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there are sharp disagreements over president biden's infrastructure bill. leaders vow to bring the bill to the floor. democrats say they will sink the bill if agreements persist. >> i think the speaker will bring a bill to the floor that will fail. >> at the same time, lawmakers work to stave off government shutdown from happening as soon as next week. >> there are no longer any migrants in the camp underneath the del rio international bridge. >> the migrant camp that once
housed thousands of migrants is clear this morning. but the diplomatic crisis over their treatment and what happens to them next is still alive. joined by one texas lawmaker pushing democratic lawmakers to publicly condemn what he called inhumane treatment of migrants. new details related to the death of gabby petito. one said she gave brian laundrie a ride to the campground. where the search for laundrie stands now. the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection will hold several trump loyalists in contempt if they don't respond to subpoenas related to the investigation. are they prepared to follow through? "newsroom" starts now. welcome to your saturday morning, september 25th. glad to have you. i am christi paul. >> i am boris sanchez. you are live in the cnn
"newsroom." >> let's talk about the divide among democrats and republican push back on democrats' plans to avoid a government shutdown. >> speaker nancy pelosi says the house will move forward with plans to pass a infrastructure and reconciliation spending bill. but there are sharp disagreements within the democratic party between moderates and progressives, disagreements that threaten to derail the plan potentially throwing president biden's economic agenda into limbo. we're at this stalemate at the moment. we have to get two pieces of legislation passed. hopefully at the end of the day, i'll be able to deliver on what i said i would do. >> in the meantime, lawmakers are facing a deadline which is thursday to keep the government open. the senate is expected to vote on funding the government and the debt ceiling, republicans are pushing back, saying they're willing to pass government funtding but democrats have to
do the debt limit on their own. sun what do you know about progress thus far? >> so far there is no progress. time is incredibly short and stakes as you laid out are incredibly high which is why we are seeing lawmakers continue to meet this weekend, have intense negotiations to figure a path forward. so far it is i wllusive. you have a standoff between how the democrats, between progressives and moderates. moderates want nancy pelosi to hold firm, keep the date of monday to vote on the bipartisan infrastructure package but progressives say they're willing to vote against the infrastructure bill. they are willing to potentially tank that bill before there's agreement. they want to see agreement on that broader economic plan, the
social safety net plan, huge $3.5 trillion plan. they're at this moment holding firm to that threat. speaker of the house nancy pelosi plans to pass both bills, but path forward at this moment is very unclear. she's trying to show some momentum. that's in part why we'll see later today at 2:00 p.m. eastern time the budget committee start to meet and start to markup the economic plan, trying to appease progressives that they hope some progress is going to be made there, but so much has to come together, christi and boris, and at this moment, unclear how it will. >> they're up against the clock. we'll see what they do. sunlen serfaty, thank you so much. according to the homeland security department, thousands of haitian migrants at a makeshift camp under a texas bridge have been removed. some were deported to haiti,
others allows into the u.s. for processing. thousands chose to return to mexico. the crisis at the border highlighted challenges that are facing the biden administration, specifically when it comes to immigration. >> cnn correspondent rosa flores joins us from del rio with details. you were there when migrants started to set up tents about a week ago. what is it like now? >> you know, all those tents are gone. we saw heavy machinery moved in and leveled the area that was next to the bridge which we saw a sea of huts handmade. according to alejandro mayorkas, 2,000 migrants were returned to haiti. 5,000 are in customs and border protection custody and are being processed, another 8,000 voluntarily returned to mexico. and small percentage were allowed to stay in the united
states. the migrant camp in del rio, texas where at one point more than 15,000 waited in squaler to be processed closed friday. >> as of now, there were zero persons under the bridge. >> reporter: drones capturing the last of them getting on buses, single adults, hands zip ties, bodies patted down. today, the president vowing there will be consequences, following the controversial images of border patrol agents on horseback using aggressive tactics. >> it was horrible what you saw to see people treated like they did, horses running over, people being strapped, it is outrageous. i promise you, those people will pay. >> reporter: according to dhs, more than 1900 haitian nationals have been returned to haiti. 3900 are in customs and border protection custody, about 1600
have been released in del rio, according to a local nonprofit. that's where we met reginald. he spent a week under the bridge with his family. how is it to be there with an infant? he says his daughter got sick due to cold morning wind and the dust. dhs secretary saying a small percentage of migrants are being allowed to stay. >> if in fact they make a valid claim to remain in the united states, then of course we honor that. >> reporter: john says he waited under the bridge a week. his number in line 10,825. it was finally called thursday. why did you leave haiti? he says he left haiti because it is very tough there. and he says imagine they assassinated our president. what safety could he have. >> reporter: vice president harris tasked with examining the root causes of migration at the border was asked if all deportations of haitians should
