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victims and afghan refugees, go to for details on ways to impact your world. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer "the situation room." you can always follow me on twitter and instagram @wolf blitzer. tweet the show @cnnsitroom. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. "outfront" next, we will hunt you down. those are the words from president biden as he vows to take on any terrorist that threats the united states now that the afghan war is officially over. the growing mystery in louisiana. the state desperate for food and water and could be weeks before power is restored. republican lawmaker warning of bloodshed as he pushes false and dangerous claims about america's election. let's go "outfront". and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight president biden with a message for isis
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america is not done with you yet. president biden vowing to maintain america's fight against terror as he forcefully defended his decision to end the war on afghanistan. >> let me say clearly to those who wish america harm, to those who engage in terrorism against us or our allies, know this, the united states will never rest. we will not forgive. we will not forget. we'll hunt you down to the ends of the earth and you will pay the ultimate price. >> president on defense. those forceful words because he is on defense. he's saying he will no go after terror where it is today. he explicitly says terror is not where it was two decades ago when al qaeda, of course, launched the 9/11 attacks from afghanistan. >> the war in afghanistan is now over.
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i'm the fourth president who has faced the issue of whether and when to end this war. when i was running for president, i made a commitment to the american people that i would end this war. today i've honored that commitment. >> biden says the war should have ended long ago. of course, this is a war that spanned 20 years, america's longest consumed four presidencies, cost more than $2 trillion and took the lives of 2,461 american personnel, including 13 americans, of course, that died last week. >> costs at research of brown university estimated would be over $300 million a day for 20 years in afghanistan for two decades. what have we lost as a consequence to terms of opportunities? i refuse to continue a war no longer in the service of the vital national interest of our
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people. >> well, these are the images we're now seeing now that the war is over. taliban fighters wearing american military uniforms in afghanistan conducting a full sweep of a hanger used by u.s. troops. that's part of why the president is under such incredible criticism. he is pushing back against critics who explicitly said the united states should have kept a small force in afghanistan. people saying 2500 troops it's worth the money. he says no. there is nothing low risk or low grade about any war. again, citing the loss of the americans that lost their lives and the mental toll the war has taken on veterans. >> we see in the shack ever sh -- shocking and stunning statistic that you give pause to anyone that thinks war can never be low grade, low risk or low cost. 18 veterans on average who die by suicide every single day in
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americacan never be low grade, k or low cost. 18 veterans on average who die by suicide every single day in america , not in a far off place but right here in america, there is nothing low grade or low risk or low cost about any war. it's time to end the war in afghanistan. >> biden's defense of his decision to end the war in afghanistan comes as defense officials tell cnn the military made a secret deal with the taliban, one that resulted in militants escorting americans to the gates of the kabul airport. phil mattingly is "outfront" live outside the white house tonight. phil, obviously, i just played the president there, his forceful defense of his decision but i played it today because it happened today. it didn't happen yesterday when they flew that final flight out when he heard antony blinken speak in prime time, it happened today, the day after. why? >> reporter: it was intentional. there was symbolism in what we saw yesterday.
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the pentagon announcing the departure of the final military flights, symbolic handoff of the baton handling the diplomatic efforts, particularly as it pertains to more than 100 americans on the ground and want to leave and afghan allies that want to leave and the president wanted the moment to himself. not just to layout a forceful defense of what transpired over the course of the last 16 or 17 days but according to one official to pull the lens back a little bit and under score almost encapsulate his broader national security policy. it's what he ran on. he ran on getting out of afghanistan but the approach he wanted to take on foreign policy. that's what you saw from the president today. it the most forceful layout of how he wants to approach foreign policy and why he did not believe the war in afghanistan fit into that approach, not just during the campaign or during the last six or seventh months but the better part of a decade. i think, look, it was very clear the president is frustrated with
