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who are 65 years or older, adults 18 and over with certain underlying health conditions like diabetes and obesity and those who are at increased risk of covid-19 because where they work or where they live, like health care workers, teachers, grocery store workers. that's over -- that group makes up 16 million americans who are now eligible for a booster within six months after their second shot. and up to 20 million will receive their earlier pfizer shot at least six months ago are eligible today. so those folks are eligible now, now. and i've made clear all along the decision of which booster shot to give, when to start the shot, and who will get them is left to the scientists and the doctors.
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that's what happened here. now, while we waited and prepared, we bought enough booster shots in states and pharmacies, doctors' offices and community health centers have been preparing to get booster shots in arms for a while. and like your first and second shot, the booster shot is free and easily accessible. booster shots will be available in 80,000 locations, including over 40,000 pharmacies nationwide. so my message today is this -- if you've got the pfizer vaccine, the pfizer vaccine in january, february, march of this year and you're over 65 years of age, to get the booster. or if you have a medical condition like diabetes or you're a frontline worker like a health care wroshger or a teacher, you can get a free booster now. i'll be getting my booster shot
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-- it's hard to acknowledge i'm over 65, but i'll be getting my booster shot. it's a bear, isn't it? i tell you. anyway, all kidding aside, i'll be getting my booster shot. i'm not sure exactly when i'm going to do it. as soon as i can. of course millions of americans got the moderna and johnson & johnson vaccines. my message for you is this -- you still have a high degree of protection. our doctors and scientists are working day and night to analyze the data from those two organizations on whether and when you need a booster shot. and we'll provide updates for you as the process moves ahead. again, the bottom line is if you're fully vaccinated you're highly protected from severe illness even if you get covid-19. in fact, recent data indicates there's only one confirmed positive case per 5,000 fully vaccinated americans per day.
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you're as safe as possible. you're in good shape. and we're doing everything we can to keep it that way, which is where the booster comes in. so let me be clear, yes, we made incredible progress in vaccinating americans with over 182 million people being fully vaccinated as of today. but this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and it's caused by the fact that despite americans having an unprecedented and successful vaccination program, despite the fact that for almost five months free vaccines have been available in 0880,000 vaccinations, we have over 70 million americans who have failed to get a single shot. to make matters worse, there are elected officials actively working to undermine with false information the fight against covid-19. this is totally unacceptable. the vast majority of americans
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are doing the right thing. three quarters of the eligible have gotten at least one shot. one quarter has not gotten any. in a country as large as ours, that's 25% minority can cause an awful lot of damage and they are causing a lot of damage. the unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals, overrunning emergency rooms and intensive care units, leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or a cancer operation needed to get the lifesaving care because the places where they would get that care are crowded. they are not available. the unvaccinated also put our economy recovery at risk, causing unease in the economy around -- causing unease around the kitchen table. i can imagine what's going on in the conversations this morning, a lot of parents wondering what's going to happen. those who have been vaccinated, what's going to happen.