be halted. >> i feel strongly, the president feels strongly, we have to do more. >> reporter: now a new problem. immigration processing facilities are overcapacity. >> just over 5,000 are being processed by dhs to determine whether they will be expelled or placed in immigration removal proceedings. >> our camera is capturing in the past week free flow of migrants from mexico into the u.s. and swelling of a migrant camp in texas that resembled the third world. >> do you take responsibility for chaos unfolding? >> of course i take responsibility. i am president. >> reporter: the del rio international bridge is still closed. the del rio mayor saying what's going on is an intelligence assessment is being made to determine when the bridge can reopen. according to the mayor, every day the bridge is closed the city loses $17,000 in tolls and loss in trade is $35 million. >> wow, rosa flores, great
point. thank you so much. west al green called on congress to condemn inhumane treatment of migrants at the border. thanks for sharing part of the weekend with us. we appreciate having you. you are speaking out against disturbing images at the southern border. there was an assumption by many that voted for president trump that immigrants would be treated differently than they were under four years of donald trump. and yet many of your fellow colleagues in congress have essentially said the white house is not doing enough to distance themselves from policies. congressman, do you believe this white house is detaching itself from policies under the trump administration? >> thank you for having me. greatly appreciate it. i would like to make this
comment. i thank the president for the words he uttered when he indicated there would be consequences for what happened with those horses. he is a person of goodwill. i think he means well. but i know that that behavior is unacceptable that we saw at the border. you cannot have this occur with anyone, doesn't matter race or ethnicity, that's unacceptable. that's why we have the resolution to condemn the behavior and hope it will come to the floor. i believe that the president is following the law. unfortunately, the law has not favored haitians for some time. in 1966 we passed in congress the cubans adjustment act. it became known as wet foot-dry foot. if a human could get one foot on dry land, that person would have a pathway to citizenship after about a year, literally. never applied to any other persons from any latin countries at the time. if you came from south of the
border, didn't apply to you. cubans never knew something called undocumented status. they were always documented. by the way, i never opposed it. it wasn't something i opposed. my point is haitians seem to always get the short end of the deal and we've got to change that. we've got to make sure they're treated fairly. when they're sent back to haiti now, they get 50 to $100, depends who you ask, i heard 100 on television, i asked the homeland security department, got $50. they get a phone call and food in a country where there's devastation from an earthquake. they also are in conflict with each other because the law is in conflict in this country. we have a tps, temporary protected status for haitians here prior to a certain date and that's because we know it is dangerous to send them back. yet the haitians who have come
through mexico, we're sending some of them back. i find it unacceptable. we should not send them back to haiti. >> congressman, i want to play a portion of a speech you gave on the house floor this week. let's play this clip for viewers. >> black lives matter wherever they happen to be. they matter in haiti and they matter at the southern border. >> the homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas pushed back yesterday on the notion that haitian migrants are treated differently than other immigrants. how do you respond to secretary mayorkas? >> the secretary and i happen to be on very good terms. i wouldn't want this perceived as anything over than a statement of my position. my position is that haitians were not treated fairly in 1966 when we started the wet foot,
dry foot apology. we have gps for some haitians and don't give it to other haitians. i believe we ought to give tps to haitians coming through the border because it is unsafe for some to go back, and we know it is. just had an assassination, just had an earthquake, we know it is, we ought to do what i believe is not just the right thing, the righteous thing to do. there are some things that you have moral imperative to do and i think we need to re-examine that moral. i asked the secretary to do so. i hope that law will be reexamined and let's not send them back. >> congressman, as far as wet foot, dry foot goes, it was ended in 2017 by former president trump. and the counter argument i heard repeatedly why it was put in place is because the government in cuba and authoritarian communist government kills people who speak out in the
street against their rule. the same thing doesn't quite happen in haiti, i don't mean to down play circumstances there, surely it is a humanitarian crisis, but do you not see a distinction between those that are fleeing oppression and those stuck in a place where food is hard to come by and the economy is crumbling? >> several points. the first is death is death. you have gangs killing people in haiti. now, if the government kills you or a gang kills you, you're still dead. there's killing taking place in haiti. the next part, when wet foot, dry foot started, it was for that purpose you mentioned. but as years went on, it applied to people that just needed to get to the united states from cuba. it expanded as a matter of being de facto.
