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is done. it is true a deal might be close but it is decidedly not done. how does the white house explain the calculus made in this speech? >> a framework is certainly not a deal and lawmakers have made that clear ever since the president visited house democrats this morning. first saying they wanted to see a text, then saying they wanted to make sure they had assurances of course of the two critical moderate senators who have been at the center of the negotiations, senator manchin and senator sinema. the president was projecting confidence before he left the white house today talking about the negotiating that they've been doing on this which he of course noted had gone on for hours and hours over months and months and saying that this is an agreement where no one is getting everything they want but essentially making the argument that everyone is getting something. what the president announced in the framework from the white house is far from complete because there were several parts not in the white house framework, things democrats have said they'd like to have in
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there. so the question of how it ultimately ends up when it comes to the size and scope of the plan but also how it is going to be paid for are things that have to be actually hammered out and progressives have made clear their feelings on that until it is actually hammered out and so that is really what we were seeing from the white house is the president making clear that he wanted to put some kind of momentum behind this because it was his last chance to do so before he left the u.s. for several days to come here to meet with world leaders so i think that was the driving force behind the president's remarks earlier. >> manu we had congresswoman cori bush one of the progressives from missouri on the show saying that the text is not enough. the framework is not enough. she still doesn't know that kyrsten sinema and joe manchin are committed to voting for the build back better act and there seems to be a real lack of trust there. do you think there is going to be a vote on the infrastructure bill? what are you hearing from progressives? >> it is unclear if the vote is going to happen tonight. i do know democratic leaders are
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pushing hard to have a vote as soon as tonight. nancy pelosi made clear, i asked her today, will, why not delay this vote for sometime to give progressives what they want, the larger bill to move alongside the infrastructure bill and have it pass the house and want commitments from joe manchin and kyrsten sinema they will support this at the end of the day but pelosi said she wants to move ahead. she said it doesn't make sense to delay further in part because of a deadline dealing with surface transportation funding but nevertheless is pushing. does she have the votes is another question because the progressives are saying the release of the bill text is not enough. one of the key progressive voices just met with sinema behind closed doors. after that meeting she said what she said going in. she would vote no tonight on the bill because she wants these two bills to move in tandem. other progressive democrats told me they want at least some public sign of support from manchin and sinema that they
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would back the larger bill even if it does not have a vote in the house at the same time. moments ago i caught up with joe manchin and asked him why not support this bill? the liberals say they want your support publicly. he said, if they can't take the word of the president of the united states and the speaker we are in trouble. he said we are going to work in good faith but notably would not say if he backs this bill he did indicate to me he is open to that, potentially supportive of the $1.75 trillion price tag higher than he wanted but still no sign of support. >> president biden came into office touting america is back on the world stage and has his first meetings in italy tomorrow where you are. then the climate conference in scotland next week. how does he explain having a democratic house, senate, whoit house, and yet can't close this deal? >> that is going to be a big question for the president and his aides have tried to tamp down expectations surrounding that, saying that these are
