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>> we can't continue to hurt the education of our children. >> as omicron spreads, how can schools make it work? new york city mayor eric adams joins me to discuss ahead. plus, terrorists attack, on the anniversary of an insurrection, one republican lawmaker backpedaled while other pushed for truth. >> that's how democracies die. >> are we doing enough to stop that? i'll speak to a prominent republican, governor asa hutchinson, in moments. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is having cold war flashbacks. the u.s. is entering a series of urgent meetings with russia this week, at one of the most precarious moments with that nation, since the fall of the soviet union. on monday, u.s. officials will meet with their russian counterparts in geneva in an attempt to deescalate the crisis with ukraine which russia seems poised to invade, with the ability to quickly mobilize
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twice that many. following the bilateral meetings in geneva, representatives from nato will meet with the russian delegation in brussels. the stakes of these meetings are incredibly high. the u.s. is warning of steep sanctions if russia moves forward to invade and there are already concerns the russians are not remotely entering the negotiations in good faith. joining me now to discuss is secretary of state antony blinken. secretary blinken, thanks for joining us. let's start on these talks beginning tomorrow geneva. president putin demanding the troops be pulled back and ruling out expanding nato to include ukraine. are either of those on the negotiating table? >> neither of those is on the able, jake, but here's where we are. there are two paths before us. there's a path of dialogue and diplomacy to try to resolve some of these differences and avoid a confrontation. the other path is confrontation and massive consequences for russia if it increases its pressure on ukraine. we're about to test which path
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president putin is about to take. we have important conversations between us starting tomorrow as well as at nato, as well as at the organization for security and cooperation in europe. we're going to listen to russia's concerns, they're going to have to listen to our concerns. if they are proceeding in good faith, we think we can make progress in addressing concerns on both sides that would reduce tensions and deal with improving security. we'll do that in close coordination with european allies and partners. we made clear to russia there's nothing about europe without europe, but ultimately, this is up to president putin to decide which path he's going to follow. >> it seems unlikely putin will withdraw troops or take at least some of them off the border without some concessions by the u.s. you've already said that those two that i mentioned up top are off the table or not on the table. what about moving, having u.s. weaponry out of poland, moving it further west or moving missiles? what about limiting the scope of u.s. military exercise? are any of those on the table?
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>> first, jake, i don't think we'll see any breakthroughs in the coming week. we're going to be able to put things on the table. the russians will do the same. both directly with us at nato at the osce and we'll see if there are grounds for moving forward. here's what i can say. first, any progress that we're going to make is going to have to happen on a reciprocal basis, by which i mean if the united states and europe are taking steps to address some of russia's concerns, russia will have to do the same thing. second, nothing's happening without europe, and third, it's hard to see making actual progress as opposed to talking in and atmosphere of escalation with a gun to ukraine's head. so if we're actually going to make progress, we're going to have to see deescalation, russia pulling back from the threat that it currently poses to ukraine. >> you didn't rule any of those out. they're not enough the table as the earlier items were. let me ask you, going forward, if those concessions are a
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possibility, you must -- possibilities, you must be worried about creating a precedent in which putin at any moment can throw 100,000 troops on a border and threat on it invade a country until the u.s. gives him some of what he wants, the very scenario you referred to when you said russia had a gun to ukraine's head. >> exactly the opposite, jake. first of all, why are we here? we're here because repeatedly over the last decade, russia's committed acts of aggression against neighbors, georgia, moldova, ukraine in 2014 and the renewed threat about ukraine today. second, there are large principles at stake that go to the fundamentals of international peace and security. the principle that one country can't change the borders of another by force. the principle that one country can't dictate to another its foreign policy and the choices including with whom it will associate, the principle that one country can't exert a sphere of influence to subjugate its neighbors. all of that is on the table. that's exactly why not only are we standing up but we rallied countries not just in europe but indeed beyond to make it clear to russia that this aggression
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will not be accepted, will not be tolerated, will not stand. so the choice is russia. it's also not about making concessions. it's about seeing whether in the context of dialogue and diplomacy will are things that both sides, all sides can do to reduce tensions. we've done that in the past. we did it with the intermediate nuclear forces treaty that unfortunately russia has violated in the previous administration pulled out of, in the context of the conventional forces in europe agreements, having transparency and other measures put in place on the way exercises take place and those are certainly things that can be revisited if russia is serious about doing it. >> you say the u.s. will respond with massive consequences to any russian aggression in ukraine. president biden has ruled out u.s. unilateral troops on the ground. what sanctions is the u.s. willing to impose, and are u.s. troops as part of a nato or international force on the
