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this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm jim acosta in washington. we begin with breaking news this saturday in the alec baldwin shooting death. he just answered questions publicly for the first time since the gun he was handling killed a live round, killing the cinematographer. natasha, you've just watched the video of baldwin's comments. show us what he said. >> yeah, jim. it was pretty tense. baldwin stopped in vermont to talk to paparazzi, taking a lot
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of time to answer their questions. the whole video was four minutes long and we want to show you the entire thing. here's what happened. >>. >> what you got? >> i will. >> what do you want to know? >> what's the current state of the case? >> i'm not allowed to make any comments because it's an ongoing investigation. but the sheriff's department in santa fe, i can't answer any questions about the investigation. i can't. it's an active investigation in terms of number one -- she was my friend. she was my friend. the day i arrived, i took her to dinner. with joel, the director. we were a very, very, excuse me, we were a very, very, you know, well oiled crew shooting a film together then this horrible event happened. now, i've been told multiple times, don't make any comments about the ongoing investigation and i can't. i can't. i can't. that's it. what other questions do you have other than that? >> you met with the -- forget
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her name. you met with her family. >> halyna. her name is halyna. >> i met with her husband, matthew and her son. >> how did that -- >> i wouldn't know how to categorize it. >> no details. >> i'm going to answer the question. >> the guy is overwhelmed with grief. this is something that you know, there are incidental accidents on film sets from time to time, but nothing like this. this is a one in a trillion. it's a one in a trillion and so he is in shock. he has a 9-year-old son. in constant contact with him because we're very worried about his family and his kid. we're eagerly awaiting what the
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sheriff's department has yielded. >> would you ever work on another film set involving -- >> i couldn't answer that question. i have no sentiment. i do know that an ongoing effort to limit the use of firearms on film sets is something i'm extremely interested in, but remember something i think is important. that is how many bullets have been fired in films and tv shows in the last 75 years? this is america. how many bullets have gone off in movies? firearms on film sets. it's something i'm extremely interested in. but remember something i think is important. that is how many bullets have been fired in films and tv shows in the last 75 years? this is america. in movies and on tv shows. last 75 years. and -- so what has to happen now is we have to realize that when it does go wrong and it's this horrible thing, some new measures have to take place.
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rubber guns. plastic guns. it's urgent. it's urgent that you understand. i'm not an expert in this field. so whatever other people decide is the best way to go in terms of protecting people's safety on film sets. i'm all in favor of and i will walk with them in any way that i can. >> do you think production will start up again? >> no, i doubt it. anything else? that's the first step. anything else? >> just do me a favor. >> my kids are in the car crying. >> because you guys are following. >> as a courtesy, i came to talk. i'm not allowed to comment on the investigation. i talk to the cops every day. >> they know where you are? >> i'm cooperating with them. my point is that i'm just asking we sat down as a courtesy now to talk to you. now please would you just stop following us.
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>> go home. >> thank you. condolences. thank you. >> the woman that you see there standing close to baldwin with her own cell phone out, that is his wife and you can tell there that they seem to have stopped to talk to cameras because they were continuously followed throughout the weekend since this happened and so it's obviously did seem very tense, but at the same time, rather courteous. and he did spend the time to answer what questions he could. and you could tell he was very careful not the talk about the investigation, but did mention that he would be supportive of more stringent measures perhaps to reign in the type of weapons that are used on film sets. >> and natasha, what is the latest on the investigation? has anything developed today that would give us some sense as to what led to just this awful situation? you could hear the pain in alec
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baldwin's voice there. it sounds like he's frustrated by the media attention that he's getting no matter where he goes, which is understandable. but people are asking for answers in all of this. any further developments today to report on? >> not since yesterday, jim. but you did notice baldwin did mention he's talking to the cops every day. that matches what the sheriff's office has told us here. a source telling our colleague that investigators have been talking to baldwin. he has answered the phone. willingly answered questions when they have had follow up questions. at the same time, yesterday morning, we heard from the armor, hannah gutierrez, in a statement through her lawyers. the statement says she has no idea how the live round got on to the set and that safety is her top priority and in response to that, the sheriff here told can understand last night that he would like to have a follow
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up interview with reed to clarify. specifically talking more about how live rounds could have possibly gotten onset and to ask about what kinds of safety protocols she was practicing day-to-day. they would also like to do a follow up interview with the assistant director and they also did seize a number of weapons onset. that was part of a search warrant. it's not clear though morning the whether live rounds were among the ammunition. >> such an awful situation out there in new mexico. thanks for staying on top of it. coming up, we now know what's in the white house documents. former president trump is trying to prevent the committee from seeing those details.