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other world leaders. they get domestic politics and understand what the president is dealing with but it is bigger than just the climate provisions i think in this bill. it has turned into something bigger because earlier this week that is what the white house was saying is he wanted to have this deal in his hands so when he does go to the climate summit he can say, hey, look. this is how the united states is leading on these provisions and we expect other nations to follow suit. now what you're hearing from democratic leaders is it has turned into more confidence in governing aspect like what you were saying where the president at the last summit saw a lot of the world leaders about four or five months ago the g7 he was saying america is back. this is proving that democracy works. this is how we govern. of course now that there's been a lot of chaos surrounding his own agenda that is something that the white house is focusing on and even house speaker pelosi saying the president needed a vote of confidence from congress. >> all right. manu raju on capitol hill, kaitlan collins in rome ahead of president biden's arrival. thanks to both of you. let's discuss with my august panel. it looks like this
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infrastructure vote is not going to happen because we know speaker pelosi tends to not bring items to the floor of the house that she knows cannot win. doesn't have the votes. i don't think this has the votes. was it all a miscalculation, biden giving the speech, the historic framework trying to get some momentum and kind of like fizzles out? >> well, the ball is moving down the court. or down the field here. >> okay. >> we are seeing some movement and momentum. listen, i heard your interview with cori bush and i was in the car on the way over here and i saw her earlier. the passion she feels is real because the voters in her district, she has politics, too, and the voters in her district it is not academic for them some of the ideas in these bills. they are very invested. i just don't understand why joe manchin and kyrsten sinema can't say it is a deal. at the moment there is no agreement. the president keeps saying they have an agreement. he does not have an agreement with joe manchin and kyrsten sinema anybody can discern. >> listen to what cori bush the
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congresswoman from missouri said about why a framework, why the text is not good enough for her and her caucus. >> our trust has to be in two senators that have not in my opinion been good faith actors up until this point. >> the white house disagrees. the white house will defend sinema and manchin and they say they've been very clear and honest in their dealings with them. but this is a remarkable amount of distrust within one party's caucus. >> it goes back to just a month ago when there was again the failed attempt to bring infrastructure bill to the floor which sowed distrust from moderates to progressives. you're right. the white house is trusting that manchin and sinema will come along on this framework and they can get them to yes. biden said to the caucus that he believed there will be 50 votes for what they've outlined in the senate but so many progressives i talked to say they want to hear the words explicitly from
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manchin and sinema. they want to hear them say, yes. we support this. >> it's not unreasonable. >> it is just remarkable there is so little trust that when manchin comes out and says to manu, okay. yeah. i like this. or sinema, you know, meets with folks or meets at the white house that there is so little trust inside the democratic party on this. it is remarkable. so here's what they've done. they may have a transformational piece of legislation, pieces of legislation. but what have they been talking about, the price tag, way too high. >> what keeps getting cut. >> and now what is not in the bill. not what's in the bill. >> what do you make of all of this charlie dent former republican congressman from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania how does this look to you? >> i've been here before. yesterday we didn't know how much it was going to cost. how they were going to pay for it. or what's in it. now we have some idea. >> 1.75 trillion. >> but i -- look, the progressives have been holding the infrastructure bill hostage.
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we'll find out tonight whether they'll shoot it. they are behaving very much like the freedom caucus did. taking hostages all the time and making threats. have to hand it to them. it looks like they'll make good on it. the democrats i think have completely misread their mandate from the election. this is not a mandate to go big. this is a mandate for stability, normalcy, incrementalism, and as joe biden said a few weeks ago if you want to pass the big liberal agenda you need to elect more liberals. they don't have new deal or great society majorities here. >> i think there are two mandates. one was to bring the country back together. let's have reasonable governing where facts matter and not criminality. that was one. the other mandate was, for people who needed to turnout in the big elections in atlanta and in northern virginia and some of these places or down in hampton roads and those areas if you want african-american voters, democratic young voters to turn out and vote they need to see the process is working on their behalf. there are two mandates.