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table? >> well, first, when it comes to consequences, it's not just us who has been saying this. the g7, the leading democratic economies of the world made clear there would be massive consequences for renewed russian aggression. so has the european union and nato, and we've been working closely with all countries in recent weeks to elaborate those, to come to agreement on the steps we'd take together in the event of renewed russian aggression, including things that we've not done in the past in the face of previous russian aggression, economic, financial, other measures. i'll not telegraph the details but i think russia has a pretty good idea of the kinds of things it would face if it renews aggression. second, we've made clear that we will continue to provide and supply ukraine with the defensive military equipment to be able to defend itself and it's also clear that in the event of further russian aggression, nato is going to have to further reinforce its eastern flank. you know, jake, what's interesting about all of this is president putin talks about lots
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of things he's concerned about, and the very actions he's taken have precipitated much of what he says he wants to prevent. back in 2014 before russia invaded ukraine, 25% of ukrainians supported ukraine joining nato. now it's about 60%. >> right. >> similarly after 2014, nato felt compelled because of russian aggression to put more forces and more equipment on its eastern flank closer to russia. it's president putin's actions that are precipitating what he says he doesn't want. >> yeah. >> there's now an opportunity if he takes it through dialogue, through diplomacy to see if we can address any legitimate russian concerns as well as address many concerns that the united states and europe have over russia's conduct. >> right, beyond this military buildup on the ukraine border, russian-led troops are now intervening in violent protests in kazakhstan and stepped down in the belarus elections. form e defense secretary leon
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panetta said years ago he believes what drives putin is a desire to restore the old soviet union. do you agree? >> i think that's right. i think that's one of president putin's objectives to re-exert his sphere of influence over countries that previously were part of the soviet union. as we said that's unacceptable. we can't go back to a world of influence. that was a recipe for instability, a recipe for conflict, a recipe that led to world wars. >> do you think the invasion is likely? do you think an invasion of ukraine is likely? >> look, i can't tell you whether it's likely or not. i can tell you this, we're committed to dialogue and diplomacy to see if we can resolve these challenges peacefully. that is by far the preferable course. it's by far the most responsible course, but equally, we're prepared to deal very resolutely with russia if it chooses confrontation, if it chooses aggression. we'll see. it's up to president putin which path he wants to follow. we're prepared starting this
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week to talk through all of this and hear their concerns and them to hear ours to see if we can make progress. >> kazakhstan's president to "kill without warning" protesters in the street. president biden said in october your administration "put human rights back at the center of our foreign policy" and "no u.s. president should stand by when human rights are under attack." they're under attack in kazakhstan. at least 164 people were killed during protests this week. >> i condemn that statement and if that's an actual policy, condemn that policy, the shoot to kill. i spoke to my counterpart in kazakhstan a couple days ago. the authorities in kazakhstan should be able to deal with the challenges that they're facing peacefully to make sure the rights of those protesting peacefully are protected, to protect the institutions of the state and law and order but to do it in a way that is rights respecting. we have real questions why they felt compelled could call in this organization that russia dominates.
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we're asking for clarification on that, but what's imperative now is that all of this be dealt with in a peaceful manner that respects the rights of those who are trying to make their voices heard. >> secretary antony blinken, thanks so much. i really appreciate your time today. >> thanks, jake. teachers on edge, parents at the breaking point as omicron breaks. new york city mayor eric adams is next. and up is down, down is up in the republican party. is there any way back to the truth? stay with us. and what fits into your lifestyle. you don't have to eat diet food. i can enjoy the things that i really love like wine, cheese. you can add points for eating vegetables or being active. i lost 26 pounds and i feel incredible. the all new ww personalpoints program. join today for 50% off at hurry, offer ends january 10th. ♪ three times the electorlytes
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teachers call out which can with covid. in new york city the mayor is resisting pressure to pause in-person learning. how is he making that work? joining us to discuss, new york city's new mayor, eric adams. mr. mayor, congratulations on taking the oath of office. it's good to see you. you've seen the images the last few weeks, lines of new yorkers wrapped around the block trying to get covid tests. biden administration pledged to improve access to testing supplies across the nation. are you getting from you need from the biden administration and are you satisfied where test something in new york city right now? >> we are getting what we need and i cannot tell you how much i thank the president getting the resources here on the ground and the governor, of the amazing communication and coordination is allowing us not to live within the walls of this crisis, and we are moving things forward and yes, we're going to expand our testing. you never have enough. we're going to continue to do so
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and get them in the schools and in the community and we're happy about the response from the president and the white house. >> so you're adamant about keeping new york schools open and many parents are applauding you for that. elgt experts say the way to keep schools open safely is with vaccines and masking and vent lags and widespread testing. right now new york uses a complicated opt-in randomized testing program that only covers a fraction of teachers in schools. the teachers have calling for weekly testing, mandated for students and staff that would be the safest. why not? >> that's a great question. and first i want to take my hat off to michael mulgrew, uft president. we're seeing what's playing out in other locales but here in new york we're doing something that's important, we're communicating and even in areas that we disagree, we say that's fine. now let's get down to the task of keeping our schools open.