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trump doesn't want seen. trying to keep the information from the house committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. the hundreds of pages trump is trying to keep secret include files from some of his top administration officials. steven miller, kaylie mcnany and mark meadows. among them, three handwritten notes about january 6th. kaitlyn, what other documents does the former president want to keep concealed? sounds like this is just a whole trove of information they're trying to get their hands on. >> it looks like the holy grail of what they were doing on january 6th. what we know now is that we haven't seen these documents themselves. all we've seen is this list from the national archives and the
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list is itemized enough to say by the page count, there's more than 700 pages of records here that donald trump doesn't want out there. and they are from top advisers around the president. their white house visitor logs. call records to trump and mike pence. 30 pages of trump's daily schedule. there's also handwritten memos. there's binders the press secretary had been keeping about talking points on those days and donald trump is trying to keep it secret by going to court and he's suing both the house and the national archives and there is really a, what could be a very historic hearing this week where trump's going to argue that's stuff he as a former president should be able to keep secret and the house and archives will be arguing they believe there's an extraordinary need for the country to have access for this. for the house to look at it as part of their january 6th investigation. >> this is going to be a result in the courts. let's talk about john eastman,
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the attorney who advised donald trump at the time in the months after the 2020 election. our k file unit, they uncovered some fresh sound, i guess. maybe not so fresh sound, but fresh to us because we haven't seen it or considered it since those days leading up to january 6th, but it's important stuff. >> previously before this report yesterday was that eastman had been down playing some of the advice he was giving both to the president and mike pence about how pence should stop the electoral college certification and eastman was saying those are weak arguments. pence maybe shouldn't do those things, but then four days before january 6th, he talks to steve bannon on a radio show. the k file found that sound. here's what that conversation was between bannon and eastman. >> are we to assume that this is going to be a climactic battle that's going to take place this week about the very question of the constitutionality of the
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electoral count of 1877? >> i think a lot of that depends on the courage and the spine of the individuals involved. >> when you just said the courage and the spine, are you talking on the other side of the football? that would be a nice way to say, a guy named mike, vice president mike pence? >> yes. >> and jim, this really does make eastman a key person for the house. everything we know about him, he is someone that the house has indicated they want to talk to. >> all right, thank you so much. very important developments in the january 6th investigation and joining me now to talk about this is john dean, the former white house counsel president nixon, coawe -author. is it obvious why trump doesn't want these documents getting out? it sounds as though there's a lot of very important information in there that the public has a right to know about. >> it will certainly help in establishing what degree of
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culpability donald trump might have. he doesn't want things linked up, he doesn't want schedules, he doesn't want phone records. not to mention notes that have been made with con verversation with aides. i don't think he has a strong argument under the executive precedence. it's a reach for him to include that and think he's going to succeed in court. he's slowing the process down right now. >> and john, because you were involved in watergate during the nixon administration, what does that experience tell you about whether or not donald trump will be successful ultimately in blocking some of this material from coming out? >> i don't think he will succeed in the long run. watergate established the precedent that when criminal investigative bodies, certainly a grand jury, and probably an investigative body such as the congress, looking at misbehavior
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and non-presidential behavior, there's really very little for a president to stand on to take that privilege and make it work. so the courts will balance and find out. maybe they'll say some documents should be included in executive privilege. it's not. it's a balancing process, but i think he's going to lose on it. it's just a stall. >> he's done that so many times before. that's right out of his playbook. on so many things, but when you hear there are three handwritten notes from mark meadows about january 6th, that's at least what we understand to be the case with these documents. that is fascinating. >> and probably also contemporaneous e-mails that will be just as telling. e-mails have become the greatest treasure-trove for lawyers and discovery since known in mankind. they have won and lost more cases based on what's found in e-mails than any single thing in
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the modern era. >> to think this could come down to e-mails. those damn e-mails, as bernie sanders once said. turning to john eastman, you know, i have to ask you as an attorney, this is extraordinary stuff. he told cnn at the time that he just failed to specify that that option of throwing out the election to the house was the weaker option. put this up on screen. saying that's right because it was a radio show. i didn't go into a whole legal trees about the weights and demerits. i said these are the things, these are a couple of things that had been suggested. it's kind of remarkable because he has spent a lot of time in the public eye trying to down play and diminish the importance of this memo, but he's right there on audio with steve bannon really putting more pressure on mike pence and talking about why it was critical to have pressure put on mike pence to go out there and try to overturn those election results.