the jury is the same but it changed. as a result, many came. i never opposed it, i wanted equal treatment for others from places like haiti where they have been suffering a long time, too. and finally this. my argument now is predicated upon having temporary protected status for haitians, some who arrived before a certain date related to the earthquake. i believe we ought to give it to all haitians in the country. >> why doesn't the biden administration do that? >> i don't know why. i think i can speculate and say it is because of section 42 which allows removal of persons for health reasons when juxtaposed to tps, temporary protected status. but i believe that temporary protected status ought to trump this because the health care needs can be met and satisfied in this country. we just have to be a better
country and i think we are a better country. i'm not saying this as a person who doesn't support the president, i say it because i do support him. one final thing. if we check carefully, we will find it wasn't mr. trump ended it, it may have been ended under mr. obama. i think it was president obama. >> we'll do the fact check after. you may be right on that. i did want to ask you, congressman, while we have you about the spending bill you played a role crafting that's the subject of much debate in your own party. moderate democrats made very clear they're not going to accept that $3.5 trillion price tag. they argue to get that and the bipartisan infrastructure bill through, there's going to have to be compromises. i wonder what you would be willing to compromise on. >> i am absolutely willing to compromise, not sure it would be wise to negotiate the compromise
while i appreciate you having me onto negotiate it now. i see us in a position where failure is not an option. it is not an option. there are other things that we can negotiate and this is part of the process, by the way. so i am not moved we're at a point it appears to be a stalemate. it is part of the process. we have the classic circumstance of needs versus numbers. the needs are there, but there are people that differ on what the number ought to be. i am willing to make concessions. i lived long enough, 74 years old. i lived long enough to know i can't always have my way. i am willing to make some concessions. i believe we have needs that have to be met, and this is a similar moment in time that requires similar legislation. we are proposing in reconciliation will impact generations to come. child care is absolutely needed.
women work, they're in the work force in places now they've never been before. but we need child care. we also need infrastructure called housing. out of my window as i look out now there's a bridge, an overpass. people live under the overpass outside a congressional office. if bridges can become housing, then housing can be infrastructure. we have to do something about affordable housing in this country. we waited too long. this is a similar moment to make it happen. >> congressman, we appreciate you spending time with us this morning. also appreciate the fact check. you were correct, it was president obama that ended wet foot, dry foot. as always, appreciate the time. thank you. >> love you no less. thank you so much. >> of course. so more than 50 professors at the university of georgia sent a letter to the chancellor saying they're ready to mandate
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say more has to be done. one taking part is a professor in department of genetics. we are grateful to have you here. thank you. i want to ask you first and foremost what have you experienced on campus that prompted you to take it to this step? >> well, thanks, christi, for invitation to talk to you today. what we see on campus, personally i have seen a significant number of students who voluntarily wear masks, certainly indoors and laboratories and classes in which i teach, and that's wonderful. there are exceptions. really varies across campus. some schools and departments have only a tiny percentage of students wearing masks, others down in science departments where i spend most of my time have 70, 80, 90%.