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science dictates one thing, the safest place for children is in a school building and what we want to do is not get in the way of preventing children from coming into that building. some parents have been reluctant of doing the mandatory testing. we believe the combination we have put together now of making sure we test in the classroom, if it did not spread, keep that classroom open, remove that child out, and also make sure children are in a safe space because all children can't afford or do remote learning, because they don't have access to technology. english as a second language. many reasons why we should be in school buildings. >> i guess the question is, wouldn't mandated testing be the safest way to keep the schools open. why are you not doing that? >> because i deeley that would be the safest way to do it. you know what would happen i don't want to lose some of my
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children, and the way we are doing it now, we are being successful in keeping down -- the rates low and if we reach that moment that we have to have that mandatory testing, then we'll evaluate that again with our medical professionals, but i need my children in school and any barrier to do that i believe is more harmful than helpful. >> only 40% of new york city residents under the age of 18 have received at least one shot of the vaccines. california is going to require all students in public schools to get vaccinated to attend school in the fall. will new york city do the same? >> that is something i'm speaking with my health care professionals, to do an evaluation to determine if that is what we do. let's be clear. in this country we do vaccinate for smallpox, measles and other things. so we need in en glaj in a real conversation an how to educate, use the time before the fall to
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educate our parents to show the importance of it and we're going to sit down and determine if we'll roll that out as well. you announced last night you'll support a law passed last month, allowing roughly 800,000 legal non-citizens to vote in local elections provided that they've lived in new york for at least 30 days. you previously expressed concern about giving a right to vote to non-citizens who have only been here for a short amount of time. a lot of americans watching might share your concerns and also have more broadly questions about the idea of people who have not taken a citizenship test, prepared for that test by learning about the u.s., who haven't sworn an oath to the country, getting to vote. why did you change your mind and why is it acceptable for non-citizens to vote in an american election? >> i did not change my mind. i supported the concept of the bill. the one aspect that i had a problem with was the 30-day
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part, of being in the country for 30 days pass the place i had questions. i sat down with my colleagues. i'm a big believer in conversation. we have to start talking to each other and not at each other. after hearing their rationale and their theories behind it, i thought it was more important to not veto the bill or get in the way at all and amend lau the bill to move forward. in brooklyn, for example, 47% of brooklyn speak a language other than english at home as borough president so it's imperative people in a local municipality have the right to decide who is going to govern them and i support the overall concept of that bill. >> doesn't the bill make a mockery of the idea of american citizenship? this is just for local elections. does that mean next new york city will want non-citizens to vote in federal elections? what do you say to the people who went through the difficult process of becoming an american citizen, studying for the test, swearing an oath and allegiance to the united states of america
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now seeing this legislation as, well, anyone who is here, you can go ahead and vote. >> well, i say to them, keep doing it. membership has its privileges of being a member of what we call the united states of america is a great privilege, and i would tell them keep doing it, be encouraged. this is a great opportunity to be a member of this great country. don't let anything daunt you or take you away from that mission. this legislation is not going to do that, keep becoming a citizen of this country. >> the "new york post" and "daily news" are reporting your reporting you're appointing your brother, a former nypd officer, as deeply commissioner for the nypd. is that true and if it is, doesn't that violate the spirit of new york, public servants, friends and family members should not benefit from their positions? >> well, we have something here
