popular. to put this into some perspective, we can look at this in real-world numbers. what do we see here? if you were to put this into real world numbers, you would see about 130 million americans who will be eligible and likely to get a booster. about 130 million americans. first is just about 70 million americans, adult americans, who have not even received a single
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covid vaccine shot. this, to me, puts into perspective how popular these boosters really will be. >> tell us about the timeline here, because this recommendation is for eight months follow ing getting your second dose. it was the summertime really when those vaccinations peaked. so, what is the timeline look like going forward? >> this is fun. i went into my excel spreadsheet and projected forward eight months. l look, at the beginning of this, gem we're seeing a slow sort of ramp-up. in september we'll generally see only about 5 million americans will be -- or adults will be eligible to receive a booster. that jumps up to 21 million in october, 26 million in november. look at that in december. 43 million. that's jumped forward from april when we were really at the height of the vaccination process among adults. then in 2022, we'll basically get 52 million americans. that number will likely go up as more people get vaccinated but
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we'll see the slow ramp up and a lot more people be eligible for the booster toward the end of this year. >> there's always a political angle here because of biden's handling of covid essential to his approval numbers much as trump's handling was essential to his numbers. how could this time line affect his overall approval rating? >> we've seen over the past few months that joe biden's approval rating has dropped overall as his handling of the pandemic has dropped. look at this. this correlation is so clear. and part of what's driving this is the fact that the delta variant right now is peaking and is on the rise in the united states. and so i think the more people who can get these booster shots and perhaps lower the levels of delta, we could see that biden's handling of the pandemic may go up and that could have a direct translation to his overall approval. we don't know that. certainly biden is very much looking forward to this idea that we could get some boosters
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because that is directly probably related to his overall approval rating. >> and frankly get more of the unvaccinated vaccinated. harry enten, thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. chief clinical officer at providence health system. doctor, good to have you back. the big news is that the possibility as soon as today full fda approval for the pfizer vaccine. i want to play for you how the surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy described this and get a sense of whether you agree. have a listen. >> for people who have been waiting for this, and that's a small number of people, still significant. and this may tip them over toward getting vaccinated. but i also think for businesses and universities that have been thinking about putting vaccine requirements in place in order to create safer spaces for people to work and learn, i think that this move from the fda when it comes will actually help them to move forward with those kind of plans. >> two pieces to that.
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encourage the vaccine hesitant to get this, but also encourage institutions, in effect, or allow them to put in mandates. you deal with a lot of patients and a lot of institutions on this. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree with that. you know, i'm on the west coast. and up and down the west coast, the states of washington, oregon and california all have vaccine mandates in place for health care workers that go into effect once the fda issues full approval. and so we absolutely will see an uptick, because we will have those mandates in place with very, very narrow exceptions. so, we're expecting that all those -- that slice of people that have not yet been vaccinated that want to continue to work in health care, they're going to be coming in. there's a lot of other businesses that have very similar mandates. >> how about for the vaccine hesitant? we heard for some time that some people say listen, once it gets full approval, i'm on board. in your experience with patients, do you believe that's true? >> i do believe that's true.
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you know, i would define a couple different groups in the people that haven't been vaccinated yet. there's a small group of the virulently anti-vaxxers, whatever beliefs they have, read on online, truly believe that the vaccine offers more harm than good. that's a very small group. the other group is much more common. and that's the vaccine hesitant that believe, for some reason, that the vaccine was rushed. which we know it was not. or that, you know, perhaps it might not be right for their family. that's the group that because the fda now has gone through all of the hoops -- they've inspected the factories. they've digested the data. and now, you know, hundreds of millions of people have had these vaccines with really no major known side effects. >> yeah. >> that now, hopefully, that they will actually be much more comfortable and confident to come in and get the vaccine. >> please.
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the data is so clear. keeps people alive and out of the hospital. the next group, right, are children under 12. i've heard widely different estimates as to when the first step emergency use authorize ia iation, will come for children under 12. dr. fauci was saying earlier this month, it could come as soon as september. i just wonder, do you find that timeline realistic? >> you know, it really is when the data gets accumulated. for better or for worse, the more common the infections are, the more rapidly they can collect the data. so, perhaps the silver lining in a horrible delta surge is we might be able to get the data a little bit sooner. because we had been picturing it later in the fall. but with the cases coming up, it might come up a little faster. >> interesting. final question, we're already talking about boosters now, even as you're still trying to convince other people to get their first shots here. there's a new study out of israel that's been doing a lot
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of data gathering, according to "the washington post." a third dose of the pfizer vaccine provides three times more protection than two doses al alone, in 60 and older, one of the most vulnerable groups. tell us the significance of that in terms of this next phase, getting boosters to people. >> it's very significant because they work. initially, we had the two-shot series because we had a primer boost where you let your immune system kind of know what's coming and then the second shot, which we were calling the booster shot. the second shot, which greatly amplifies the immune response. well, it turns out that that third shot does even better. and so that's what we'll be seeing with these booster shots. that it's kind of this building one on the other, really allowing the immune system to develop what we hope will be longer lasting, more effective antibodies to the germ. >> seems like it could be. so essential, right, as a way of
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fighting the delta surge. dr. amy compton-phillips, always good to have you on. >> thank you. search and rescue teams are frantically looking for survivors in tennessee after just a devastating flood there that has killed at least 21 people at the latest count. among the victims, twin babies. we'll take you there. moments away from the opening bell on wall street. futures up this morning. investors are waiting on data from the manufacturing and services sectors. they're also focusing on a key event where the fed could hint at prospects for tapering stimulus in the markets. we'll keep a close eye. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..liket's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that?