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potentially slowing economic growth, costing jobs. the refusal has cost all of us, refusal to get vaccinated has cost all of us. i'm moving forward with vaccination requirements wherever i can. these will cover two-thirds of workers in america, and i'm pleased to see more organizations and businesses instituting their own vaccination requirements. i have businesses whoch called me to thank me for setting the policies to allow them to do the same thing. they're able to do it anyway, but it gives them the ability to move forward. we're making progress. for example, united airlines, which required vaccines about seven weeks ago now has 97% of their employees vaccinated. just four weeks ago, the department of defense required vaccinationings for the militar. already 92% of active duty service members are vaccinated. we're on track to administer 24 million shots in arms in
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september. so please, do the right thing. do the right thing. i understand there's a lot of misinformation you've f feld out there. get to people you trust, the people who have been vaccinated. ask them. ask them. so get vaccinated. don't just take it from me. listen to the voices of the unvaccinated americans who are lying in hospital beds taking their final breaths saying and literally we've seen this on television, if only i'd gotten vaccinated. if only. if only. leaving behind husbands and wives, small children, people who adore them. people are dying and will die and don't have to die. it is not hyperbole to suggest it's literally a tragedy. please don't let this become your tragedy. get vaccinated. it can save your life and the
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lives of those around you. you know, text your zip code to 438829. 438829. or visit to find a vaccination location near you, now. let me close with this. we also made so much progress during the past eight months in this pandemic, and now we face a critical moment. we have the tools, we have the plan, we just have to finish the job together as one nation. and i know we can. i know we can. god bless you all, and please, look out for your own self-interest and health. get vaccinated. may god protect your troops. thank you. >> abc. rachel scott. >> you said on the campaign trail you would restore the moral standing of the u.s., that you were going to immediately end trump's assault on the
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dignity of immigrant communities. given what we saw at the border this week, have you failed on that promise? do you take responsibility? >> of course i take responsibility. i'm president. it was horrible to see people treated like they did, horses and people being strapped. it's outrageous. i promise you, those people will pay. they will be -- an investigation under way now and there will be consequences. there will be consequences. it's an embarrassment, beyond an embarrassment. it's dangerous. it's wrong. it sends the wrong message around the world, sends the wrong message at home. it's simply not who we are. thank you. peter alexander. >> mr. president, thank you. you came into office on a message of competence and unity. we've witnessed what's happened in the country in the last several months, seen the chaotic
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troop withdrawal from afghanistan, the threat of a government shutdown right now, and democrats, members of your own party, are still divided over your agenda going forward. what do you say to americans who say you have not delivered on that promise? >> remember i said it's going to take a year to deliver everything i'm looking at here. that's number one. number two, take a look at what i inherited when i came into office, when i came into office, the state of affairs and where we were. we had 4 million people vaccinated, we had no plan. i mean, i can go down the list. so, you know, part of it is dealing with the panoply of things that have landed on my plate. i'm not complaining. it's just a reality, number one. number two, i think part of what has to happen here as well, for example, let's talk about my economic plan. the economic plan you all are always -- and understandably, legitimately, citing polls. every element of my economic plan is overwhelmingly popular.
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overwhelmingly popular. but the problem is with everything happening, not everybody knows what's in that plan. for example, all those women out there who are not able to go back to work because they have a dependent grandparent or parent or they have a dependent child who needs help or they can't find daycare or they can't find -- i mean, look another what's happening. well, there's a solution. there's a solution in the proposal that i put forward and the plans we're now debate among ourselves in congress, yes, this is the plan that i laid out in the beginning. and so i'm confident that at the end of the day, we're going to be able to get that done. the second point i'd like to make, we talk about price tags. it is zero price tag. we're going to pay for
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everything we spend. it's not -- you know, people understandably, well, you know, i started off at $6 trillion, now it's $3.5 trillion, is it going to be $2.9 million? it's going to be zero. zero, because in that plan that i put forward, and i said from the outset, i said i'm running to change the dynamic of how the economy grows. i'm tired of trickle-down. trillion nares and billionaires are doing very, very well. you all report it. and in the middle of this crisis, the hardworking people, middle class people are getting hurt. so i provide for, for example, a tax cut if you have a child. you get a refundable tax credit. it's reduced hunger in america by 40% literally for children. you have the whole notion of being able to provide for daycare for your children, getting people back to school, et cetera. it's all paid for.