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maybe they are in conflict but for somebody like raphael warnock in georgia or terry mcauliffe trying to get turnout at the last minute those politicians need big turnout. >> have they seen a process that's working? that is the question. all they've seen for months is democrats fighting each other. >> whose problem is that? >> take a look. so senator mit romney republican of utah on board with the bipartisan infrastructure bill, he dressed up as ted lasso for halloween. this is him. this is him going to serve biscuits to the boss which happens in the show except here he has the boss played by democratic senator kyrsten sinema in a fine bit of trolling he seems to be enjoying the fact that kyrsten sinema with whom he is allied on infrastructure is the boss. it is very mischievous of senator romney. >> it is. he is as you said accurately trolling democrats because there are so many democrats that do feel as though manchin and
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sinema are pulling the strings and controlling a lot of what is happening and progressives have argued that they are a huge chunk of the caucus which they are. >> they've never been more powerful. >> and yet they feel as though they have compromised a lot, gone down from 3.5 trillion to potentially 1.75 trillion. they are not necessarily happy. i want to mention what the white house is arguing right now to the hill is marsha fudge just met with members of the congressional black caucus and their argument was don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. she is saying now isn't the time to demand everything in the build back better bill and said look there are all these other priorities and she argued that maybe democrats made them too large whether hr 1 the elections reform bill or other bills and they just need to come onboard now and support all of this. >> we heard president biden's message to democrats today as
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the house and senate majorities and the rest of my presidency will be determined by what happens over the next week. is that an over statement? >> i think it is a little bit of an over statement but, frankly, they could have had this infrastructure bill done in august and would have had 80 republican votes but caved in for progressives and threw the moderates under the bus. they had an agreement and voted on the agreement they would vote for the budget resolution and infrastructure by september -- >> they could have gotten it passed without the progressive caucus? >> they probably would have had 80 votes. >> 80 republican house votes. >> house republican votes in august on that infrastructure bill. because they tied the two things together and carried on the way they did the last two months they've just seen republican support erode. i don't know how many democrat progressives would have voted to tank it. but bring the bill up. let people suffer the consequences of their own actions. i used to tell boehner and ryan
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all the time. let them own shutting down the homeland security department. >> do you think it looks like from the cheap seats where i am that democrats are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? >> it looks very tough politically. if i was running a campaign right now in a big state i would be very concerned things weren't getting done. i come from the traditional politics that something is better than nothing and 70% of what you want is better than 100% of nothing. they should be taking that and running with it. the problem is you can't have all the trust on one side. i think what they tried to do moderates tried to run this like old school politics, let's do it, and the progressives will join. the progressives said not so fast. >> they are flexing their muscles. >> trying to say that for once they have the numbers to actually show they aren't going to just go along if they aren't going to get what they want because they feel as though all these promises were made in prescription drug negotiations out, paid family medical leave the out right now. they are trying to see if there
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is a way -- >> joe manchin said win a bunch of progressive senate seats and you won't have to deal with me. >> if biden is right and this is an existential moment for his administration you have to give a little. >> thanks for being here. coming up, one congressional committee may issue subpoenas for major oil companies. plus a new report revealing reasons why some parents are reluctant to get their kids vaccinated against covid-19. stay with us. ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon roar from phone) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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committee's investigation into the fossil fuel industry's climate disinformation campaign, unquote. this is the first time executives from the companies testified together under oath in front of congress where democrats attempted to hold their feet to the fire demanding answers for their outsized impact on climate change and the decades of lying their companies have engaged in, wounding the planet for profit. while republicans slammed president biden's handling of soaring gas prices. joining us now is rene marsh. what else did the chairwoman have to say? >> this all came at the very end of the hearing as they were wrapping up and in a word according to the chairwoman, democratic chairwoman maloney the industry has just been stone walling. the committee has been asking for these internal documents, communications with the outside trade groups, as well as paper trail for their funding for certain activities and they said they haven't received it. take a listen to the chairwoman moments ago.