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critics and doesn't believe enough credibility is given to the more than 120,000 individuals who were evacuated over a 17-day period. he doesn't believe there were more options on the table in terms of leaving a limited force there as you played in the sound but more broadly, the president wanted to remind people why this is actually happening and get away from what transpired over the last 17 days and get bigger and under score an issue popular with the american people is exactly the issue he's pursuing at this point new time despite the chaos we've seen over the last two weeks. erin? >> thank you. i want to go to charissa ward on the ground in kabul as you know during the evacuation and is now in pakistan. seth jones is the former advisor to the commanding general of the u.s. special ops in afghanistan and david gregory, our political analyst. david, let me start with you on this, the optics and timing of this. president biden coming out to give the most forceful defense yet what p happened but the day
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after the war ended. he let antony blinken go first the night of. did biden say enough to quiet the deep criticism and explain what happened? >> look, i think the president did a good job today. i think it was taking awhile to get to this place. he had a number of remarks to the american people that didn't quite hit the mark but i thought today was really was his views about afghanistan and the withdrawal and about more reflective look at 20 years of the war on terror. there is no constituency for this war anymore, not among trump or conservatives. the withdrawal is violent and messy. i think the president did himself a disservice by setting expectations that it would be easier than it turned out to be, but i thought he did a good job today saying how and arguing
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that the war in afghanistan morphed into something other than what it was at a start. it morphed into something bigger, a nation building exercise that would not be successful. i covered president bush who launched this war and i know he told people by the end of his administration he thought it would be the longest fight and perhaps unwinnable compared to iraq. the bottom line is 20 years later, i mean, these are two wars that we didn't win, that refought to withdrawal, that's had a chilling effect. i say good for the president for standing up and sage enough. politically easier to do that in 2021 than ever before. >> certainly. he talked about that loss of life and calculate with the numbers, the $300 million a day. he made the case. he did focus on the taliban's agreement to allow americans and others safe passage out of the
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country. they gave safe harbor to al qaeda and tell barbara starr the u.s. military negotiated a secret agreement with the taliban and as part of that the taliban actually escorted groups of americans to the kabul airport and let them get out of afghanistan, which, on it's face on the ground involved great trust, despite the pains biden and blinken are making again and again to say this relationship has no trust in it whatsoever. you've been there and seen it. can the taliban leadership actually control its members? >> hoping they can. they don't want to be a paraya state. they learned from the lessons of the past. they want enteratinternational want funding and support but the problem becomes as you mentioned that there is often in many of these types of organizations a disparity between what you hear
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from the leadership at the top and what you see from the foot soldiers on the ground. to give you an example, just a few days ago in a village north of kabul, we saw one of afgha afghanistan's famous folk singers taken from his house and shot dead by taliban fighters because music is now forbidden and the taliban has said they're going to investigate this and that this was wrong and that they will punish the fighters if they find them, but it speaks to this broader concern so many afghans have of how do you go about keeping all your forces under that very strict chain of command when sometimes they're being infiltrated by other groups like isis-k and you don't even though that. you can't see that. that's actually from the taliban source saying that to cnn. in some cases these militants are melting into the taliban's ranks. it makes it difficult to have a strict accounting of what taliban rank and file are doing
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on the ground versus the words that we're hearing from their leadership. >> your context of terrorists melting into the taliban is really important for this next question because seth today, president biden talked about why he got out of afghanistan, right? he made his case. he said there is no vital interest in america being there now because the united states already succeeded in doing what it set out to do. here he is. >> the fundamental obligation of a president in my opinion is to defend and protect america. not against threats of 2001 but against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow. that is the guiding principle behind my decisions about afghanistan. >> so he's saying the threats of 2021 and tomorrow are very different than 2001. that's the case he's making.