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>> i think somebody has told him that what he's, it appears what he's engaged in is a seditious conspiracy. that's a very serious crime. a serious 20-year felony. so i think that's why he's clearly walking this stuff back and trying to recast it. whether he'll be successful or not, i don't know. whether he'll ever be criminally investigated on these issues, we don't know yet. that's just, this is all going on behind closed doors and the u.s. attorney's auoffice. we don't know what they're doing. what their grand juries are doing. we don't know what high profile witnesses have been in there, but it's still early. >> and don't you think it's important to see some of these high profile subjects of this investigation grilled on national television the way they
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were during watergate? the way they were during iran contra. we don't do that anymore. we don't grill these guys on tv. shouldn't they be grilled? >> it's very educational for the public, i'll tell you that. first, the ratings were high for watergate inquiry. for example, my week of testimony, i was in front of 85 million americans. others similar numbers. so this educates the public and i think it does perform a very important function. today, they tend to take depositions, have counsel do it. and it doesn't serve the same educational process. >> right. it made oliver north a superstar during iran contra. you might have hit on something there, john. you emphasize how the ratings might be huge. donald trump may go along with all this. but thanks so much for those insights. we appreciate it. >> thanks, jim. coming up, president biden is abroad, but storm clouds are gathering on capitol hill.
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after months of deal making, bickering and hand wringing, we now have a date, maybe, for a vote on president biden's two big spending bills. house democrats hope to vote on both the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill and larger $1.75 trillion economic and climate plan on tuesday. as for that larger bill, the
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specifics are taking shape. you can look at them on screen. things like universal pre-k, climate provision, cap on childcare expenses will be in it, but some of the more popular policies like paid leave, free community college and expanded medicare, that did not make the cut. i'm joined now by former senate majority leader from nevada, harry reid. senator reid, great to see you. thanks so much for being on with us. you're no stranger to these -- great to see you, sir. you're no stranger to these kinds of negotiations. are you surprised where things stand or is this part of a normal sausage making process as it's called? >> very happy, we think that we've got the numbers, stop talking about numbers. start talking about what this legislation will do to -- last
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24 hours, really very, very good because the american people want to know what, they're not as concerned about what amount of money is involved. what it's going to do for the americans. i think we have a really a good line for the american people. >> and just two senators, i'm sure you've been following, this, manchin and sinema. sinema's new on the scene. they're part of the reason obviously the big reason why many of these items got cut. do you think that that situation could have been managed or handled any differently or is it just a function of the fact you have 50 democratic votes in the senate and they have tremendous influence over the process? >> we have no margin for error. 50/50. i think that joe manchin -- on this legislation. he's done that. i think he's not ruined the
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legislation. he hasn't hurt it. it will move forward regardless. what he's done. i think that he will be one of the yes votes for it. >> and what about senator sinema? what's been your observation of how she has handled all of this? she's been controversial at times. not really talking to reporters and so on. not offering a lot of specifics about what she thinks about the legislation. that has frustrated some of our democratic colleagues. >> yesterday, she had a number of conversations with biden folks and we've gotten has been good conversations. i think that she doesn't want to stand in the way of this legislation, historic legislation. and that she'll be just fine. >> and a year ago, congress passed bipartisan legislation guaranteeing federal workers 12 weeks of paid family leave. is there any reason for democrats to not do a stand
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alone for just paid family leave? it is enormously popular out there. dare republicans to vote against something they gave themselves just last year? why not? >> i think that's an alternative we should look at. it is the most popular thing. the most popular thing we talked about today. paid family leave. and i think the republicans would be foolish to vote against it. and so i think we should give them the opportunity to vote for it. >> in the united states, one of the only countries in the world without that kind of policy in place. president biden knows the stakes in all of this. you know him all too well. he said this to his caucus on thursday. quote, i don't think it's hyperbole to say that the house and senate majorities in my presidency will be determined by what happens in the next week. do you think that's overstating things? you you've seen this play out before. i mean, this is not overstating
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it. this is very consequential to joe biden's future. >> joe biden with the democratic senate, democratic house, is going to do good things for the country. i think that he's on top of this. he's met with the caucuses. both caucuses. and i think they're going to wrap their arms around him. when we get something done, it's going to be amazingly good. >> when you watch this process play out, especially the way it's been sort of log jammed there with sinema and manchin, on the subject of the filibuster, something that's tied to your legacy, it sounds like the president has thrown his support behind a filibuster car carve out for voting rights. do you wish when you were senate majority leader, you had just gotten rid of the filibuster all together?