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officials are calling the severe flooding in middle tennessee over the weekend a, quote, devastating loss of life. dozens of people in the humphries county community were swept away by the fast-moving waters, and the aftermath is just alarming. so far 21 people are confirmed dead. however, 25 others remain missing this morning. cnn's nick valencia is on the scene of where those floods hit. nick, i look at those pictures. it looks like something out of a hollywood film, cars upside down, swept away like toys. what are you seeing there firsthand? >> reporter: a catastrophic event, no doubt. you look behind me, you see this car that is nose down on the
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edge of a creek. just look at the force of the water, jim, what it did here to this bridge, cracking the road here. i mean, there is damage all around here. people's clothes are hanging in the tree. as we just showed up here to waverly a short time ago we met -- let me put my mask on here. you guys actually survived this, lived through this. what was it like? >> it was scary. i was afraid i wanted to cry much it was really scary. >> reporter: is this your stuffed animal, one of them that made it? >> yeah. >> reporter: you're lucky to have that possession. i bet you're grateful for that. >> yeah. >> reporter: i want you to come here, sayed, you're 11 years old. you didn't think it would be that bad? >> i was thinking it would go to the house but not halfway. i thought it would go a bit. >> reporter: you were in water up to your knees at one point, you said? >> yeah. when we were finally going to leave to go to higher ground, it was up to my knees. >> reporter: your mom is here, just off camera, cleaning out the place.
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looking at your home, you know, when i walked up on you guys, you had all your possessions out on the front lawn. it's got to be just so weird that you lived through this. >> yeah. like, i mean, it's hard, but we're going to find a way just to get back on our feet. >> yeah. >> reporter: araty, you said you play a video game about natural disasters? >> yes. >> reporter: and it seemed like a video game? >> yeah. it reminds me of this game where i have to survive these natural dis disasters. >> reporter: but you survived it in real life? >> yeah. >> reporter: what an experience to live through at 8 years old. >> i guess so. >> reporter: walk with me a little bit, guys. when you look at this creek there's a car over there. see that car upside down in the cr creek? this normally has water in it but doesn't look like this ever i'm sure. >> it never looks like this. >> the river is usually calm. i think it was 2018 flood, our house -- our shed was over t
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there. we had to go over there and get our stuff out. but now it's gone. the stuff in our shed is completely gone. we have nothing left. >> reporter: we wish you the best of luck. we'll be here throughout the day. 21 people died as a result of this. they're some of the lucky ones. 20 people missing. cleanup and recovery effort is ongoing and will be for days if not weeks. jim? >> what a sweet little pair of kids. i'm so happy they're safe, nick valencia. thanks so much. crews are working around the clock to restore power to thousands in the northeast as what is now tropical depression henri dumps heavy rain on the region. 49 million people remain under flash flood alerts. cnn's derek van dam is in rhode island. in the end, what areas are going to feel the worst of this? >> reporter: well, we're talking about the potential of flooding today across portions of long island into connecticut, rhode island, and even into western massachusetts as well. it's just incredible to think that we're talking about flood
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well, the news is in. the fda has now granted full approval to the pfizer biontech covid-19 vaccine for people aged 16 and older. this is the first coronavirus vaccine given full approval by the fda. to this point, remember, it's been under what's known as emergency use authorization, still safe, and many millions of people have been vaccinated. however, big changes expected with this, include ing opening e door to more vaccine mandates. cnn's elizabeth cohen joins us now. i mean, in the scheme of things, this is pretty remarkable speed to get to full approval for a vaccine such as this. >> it is remarkable. they just started the clinical trials about 13 months ago. i mean, that is really amazing. people were talking, oh, it will take four or five years. they went from 13 months from starting the trial to full approval. that is really quite amazing. now, unfortunately, about a
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third of the united states hasn't seen it as amazing as this sort of medical miracle that we were given. some people see it as, wait a minute, that's a little too fast for my taste. i don't care that more than 40,000 people were involved in the clinical trial and that it was declared safe and effective. i want full approval. i want them to take more time. the hope is that those people will now roll up their sleeves now that there's full approval. it's unclear exactly how many people feel that way, that full approval will make a difference. one thing, however, is clear, jim. you talked about mandates. now some places are already doing mandates. if you want to sit inside a new york city restaurant, you need to be vaccinated. that's been true now for a little bit of time. so they did that even without full approval. the hope is, and the plan is that more businesses, more employers, more restaurants will s say, you know what? we have full approval. we are going to mandate it in the same way that daycares and schools and universities, they
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mandate vaccines with full approval all the time. you can't send your child to school without getting certain vaccines, like measles and mumps and whatnot. you are required to have them vaccinated or to have some kind of religious exemption. the hope is that this vaccine will now be one of them. it will just be standard that you will have to be vaccinated to do all sorts of things, such as go to school. >> elizabeth cohen, thanks so much. we also have jeremy diamond at the white house. as you know, getting a handle on covid, big priority. arguably the biggest priority for the biden administration. amid some of their goals, they are slower to get to some of their other advantages nation goals. tell us how the biden administration is receiving this news and what it plans to do next now that full approval has been granted. >> reporter: yeah. this is obviously something that the white house has been waiting f for, hoping that the fda would do soon. and so, obviously, they're elated to timely see this come