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it's all paid for. but a lot of these are flat tax c cuts that exist within my proposal. and they're being calculated as if the cost of the child care tax credit is a cost to the government. it's not. it's reducing taxes, reducing taxes, not increasing taxes. now, part of the problem is i had hoped -- i hadn't planned on although i kind of anticipated might happen -- i hadn't planned on the 178-mile-an-hour winds from the hurricane going into louisiana and 20 inches of rain in new york and new jersey and areas as big as the state of new jersey burning down in the west. so what i hoped i would be doing, what i did in the campaign, making the case about what my plan contained. and it's been very much curtailed by a whole range of things. and so i think that it's
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understandable, i think it's understandable, people being frustrated. i think they're frustrated as well by the fact that not just members of congress, democrats and republicans, frustrated by, you know, i thought this was going to be better. i thought everything was working out. we were moving along on covid-19. and now we have all these people refusing to get a shot. and now look at the people dying. large numbers of people dying. so i guess i think it's -- obviously it's a legitimate question you ask, but i think putting it into context here, it's going to take some time here. and i know i always kid you when you all ask me about, well, are you going to get a, b, c done? i say you want to negotiate. i'm being a bit facetious, obviously, but here's the deal. this is going to end up, i
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believe, we're going to end up getting both pieces of my economic legislation, the first piece, the $1.9 trillion, fundamentally change the structure and the nature of the economy in this country, even though remember it got clobbered, oh, this terrible thing, no republican voted for, well, we got real economic growth. now we're at a stalemate at the moment and we're going to have to get these two pieces of legislation passed. both need to be passed. and they'll have a profound impact according to not just joe biden but according to wall street, to the imf, according to international organizations. and so -- and then there's, you know, i'm going to be having a meeting today with the quad, with the leaders of -- the leader of india, japan, and australia, and we're going to be talking about afghanistan, which is a legitimate thing for us to
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talk about. but the truth of the matter at the end of the day we were spending $300 million a day for 20 years. there was no easy way to end that, and we're now still getting people out, but it's really -- there's no picture book way to say, okay, the war has ended, let's get everybody out. no war has ever ended that way other than there's been surrender and totally different circumstance. so anyway, there's a lot i'm sure along the line that there are things i could have done better, but i make no apologies for my proposals, how i'm proceeding, and why i think by the end of the year we're going to be in a very different place. >> follow-up on covid if i can. >> sure. >> what do you say to americans who disregard the new cdc guidance and get a booster shot anyway? >> well, i'm not sure how they get it, but -- >> -- just have gone without any
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high-risk situation or underneath that age limit. it happens around the country as we speak. >> well, i think what's going to happen is you're going to see in the near term, probably going to open this up anyway. constantly looking at both moderna and j&j and as i said in the speech, in addition to that, we're also looking to the time when we're going to be able to expand the booster shots basically across the board. it's better to wait your turn and to get there. ken. >> thank you, mr. president. when you met with congressional leaders this week, you told them to try to find a number less than $3.5 trillion on the reconciliation package that they could live with. what is that top-line number in your mind as you deliberate these conversations? and separately, you mentioned
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how you're going to pay for some of these provisions. one senator has a proposal on annualized taxes on billionaires, unrealized gains. is that a proposal you support? >> yes, i do. look, i support a lot of these proposals. i do support that. look, if you get a -- if you file a w-2 form, you know, the irs has access to your bank account. and your bank tells you how much now v you made, what you have in there, you know, and estimates your tax. well, if you have no income, you're just -- it's all -- if you have no earned income and it's all investment income, it's hard to figure out what the hell -- excuse me, what the heck you have. and that's why we have to -- and i know some people don't like this, that's why we have to rehire some irs agents, and not to do anything -- not to try to
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make people pay something they don't owe, just say hey, step up and pay like everybody else does. look, i really mean this. my whole career, and i come from the corporate state of america, i just think it's about just paying your fair share. we can argue whether or not the corporate tax should go up to 26.5% or 28% or 24%, but the idea that 50 major corporations in america making a sum total of $40 billion pays zero? come on. come on. it's just wrong. it's just not fair. now, i think it's beginning to, you know, sink through the either a little bit here, i think there clearly is enough from a panoply of options to pay for whatever it is that folks decide to pay for. let me finish by answering part
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of your question, if i may. the way i look at it is, what i've been telling my colleagues, and it surprises them sometimes in those rooms, and i don't know whether you heard, but both meetings went very well. i mean, it was -- they were collegial. no one's hollering. everybody's, you know -- and people are hanging out afterwards in the oval -- and anyway, both the progressives as well as the moderates. and one of the things that i think is important for -- and i'm trying to get people to focus on -- is what is it like? what do you think -- forget a number. what do you think we should be doing? is it appropriate in your view to cut taxes for working-class