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seth, is it true? >> well, the threats today are certainly different from what they were in 2001, erin. i would say the challenge that the president has now is looking for his own intelligence community assesses afghanistan is with the taliban government that has strategic level, down to tactical level relations with al qaeda and afghanistan is on a trajectory to once again become a safe haven for terrorist organizations and, you know, it's really hard to put as fine a point as we just saw with the isis-k attack against u.s. forces. isis is still active. there are a number of anti indian groups active in afghanistan and obviously, we have al qaeda, which is very active in the country and active in the taliban's takeover embedded in taliban units. and just one last comment on the challenge here is i think it
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very important for americans to understand the war is not over that we've seen retributions and killings even over the last 24 hours and those are likely to continue. so the war will go on. america's role will just decline. >> so david, republicans, some of them are calling for biden to resign or be impeached. kevin mcelccarthy has been aske about this a lot and dodging these questions. here is what he said instead. >> i believe right now we should get every american home. i believe there should be accountability for what i see as probably the biggest failure in american government on a military stage in my lifetime. we can never make this hmistake again. >> david, biden promised to get all americans out who wanted to -- >> sorry. kevin mccarthy is not a serious person. he's not a serious person. i've known him. i've covered him. that is not a serious comment to make about the most serious
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military mistake that's been made by administration even in the past 20 years, just stop. stop. and be a serious grownup leader. that's not what you're being. the stububstantive point is getg americans out. the president said they will keep trying to do it. the bigger question is seth's more important point than kevin mccarthy's and serious point is the war goes on, what brings america back in? president biden may want to quit afgha afghanistan. afghanistan may not want to quit on us. the war on terror doesn't want to quit the united states. but there is a chilling if he can and kevin mccarthy is not in touch with this. 20 years of 9/11, what is america prepared to die for? i don't know the answer to that question. we've been fighting and dying in iraq and afghanistan for 20 years and we didn't win those wars. at best, it was a draw or we lost them and the war on terror continues, the enterprise was to
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prevent a terror state from taking hold in that part of the world. that's the concern going forward does afghanistan become that again? >> and collarisa what's your see on the ground? d does afghanistan quiunited stat or does the united states have to go in again? >> i think the taliban very much wants to avoid the united states coming back in and that's how this whole deal was basically struck. the americans really wanted to leave. the taliban really wanted the americans to leave and the one thing they could both agree on is if the taliban is able to prevent afghanistan from once again becoming a safe haven for terrorist, that deal will be honored. but the reality on the ground is a lot more ambiguous because while the taliban's sweep to power is stunning and shocking by any measure and while they do
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have a lot more control on the ground, certainly then the afghan army had when it was in control, there are still huge questions about how they can sustain that control when they are also in the business of governance. it is a lot easier to be an insurgency than to be govr erni a country. david petraeus said we have to be right every time. they just have to be right once. that's what the taliban is up against and it remains to be seen whether they can provided a quit security and prevent this country from becoming a safe haven again. >> clarisa, seth and david, thank you very much. next, the tens of thousands of afghan refugees that could soon make their way to american soil. is the united states even remotely prepared for what could be up to 50,000 people about to come? plus, the death toll rising after hurricane ida as rescue crews are working around the clock to help those stranded with no food, no water and no
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crowded conditions at the air base in germany. we'll show you pictures. there is 14,000 refugees waiting for the next flight. these are u.s. air bases. this happens to be in germany. pretty incredible. comes as president biden praises collision efforts because the evacuation was 123,000 civilians that are now scattered at these types of bases that came out of afghanistan. >> we completed one of the biggest airlifts in history with more than 120,000 people evacuated to safety. that number is more than double what most experts felt were possible. no nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all of history. only the united states had the capacity and the will and ability to do it. >> he's right. it is a record, right? it's an incredible thing. but now the question is what now?
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all these people on air bases with nowhere to go. "outfront" now will hurd what is an undercover cia agent in afghanistan and pakistan and i appreciate your time. congressman, so just taking the air base and the chairman of the house armed services committee adam smith last night told me specifically about dohar there is a struggle to supply the refugees there. obviously. there wasn't preparation for this sort of a thing to occur on this point of it. what happens now? >> sure. well, the disaster continues, and, you know, yes, a lot of people were evacuated out of afghanistan but the biden administration still left people behind and now we're trying to
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sort through the folks at these various bases not just at u.s. air bases. this are many that will be transported to other countries, other countries welcomed them in to sort through and make sure they have all the right paperwork to go on ward to their final destination. a lot of these are folks that were helping us because of great tremendous risk to themselves and their family and they're high skilled. i know there is a number of businesses and organizations that are looking to try to get them to be placed in jobs but now we go to make sure we can house and feed them. >> the quite says they have the capacity for 21,000 refugees. the number evacuated was 123,000. the u.s. is trying to double the number they have space for to 50,000 just at u.s. bases but on the continental united states over the next couple weeks.