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in the city called conflict of interest board. they do rulings and waivers, it's going through that process now. they will make the determination and we have a great system here in the city. let me be clear on this. my brother is qualified for the position, number one. he will be in charge of my security, which is extremely important to me in a time where we see an increase in white supremacy and hate crimes. i have to take my security in a very serious way, but at the same time, i need that right balance. i don't want the people of this city to believe that their mayor is not approachable and he's not willing to engage with them on the level that i want to represent you. so i took the subway system when my day one in office, and those are the types of things that i'm going to do. my brother has a community affairs background, the balance that i need. he understands law enforcement. he is a 20-year retired veteran from the police department, and i need someone that i trust around me during these times for
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my security and i trust my brother deeply. >> you've also named former nypd chief philip banks as your deputy mayor. he was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal corruption probe and resigned in 2014 after being accused of accepting bribes in turn for favors. we should note he denies it vociferously. are you worried about appointing someone with that record to be your number two? >> not at all. i believe there were some real mistakes and errors that were made. he was not accused of a crime. i think when you look at what happened yesterday in the city, a young person was shot in a robbery in a store. it really personifies why i need the best person for the job. i can't leave bad people doing bad things to good people on the bench when i have a talented person that just made some bad calculations, bad decisions. he didn't do anything that was criminal. phil is a great person, the
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right time to do this job. he rose through to be the chief of the new york city police department during a time when we had to bring down the abusive stop and frisk and bring down gun violence and crime. leaving that talent on the bench is the wrong thing to do. he's the right person for this time to really bring together all of my law enforcement agencies and entities, and he's going to show new york this every day. he's the right person for this job and excited having him on the team and what all the other team members i put together to deal with public safety which is a prerequisite to prosperity, public safety and justice. >> you said the national democratic party will struggle in the midterm elections if it doesn't learn from your victory, doesn't focus on issues of justice and safety and inequality and speaking to blue collar voters. do you think the national democratic party is focusing on the right issues, or are they setting themselves up for a
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shellacking at the ballot boxes this fall? >> i think we could right set the message and we could put the ship on its right course. we have to be radically practical, radically practical. we need to deal with those kitchen table issues that are important to everyday americans and new yorkers. i strongly feel that. we can't allow social media to dictate what happens. i say it all the time, it's people on social security we need to be focusing on and they're focusing on health care, educating their grandchildren and children. they're focusing on affordable housing and jobs. these are the issues we must be looking at and ensuring we are living in a city in a safe country, and we have that message honed in and let it cascade throughout this entire country. you're going to see those democrats come to the polls, polling places because they
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understand we're dealing with the real issues that impact them and that is what i believe we have to be radically practical and that's who i am. >> your predecessor bill de blasio is seriously considering running for governor of new york. do you think he should? >> that's up to him. running for office is not only taxing on you but it's taxing on your family, and he has to make that decision. it's a gut check moment, and i'm sure he'll make the best decision for bill de blasio. right now i'm making the best decision for our city. i love this city. i served it as a police officer, and i'm proud to serve it as the mayor of the city of new york. bill has to make that determination, what he's going to do in his future. >> i told my team you were going to evade that one, but they didn't listen to me. new york city mayor eric adams, thank you so much for joining us today. congratulations again. >> thank you, take care. from darth vader memes to a warm welcome by progressives, former vice president dick cheney came full circle this week.
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i'll ask asa hutchinson about his warning for his party next. so it was a happy ending... for almost everyone.