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>> unfortunately none of the six entities have produced a substantial portion of the key documents the committee requested. instead, they produced reams of other documents many of which were publicly available. >> well, this is significant in the sense that this is the first time these major companies are being held accountable in this manner, being subpoenaed for these sort of internal documents surrounding this particular issue of climate change, their role in climate change, and this allegation from lawmakers that they are engaged in a misinformation campaign. >> you were at the hearing today. how did the oil executives respond? it is pretty clear they have been engaged in this. did they admit it and apologize? >> there were some key moments. one key moment was that the shell ceo while she did admit that climate change was a challenge in her words, she refused to say that it was an
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existential threat. all of the companies acknowledged climate change and said they support issues curbing emissions and all denied taking part in the misinformation campaigns. however, there came a point when representative asked them if they would all commit to stop funding groups like the american petroleum institute which is the most powerful lobby for the industry. would they stop supporting groups like that who are deliberately lobbying to undercut the sort of green policies the companies say they support and no one committed to that. it was an interesting moment and on full display at that point that they were saying one thing but were not willing to commit to stop financially supporting groups that were undercutting these green measures, these policies, and also in some instances spreading this disinformation. >> all right. thank you so much. in our politics lead now
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multiple sources tell cnn the other committee that we're going to talk about right now the committee investigating the deadly insurrection is eying an aggressive step to get trump's former chief of staff at the white house mark meadows to talk. joining us now is cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent and could mark meadows president trump's last white house chief of staff be joining steve bannon in getting charged with contempt of congress? >> it is possible jake. we have learned members are growing increasingly frustrated and some are considering taking more aggressive action to force meadows to play ball. now, it's been over a month since he was originally subpoenaed and the committee has said he was engaging, negotiating possible terms of possible cooperation. at least one source familiar with the negotiations says at this point it is clear that meadows has no intention of actually providing documents or testimony. so some committee members are considering taking addition asteps. one thing they could do is set
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another subpoena date for him which would force him to either comply or potentially be referred for criminal contempt like steve bannon. but there is a risk here, jake. unlike steve bannon, as a former chief of staff, meadows likely has greater executive privilege protections. now, would the biden white house uphold those for him? it is unclear. so far president biden has declined to assert executive privilege over bannon and other trump white house records. the white house counsel has repeatedly said they believe the insurrection was extraordinary and the president has concluded it is not in the best interests of the united states to uphold privilege. but when it comes to meadows we are told the white house is taking everything on a case by case basis. >> we just learned that former justice department official jeffrey clark who allegedly conspired with trump to try to get rid of the acting attorney general, overthrow the election, etcetera, we just learned
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jeffrey clark will not testify tomorrow as scheduled. what happened? >> right. he recently parted ways with his attorney robert driscoll. he may have difficulty finding a new lawyer. in our reporting speaking with dozens of lawyers around this investigation it has been difficult for witnesses to find attorneys willing to take them on. when it comes to clark he is a highly desirable witness for the committee but that is because he helped the former president in the weeks after the november election push these unfounded claims of a voter fraud and he really became one of former president trump's most useful assets inside the justice department. lawmakers want to talk to him about what the president was doing at that time and who else was helping him. but it is unclear how long it will take him to get a new attorney and if and when he'll be back before the committee. >> thank you so much. one school district has switched to finger foods because there are not enough utensils. just one of the many shortages affecting how we eat. we'll show you, next.
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in our national lead it wasn't that long ago that one could find vital food and supplies on the shelves pretty much any time you went to a store in the united states but now those shelves might be empty or if you do find what you're after the price tag might make it out of reach. we keep hearing about supply chain shortages and promises to fix things but in the meantime as cnn's gabe coen discovered these shortages are having serious ripple effects and people are hurting. >> reporter: from a wide angle it is just one of the countless end points of the u.s. supply
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chain. >> hi. >> reporter: but this food delivery is a life line for beth greenlee. >> god only knows how thankful i am for the meals. >> reporter: she has stage 4 cancer and little income >> i almost want to cry. because it was truly mana from above. >> reporter: she is referring to mana, a nonprofit that cooks and delivers free meals to more than 1200 of the sickest people in philadelphia. now they have a problem. the price of their ingredients is skyrocketing. up 40%. >> that is a lot for our bottom line. what could happen is starting in december we may have to say no to clients. we'll literally have to turn client away. >> reporter: the issue is the snarled supply chain. experts say there is plenty of food but with cargo ships backed up manufacturers are missing materials. a shortage of labor and truckers is making it harder and more expensive to package food products and get them where they need to go.