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people by providing for daycare, providing for early education, 3 and 4 years old, is it appropriate to do something about free community college, or do you want to -- what are your priorities? and several of them, when they go through their priorities, it adds up to a number higher than they said they were for, because i think this is -- we're getting down to the, you know, the hard spot here. people are having now to go in and look in detail as to what it is specifically they're for. it's little bit like what we went through -- and i'll end with this -- a little like when we went through the issue of the bipartisan deal on infrastructure. there are a lot of negotiations on this. and it wasn't until people were forced to look at what are you for? are you for taking care of that
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highway or bridge in your state or that region, your region? are you for doing something about environmental degradation? are you for something that deals with allowing us to provide for moneys to states so that they can, in fact, deal with things like what happened in state where is the major utility lines come down? what to you do to build those back better, to prevent that from happening? and there's -- you all speak to all these folks, so you speak to as many as i do -- i find that they're going, hmm, i never really thought that through before. i think it makes sense. and that's how we finally got to a bipartisan deal on what is a serious infrastructure proposal that really does a number of things, including, including things where people said i don't want to do anything with the environment and they start
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thinking, wait a minute, i have all these diesel buses at home. it would be a hell of a lot better if we had electric buses and change the circumstance and boom, boom, boom. so i think this is a process. that's why i said at the front end, although we got off to a very fast start with the first piece of legislation, i don't expect this to be done and us be in a position where we can look back and say, okay, did we get it done until basically the end of the year. i don't mean the vote on the two pieces of legislation related to the economy. i think it's just going to take some time. look, you know, my guess is we all come from similar backgrounds. remember you used to sit around the kitchen table in the morning if you had the chance to do that or dinner at night with your mom and dad and brothers and sisters? what did people talk about? they talked about, you know, are we going to be able to pay the mortgage? at least my house. i mean, what's going to happen
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if we have another one of those floods and, you know, it blows through here like it did in queens? what's going to happen? what are we going to do? by the way, you know, i'm just not sure that i want, you know, my son or daughter to going into school when so many people are not vaccinated. i mean, you know, i'm not sure i want kenny to be there and doing this. but practical things people are talking about. and they're looking down the road and looking at cost of living issues as well. so what's the cost of living issues? well, it's because we're in a position where the ability to have the product, the elements of the production of a product that, in fact, need to go into the production of that product are hard to get a hold of because people are in trouble.
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they're not able to produce them. they're not able to get them. it's like, you know, -- and we're making progress but what we're doing with regard to making sure we have the computer chips to be able to keep in the vernacular, to keep -- you know, build automobiles. i think everybody was kind of surprised when -- i think if i had said to you -- i may be dead wrong, but if i had said to you in, say, april that i was going to get all three major manufacturers of american automobiles saying they're going to go electric, i doubt you thought that could be done. well, we're out here in the back lawn. they've all of a sudden figured it out. they've had a bit of an epiphany and realized, oh, wait a minute, china is investing billions of dollars, china is doing battery technology, blah, blah, blah,
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and this is going to happen anyway. again, i'll just conclude by saying this is a process and it's going to be up and down. that's why i don't look at the polls. not a joke. because it's going to go up and it's going to go down, it's going to go up, and hopefully at the end of the day i'll be able to deliver on what i said i would do, one, bringing the country together on a few important things like on infrastructure, getting us in a position where we can have some coherent policy relative to foreign policy agreement, put us in a position where we're able to actually generate the kind of change in the dynamic of how we grow the economy, not eliminate the super wealthy, not at all, but allow the working class and
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the middle class to be able to build out and up. and that can be done. like i said, every time i hear -- and i drive my staff crazy -- every time i hear this is going to cost a, b, c, or d, the truth is based on the commitment that i made it's going to cost nothing because we're going to raise the revenue, raise the revenue to pay for the things we're talking about. and we're going to -- and right now, if you take a look at the reconciliation piece, a trillion dollars of that is tax cuts, not raise anybody taxes, it's tax cuts. people will be paying less t taxes. but the people who pay less taxes will be working-class folks, people in situation where is they have -- i know you're tired of hear megasay it, but my dad's constant refrain, just give people a little breathing room, a little breathing room. thank you, guys.