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was that something that could have gone by the wayside? >> filibuster is not something that's part of the constitution. it's not part of the constitution. i think that we made changes in it when i was the leader. filibuster is something from the past. as barack obama said it at a funeral, it's part of the legacy of the southern slave holding states. i think we need to move on. nothing anything that we can deal with fairly and we have got to get rid of it. filibuster is something that is no longer needed. i'm not sure it was ever needed, but it's not needed now. >> and if you were advising the president on the filibuster when it comes to voting rights, what would you say to him? how important are the stakes in terms of eliminating the filibuster and making sure voting rights are protected in
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this country? if that is not done, if that doesn't happen, what might the stakes be? >> i think it's essential that it's done and the other republicans to vote against it. >> all right. former senate majority leader, harry reid. thanks so much for your time. we appreciate it. as always. good talking to you, sir. take care. coming up, with just days left in the virginia governor's race, the top candidates are pulling out all the stops. including continually mentioning the former president's name. it's been all about trump until now. we'll explain. you're live in the cnn newsroom. (man 2) definitely higher. (man 1) we're like yodeling high. [yodeling] yo-de-le-he... (man 2) hey, no. uh-uh, don't do that. (man 1) we should go even higher! (man 2) yeah, let's do it. (both) woah! (man 2) i'm good. (man 1) me, too. (man 2) mm-hm. (vo) adventure has a new look. (man 1) let's go lower. (man 2) lower, that sounds good. (vo) discover more in the all-new subaru outback wilderness.
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now to the governor's race being watched nationwide. virginia democrats might have expected a guaranteed win for terry mcauliffe. instead, it's a neck and neck fight with less than 72 hours before the polls open. mcauliffe might be awbandoning something. l listen to what he said at the end of this comment to cnn this morning. >> it's killing trump that he's not here, obviously. he's in the race. he's endorsed youngkin seven different times. i think trump's trying to play whichever, trump's always going to claim credit for himself whatever happens.