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to worry about. security, control and peace of mind. with xfinity xfi, it's all built in at no extra cost. welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. for decades, former vice president dick cheney who has been demonized and absolutely reviled by official democrats, but this week, vice president cheney, also the father of congresswoman liz cheney was enthusiastically greeted by democrats on the house floor. the cheneys were the only two members of the party who joined in the moment of silence in the house to mark the anniversary of the deadly events of january 6th. joining us now, leading republican voice in this country, governor asa hutchinson of arkansas. governor, thanks for joining us. in a statement after that event
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on capitol hill, former vice president cheney said "i am deeply disappointed at the failure of many members of my party to recognize the grave nature of the january 6th attacks and the ongoing threat to our nation." do you agree with him? >> i agree with him in substance. i'm glad he was there. i do think that you look at the republican members of congress from arkansas, they all issued statements on that day. they condemned the violence of that day, and made it clear, and so i don't know that absolute attendance was the only way to show the frustration of january 6th, but the fact that the former vice president was there i think did send a signal that traditional republican strength in america does not demonstrate unity with january 6th. that's an affront to all of us and it should be. >> according to a "washington
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post" survey, at least 163 of republicans who embraced the big lie about the election are running for statewide positions throughout the united states. are you worried at all about individuals who embrace the big lie and support the notion of subverting elections. are you worried about them elected into positions where they could potentially warp and undermine legitimate election results? >> well, what worries me is that they're not demonstrating leadership. whenever you're running for office, that's whenever you start about the future, and you help educate the voters as to what happened on january 6th, and you make this about the future. we're going to win, i feel comfortable, the gop in the short term. we're going to have a good 2022. i'm excited about the elections, but at the same time, if we want to be a party of strength over the long term, then we've got to not diminish and minimize the consequences of january 6th, and
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this last week was a time of reflection on that. and over the coming years, it's going to get worse, not better, and so we have to, one, make sure we show that that was unacceptable. we have to define it in the right way. it was an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power. and thirdly, we have to make sure we are clear that president trump did have some responsibility for that, and beyond that, let's move on. let's talk about our future and i think that's how a candidate runs for office. >> after accurately describing the january 6th, 2021 events as a "violent terrorist attack" texas senator ted cruz went on fox to apologize and try to walk it back. take a listen. >> the way i phrased things yesterday, it was sloppy and it was, frankly, dumb. what i was referring to are the limited number of people who engaged in violent attacks against police officers.
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>> we should note senator cruz has referred to the events of that day as terrorism more than a dozen times before he said it that time. now the fbi defines domestic terrorism as individuals using force or violence to "further ideological goals such as those of a political religious, social, racial, environmental nature." what did you make of that interview and isn't that exactly what the people at the capitol were doing, using violence and criminal behavior to further the political goal of as you note, undermine the election? >> well, let me put it back in a little bit more historical context. i prosecuted when i was united states attorney a domestic terrorism case against white supremacists because they were trying to use violence for their own political purposes. that was an fbi domestic terrorism investigation. now we prosecuted them for
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racketeering, not a terrorism charge, but racketeering charge. you move that forward to january 6th, and i have no doubt that this is considered domestic terrorism investigation, but at the same time, they're not being charged with terrorism. so it's a lot of wordsmithing going on there. the key is don't minimize what happened. some people are going to call it an insurrection. some people are going to call it terrorism. i call it an interference with the lawful transfer of power using violence, and that's wrong. and so let's accept what it is. let's don't run from it. let's learn from it, and let's make sure that we don't fall down that path again for the long term. we have to show to the world that we're not going to accept that as how we transfer power in elections in america. >> let's turn to covid, which i know preoccupies a lot of your time. arkansas is seeing record high covid cases with a positivity rate nearly 30%.
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hospitalizations and death rates are also up. low vaccination rates in your state are obviously making the crisis worse. critic also point out that you have not imposed any vaccine mandates even for state employees and that arkansas is going to extend unemployment benefits to people fired refusing to get vaccinated. are you confident that you are doing everything you can as governor to save lives and control the pandemic? >> every day i wake up, i ask the question, am i doing everything that i can to reduce the impact of this pandemic and to save lives, and right now, we are doing everything that we possibly can. as you look at the challenge of vaccinations, the good news is that it's not static. those numbers are going up every day in arkansas. people are getting vaccinated as the omicron continues to spread. that risk increases the people's
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understanding of the importance of it. i don't believe that the mandate is the right way to go at this time, particularly the federal mandate that should be struck down, because that's going to give us a greater worker shortage. it's going to increase the resistance for taking the vaccine, which is what we want to be able to do. over time -- and i think the cdc this last week did a good job of harmonizing and reducing the burden of the isolation period. i think that makes it easier for us to live with this in a safer fashion over time. as the therapeutics continue to increase, i hope we can normalize this terrible omicron so that whatever the next variant might be, so that we can handle it, we can live with it in the safest fashion, but keep our schools open, our businesses open, and live life, because this is still going to be with us for a while. >> arkansas was one of many states suing the biden administration over the federal
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vaccine mandate for large businesses. the u.s. supreme court heard arguments on the case friday. the rule goes into effect tomorrow, barring any action from the court, although we should know, listening to the argument it does sound like the court was not going to support the federal mandate, but still, the day is tomorrow. should arkansas businesses comply? >> no. they should wait until they get the supreme court decision, and of course that's an individual business decision. and our employers in arkansas, some make the decision that they ought to have a vaccine requirement in the workplace, and i support their ability to make that decision. there shouldn't be a ban against that, but others make the decision that it's not necessary. maybe they work in a more open environment or they have a risk of losing too many employees, and so they have that freedom, this mandate of osha, the
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federal government needs to be struck down, and that's why we're fighting against it, and i expect the supreme court hopefully to rule against the biden administration on that oppressive vaccine mandate. >> governor hutchinson, always a pleasure. thank you for joining us today. i appreciate it. >> thank you, jake. good to be with you. on january 6th a year ago, did you look at the television, see the images and watch and say this is not who we are? a year later, are you still so sure? we'll talk about this week's race to the bottom, next. l pict. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect.