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again, there is a big difference between 50 and 125ish. right? so is the united states going to be ready to do this? are these bases going to be ready to do this? this is not a small undertaking. >> it is not a small undertaking and right now the bases aren't equipped for this. they're not equipped. that's not a criticism on the individual at the base, it's that the leaders that were working on this didn't prepare them. they didn't think through many of these issues. they had to slip out of afghanistan and escape afghanistan sooner than they expected and so right now, there is also a lot of frustration with the administration because they bungled the operations in afghanistan and this is continuing to happen and so there is frustration for the folks that are in those situations. there is frustration about the people that are dealing with this. it's something that we're seeing similar that border patrols have to go through on our southern board
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borders, as well. this is something that's becoming a hallmark of this administration. these are people that helped us and we should be doing everything we can to make sure that we take care of them because they took care of our brothers and sisters and spouses while we were fighting the global war on terrorism. by the way, the global war on terrorism isn't over. >> no, and it -- so you raised the point, right, many of these people of usuallyy obviously he indeed and that's the least america can do. there is this concern when you get 123,000 people, the biggest ever out of a country in ten days, who did you really get out? chad wolf, the former acting secretary raised an issue. here it is. >> when you have this amount of individuals you have to screen and vet in a matter of days, they're going to be corners that will be cut, the most concerning thing is if those applications,
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these applications are not finished and we know they're not going to be finished in time, you could have dangerous individuals at these military instillations leaving these military instillations in some cases and we find they don't pass the screening and vetting at the end of the day. >> congressman, do you think those concerns are fair? >> it's always a concern to make sure the people coming in -- we need to know who is coming in. that's a hallmark making sure you're protecting your country. i don't know the specific examples that the previous speaker was talking about but in most of these cases, a lot of these folks had sponsors or people that individuals, americans here now said this person is -- had helped us and confirmed their identity. when you look at the number of -- the members of congress that are getting calls from constituents that have some connection to many of these individuals, this is something that we're going to be going through this process and i trust the folks on the ground to make
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tonight, more than a million people in louisiana, a million, still without power after hurricane ida. officials warning electricity in some areas may not be restored for a month. there are also long gas lines across the state with a significant number of gas stations reporting they're out of fuel or electricity needed to pump it. all of this adding to the wide spread devastation with some parts of the state still completely under water.
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ed laughvandera is "outfront". >> reporter: she's lived through many storms before but this was different. >> you can still just hear everything ripping and flying and banging and people's roofs were coming off and we just -- we prayed that we would all live. >> reporter: the emotions of experiencing hurricane ida's furry have caught up to the 32-year-old mother. >> the most scariest thing we ever did, it really was. we were there for so long not knowing how high the water would get. i don't think i'll ever stay again. >> reporter: the day after hurricane ida ripped through southeast louisiana officials are warning ris esidents it wil take considerable time to get life back to normal. there are more than a million customers without electricity and could take weeks to get the power restored. water systems are down, as well and cell phone communication is
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spotty. the coming days and weeks will be long and hot. >> we are resilient group of people. this is going to be very difficult. worst disaster that we've all seen in st. john parish. and it's going to take a long time. >> reporter: residents say they were stunned by the intensity of the storm's winds and the structural damage it caused. >> it was horrible. it was -- the wind, i never had wind shake the house the way it did. >> reporter: debbie and ronnie say after 4 feet of water poured into their home, the roof started to collapse. >> the ceiling started caving in and i got scared. it was like my god, is the roof going to blow off and we'll be out exposed? >> reporter: some of the hardest hit areas of southeast louisiana are still nearly impossible to reach. this is what grand aisle look i like. this was captured by several dozen people that didn't
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evacuate and stuck on the island. >> seeping in from all the doors, all the close sets. >> reporter: dominique thomas is bracing for weeks of recovery but can't stop thinking about the eight brutal hours her family endured through the storm. >> the doors were rocking back and forth. the windows were shaking. it was just a matter of time before you felt like everything would go right off. >> that was ed lauvandera reporting. now she joins me by phone, president of st. john the baptist parish was the hardest hit area in the state and where he is right now. thanks so much for being with me. we heard you calling this the worst disaster that you've ever seen in your community. tell me about what you're seeing, the devastation on the ground. >> thank you, erin. thank you so much for having me. and not only were those my words but, you know, our president and the governor have both called
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this one of america's great disasters. the devastation is hard to put into words. went up several hours ago in a helicopter to do additional damage assessments to get a real picture of what the extent of the damage is and it's catastrophic. our entire community, the entire parish is without water. the entire parish right now is without electricity and we had extensive damage to all of our infrastructure. so the recovery is going to take much longer because of the extensive damage to our infrastructure. >> you talk about this, it's stunning to think about it. i know that your governor said about 80% of the rescues thus far in the state happened in your parish nearly 800 people have been rescued. when you talk about areas that are just impassable, jackelyn, do you know how many more people are need in of rescue and how
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many are in dire need of help of some sort? >> we're continuing to receive calls in the 911 center that maybe more of wellness checks but the calls for actual rescues have died down. we did have the national guard performing checks in some of the neighborhoods. we had our fire department and sheriff's office going through the neighborhoods. you know, with intercoms and just checking on people. not just wellness checks but just doing an assessment of who is all still in their homes, so at this point, we are blessed that we have not had a single storm related fatality in this entire event so far and that's just only by the grace of god, i can say. but those calls for actual rescues have come down but we are still making sure that we do our best to keep our residents safe. it's a very uncomfortable situation because there is no electricity. there is no water, and then
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also, we still have many trees down where many of the roads are impassable so some people who have evacuated, can't get in to check on their own homes. it's devastating. >> catastrophic but it is -- as you say, miraculous you don't have more people in dire need and more death. thank god for that. thank you so much, jackelyn. appreciate your taking the time and showing this so people understand what is happening. >> thank you. next, the top two vaccine officials abruptly resign as there is frustration over the white house decision to announce booster shots this fall. >> plus a congressman that's tied himself to trump's big lie leveling this warning about future elections. >> it's going to lead to one place and it's bloodshed.