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trump is very unpopular here in the state. everybody knows it. it's probably why youngkin doesn't want him. >> i don't know you said you would have paid for his jet fuel, but would it have helped? >> i would have loved for him to come, but this isn't about trump. >> is mcauliffe moving away from talking about trump? if he is shifting strategy here, it's kind of late in the process, right? >> for months, mcauliffe and democrats have been invoking trump's name, making him a central figure. today on the campaign trail, you've only heard mcauliffe mention trump a few times. he did so at this event when he was talking about election integrity. he also did it again a short while ago while he was talking to reporters saying that glenn yo youngkin engages in trump like
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rhetoric. but this comes as really democrats are facing this question of what campaigning will be like in that post trump era, and whether focusing on the former president will be a benefit heading into their elections. now this all comes as the race here in virginia is incredibly, incredibly tight. there was a "washington post" poll released yesterday which follows most polls in the race in recent weeks that shows the race neck and neck between mcauliffe and youngkin. one thing mcauliffe is heading into tuesday without is a democratic win when it comes to those two bills that lawmakers were trying to pass up on capitol hill. today at this event, house majority whip, jim clyburn, said there will be a vote on tuesday and that they will be passed, but i asked terry mcauliffe whether he was frustrated that that vote is not coming before election day and he essentially told me it is what it is. take a listen. >> so we heard congressman clyburn talk about in there those votes on tuesday relating
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to infrastructure in the larger package. how frustrated are you that the house is not holding those votes until election day when people are heading to the polls? >> it is what it is. people here in virginia want to hear about my education plan, job creation, what i'm going to do in healthcare. i don't get asked about it. it is $7 billion of roads here in virginia, but as long as they get it done by the time i'm inau inaugurated, i'm happy. >> now after this event, mcauliffe is heading to two more events. youngkin has also been campaigning across the state. both candidates trying to drive up that early vote. today is the final day of early voting here in virginia and already more than 1 million virginians have cast their ballots early. an extraordinary number on both sides are hoping their voters are going to turn out and give
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them that little boost on election day. >> thanks for that report. here with me now, allen stewart and cnn political commentator, maria. you used to work with terry mcauliffe. he's very tight with the clintons. been doing this a long time. he's been talking about donald trump for weeks now. to say at the end this race is not about donald trump, isn't it a little late for that? >> i don't think he's trying to shift vstrategy. he said in that quote, i would love for trump to come. guess what, he's coming on monday. yay, i'm sure youngkin is so excited about that. >> tele town hall. >> i don't think youngkin's thrilled about that. i think what terry's trying to do, he understands well that at the end of the day, what voters
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are going to decide on is what he is going to be offering them. that's why his adminis is about he did he was a very good governor. he left really, really popular, but understands that history is not on our side. i take issue with one of things you said at the beginning. we never assumed this is going to be easy. because history's not on our side. terry, he went against history, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be able to do it again and we know that the trump base is very strong when you go out there. very, very focused on trying to get youngkin elected and that's the message that terry, throughout this campaign, has been trying to communicate as well because youngkin has been pretending to be a milk toast moderate but he is focused on trump extremist policies. >> youngkin has tried to walk a
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fine line in all of this. he's been sort of a trump in sheep's clothing to some extent from time to time. he's talked about election integrity. tried to walk up to that line of questioning election results and so on. and you have this tele town hall that's happening on monday where trump is going to be calling in to virginia to drum up support for glenn youngkin. youngkin is almost responding like new phone, who dis. he doesn't want him there. >> look, i don't know what it is with terry mcauliffe and the democrats, they just can't quit trump. he is no longer the president. he is not running for governor and he certainly is not the focus of the glenn youngkin campaign. mcauliffe continues to talk about it time after time after time. if he wants to stop now, it's a little too late. i was at the youngkin rally this morning at 7:30 in alexandria. it was packed house and it was very full of enthusiastic republican supporters and they're talking about jobs, pocketbook issues, public safety as well as education. and that's what the people in
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the crowd wanted to hear and that's what he talked about. what is encouraging with these high number of early voters is not the fact that we have strong republicans and democrats coming out. the youngkin campaign's internals show that two to one of the independent swing voters are going for him. what that says is that they are looking at the policies that youngkin stands for and when he says, he say on the campaign trial, is this is not a campaign as much this is a movement against the liberal policies. liberal policies that mcauliffe -- >> let me ask you this. if youngkin wins and he can go into a place like virginia which has been a democratic stronghold in recent years, does that mean that the republican party doesn't need donald trump anymore? >> it means that virginia voters on the republican side are those who support him want to focus on policy and not personality. and that is the wave of the future for a successful republican party and that says when you focus on the issues that people are concerned with,
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that's important. and what's going to happen with terry mcauliffe, he's going to be the canary in the coal mine. going into tuesday when he doesn't come out on top, this sends a message to democrats that danger is ahead. if you try to ride on the coat tails of the democrats and turns out they are a complete anchor dragging a ticket down. >> and when he is inaugurated, he can talk about what he is offering virginians. it's really important what he's been saying up until now. glenn youngkin, it's fine that he's talking about as my friend says, the economy and jobs and education. before the primary, he was more than playing footsy with trump's extreme radical racist base. he would go to election integrity rallies. the only proposal that he offered details on was his commission on election integrity.