people wearing masks in classes. but as you know, it doesn't take very many people to transmit covid-19 and masks are mitigating effect but aren't a complete solution. university system of georgia not only doesn't allow us to mandate mask wearing, doesn't allow to mandate vaccines, doesn't allow to ask if a student has been immunized. we have no idea what percentage or number students might have infectious form of covid-19 at the moment during our classes. >> because of what you just said, the scenario that you pointed out, it can't be mandated per the state. with that said, what is your level of concern for any consequence for yourself and fellow professors? >> well, we discussed going a little farther than we had gone before which is a lot of
internal faculty documents, some with hundreds or thousands of signatures of faculty members not only from university of georgia but other universities in the university system of georgia collection of 26 public institutions. we sent out many petitions internally and have gotten no response at all that we could detect. we decided we needed to go to another level because this isn't something we could just delay, fall semester started, students were coming together. we waited for internal solutions to work and they didn't seem to go forward. so we decided to go another step. that was to make this mandate. that meant if we have a mask mandate, violates usga policy, that's grounds for dismissal. usg said they have that ability and authority to do so and so we
think it is reasonably possible that our requiring masks in classes will give rise to proceedings to remove us from the faculty and for us to lose our jobs. >> what would you do at that point? >> me? i would find another job. i'm not going to abandon the university of georgia. i love the institution. i love what i do for a living. i would do everything i could to work within the system to make the students i teach safe and people i work with safe as we can be, and so i'll fight it down the line as i know my other colleagues will but it doesn't mean we win that fight. certainly we hope the usg will recognize this is not good for the students. we are not asking for anything outlandish, we are asking
university of georgia to follow cdc recommendations and guidelines. that isn't an outlandish request. we hope they'll come around and see this is the best policy and that you will have success without having to lose our jobs. >> and notable to point out that this is a letter to the university that was signed by 50 people, many that are experts in infectious diseases. we hope we get to talk to you again about all of this, professor. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next, the republican arizona audit results are in and they confirm what's shockingly obvious. joe biden won the 2020 election, but that's not stopping another state from attempting its own audit. stay with us. thanks for coming. now when it comes to a financial plan this broker is your man. let's open your binders to page 188...
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today, authorities will return to the 25,000 acre florida reserve near the home of brian laundrie. a source tells cnn he left his parents' home leaving his cell phone and wallet. his parents apparently expressed concern he might hurt himself. the fbi issued an arrest warrant for laundrie connected to devices he used after petito's death. >> referring to details of a second woman in wyoming that says she gave him a ride to the area where petito's body was later found. nadia romero is in florida.
there seems to be something new on this every day. what is the latest this morning? >> reporter: christi, that information you mentioned is so important. that's now a second person who can put brian laundrie brian laundrie at the same spot they found gabby petito. the timeline is crucial because it has been all over the place as you mention. so many developments, twists, turns, and multiple states involved. earlier this week we saw a candlelight vigil held in honor of gabby petito and her memory, celebrating her life. few hours south in utah, we saw police interaction between gabby petito and brian laundrie because of a domestic dispute call. that's now under independent investigation, seeing if the police officers handled that correctly. that's in utah. back in florida, this is where police believe or we're told by
brian laundrie's parents he came last week, last tuesday to this nature preserve behind me. it is so important to remember we're in florida. it is hot, muggy, humid, and also swampy. within those swampy waters are alligators and snakes. that's what the research crews are having to deal with for now another day going into the weekend as search efforts are supposed to resume this weekend. in parts of the nature preserve, some 25,000 acres, flood waters are up to the waist of people going and looking for him, concerned he may have hurt himself, concerned that he might not be here. that this might be a wild goose chase. there are all these different elements when it involves this case. we know so many people are interested in what will happen from here, we'll keep you updated. >> we appreciate it. thank you so much. in the battle against the big lie, results from the arizona audit confirms once