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during an emergency. tonight, the acting head of the fda admitting these are quote difficult times. two top vaccine officials abruptly designed and there is frustration inside the agency about the white house announcing
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there will be covid booster shots this fall before fda approval. the coordinator defending the move to recommend booster shots for all adults in the face of this reporting. >> this is pending fda conducting an independent evaluation and cdc's panel of outside experts issuing a booster dose recommendation. >> dr. jonathan reiner is "outfront". you've seen this from all sides. dr. reiner, you get these abrupt resignations at the fda and by the way, the context here is really important. the fda has no confirmed leaders. you don't have anyone formally confirmed and charged. officials are frustrated the way the white house announced boosters would be available for all adults next month. how much does all of this matter? could it hurt trust in the rack s -- vaccine process itself when you see the end fighting? >> it matters a lot, erin.
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l let's look what happened. the director and deputy director of the fda center task with approving buy logics including vaccines, when they resign on the same day during a pandemic at a time the fda is endeavoring to approve not just booster shots but also vaccines for children under the age of 12, it speaks to great dysfunction within the fda. what is supposed to happen is the fda is supposed to license or approve a vaccine and then the cdc, their committee meets to bay sebasically say how the vaccines will be used. that's for immune compromised people. five days later in a statement before the fda approved the vaccine for other people, the cdc director and acting director of the fda issued a joint
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statement saying come september 20th, they would open boosters to the public and that apparently has really rattled or angered the leadership of the fda center tasked with approving vaccines. >> i mean, it is all really concerning and it comes as you point out during a pandemic. >> right. >> i emphasize the during because you got 100,000 people now according to the models expected to die in the next four months. the biden administration is monitoring oxygen supplies because sources tell cnn hospitals are seeing oxygen shortages. they don't have enough oxygen. they have liquid oxygen issues. they are saying they could run out imminently in some cases. this is stunning to see this happen in the united states of america at this point in the pandemic. >> remember in the spring when things were getting better in the united states and things were bad in india, what was happening in india is the hospitals all over that massive country were running out of oxygen and, you know, people in the united states sort of pitied
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them and how could that happen in a modern country? but yet, that's what is happening in the united states. warren buffet said only when the tide goes out can you tell who is swimming naked and the tide went out 18 months ago in this country when the pandemic hit and we learned large parts of the medical infrastructure in this country are broken and we need to rebuiltd it. we've run out of masks. we've run out of gowns. you seen pictures of nurses wearing trash bags to protect themselves. we need to fix this. >> yeah. very sobering. thank you very much dr. reiner. >> my pleasure. next, another sobering and frightening story. a repub lican congressman warnig of bloodshed and a governor that could replace ce governor newsof
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tonight, warning of bloodshed, claiming the united states elections are rigged. he is not alone in making false and dangerous claims. >> reporter: pushing false claims about election fraud in the 2020 election. >> if our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, it's going to lead to one place, bloodshed. >> reporter: warning there could be violence over future elections. >> as much as i am willing to defend our liberty at all costs, there's nothing that i would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow american. >> reporter: the congressman made the comments sunday at a gop event. >> when are you calling us to
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washington again? >> i don't have an answer to that. we are working on this. we have a few plans in motion i can't make public. >> reporter: the county gop has deleted foot anage of his appearance. he is clearly advocating for violence not to occur over election integrity questions. he fears others would choose that route and strongly states that election integrity issues should be resolved peacefully and never through violence. there's no evidence of mass voter fraud, something he admitted on cnn after the violence at the u.s. capitol. >> i would say the election was not fraudulent. the constitution allowed for us to push back. joseph biden is our president. >> reporter: supporters have revived the narrative that the election was stolen and justifying potential violence. >> i will be objecting to a
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stolen election. >> reporter: marjorie taylor greene, who in the past has indicated support for executing prominent democrats like in this comment on social media that said, a bullet to the head would be quicker to rehmove house speaker nancy pelosi. >> i objected to the certification. >> reporter: defending his part in attempting to overturn the 2020 election results. >> i said, we ought to have a debate about election integrity. i said, it is the right of the people to be heard. my constituents in missouri want to be heard on this issue. >> reporter: as well as former president trump accused of inciting the insurrection. >> all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by a bold and radical left. if you don't fight like hell, you are not going to have a country.