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before he became the nominee, he refused to say that joe biden had been elected president fair and square. >> but did mcauliffe miss an opportunity to define youngkin on his own terms instead of just tieing him to trump? the other night when they were handing out copy of tony morrison's book, i thought that was an effective moment for the mcauliffe campaign because they were talking about where youngkin was on the issues. do >> i think that's what it might seem like to us because that's what everyone covers, but the folks that i've been talking to that have gone to these rallies, the mcauliffe rallies, they hear him talk about how he wants to invest $2 billion in education while youngkin wants to defund public schools. he wants to continue to grow small businesses, latino businesses, which flourished the last time he was governor. he wants to offer $15 an hour
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minimum wage, which is huge. youngkin will not do that. those are the things that are going to make a difference. >> quickly on education, he talks a big game about education, but the thing that killed him in this campaign is saying that parents should not be involved in their kids education. >> that's not what he said. >> that has been one of his biggest -- >> that is not what he said. this is really important. that is not what he said. he said that parents should not make the decisions as to what is being taught in schools and id got to tell you, youngkin's ad, i agree. that whacko woman that wants to ban books, i would want her nowhere near the decision making as to what my children are going to be learning in school. >> ladies, thanks so much. spirit of debate, i just decided to get out of the way there. you know. which is unlike me. but anyway. thanks so much. we'll see what happens on
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tuesday. this tuesday, it is election night in me. t the stakes are high and who will be victorious in the fight to lead new york city? special live coverage starts tuesday at 6:00. we'll be right back.
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here at cnn we're proud to salute our cnn heroes, everyday people who have committed to making the world a better and safer place. these are the top ten cnn heroes of 2021. i'm anderson cooper. there year we celebrate a milestone, the 15th anniversary of cnn heroes. for a decade and a half we've had the honor of introducing you to extraordinary everyday people
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who are changing the world. and at a time when we need kindness and courage more than ever, we're thrilled to announce this year's top ten cnn heroes. from philadelphia, pediatric surgeon ella stanford saw covid-19 ravaging communities of color, so she built trust and brought testing and vaccinations to more than 75,000 people. from san francisco, david flink is building understanding and confidence using his journey with adhd and dyslexia to help kids with learning differences across america thrive. in new york city, hector guadalupe uses fitness training to help formerly incarcerated men and women like himself get family-sustaining jobs and build careers. from colombia, jennifer colpas brings eco-friendly energy, safe water and sanitation to struggling colombians in remote areas. linda dowdy of phippsburg, maine, monsters 2,500 miles of
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coastline providing support and medical care to thousands of marine animals. from bali, indonesia, exchanging plastic waste for rice. the restaurant owner has sent tons of plastic for recycling and provided food to thousands of families during the pandemic. and in simi valley, california, michelle neff fernandez has turned her profound grief into sustaining support for the widowed. on colleges, patricia gordon walked away from her beverly hills private practice to save women from dying of preventable and treatable cervical cancer. on l.a.'s skid row, shirley raines brings dignity and respect to thousands of homeless people every week rain or shine. and in nigeria, zena mustafa educates orphaned children from both sides of a violent extremist conflict providing support to more than 2,000 boys and girls a year.
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congratulations to the top ten cnn heroes of 2021. now it's time for you to choose who inspires you the most. who should be named cnn hero of the year and receive $100,000 to continue their great work? go to right now to vote, and watch the 15th annual all-star tribute as we announce the hero of the year and celebrate all of this year's honorees live sunday, december 12th. >> and you can help decide who will become cnn hero of the year, go to, and you can vote ten times a day every day for the heroes that inspire you the most. that's the news. reporting from washington, i'm jim acosta. thank you so much for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. pamela brown takes over the "cnn newsroom" live after a quick break. have a good night, everybody.
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alec baldwin tells paparazzi the shooting on the set of his latest film "rust" was a, quote, one in a trillion event. >> we were a very, very, you know, well-oiled crew shooting a film together, and then this horrible event happened. >> reporter: as the january 6th commission investigates donald trump's role in the insurrection, new details on the huge trove of documents he's trying to keep hidden from congress. >> from his point of view there's no good that can


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