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through. one thing that the white house wanted to make threw clear throughout this process is that they were not interfering, they were not pressuring the fda in any way to approve this vaccine. they let that process play out independently on its own. that is exactly what's happened. because of that independent process, there's certainly a hope inside the white house that this now makes it irrefutable for anybody who wants to question the safety and effectiveness of this vaccine, that the fda went through this independent process, looked at all the various studyies, the safety, the efficacy and was able to make this conclusion. to elizabeth's point, there is certainly a hope in the white house that not only will this perhaps help to change maybe two to three out of every ten people who are unvaccinate d to perhap convince them to get vaccinated, but mostly that it will encourage businesses and smugss and universityies to fully enforce vaccine mandates. that is something that those businesses and organizations have signaled to the white house that they would do. now we'll have to wait and see how quickly that moves forward.
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>> the u.s. military, one of those institutions. secretary austin telegraphing that a short time ago. hold on for a moment. we're joined by dr. carlos del rio at emeory university school of medicine. dr. del rio, great to have you on. first, for folks watching here, yes, this came more quickly than often happens, but there's an enormous amount of data. the data shows a very effective and safe vaccine. i'm drawn to the number we have on the screen. 363 million vaccine doses administered in this country so far. pore tell us, for folks listening who perhaps haven't gotten the vaccine, why they should be confident in the process here. >> a number of things have happened. since the vaccine was given emergency use authorization in december, as you have said to us, there have been millions of doses of vaccine administered. and the system has worked in the sense that there has been very
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good surveillance for side effects. and little side effects have been picked up. and as you realize, those side effects have been mostly mild, few and far between. when you look at them, you know, the safety of the vaccine, clearly the efficacy is tremendous. and the safety is fantastic. so the system has worked. and what the fda has done is it has reviewed a lot of information, millions of pages of information that have allowed them to make this recommendation to give what's called biological approval, time approval of the pfizer covid vaccine for 16-year-old and older. for under 15, they're still reviewing the information, looking at the data. and basically i have utmost respect for the fda scientists, because they really do their job
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well and really take their job seriously. >> let's talk about the difference this can make. you've dealt with a lot of patients. some of those patients reluctant, resistant to taking this vaccine. there is talk. we heard this from the surgeon general a short time ago that full approval might move those people. by the way, there's polling that shows full approval, as some of these people have said, once it's fully approved, i'm okay with it. in your experience, is this a mover? is this a game changer for people like that? >> yes. i think it would be a gail changer for a variety of reasons. number one, i've heard from many people say, you know, this is an emergency use authorization. i'm not ready until there's full approval. i think, however, that there is very few people that actually will say, well, i am ready to now take it because it has changed. the reality is that that change for most people is not that significant. it is significant, however, for corpo corporations. i think many korpgs, and i can
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tell you, for example, you know, delta airlines has said we're not going to mandate the vaccine until full approval. many corporations will wait something you do with a lot of confidence and say, well, now that it has full approval, i can go ahead and mandate the vaccine. but the other thing that it does is once it has full approval, the company can then go ahead and advertise on television, which they haven't been able to do up to now and can be sold at, you know, pharmacies and other places, which hasn't happened up to now. and those three are very important things because again, seeing more about the vaccine in the media through advertisement i think will make also a difference for many people who up until now have only been hearing government officials and public health officials talk about the vaccine. >> well, listen, the data shows it saves lives. let's hope that message comes out. we'll have much more on this breaking news at the top of the
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hour, that is the fda giving full approval to the pfizer-biontech covid-19 vaccine. thank you very much. well, other major story we're following this hour, rising tensions within the democratic party in the house over how to enact president biden's sweeping economic plan. could reach a boiling point this week as lawmakers return to washington. the first test may come together as tomorrow when the house is expected to vote on a budget resolution approved by the senate earlier this month. a group of nine house moderate democrats is threatening to rebel against the white house and party leaders to block that vote. instead they want to first pass a separate bipartisan infrastructure package before speaking to the larger plan. one of them, congressman josh god heimer of new hampshire joining me now. thank you for taking the time, congressman. >> thank you for having me, jim. >> i am sure is that you privately and publicly have been getting a lot of pressure to change your opinion. democrats as you know hold a narrow majority in the house. you know the risks here.