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food banks are feeling the effects with donations down across the country. at el pasoans fighting hunger, now truck loads of food just aren't showing up to their desert community. >> we are struggling every day to find adequate supply. i have never seen anything like this. >> reporter: a september survey foun 23% of americans experienced food challenges in the past year with 37% receiving food assistance from nonprofits or the government. at the mission house in south philadelphia annette glover is concerned about thanksgiving. >> the biggest fear is we have enough food to feed the people. >> reporter: she has seen the price of turkey spike and donations stall. >> if they don't come in i will use my money to buy them turkeys and have a good thanksgiving and christmas. >> reporter: supply problems have hit schools, too, with food deliveries delayed or canceled constantly. in june the grocery vendor for
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philadelphia public schools abandoned them citing a worker shortage. their orders have been unpredictable all year. >> we have a five-week lead time but then find out two days before it is not coming in. >> reporter: it is a different item every week. right now they're running out of trays, making daily menu changes even with their food staff down more than 20%. how much of a scramble has this been for staff? >> it has been constant. we really are trying in every way to make sure we are providing the meal. i will say we're not shorting any of the wood. >> they are not alone. cincinnati public schools are down close to 20 each week. dallas schools are adding more finger foods because they can't get enough utensils. in prince george's county, maryland the district canceled take home suppers. how has that affected your family? >> translator: we can no longer say we are going out to have fun because we need to buy food
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first. >> reporter: oscar rivera has two sons in the district and his family is spending more on groceries and turning to food banks to put dinner on the table. >> translator: food is the most important thing in a home. toys don't matter. going out doesn't matter. food does matter. >> reporter: so the usda has offered some financial assistance for schools and yet school budgets in a lot of cases are going up right now. it is just a high stakes example of the supply chainish yous hitting americans across the country from home goods to prices for necessities and for those helping families that are food insecure and certainly for the families themselves they are worried, jake, about the months ahead. >> welcome to cnn. great to have you. >> thank you. >> an important piece. a vaccine for young kids is on the horizon. is it smart to drop mask mandates? we'll discuss with a doctor, next. but it's also a game, of information. because the nfl is connected. and at any moment, the fate of the season
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in our health lead it appears the united states is
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finally heading in the right direction on at least one issue. covid cases, covid hospitalizations, covid deaths all on the decline. now more, 28 million more children may soon be able to get vaccinated. as cnn's nick watt reports there is a new report from the kaiser family foundation that says parent aren't exactly lining up their children for shots. >> reporter: nationwide new covid-19 cases are down 60% from that early september peak. hospitalations down just over 50%. starting tomorrow in new orleans masks no longer required. most places. more than 40% of americans say their lives are basically back to prepandemic normal but not everyone is happy. new york city firefighters protesting the 5:00 p.m. friday deadline for them to get at least one vaccine shot. >> i'm an american and it is freedom of choice. everybody should have freedom of
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choice. >> reporter: parents in portland, oregon -- >> no i will not. >> reporter: refusing to mask up to debate a vaccine mandate for kids 12 plus >> i haven't talked to a single student who doesn't want a mandate so it is exciting to see that students want it. it is a little discouraging parents don't. >> reporter: pfizer vaccine shots for kids 5 to 11 could come as soon as wednesday. but two-thirds of parents polled are concerned about the vaccine impacting their child's future fertility. >> there is nothing in the data to suggest that. there is nothing in the data to suggest that happens with adult either. this is facebook medicine. there is also no biologically plausible mechanism through which that would occur. >> reporter: only about one-quarter of americans say they'll get their kids vaccinated right away. >> when people start seeing the vaccinations are being distributed and administered and things are going well people gain more confidence. i think the number is going to
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increase. >> reporter: finally a jumbled cliche''s reminder the mercury is dropping and we are not yet out of the woods. take it away, governor of new hampshire. >> we are going to start resuming our weekly covid update because unfortunately as we predicted months ago the fall surge, winter surge really as we predicted is unfortunately upon us. >> reporter: a lot of noise in new york as the mandate for city employees to be vaccinated approaches tomorrow. today the governor of new york state said vaccine mandate for all public school kids is also, quote, on the table. she says she wants to empower schools and parents to first do the right thing but if case count among kids climb and hospitalizations climb she says i will have no choice but to mandate that kids get the shots. jake? >> thank you so much.