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>> president biden speaking at the white house, expressing optimism about the passage of both the bipartisan infrastructure bill, also the democratic budget. it's process and they'll come to agreement. he is taking responsibilities for the scenes at the southern border. >> yep. >> but the big focus was talking about plans for booster shots for by his account some 60 million americans now eligible. >> let's bring in chief medical correspondent dr. gup gum. john harwood is at the white house. sanjay, as we look at this, one of the thing igs found interesting, so he's talking about now the fact that so many americans who are six months past their second dose of pfizer, right, that's the big catch yacht here, but those over 65, those with underlying conditions, and because of what we saw from dr. rochelle walensky, the cdc saying also
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those who are essentially frontline workers, so in health care, grocery store workers, teachers. they're eligible for the booster if they're six months past the pfizer shot. how significant will this end up being, this many tens of millions of people are now eligible? >> it's a huge number when you look at it. i mean, he said 60 million people, but, you know, we could show you specifically now what, you know, both dr. walensky has formerly recommended as well as what the president has said in terms of who should get booster shots. they douch language a little bit and say who may get booster shots. they're eligible for it. if you add up those numbers, 65 people plus, long-term care facility resident, that's 54 million people right there. you add in the other three categories, you get close to 170 million people that fall into this. as you correctly pointed out, this is just pfizer so far, and six months ago, how many people had received pfizer shots by that point? well, 22 million people had.
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those are the people who are going to be most immediately formally eligible for a booster shot. it's going to leetch lot of people with a lot of questions. i got moderna, i'm over 65, what about me? you know, you heard the president get asked about that and he adviced people to sort of wait their turn on, that although we know a lot of people have been getting their boosters anyway, just going to their pharmacy and sort of getting a booster. two points worth making. one is you probably don't want to rush getting the booster earlier than six months. the data says wait at least that long in terms of how the immune system works to get the best bang out of that booster. six months is a good time to boost the immune system. so that's one thing to sort of keep in mind. the other thing is, you know, there is no formal process by which people will show up at their pharmacy and ask for a booster. they don't have to have a doctor's note or anything. this is sort of honor code,
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self-attestation as they phrase it. a lot of people concerned will start getting boosters. a lot of other pool may not because they may not have been watching right now or just don't know about what's going on with boosters. >> to the point as you noted on moderna and j&j vaccines, folk who is got them, the president says they're analyzing the data, therefore they will come to some sort of recommendation after they've done that. has the administration or the cdc ended up in the right place here? the original biden plan was to make this available to everyone, but now it's a targeted group. >> yeah. i think so. but it's a big group though, still. this is more than half the countryly that sort of falls into this group. the difficulty will be a lot of people hearing this message and 160 million people may say i fall into that group but only about 22 million will be eligible right now. so i think that's still going to
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cause a little bit of confusion. moderna has submitted their data. the fda hasn't looked at it. j&j hasn't submitted the data. it will be a little time coming for them. bottom line, though, the vaccines still work well, so i think to the extent this gives people a lot of concern, i'm not quite eligible for the booster yet, i really want one, keep in mind that the vast majority of the problem -- when i say vast majority, 95% of the problem with regard to covid right now in terms of severe illness is among people who haven't received one shot let alone a third shot. we can't emphasize that message enough. >> that statistic caught my ear there, that one infection per 5,000 fully vaccinated people per day. that's a very tiny, tiny percentage. >> and eve than infection is likely -- those are not the people, if they are fully vaccinated and you become infected, they are likely not ending up on a ventilator in the hospital and certainly not dying. the vaccine doing its job. john harwood, the president was