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>> reporter: in that speech sunday, the congressman also says he is trying to support and get help for the rioters who stormed the capitol on january 6. people he calls political hostages. despite many of them being charged with felonies. >> thank you very much. cnn sits down with the man who is the biggest threat to the california governor gavin newsom. wait until you see this. thank you. that was fast! one call to usaa got her a tow, her claim paid... ...and even her grandpa's dog tags back. get a quote. this is t-mobile, america's leading 5g network. this is apple tv+.
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tonight, the man who may be the biggest threat to the california governor, larry elder. the gop frontrunner in the recall election is now -- it's two weeks away and it's growing fears among democrats that newsom's days may be numbered. joe johns is out front. >> reporter: this is the man who could set off a political earthquake in california. larry elder, a 69-year-old conservative talk show host turned political candidate has become the republican frontrunner in the race to recall california's governor. >> my agenda is crime, homelessness, the way the state was shut down. >> reporter: that includes rolling back the state's covid restrictions, vowing to repeal mask and vaccine mandates for california state workers.
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will you follow the science? >> i will follow the science. i don't believe the science suggests that young people should be vaccinated. i don't believe the science suggests young people should have to wear masks at school. i'm not sure the science settled on that. young people are not likely to contract the coronavirus. their symptoms are likely mild when they do. not likely to be hospitalized. >> reporter: the science says he is wrong on several counts. millions of children have tested positive for covid-19. they are being hospitalized. and masks are proven to prevent the spread of the virus. a california native, elder was raised in south central los angeles, made his way to brown university and received a law degree from michigan. for 27 years, he was the voice of conservative rage on the radio. >> blacks exaggerate the significance of racism. affirmative action is wrong. >> reporter: some of his most controversial comments over the years were about systemic racism
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in policing. >> studies do not show the police are pulling black people over because they are black. it does not show police are killing black people because they are black. if i had known there were so many people, i would have prepared something to say. >> reporter: many of his views are extreme. at least on two policies elder tells me he would not try to implement them if elected governor. >> am i opposed to the minimum wage? am i going to do anything about it? that's not close to anything on my list. >> reporter: elder suggests in a 2010 column a constitutional amendment to deny citizenship to children of undocumented immigrants. a politically exclusive position in a state rich with immigrants. are you going to do things like deny medical care and education to undocumented immigrants in the state? >> again, not even close to anything on my agenda. >> reporter: as elder's political star rises, his decades of comments on race and
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women, mocking sexual assault and saying women know less than men about politics are drawing fresh scrutiny. >> i felt minorities and women complain too much about racism and sexism. >> reporter: he tweeted women have no right to maternity leave in addition to other sexist comments. >> i have a great deal of respect for women. my mom was a woman. i had her on my show every friday. only you bring up these issues. when i'm on the campaign trail and i meet a lot of women, nobody says, larry, i'm concerned about what you are going to do about women. just you guys. >> reporter: i asked larry elder whether he wants the endorsement of former president donald trump. he said, he is indifferent and has not asked for it. a source with trump told me no decision has been made about whether to support elder. >> fascinating to watch that. the history and this whole scenario. joe johns with that interview
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with larry elder joining me live from los angeles tonight. thank you, joe. thanks very much to all of you for joining us. watch "out front" or anything on cnn go. "ac 360" starts now. president biden tried to defend how he ended afghanistan, when he did and how it unfolded. the other headline could be longer reaching with greater impact on how this country maintains its presence in the world and what cost in dollars and lives of american service members. the president's commitment to avoid fighting another war like the one he just ended. we will talk about both tonight. new polling showed americans by a 12-point margin approved of the decision to withdraw. however, as the president's overall handling the situation,