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joining us now the dean of the brown university school of public health. doctor, i first want your reaction to the poll. 27% of parents say they will get their kids shots right away. 33% say they'll wait and see. 30% are a hard no. 5% say they would do it if required, talking about 28 million children who will be eligible to get vaccinated. kids 5 to 11. what happens if not enough of them get vaccinated? >> yeah. good afternoon and thanks for having me back. first of all i hope the 27% number rises substantially as parents begin to talk to pediatricians. what we are seeing is pediatricians are vaccinating their own children or planning to. the american academy of pediatrics is very clear that kids should get vaccinated. i think the number will rise. if a substantial number of kids end up not vaccinated it makes schools less safe but i am hoping we can avoid that situation and really get america's kids vaccinated and protected from this disease.
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>> one of the reasons parents are giving is they are concerned about the effect on their child's future fertility. 66% say they are concerned about that. this is already debunked but two-thirds of parents are citing this. what is that about? >> this comes up with every new vaccine. we saw it with the hpv vaccine. this is a classic tactic of misinformationists. of course anyish yous around infertility create anxiety. there is no easy way to is verify it is not happening. it is debunked and there is no scientific basis for it. it comes up with every new vaccine and probably will with future vaccines. people have to ignore it but it is very difficult when it keeps showing up over and over. >> there are some school districts that already said once children can get vaccinated they'll get rid of their mask mandates. i know you think it is too early for that. at what point do you think schools should be able to drop mask mandates? >> we have to get to a point
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kids can be unmasked. we should use two things a combination of what proportion of kids are vaccinated and what kmount transmission looks like. in places with big outbreaks and low vaccination rates, no. it would be unsafe. but in communities and some may be getting there soon when vaccination numbers are high and infection numbers low taking off the mask in school makes a lot of sense. >> all right. thank you so much. john kerry tells world leaders to quit the crap and let's get serious. will the international climate talks avert a global catastrophe or is it too late? stay with us. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪
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in our earth matters series something we haven't seen in years world leaders including president biden gathering to discuss what to do about the climate crisis. and how to cope with the problems that it is already causing. cnn's phil black looks at the agenda for the upcoming climate conference in glasgow, scotland. >> reporter: these are just some of the biblical events the world has seen and experienced in 2021. extreme floods, fires, droughts, and record temperatures. across the u.s. and around the world. proof scientists say we're already living in a climate crisis. >> it's here. i mean, it is upon us. people see that. people feel that. >> reporter: he led the u.s. climate nosh jagrs through the obama administration and helped forge 2015's paris agreement.
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that breakthrough document includes a critical promise. all countries will work to keep the global average temperature increase within 1.5 and 2 degrees celsius. >> we have a hell of a way to go. >> the reality is we are nowhere near on track to keep things below 2 let alone 1.5. >> we are not near getting on track but are getting better. >> reporter: better ultimately isn't good enough. at the glasgow climate conference each country will be judged on whether it is cutting emissions sufficiently to ensure that crucial 1.5-degree target is still achievable. the scientific consensus says the goal is now slipping beyond reach and the consequences will be disastrous. >> without action to curb greenhouse gas emissions we could see temperatures go well beyond 3 degrees of warming by the end of the century, something the earth has not experienced for 3 million years, long before humans were on the planet it would be a very, very
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different world. >> reporter: u.s. leadership through example is vital at glasgow to boost other countries' ambitions. the biden administration's plan is bold. half u.s. emissions by 2030 and hit net zero carbon by 2050. >> it is fantastic but needs to demonstrate they can deliver that and the lack of agreement at federal level and in many states to the outside world looks like that will be a major challenge. >> reporter: success also depend on big, new commitments from china. the world's biggest polluter is responsible for more than one-quarter of global emissions. china's long-term goal is becoming carbon neutral by 2060. >> so it is quite important that china move much more than they have. again, there is the long-term goal is pretty good but between now and 2030 they haven't pledged really anything. >> reporter: the urgent challenge for china and many developing countries is to stop