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staffers, congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming, the vice chair of the select conference committee was one of our guests. >> imagine, jake, if president eisenhower had summoned a mob to washington and told them to march on the supreme court when they were hearing arguments in brown v. board of education, and then imagine if he sat and watched them innovate the supreme court and didn't do anything to stop it. we couldn't image n an honorable man like dwight eisenhower would do something like that yet that's almost exactly what donald trump did. >> some of your republicans are out there saying this was no big deal. we're making too big of a deal. ted cruz did this special tonight, just political theater. what do you say to them? >> i say that's how democracies die. that if you have members of political parties who ignore an attack -- that we've never before been in a situation where the president himself provoked violence on the capitol building
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and you sit hear in statuary hall and you realize how sacred this place is, any american who would enable or look the other way or dismiss what happened or refuse to do their duty to get to the bottom of it is i think failing to live up to their oath of office and to their duties to this great nation. >> that night, senator cruz that night was apologizing on fox, apologizing for having described the events at the capitol january 6th as a "violent terrorist attack." >> tucker, as a result of my sloppy phrasing, it caused a lot of people to misunderstand what i meant. >> the thing is, it wasn't sloppy phrasing. cruz had called the attack terrorism at least 17 times before in written as well as spoken remarks. frankly, cruz using the term might seem odd, not because the term is imprecise. the fbi definition of domestic
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tash richl is, quote, violent criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences such as those of a political, religious, social, racial or environmental nature." that of course is what the attack was, violent and criminal to further a domestic ideological and political goal, specifically to stop the counting of electoral votes to prevent joe biden from becoming president. now, what's odd is that cruz is voicing opposition to the activities of january 6th, because they were in part inspired by his actions, by his role, and that of missouri republican senator josh hawley, objecting to the electoral votes for joe biden which was part of the twisted kabuki theater and incite the very people who attacked the capitol, including
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these individuals ransacking desks in the senate chamber including cruz's desk as captured by "the new yorker." >> there's got to be something [ bleep ] we can use against these scum bags. >> yeah, whatever. >> cruz would want us to do this so i think we're good. >> absolutely. >> he's with us, he's with us. i think cruz would want to us do this, and maybe so, because in his apology, cruz was sure to remind folks of the role he played that day. >> while thousands of people were standing up to defend this country on january 6th, at that exact moment i was standing on the senate floor objecting to the election results. of course it would be ridiculous for me to be saying the people standing up and protesting to follow the law were somehow terrorists. >> and cruz then clarified. the only people he said he was
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calling terrorists were these people, the ones specifically attacking law enforcement officers. so presumably he was not referring to these people, the ones committing different violent and criminal acts to further a domestic ideological and political goal, just not attacking cops. or these ones, storming statuary hall. thursday night in statuary hall i could not stop looking at this statue, donated in 1931 by the state of mississippi. it's a statue of jefferson davis, the president of the confederacy. and there's also this statue, donated in 1927 by the state of georgia, alexander stephens, the vice president of the confederacy. two leaders of the fight for states to have the legal rights to own and enslave black americans. two individuals who committed
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treason, honored right now as this nation honors so many of its traitors who fought for that disgusting cause. we literally have military bases right now named after losing generals who fought for the wrong, immoral, losing side. so thursday night, as i sat in statuary hall looking at two tributes to traitors, i thought about this since last january 6th, this is not who we are. actually the advocacy of political violence to achieve a warped ends that treasonously portray the ideals of this country, democracy, equality, that's sadly who some of us are. we'll be right back. now i'm ready for someone to call me mom. at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. inner voice (kombucha brewer): i'm dramatically
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. on today's program, we'll take a look at what the new year might have in store for the world. after the omicron spike, will the world be able to get back to something approaching normal? perhaps a new normal


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