again president biden defeated donald trump in the 2020 election. the final report of findings adds votes to the final biden tally, specifically in maricopa county. >> as the arizona audit ends, this is inspiring copy cat tactics in other areas. republicans in states like wisconsin and pennsylvania along with states that trump won like florida and texas, they're now attempting to conduct bogus audits of their own. natasha chen joins us live. what can you tell us about results of the audit, it didn't turn out the way i think the former president expected. >> reporter: boris, the key thing to know from the final report is that joe biden did win maricopa county as we've known almost a year. his supporters didn't fix ate on that part. the presentation of the final
report lasted three hours and the ceo of cyber ninjas, the group hired to do the audit that lasted five months, a group that had no experience auditing elections. here's the couple of minutes he spent talking about results of the hand count they did. >> you take a look at the presidential race, trump loses 261 votes from official votes, biden gains 99. juror again son loses 204 votes. these are all small numbers when you talk about 2.1 million ballots, small discrepancies. we can say that ballots that were provided to us to count in the colosseum very accurately correlate with official numbers that came through. >> reporter: the rest of the three hours were spent talking about potential issues that could effect up to tens of
thousands of ballots without providing concrete evidence of that and at the same time, election officials have been debunking a lot of the issues, including maricopa county, through the official twitter account. they were live tweeting fact checks, rebuttals, point by point, explaining to the public how election processes actually work. the presentation also included recommendations for legislative improvements here to what they describe as tightening the election process. so in essence, really restricting voter access. those are some of the recommendations made in the final report of findings, that is from the cyber ninjas, boris, christi. >> this is what's interesting. four counties in texas started the process of conducting audits. president trump won texas. it's also happening in florida as boris mentioned at the top of this. people might be thinking is the assumption they want to find fraud anywhere to think that they can prove it happened
despite whether he won or lost? it seems counter productive. >> reporter: christi, i don't think anyone would dispute the fact that these efforts are not going to change the results of the 2020 election. we know that joe biden won. what the efforts are doing is creating an unprecedented campaign here to politicize election administration and undermine confidence in the results and that's what we're seeing even in places like you said where president trump won. so texas that you mentioned. president trump on thursday sent a letter to governor abbott asking for an audit. later on, we learned from texas secretary of state's office announcing full forensic audit of the 2020 general election in four of the state's largest counties. and by the way, two out of the four largest counties actually did go for trump and there is a bill being introduced in the
texas legislature now calling for third party forensic audits. this is happening like you said in other places, an attempt to further the conspiracies and further the big lie. christi, boris? >> yeah, natasha, history will look back on this charade as a shameful chapter of american history. thank you so much. >> thank you, natasha. coming up, four men with close ties to former president trump have been called to testify before the january 6th committee next month. what information could they share with lawmakers and what if they refuse to comply?
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the committee investigating the january 6th insurrection issued the first round of subpoenas. the targets, documents and testimony from at least four of former president trump's closest aides and advisers. >> marshall cohen joins us live. committee members say criminal contempt is on the table for those that don't cooperate. >> that would be one of the most extreme options. but we're not there yet. good morning, guys. this is a big deal. it is the first four subpoenas from the committee that's of course investigating the january 6th insurrection. and they went to some real big heavy hitters in the trump world. i will break it down. first, mark meadows who was with president trump on january 6th. that was chief of staff.
there's dan scavino behind the trump media presence. we know how big a role social media played fueling this insurrection. steve bannon who was in touch with a lot of the other people organizing this quote, unquote stop the steal movement. and then probably the least well known, kash patel, installed in the pentagon in the final months of the trump administration. people are afraid he may have been part of an effort to use the military to keep trump in power. those are the four that got subpoenas this week. they were asked to come in and give a deposition and provide documents to the committee. why, why these four men. take a listen to what congressman adam schiff, top democrat on the committee, and what he had to say why these guys got the first subpoenas. >> and essentially no one is off the table. we're going to determine what
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