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burning coal for electricity while still rapidly growing the economies and lifting populations out of poverty. the issue is going to be a key focus at glasgow along with finance from rich countries to help poorer countries make the change. but even before the conference opens, it is clear there to offer detailed, ambitious commitments. >> we're behind. and we have to stop the bs that is being thrown at us by a number of countries that have not been willing to sign up to what great britain has signed up to, we've signed up to, japan, canada, the eu. that is to keep 1.5 degrees live. >> it's expected glasgow will deliver progress, but will it be enough? as frequent extreme events demonstrate the growing dangers of failure, scientists assure there is now very little tieme
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left to prevent climate change on a devastating scale. jake, china today formally submitted its plan for cutting greenhouse gases. it's a modest improvement. slightly better, but critics say it is woefully inadequate. china's president will not be traveling to glasgow next week. the mood going into these talks is bloomy. boris johnson has been talking about their potential for failure. there is so much at stake and yet it seems at the moment based on the country's formal submissions, there is little chance for success. >> our grand kids are never going to forgive us. moving to our world lead, a david and goliath story. a lawyer who won a $9.5 billion
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judgment against chevron is now heading to federal prison. he accused chevron of dumping isle in the amazon. for year, chevron has been going after donzinger. jessica, what is the extent of the legal retaliation here? >> this long legal saga began when chef ron was ordered to pay $9.5 billion in 2011. after that, the oil giant set its sights on the lawyer who brought the case against them. they say the legal team has buried donzinger -- which chevrolet rof did one and in a separate case, he was ordered to turn over his devices to the court. he refused, citing attorney client privilege and when frl prosecutors in the southern
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district of new york refused to charge him be contempt, his lawyer stepped in to appoint a private law firm to prosecute the case. the law firm was sword and kes l, which has represented many oil companies over the years, including chevron. they did not respond to my request for comment. actually, he was found guilty and has been around house arrest. on tuesday, the appeals court denied his request to stay on out bail and he was ordered to report to federal prison while his appeal plays out. donzinger tweeted a photo saying good-bye to his son yesterday and several members of congress are asking president biden and merrick garland to step into the case. so far, the justice department has not commented. his lawyers will be before the second appeals court november 30th arguing that the announcement of that law firm to prosecute him was unlawful and
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that will be his next chance at getting released from prison after what he says has been a long fight to silence him and other activists working against the oil industry. now chevron has not responded to my request for comment and his lawyer says they have not paid that $9.5 billion judgment g against them and that's something he had been working to enforce at the same time chevron was burying him with legal fights. >> thank you very much. mark zuckerberg looking at all of facebook's problems and thinking, you know what fix this? a new name. stay with us. ♪i try so hard, i can't rise above it♪ ♪don't know what it is 'bout that little gal's lovin'♪ ♪but i like it, i love it♪ applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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in our tech lead, an age old response to bad press. don't worry about it. just change your name. ceo mark zuckerberg anounlsed today that facebook will now be known as meta. this about face book comes as the giant facing backlash over the release of hundreds of internal documents that subject facebook knew its platforms were being used to spread misinformation and incite violence. zuckerberg says facebook is making the change because of its ambitious to be known for more than just social media. and because of its growing focus on virtual reality technologies. critics have compared the move to other high profile name changes following hideous scandaling like black water
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renaming itself as z or philip morris becoming altruia. didn't change much. you can follow me, tweet the show. if you ever miss an episode, you know what you can do? listen to the lead wherever you get your podcasts. our coverage continues with mr. wolf blitzer who's live from rome. >> happening now, breaking news. president biden is on his way here to rome for a high stakes global talks at a watershed moment for his domestic agenda, his presidency and party. he unveiled a framework for his scaled back spending bill before his departure and warned fellow democrats of the consequences if they don't get on board. tonight, speaker pelosi is f