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also asked a couple other question, asked about the situation at the border. he says he takes full responsibility and he was asked about where things are, right, in terms of these negotiations. two things that stood out to me. he was asked for a top-line number, what is his top-line number. we did not get one is the short answer that was a long answer from the president. he also said my plan is overwhelmingly popular but not everyone knows what's in it. john, if we look at that, there's been a clear messaging issue, i would say here. if the president is at this the point he says it's overwhelmingly popular but not enough people know what's in it. it's a challenge because most americans don't follow the ins and outs of debates in congress. i thought this was fascinating, an attempt by president biden to reframe a picture emerging in recent weeks of a president floundering for control of his foreign policy, floundering to advance his domestic agenda and watching his poll numbers decline as a result. what he tried to do is project
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calm and confidence, acknowledge that they were thrown off course by some of the natural disasters, afghanistan, no pretty exit from a war, the setbacks that were unanticipated on covid because of vaccine resistance but trying to say that, yes, we are still on track to getting this significant transformative economic legislation done and make some of the arguments he's making to holdouts on the democratic side in the closing days. that is you mentioned, erica, the top-line number. he's trying to say that number is zero because i'm proposing to play for my entire plan. on net, it won't cost anything. that's tough sell, obviously, because there are big outlays and big tax increases to pay for them. and anytime you shake the deck that significantly, you're going to arouse some raens and we've seen certainly from the moderates in the democratic party, resistance to some of the tax hikes. he was trying to get back on top of the story, intense
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negotiations in next few days will tell whether that confidence is justified. but he was trying to change that story line today. >> certainly trying to change that and change the messaging that's out there, we'll pay for everything we spend. we'll see. >> we'll see what happens next week. dr. sanjay gupta, john harwood, thanks very much. still ahead, four of president trump's former closest aides have been subpoenaed to testify under oath about the january 6th on the capitol. what happens if they refuse? and the fbi getting an arrest warrant for brian laundrie. this is not related to gabby petito's death. the latest on that case next.
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the january 6th insurrection, they're targeting four of trump's aides. >> the committee is calling on mark meadows, dan scavino, and others to testify privately beginning next month. for more, we're joined by former deputy assistant attorney general elliott williams. as we look at this, you've been a part of these congressional investigations. these subpoenas, how does that play out? it's not a subpoena for an open hearing. >> right. and, look, this is a very aggressive move by congress.
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typically, erica, it is the practice of congress to attempt to negotiate with witnesses before they come in. they went straight to one because they thought they would be uncooperative witnesses and they did not want to waste time. i dealt with this a lot on both sides, and the goal is to move things along, get the information, and it seems that congress just thought get the subpoenas out, this is the fastest way to work its way through. >> the trump administration made a habit, frankly, of either fighting or ignoring or delaying congressional subpoenas. i mean, what happens here, i mean, how long can they fight before they're required to take the stand? >> at a minimum, right now, they are required to take the stand on october 14th and 15th, i believe,s this the date they are supposed to appear before congress. typically what witnesses do is negotiate over the terms of those appearances and those dates may slip a little bit. now, if they don't, congress has three options.
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can't be a shield for wrongdoing. you can't tell your lawyer you're going to commit a crime and say those are privileged communications. it's the same thing here. he can't have had conversations that teed up wrongdoing and then claim he's hiding behind a privilege. he can make the argument it's going to be really tricky because it's hard legally to separate the man from the candidate from the president, but that's what's going to happen in courts over the next couple weeks. >> we'll be watching. thank you. up next this hour, day six of the search in a florida nature preserve for gabby petito's fiance, brian laundrie. now the fbi is armed with an arrest warrant for him. details of exactly what is in that warrant coming up. why bother mastering something? why hand-tune an audio system?