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are you and the other eight democrats willing to sink these bills to make your point? >> no, actually just the opposite. we want them both to move forward and pass. but first and foremost, we've got to pass that historic once in a century infrastructure bill that came out of the senate a couple weeks ago with all 50 senate democrats and 19 republicans and, you know, jim, what i heard from the calls i'm getting are from the hard-working men and women of labor and people in my district are saying i don't get this, we voted on this in the senate. it came out all to happen to get shovels in the ground and 2 million to work to pass in the house and that's all we're asking for and the reconciliation package forced the resolution, we can't afford to wait months on that when you've got a third of our -- the idea we would wait doesn't make any sense. so i think this is pretty common sense and we'll work it out. >> i get that.
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but you know the sense here is really the votes. you have nine moderates willing to hold this up, but the fact is, as "the washington post" notes, far more than nine progressives are willing to hold up the bipartisan infrastructure deal if they don't get assurances on other priorities. i just wonder why -- if you're outnumbered? why proceed if you're outnumbered by them? >> that's the exact question, why would some of my colleagues want to hold up the president's infrastructure package for months or say they'll never vote for it at all when this is historic 2 million jobs a year? that's what i don't really understand. people are asking me at home, i don't get that. and i don't have a good answer for them. so, all we're saying is let's have everybody vote on this infrastructure package and this is the president's key priority. send it to my desk as soon as possible. that's what we're trying to do here. you know, you're talking about a lot of lives for a lot of hard-working men and women plus a crumbling infrastructure in too many parts of our country.
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let's get that done, not wait months, not risk it. >> i hear that. >> and move through reconciliation. >> it's the math of the votes. sadly, i wonder have you spoken to speaker pelosi? >> i think they'll be there, the votes. we've talked. i think the votes from all of our caucus voted on infrastructure today they would all be there. no one is going to vote against 2 million jobs a year and fixing -- significant investments in the fight against climate, electric vehicles, fixing the largest investment in water, fixing our water infrastructure and getting lead out of our pipes, right? fixing our roads, bridges, tunnels, broadband. i don't think anyone will vote against that. i think we should take that vote and move forward right away with the bipartisan infrastructure package and then move right to start the reconciliation process. we have to build up and voted on, added to senate, sitting for us to consider. let's consider it and vote on it, get it to the president's desk. >> i get the argument. i get the argument. but again the math is against you here. and i wonder if though that makes common sense to you and probably some of the folks at
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home you're talking to, labor, et cetera, are you really willing to risk what you're risking here? sit important enough for you to have that vote first to risk both of these bills? that's the question. >> well, i don't think -- i don't agree with that. i don't think we're risking anything. i believe both will move forward and get done. i think we'll work this out. i'm ready to sit at the table and so are my colleagues ready to sit at the table and figure this out. and we can. right? this just makes sense to get both bills moving. we can do that. but there's no reason to wait four, five months or more sitting on this infrastructure package and risking that or threatening and holding it hostage like some of my colleagues are doing. that just doesn't make sense. you know, i think we're doing right here for the country and for all those working men and women and frankly for our competitiveness in our economy. so if you drive around jersey, i'm about to go to union hall, drive around jersey. >> yeah. >> third worst roads in the country, worst on time transit, these resources will help fix that and we should start it
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immediately. that's what is best great win for the country, democrats, republicans coming together and then let's move immediately to the next process. >> we'll see how those votes go. i've drin those roads and ridden trains on the tracks. i know what you're talking about. congressman josh got heimer, thank you for taking the time this morning. >> thanks so much for having me. breaking news, in just the last few moments, the fda has just granted full approval to pfizer's covid-19 vaccine. this is a major step in the effort to vaccinate this country. we're going to break down what this means in particular for the future of vaccine mandates. ♪ and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean now helps the places you go too. look for the ecolab science certified seal. usaa is made for the safe pilots. like mac. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance.
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