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the fbi has issued a federal arrest warrant for brian laundrie, the fiance of gabby petito. that warrant is not connected to petito's death. it concerns his actions after she was killed. we're also learning new details about laundrie's actions before he vanished nearly two weeks ago. >> a suers telling cnn he left his parents' home last tuesday without his cell phone, without his wallet. his parents, according to that source, were also concerned he might hurt himself. all of this as authorities have reported no sign of laundrie. that search continues for him in the florida nature preserve,
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which his parents pointed authorities to. joining us charles ramsey. commissioner, always good to see you. as we look at this arrest warrant, so this is for the use of unauthorized devices and claims that laundrie's debit card and a pin number to two accounts that don't belong to him, charging at least a thousand dollars between, and these are interesting dates here, august 30th and september 1st. does this change anything in your eyes? does this signal something new to you in terms of this investigation? >> well, i mean, it does change things. in terms of the manhunt, i don't know how much it changes there other than ta fact they have an arrest warrant, he's now in the nci c, which means if his name is run anywhere, the warrant will show up. it will also have an impact on those around him if they know where he is or they're providing him with resources, harboring a fugitive. so in that regard, it does have
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an impact. they're doing everything they can to try to find him, so as far as the search itself goes, you know, that's just going to continue. but now it's expanded out nation wild. >> as you watch the search, to the untrained eye, look at the search and it's on again, off again, looking at this vast expanse of this nature preserve there, but typically, authorities know more than they're will thing on, right. what do you see and what goes into a search like this based on your experience? >> well, they're probably doing a great search. it's very difficult terrain. my understanding is it's a swampy-like area and so foerth, poisonous snake, alligators and the like. that's assuming that's where he's at. he may have told his parents that. could be a misdirection. he didn't take his cell phone. you can track the cell phone. didn't take his wallet. you can track credit cards. you don't want a driver's license with your name on it if
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you're wanted. he definitely wants to get lost. if he sent people in one direction, he could have gone another. if he's at that park, odds are he may longer er -- no longer alive. >> local authorities were saying the family was not being cooperative, brian laundrie not speaking, family wants to remain in the background. his parents were ultimately questioned. could they be brought in again? and if so, what do you think that would look like based on again what we can see publicly? >> they could take him before a grand jury. they've been questioned already. but if there's more that needs to come out if you want to lock them in in terms of their testimony, you put them before a grand jury. if they're found to be lying, they've got a major legal problem on their hands. so i don't know what direction they're going in. jim, you said something very important. investigators always know more than what's public. we just don't know what thaes. there's a reason why they went back to that preserve as opposed
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to, you know, going somewhere else. but they have access to some information we simply don't have. we don't even know if she was murdered at the location where the body was found or if she was murdered somewhere else and then dumped there. we just don't know. now they're trying to get evidence to tie him to the actual crime scene, wherever that is. >> a great point that now with this warrant anybody who might help him would be tornadaiding abetting. thank you. this time next week congress could be out of money if they don't come together on a spending bill. can they make a deal? will democrats have to go it al alone? for people who could use a lift new neutrogena® rapid firming. a triple-lift serum with pure collagen. 92% saw visibly firmer skin in just 4 weeks. neutrogena® for people with skin.
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folks are expected to vote against the legislation because it would approve a raising of the debt ceiling. joining me to talk about this, texas democratic congressman vicente gonzalez, a member of the foreign affairs committee and the problem solvers caucus and the financial services committee, obviously involved in these negotiations. thanks for taking the time this morning. i want to begin with the president's comments a short time ago expressing optimism that both the infrastructure deal and the larger budget will get passed, that this is a process, as he calls the negotiation. do you share that optimism? >> i do. i really do. i think we'll get both past the finish line and deliver for the american people on massive infrastructure that as you know everybody needs in this country. we have roads and bridges and airports and deteriorating drainage systems that the american people need and the reconciliation will bring a lot of great programs. for the first time we'll have
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senior citizens that will have vision and hearing and dental care and kids will be able to go to community college tuition free for a couple years. there's a lot of great things that are going to be transformative for america in this reconciliation and in this infrastructure bill. >> trouble is, though, that even within your own party, you have both house members, democratic house members, and senators who say the price tag is too big, i'm not going that high. if the price tag comes down, some of those things you just mentioned may have to come out, free community college. so do you see compromise coming? >> i see some compromise. i don't think it will be on the issues that i mentioned but i think on some things. we need to be careful that we don't punish any one industry, we don't punish texas energy or that anybody that -- anyone is targeted in an unfair way. we need to be careful with than p i'm optimistic we will get past this. >> i want to talk about the situation at the border. the number of migrants has been
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reduced dramatically at del rio because the biden administration, dhs, has been flying them out. flying them back to haiti, frankly, ten years after many of them fled that country. do you support that policy? as you know, the biden administration's own haiti special envoy resigned in protest calling the policy inhumane. >> i support the policy of removals on all nationalities. i think we should have a safe zone somewhere on the border of mexico and guatemala. this is what i've been proposing to our president and the past administration where we process asylum claims there and take the pressure off our southern border. what's happening on our southern boarder is unsustainable and needs to be addressed. i have no problem with removals. it can't target one nationality. we need to do it in a humane way and assure these people have an orderly process to ask for asylum in this country but rushing our boarder is not the answer. >> as you know, tremendous
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protest voiced including by democrats, the images we saw on border patrol agents on horseback, the president said a short time ago those agents will be investigated. when you look at the broader biden administration policy, tiltd l 42, came from the tratr trump administration, shipping thousands of haitians back to a country they haven't been in for ten years summarily. these are policies that, you know, had trump been president i imagine a lot of democrats would be protesting. do you look at this and say there's less daylight between what we saw under trump and this biden? >> no. i say we should be treating every nationality on our southern border the same. i do believe we need to start removing people from our border back to their own country in an orderly, humane way, but we need to have a process to ask for asylum from their home country or neighboring country, going to
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embassies and consulates around the world. the process cannot be walking 1,500 miles to our southern border and rushing the river into our communities. that just does not work. >> the trouble is many, many thousands of people are still choosing to do that every month, and the numbers -- they dipped slightly in the most recent month but they're still at record levels historically. the biden administration has tried a lot of different approaches but they don't seem to be working. is it failing? >> i think we could do a lot better. i think this system that i've been proposing about having a safe zone on the border of guatemala and mexico, where people can show up and ask for asylum and process their claim at that juncture, if they qualitily, they should be able to fly into the country, not make a dangerous 1,500 mile trek and create this immense pressure on america's southern border. we need to do this humanely and do it right. i have a proposal for the white
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house, same thing i talked to president trump when he was president, creating a process on the mexican/guatemalan border to process claims there. until we have an intelligent system in place, it will be chaos on our border. >> the president said he does not want his country to be a migrant camp. without mexico's cooperation, that plan i assume doesn't fly. >> i'm talking about the guatemalan border but we need mexico's cooperation. we're all living in the same neighborhood. we need to work together and figure this out. >> congressman vicente gonzalez, we know you have a lot of work to do in the coming days, not just on the border but on the budget. best of luck. >> thank you, jim. >> thanks so much to all of you for joining us today. nice sitting next to you this week. >> a pleasure. absolutely. >> a little bit of news this week. >> a little bit. >> maybe next week too. >> i'm erica hill. thanks for being with us. "at this hour" with kate bolduan
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starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. breaking news out of the white house this hour. president biden just wrapped up an impromptu news conference addressing many of the big issues facing him and his agenda right now. the president touted the cdc's decision to allow booster shots for millions of americans who receive the pfizer vaccine. he called on those who were eligible to get their shots now. so my message today is this -- if you've got the pfizer vaccine, the pfizer vaccine in january, february, march of this year and you're over 65 years of age, to get the booster. or if you have a medical condition like dia


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